WEBVTT 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:02.416 I published this article 00:00:02.440 --> 00:00:06.816 in the New York Times Modern Love column in January of this year. 00:00:06.840 --> 00:00:09.176 "To Fall in Love With Anyone, Do This." 00:00:09.200 --> 00:00:11.496 And the article is about a psychological study 00:00:11.520 --> 00:00:14.936 designed to create romantic love in the laboratory, 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:17.696 and my own experience trying to study myself 00:00:17.720 --> 00:00:19.576 one night last summer. 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:22.336 So the procedure is fairly simple: 00:00:22.360 --> 00:00:29.216 two strangers take turns asking each other 36 increasingly personal questions 00:00:29.240 --> 00:00:32.136 and then they stare into each other's eyes 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:34.720 without speaking for four minutes. 00:00:35.360 --> 00:00:38.736 So here are a couple of sample questions. 00:00:38.760 --> 00:00:44.016 Number 12: If you could wake up tomorrow having gained any one quality or ability, 00:00:44.040 --> 00:00:45.240 what would it be? 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:50.936 Number 28: When did you last cry in front of another person? 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:52.176 By yourself? 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:56.456 As you can see, they really do get more personal as they go along. 00:00:56.480 --> 00:00:58.856 Number 30, I really like this one: 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.736 Tell your partner what you like about them; 00:01:01.760 --> 00:01:03.616 be very honest this time, 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:08.000 saying things you might not say to someone you just met. 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:13.376 So when I first came across this study a few years earlier, 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:15.496 one detail really stuck out to me, 00:01:15.520 --> 00:01:18.576 and that was the rumor that two of the participants 00:01:18.600 --> 00:01:21.096 had gotten married six months later, 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.296 and they'd invited the entire lab to the ceremony. 00:01:25.320 --> 00:01:28.176 So I was of course very skeptical 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.856 about this process of just manufacturing romantic love, 00:01:31.880 --> 00:01:34.736 but of course I was intrigued, 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.176 and when I got the chance to try this study myself, 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.336 with someone I knew but not particularly well, 00:01:41.360 --> 00:01:44.496 I wasn't expecting to fall in love. 00:01:44.520 --> 00:01:47.216 But then we did, and -- 00:01:47.240 --> 00:01:49.136 (Laughter) 00:01:49.160 --> 00:01:53.536 And I thought it made a good story, so I sent it to the Modern Love column 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:55.376 a few months later. 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:59.120 Now, this was published in January, 00:01:59.880 --> 00:02:01.576 and now it is August, 00:02:01.600 --> 00:02:05.216 so I'm guessing that some of you are probably wondering, 00:02:05.240 --> 00:02:07.616 are we still together? 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.015 And the reason I think you might be wondering this 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.696 is because I have been asked this question 00:02:12.720 --> 00:02:16.656 again and again and again for the past seven months, 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.376 and this question is really what I want to talk about today. 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:21.856 But let's come back to it. 00:02:21.880 --> 00:02:24.856 (Laughter) 00:02:24.880 --> 00:02:26.856 So the week before the article came out, 00:02:26.880 --> 00:02:29.576 I was very nervous. 00:02:29.600 --> 00:02:32.176 I had been working on a book about love stories 00:02:32.200 --> 00:02:34.016 for the past few years, 00:02:34.040 --> 00:02:36.856 so I had gotten used to writing about my own experiences 00:02:36.880 --> 00:02:39.896 with romantic love on my blog. 00:02:39.920 --> 00:02:44.496 But a blog post might get a couple hundred views at the most, 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.616 and those were usually just my Facebook friends, 00:02:47.640 --> 00:02:50.216 and I figured my article in the New York Times 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.040 would probably get a few thousand views. 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:56.856 And that felt like a lot of attention 00:02:56.880 --> 00:03:00.056 on a relatively new relationship. 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.360 But as it turned out, I had no idea. 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.136 So the article was published online 00:03:06.160 --> 00:03:08.216 on a Friday evening, 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:14.376 and by Saturday, this had happened to the traffic on my blog, 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:19.280 and by Sunday, both the Today Show and Good Morning America had called. 00:03:20.720 --> 00:03:25.256 Within a month, the article would receive over 8 million views, 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:27.576 and I was, to say the least, 00:03:27.600 --> 00:03:31.496 underprepared for this sort of attention. 