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Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.19,0:00:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I first started, what was very very important to me
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.68,0:00:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was dealing with the nature of process.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.48,0:00:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what I had done was I had written a verb list--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.36,0:00:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To roll, to fold, to cut,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.19,0:00:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To dangle, to twist--or whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.44,0:00:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I really just worked out pieces in relation to the verb list
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.76,0:00:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Physically in a space.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.33,0:00:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what happens when you do that is
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.86,0:00:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't become involved with the psychology of what you're making,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.74,0:00:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nor do you become involved with the after image of what it's going to look like.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.04,0:00:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, basically, it gives you a way of proceeding,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.46,0:00:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With material in relation to body movement,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.69,0:01:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In relation to making,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.98,0:01:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That divorces you from any notion of metaphor,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.84,0:01:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any notion of easy imagery.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.49,0:01:26.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think what artists do is
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.78,0:01:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They invent strategies that allow themselves to see
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.46,0:01:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way that they haven't seen before
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.64,0:01:34.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To extend their vision.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.69,0:01:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Various artists do it in different ways:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.49,0:01:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cézanne did it in his way,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.94,0:01:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, Pollock did it his way
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.56,0:01:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By dripping downward in a horizontal plane.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.86,0:01:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think what's interesting about artists is
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.14,0:01:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They constantly come up with ways of informing themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.51,0:01:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By inventing tools or techniques or processes
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.74,0:01:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That allow them to see into a material manifestation
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.46,0:01:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the way that you would not if you dealt with standardized
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.14,0:02:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or academic ways of thinking.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.43,0:02:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These ellipses only came about because
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.76,0:02:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd invented a wheel to make these things
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.73,0:02:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order for us to understand what we were doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.48,0:02:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And albeit it's a small invention
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.84,0:02:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on another sense, it has never come up
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.03,0:02:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the history of form making before.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.06,0:02:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're not drawing the outside of the piece
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.13,0:02:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like a pear or a donut.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.88,0:02:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we're doing is trying to figure out
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.66,0:02:25.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What the internal volume will revolve like.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.39,0:02:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We made a wheel to figure that out,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.69,0:02:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that wheel predicates the outside the skin.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.28,0:02:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's the way of working from the inside, out.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.34,0:02:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think one constantly tries to invent ways
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.06,0:02:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of seeing into what one's doing
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.09,0:02:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you don't get into some lock-step notion
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.14,0:02:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of how to do what you do.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.28,0:02:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to kind of invent new strategies
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.39,0:02:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to not go back to something that's just a reflex action.