1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,920 Kosher and halal dietary guidelines—particularly in regards to the treatment and slaughter 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:11,160 of animals—have long sparked controversy and debate, even within their respective religious communities. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,960 The most contentious aspect of ritual slaughter—taking the international stage more than once—is 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:23,560 whether shechita and zabiha are the most humane and merciful or the most brutal and barbaric. 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,200 Hi it's Emily from Bite Size Vegan and welcome to another vegan nugget. 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,410 I’ll be honest that this has been one of the most daunting and profoundly challenging 7 00:00:36,410 --> 00:00:37,960 videos I’ve ever made. 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:43,460 As a vegan educator, I know all to well that dietary practice alone is a hot button issue. 9 00:00:43,460 --> 00:00:48,680 Add in religion, culture, heritage, politics, and money, and you’ve got a proper powder 10 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,180 keg of a topic. 11 00:00:50,180 --> 00:00:54,460 So before we get started, there are some very important caveats I need to clarify. 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,020 As Jewish and Islamic scholars continue to study, debate, and deepen their own understanding 13 00:01:00,030 --> 00:01:03,270 of kashrut and halal meat and slaughter even after thousands 14 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:05,720 thousands of years, it’s not only unrealistic but 15 00:01:05,729 --> 00:01:11,420 also irresponsible to assume that I can adequately comprehend and convey the entirety of their 16 00:01:11,420 --> 00:01:13,180 teachings within a single video. 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,460 Presenting incredibly complex concepts in a simplified format always runs the risk of 18 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:20,409 being overly reductionist. 19 00:01:20,409 --> 00:01:25,479 This is why—as with all of my content—this video has an accompanying blog post with citations, 20 00:01:25,479 --> 00:01:30,039 an extensive bibliography, and in this case, portions of my original essay that were cut 21 00:01:30,039 --> 00:01:31,420 for the sake of time. 22 00:01:31,420 --> 00:01:36,479 That it remains a comparatively lengthy video is a testament to the complexity of this topic. 23 00:01:36,479 --> 00:01:41,409 Additionally, this video is not an attack on Judaism, Islam, or even religion as whole. 24 00:01:41,409 --> 00:01:46,310 The aim here is to take a hard look at kosher and halal slaughter and evaluate whether they 25 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:49,219 are genuinely humane, merciful practices. 26 00:01:49,219 --> 00:01:54,149 Such an assessment is perhaps even more vital for their adherents, as violation of these 27 00:01:54,149 --> 00:01:57,349 principles compromises the very foundation of their faith. 28 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,280 In fact, the values espoused by animal advocates opposed to ritual slaughter are, according 29 00:02:03,290 --> 00:02:08,179 to Jewish and Islamic leaders, the very basis of halal and kosher practices. 30 00:02:08,179 --> 00:02:12,450 But this potential common ground is rarely explored as almost every public debate over 31 00:02:12,450 --> 00:02:17,000 ritual slaughter arises from undercover footage exposing the horrifically brutal treatment 32 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,540 of animals in halal and kosher slaughterhouses. 33 00:02:19,540 --> 00:02:25,360 As this abuse grossly violates halal and kosher laws, rightly drawing outrage from all sides, 34 00:02:25,660 --> 00:02:31,160 the ultimate conclusion is almost always a call for better regulations and stricter enforcement 35 00:02:31,170 --> 00:02:36,730 of halal and kosher standards, leaving unanswered the very the question of whether these methods—when 36 00:02:36,730 --> 00:02:41,990 carried out as intended—are humane, and failing to address what truly lies at the 37 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:47,710 heart of the humane slaughter debate as a whole: is it even possible to end the life 38 00:02:47,710 --> 00:02:50,430 of another being in a way that is kind? 39 00:02:51,230 --> 00:02:55,900 In the effort to actually address this core question through the overwhelmingly complex 40 00:02:55,900 --> 00:03:01,680 lens of the ritual slaughter debate, I’m approaching this topic in a deliberately different manner. 