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.496 It's one thing to work up the confidence to write honestly 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:36.616 about your experiences with love, 00:03:36.640 --> 00:03:39.096 but it is another thing to discover 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.096 that your love life has made international news -- 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:43.336 (Laughter) 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:47.176 and to realize that people across the world 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:52.176 are genuinely invested in the status of your new relationship. 00:03:52.200 --> 00:03:54.376 (Laughter) 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:59.216 And when people called or emailed, which they did every day for weeks, 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.576 they always asked the same question first: 00:04:02.600 --> 00:04:05.256 are you guys still together? 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:07.616 In fact, as I was preparing this talk, 00:04:07.640 --> 00:04:09.896 I did a quick search of my email inbox 00:04:09.920 --> 00:04:11.856 for the phrase "Are you still together?" 00:04:11.880 --> 00:04:14.576 and several messages popped up immediately. 00:04:14.600 --> 00:04:17.255 They were from students and journalists 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.296 and friendly strangers like this one. 00:04:20.320 --> 00:04:22.776 I did radio interviews and they asked. 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:26.736 I even gave a talk, and one woman shouted up to the stage, 00:04:26.760 --> 00:04:30.096 "Hey Mandy, where's your boyfriend?" 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.416 And I promptly turned bright red. 00:04:33.440 --> 00:04:36.256 I understand that this is part of the deal. 00:04:36.280 --> 00:04:39.816 If you write about your relationship in an international newspaper, 00:04:39.840 --> 00:04:43.496 you should expect people to feel comfortable asking about it. 00:04:43.520 --> 00:04:48.456 But I just wasn't prepared for the scope of the response. 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:52.336 The 36 questions seem to have taken on a life of their own. 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:55.776 In fact, the New York Times published a follow-up article 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:57.016 for Valentine's Day, 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:01.536 which featured readers' experiences of trying the study themselves, 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:03.840 with varying degrees of success. 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:09.176 So my first impulse in the face of all of this attention 00:05:09.200 --> 00:05:12.640 was to become very protective of my own relationship. 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.936 I said no to every request for the two of us 00:05:16.960 --> 00:05:19.296 to do a media appearance together. 00:05:19.320 --> 00:05:21.016 I turned down TV interviews, 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:25.176 and I said no to every request for photos of the two us. 00:05:25.200 --> 00:05:27.776 I think I was afraid that we would become 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:31.936 inadvertent icons for the process of falling in love, 00:05:31.960 --> 00:05:35.680 a position I did not at all feel qualified for. 00:05:36.760 --> 00:05:39.216 And I get it: 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.016 people didn't just want to know if the study worked, 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.976 they wanted to know if it really worked: 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:49.696 that is, if it was capable of producing love that would last, 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:55.096 not just a fling, but real love, sustainable love. 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:59.216 But this was a question I didn't feel capable of answering. 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.936 My own relationship was only a few months old, 00:06:01.960 --> 00:06:06.720 and I felt like people were asking the wrong question in the first place. 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:12.176 What would knowing whether or not we were still together really tell them? 00:06:12.200 --> 00:06:13.856 If the answer was no, 00:06:13.880 --> 00:06:17.856 would it make the experience of doing these 36 questions 00:06:17.880 --> 00:06:20.080 any less worthwhile? 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:23.576 Dr. Arthur Aron first wrote about these questions 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.976 in this study here in 1997, 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:32.736 and here, the researcher's goal was not to produce romantic love. 00:06:32.760 --> 00:06:34.696 Instead, they wanted to foster 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.176 interpersonal closeness among college students, 00:06:38.200 --> 00:06:40.936 by using what Aron called 00:06:40.960 --> 00:06:45.856 "sustained, escalating, reciprocal, personalistic self-disclosure." 00:06:45.880 --> 00:06:48.360 Sounds romantic, doesn't it? 