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<v ->So it is the making of a hairpin.</v>

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You see, the hairpin is indispensable,

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and I never have any.

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Very good.

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So, we are almost ready, hmm?

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Okay.

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(gentle piano music)

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So in the sculpture for Chicago, then,

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this is a silent world.

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This is a silent world.

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All these things are going to go

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around the high building in a garden.

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And instead of trying to rival

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with the height of the building,

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I have made a sculpture

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which is so discreet and so sensitive

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that my sculpture doesn't 
have a bone of contention

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with the building.

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The beauty of it is that the block of black stone

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is one with this.

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So that is quite something.

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Now, this is lost on a lot of people.

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They don't know how beautiful it is.

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They don't have to know.

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What I'm concerned with this 
here is vandalism, right?

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You see how fragile it is.

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I'm not going to give you ideas now,

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but just a knock on this, and the thing is...

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So, it is a leap of faith to 
put this in an open space,

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but I take a chance.

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<v Interviewer>how come some 
hands are child hands

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and some are adults?

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<v ->The subject of autobiography.</v>

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Autobiographique.

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It is the helplessness of a child

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and then here is the help

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that the grownup can give a small child.

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One takes care of the other.

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The whole thing means we are together

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and we are not arrogant,

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we are not ashamed of our helplessness.

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In fact, the helplessness may be a charm.

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Though I doubt that, but I can think that.

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I can say that.

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I doubt it, but maybe I 
don't doubt it, I don't know.

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Helplessness can be a charm.

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It makes you feel good to help somebody helpless,

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even though it's arrogant to say that.

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They're all based on the same subject.

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And there is a multiplicity of reasons.

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Things are not black and white,

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they are very subtle, there are lots of grays.

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So, the main different thing,

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first of all the fact that they are black

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is not a hazard, it is wanted.

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They are wanted black.

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Which is black is beautiful.

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It is an invitation.

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It is an invitation to be friendly.

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(gentle piano music)

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I'm supposed to come here, huh?

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The wrists, you see the beauty of this?

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So instead of having a blouse,

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you see, you have those things.

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Ah, thank you.

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Okay.

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So, it is just nice.

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Right.

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And this is also crochet.

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It's a matter of...

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It is a matter of craftsmanship.

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So this dovetail exactly into the Chicago project.

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I don't want to talk about Jane Addams,

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because she's a historical figure, and it is,

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you just open a book and know what she represents.

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Her attitude was very moral and very wonderful.

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She provided women who came over with work.

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And since their fathers were 
not around in many cases,

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she made women useful.

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She made them into wage-earners.

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v<Interviewer>Wasn't your 
grandmother a lace maker?

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<v Louise>There was a lot of 
tapestry making in my family,

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and there was also lace making.

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I talk a lot about needles,

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but I never sat at a loom, never.

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In her feminist attitude, my 
mother was virulent about that.

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She said, "You, my daughter, 
will never handle a needle.

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Women are not supposed to be only craftswomen.

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they are supposed to have a career."

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<v Interviewer>What was your father's idea?</v>

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Did he think you would sit down-

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<v ->My father's idea was that I get married</v>

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and be a good wife, and be off of his hands.

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(bouncy piano music)

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You see the little hands 
inside, they are my hands,

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as you can see by the size.

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And his hands, then...

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<v Assistant>My hands are over Louise's hands.</v>

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Louise's hands are like this.

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<v ->So this is where it came from.</v>

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And the technique of it is interesting,

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because first a cast was made.

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We have a bed of plaster.

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Then Jerry pushed my hands in the wet plaster,

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and then we wait until the plaster is dry,

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the negative part, is dry.

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And then we put some shellac on it.

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May I turn it, because he's there.

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This is my (indistinct).

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So we have half of it covered with the shellac.

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It is dry.

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At this point we put another, 
we pour the plaster on top.

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Now when I say that the original plaster

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is my favorite things, come, you see here?

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You see the hand here?

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And you see all the folds. You see the folds?

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All the wrinkles, everything is there.

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So this is the real document. That's it.

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So it is really our hands.

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Because it shows how much I 
care about the whole thing.

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It shows how much the emotion 
that this expresses is true.

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It's an emotion that has 
been lived and that is real;

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it's not something made up.

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So in this case, sometimes it's swing, you see.

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I swing from being vulnerable, the baby one,

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and in some other cases, I am the guiding one.

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So you swing from being a child,

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into being a grandmother, to Alexander.

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So there is a long swing,

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there is a whole lifetime of experience,

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of attempted experiences.

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Some people never grow up, 
but the attempt is there.

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<v Interviewer>do you notice that artists</v>

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always remain children?

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<v ->Oh, well, I don't have 
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I mean, it's not necessary.

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But it might be true that the artist,

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there is something in them that either refuses,

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or is unable to grow up, this is possible.

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(gentle piano music)

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A work of art doesn't have to be explained.

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If you say, what does this mean, you see?

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Well, if you do not have any feeling about this,

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I cannot explain it to you.

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If this doesn't touch you, I have failed.