41 00:03:02,190 --> 00:03:06,070 Let’s begin with a brief overview of the similarities and differences between kosher 42 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:07,600 and halal dietary laws. 43 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,920 Meaning “right/proper” and “lawful/permitted” respectively, both terms encompass far more 44 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:16,070 than their most recognized application to meat and slaughter. 45 00:03:16,070 --> 00:03:19,400 Their origins are rooted in scripture—the Tanakh and Talmud (written and oral Torah) 46 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,036 for kashrut and the Quran and various hadith (report describing the words, actions, or 47 00:03:22,036 --> 00:03:23,170 habits of the Islamic prophet Muhammad) for halal. 48 00:03:23,170 --> 00:03:27,800 Both dictate which species may or may not be eaten, expressly prohibit the consumption 49 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:33,350 of blood—thus requiring complete exsanguination of the corpse—and specify animals must be 50 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:37,730 alive, healthy, and uninjured at the time of their slaughter, which is to be performed 51 00:03:37,730 --> 00:03:40,819 with a swift cut from a sharpened knife (chalaf or chalef in kosher) in order to minimize 52 00:03:40,819 --> 00:03:43,010 pain and provide the quickest death. 53 00:03:43,010 --> 00:03:47,030 While there are numerous differences and nuances between the two sets of laws, the most notable 54 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:51,860 variation in regards to the humane debate is their stance on pre-slaughter stunning. 55 00:03:51,860 --> 00:03:56,530 Kosher standards explicitly require animals be fully conscious and aware when killed. 56 00:03:56,530 --> 00:04:01,790 Some Jewish individuals, like Rabbi Shmuly Yanklowitz, advocate the adoption of post-slaughter 57 00:04:01,790 --> 00:04:06,440 stunning—meaning immediately after the throat is cut—stating that “the drawn out moments 58 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,660 between the slaughter and final death are terribly painful and stressful for the dying 59 00:04:10,660 --> 00:04:15,960 animal [who is] completely conscious and continues to shake in extreme pain for minutes after 60 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,029 the neck is cut.” 61 00:04:17,029 --> 00:04:22,130 However post-slaughter stunning lacks any majority acceptance within the Jewish community. 62 00:04:22,130 --> 00:04:26,080 While halal slaughter is traditionally—and still typically—also carried out on fully 63 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,270 conscious animals, some Muslim authorities have approved very particular methods of pre-slaughter 64 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:33,919 stunning, given they meet specific requirements (must be nonlethal such that animal would 65 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:34,919 regain consciousness in less than a minute and be able to eat within five minutes) and 66 00:04:34,919 --> 00:04:39,909 almost all halal slaughter plants in Australia and New Zealand perform pre-slaughter stunning. 67 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:42,840 This brings us to another layer of complexity. 68 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:47,319 Irrevocably intertwined with the question of ritual slaughter’s “humaneness” is 69 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:50,410 the role of governmental bodies in its regulation. 70 00:04:50,410 --> 00:04:55,310 Every country with humane slaughter regulations—which in and of themselves are a study in human 71 00:04:55,310 --> 00:05:00,180 ingenuity and self-deception—requires stunning animals prior to slaughter. 72 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:05,419 However, the vast majority—including the United States—contain exemptions for religious 73 00:05:05,419 --> 00:05:09,379 slaughter, with the whole of the European Union specifically mandating member states 74 00:05:09,379 --> 00:05:11,800 permit non-stunning kosher slaughter. 75 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,860 Just as the humane treatment of animals is confoundingly offered as both the main objection 76 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:23,120 to and justification for ritual slaughter, the issue is further muddied when every government’s 77 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,080 humane regulations require stunning, yet simultaneously defend ritual slaughter 78 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,240 with arguments of its enhanced humaneness. 79 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,099 How can this possibly be? 80 00:05:33,099 --> 00:05:36,419 All methods of slaughter cannot simultaneously be the most humane. 81 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,980 Who is truly in the right? 