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.256 But the study did work. 00:06:51.280 --> 00:06:54.336 The participants did feel closer after doing it, 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:59.656 and several subsequent studies have also used Aron's fast friends protocol 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.816 as a way to quickly create trust and intimacy between strangers. 00:07:03.840 --> 00:07:07.269 They've used it between members of the police and members of a community, 00:07:07.293 --> 00:07:10.853 and they've used it between people of opposing political ideologies. 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:13.576 The original version of the story, 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:16.096 the one that I tried last summer, 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:20.336 that pairs the personal questions with four minutes of eye contact, 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:22.456 was referenced in this article, 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:25.080 but unfortunately it was never published. 00:07:26.640 --> 00:07:29.656 So a few months ago, I was giving a talk 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:31.976 at a small liberal arts college, 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.696 and a student came up to me afterwards 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:36.640 and he said, kind of shyly, 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:42.376 "So, I tried your study, and it didn't work." 00:07:42.400 --> 00:07:45.656 He seemed a little mystified by this. 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:50.456 "You mean, you didn't fall in love with the person you did it with?" I asked. 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:52.896 "Well..." He paused. 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:55.400 "I think she just wants to be friends." 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:01.216 "But did you become better friends?" I asked. 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:04.896 "Did you feel like you got to really know each other after doing the study?" 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:06.216 He nodded. 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.176 "So, then it worked," I said. 00:08:09.200 --> 00:08:13.416 I don't think this is the answer he was looking for. 00:08:13.440 --> 00:08:17.776 In fact, I don't think this is the answer that any of us are looking for 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.056 when it comes to love. 00:08:20.080 --> 00:08:21.816 I first came across this study 00:08:21.840 --> 00:08:23.296 when I was 29 00:08:23.320 --> 00:08:26.736 and I was going through a really difficult breakup. 00:08:26.760 --> 00:08:29.376 I had been in the relationship since I was 20, 00:08:29.400 --> 00:08:32.176 which was basically my entire adult life, 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:34.296 and he was my first real love, 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:39.416 and I had no idea how or if I could make a life without him. 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.816 So I turned to science. 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.416 I researched everything I could find about the science of romantic love, 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:51.536 and I think I was hoping that it might somehow inoculate me from heartache. 00:08:51.560 --> 00:08:54.200 I don't know if I realized this at the time -- 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.416 I thought I was just doing research for this book I was writing -- 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.856 but it seems really obvious in retrospect. 00:09:01.880 --> 00:09:06.296 I hoped that if I armed myself with the knowledge of romantic love, 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:10.960 I might never have to feel as terrible and lonely as I did then. 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:16.616 And all this knowledge has been useful in some ways. 00:09:16.640 --> 00:09:19.936 I am more patient with love. I am more relaxed. 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:23.536 I am more confident about asking for what I want. 00:09:23.560 --> 00:09:27.296 But I can also see myself more clearly, 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:31.576 and I can see that what I want is sometimes more 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:34.656 than can reasonably be asked for. 00:09:34.680 --> 00:09:38.136 What I want from love is a guarantee, 00:09:38.160 --> 00:09:40.376 not just that I am loved today 00:09:40.400 --> 00:09:42.816 and that I will be loved tomorrow, 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:48.040 but that I will continue to be loved by the person I love indefinitely. 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.736 Maybe it's this possibility of a guarantee 00:09:52.760 --> 00:09:54.736 that people were really asking about 00:09:54.760 --> 00:09:57.480 when they wanted to know if we were still together. 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:02.736 So the story that the media told about the 36 questions 00:10:02.760 --> 00:10:06.056 was that there might be a shortcut to falling in love. 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:09.816 There might be a way to somehow mitigate some of the risk involved, 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.456 and this is a very appealing story, 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:15.656 because falling in love feels amazing, 00:10:15.680 --> 00:10:18.416 but it's also terrifying. 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:21.016 The moment you admit to loving someone, 00:10:21.040 --> 00:10:23.680 you admit to having a lot to lose, 00:10:24.640 --> 00:10:28.856 and it's true that these questions do provide a mechanism 00:10:28.880 --> 00:10:31.176 for getting to know someone quickly, 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.736 which is also a mechanism for being known, 00:10:33.760 --> 00:10:38.216 and I think this is the thing that most of us really want from love: 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:42.320 to be known, to be seen, to be understood. 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.136 But I think when it comes to love, 00:10:45.160 --> 00:10:49.656 we are too willing to accept the short version of the story. 00:10:49.680 --> 00:10:53.256 The version of the story that asks "Are you still together?" 00:10:53.280 --> 00:10:56.400 and is content with a yes or no answer. 00:10:57.560 --> 00:10:59.496 So rather than that question, 00:10:59.520 --> 00:11:03.176 I would propose we ask some more difficult questions, 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:04.400 questions like: 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:08.096 How do you decide who deserves your love 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:09.360 and who does not? 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:14.096 How do you stay in love when things get difficult, 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:16.640 and how do you know when to just cut and run? 00:11:17.880 --> 00:11:19.776 How do you live with the doubt 00:11:19.800 --> 00:11:22.816 that inevitably creeps into every relationship, 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:24.456 or even harder, 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.840 how do you live with your partner's doubt? 00:11:27.800 --> 00:11:31.416 I don't necessarily know the answers to these questions, 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:36.576 but I think they're an important start at having a more thoughtful conversation 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.760 about what it means to love someone. 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:42.416 So, if you want it, 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:46.736 the short version of the story of my relationship is this: 00:11:46.760 --> 00:11:49.856 a year ago, an acquaintance and I did a study 00:11:49.880 --> 00:11:52.576 designed to create romantic love, 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.296 and we fell in love, 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.176 and we are still together, 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.360 and I am so glad. 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:03.800 But falling in love is not the same thing as staying in love. 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:06.840 Falling in love is the easy part. 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:12.736 So at the end of my article, I wrote, "Love didn't happen to us. 00:12:12.760 --> 00:12:16.056 We're in love because we each made the choice to be." 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:20.256 And I cringe a little when I read that now, 00:12:20.280 --> 00:12:22.576 not because it isn't true, 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.816 but because at the time, I really hadn't considered 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.456 everything that was contained in that choice. 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:34.696 I didn't consider how many times we would each have to make that choice, 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:38.296 and how many times I will continue to have to make that choice 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:42.136 without knowing whether or not he will always choose me. 00:12:42.160 --> 00:12:47.656 I want it to be enough to have asked and answered 36 questions, 00:12:47.680 --> 00:12:52.896 and to have chosen to love someone so generous and kind and fun 00:12:52.920 --> 00:12:57.920 and to have broadcast that choice in the biggest newspaper in America. 00:12:58.880 --> 00:13:01.976 But what I have done instead is turn my relationship 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:06.176 into the kind of myth I don't quite believe in. 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:10.456 And what I want, what perhaps I will spend my life wanting, 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.176 is for that myth to be true. 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:17.976 I want the happy ending implied by the title to my article, 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:19.496 which is, incidentally, 00:13:19.520 --> 00:13:23.176 the only part of the article that I didn't actually write. 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:26.496 (Laughter) 00:13:26.520 --> 00:13:31.216 But what I have instead is the chance to make the choice to love someone, 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.696 and the hope that he will choose to love me back, 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.416 and it is terrifying, 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.176 but that's the deal with love. 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:40.440 Thank you.