82 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:44,100 Perhaps the most influential and oft-referenced study in regards to the humanness of ritual 83 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:50,039 slaughter is the 1994 paper from Dr. Temple Grandin, widely heralded as the foremost authority 84 00:05:50,039 --> 00:05:53,809 on humane livestock handling and slaughterhouse restraint system design. 85 00:05:53,809 --> 00:05:58,259 Grandin emphasizes the “need to critically consider the scientific information available 86 00:05:58,259 --> 00:06:03,259 about the effects of different slaughter practices on animals before reaching any judgments about 87 00:06:03,259 --> 00:06:08,089 the appropriateness of a particular form of slaughter” and to “understand the importance 88 00:06:08,089 --> 00:06:11,900 of these practices to the people who follow these religious codes.” 89 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:17,009 The study outlines three basic concerns: stressfulness of restraint methods, pain perception during 90 00:06:17,009 --> 00:06:22,039 the incision and latency of onset of complete insensibility, meaning how long it takes for 91 00:06:22,039 --> 00:06:26,779 the animal to lose consciousness—and thus stop feeling pain—after their throat is cut. 92 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,380 Because animals are conscious at the time of ritual slaughter, they 93 00:06:30,380 --> 00:06:32,539 must be fully bodily restrained. 94 00:06:32,539 --> 00:06:36,759 A large contributor to the confusion within the humane debate is the extreme variation 95 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:41,979 of restraint systems and methodologies utilized around the world and even from factory to factory. 96 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:47,759 For a rather exhaustive 76-slide PowerPoint presentation—from meat industry insiders—detailing 97 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:53,499 these variations, complete with photographic illustrations and their impact on profits, 98 00:06:53,499 --> 00:06:55,479 see the blog post. 99 00:06:55,479 --> 00:06:59,529 One of the most objectionable and decidedly stressful forms of restraint is shackling 100 00:06:59,529 --> 00:07:04,110 and hoisting animals while fully conscious, a method banned in Canada and other countries, 101 00:07:04,110 --> 00:07:07,990 but still used in North and South America, Israel, and many others. 102 00:07:07,990 --> 00:07:11,909 The primary method of restraint utilized for ritual slaughter without stunning in Europe, 103 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:17,249 as well as Israel, and select US plants, is a full inversion pen, wherein cows are flipped 104 00:07:17,249 --> 00:07:21,070 upside down with a head restraint exposing their neck for slaughter. 105 00:07:21,070 --> 00:07:25,060 Largely preferred by Jewish and Muslim communities, because they allow for a more natural and 106 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:29,819 controlled cutting motion, Grandin’s research along with subsequent studies, including one 107 00:07:29,819 --> 00:07:34,779 in 2004 from the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), found this method highly stressful 108 00:07:34,779 --> 00:07:37,879 for cows, recommending instead upright restraint. 109 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:43,189 However, facing pushback from religious communities and what it cryptically refers to as “different 110 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:48,039 stakeholders,” the European Commission ordered an extensive investigation and report comparing 111 00:07:48,039 --> 00:07:49,919 upright and inverted methods. 112 00:07:49,919 --> 00:07:56,719 The report, issued on February 8, 2016, exactly 3 years and 2 months after its due date and 113 00:07:56,719 --> 00:08:01,749 over 6 years after its commission, concluded that there was no discernable different in 114 00:08:01,749 --> 00:08:03,849 animal welfare between the methods. 115 00:08:03,849 --> 00:08:08,289 It’s no wonder there’s such confusion and conflict surrounding ritual slaughter. 116 00:08:08,289 --> 00:08:13,189 With such variation in methodology, conflicting scientific studies and governmental back and 117 00:08:13,189 --> 00:08:17,909 forth, influenced to varying degrees by religious tensions, political pressure and meat industry 118 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:22,190 interests, how can anyone be sure what kosher and halal even mean anymore? 119 00:08:22,190 --> 00:08:27,559 Just as humane and free-range labels lack any meaningful improvements for animals, and 120 00:08:27,559 --> 00:08:33,210 governmental mandates lack timely—or any—enforcement, halal and kosher certifications have time 121 00:08:33,210 --> 00:08:38,490 and again been exposed as inadequately enforced, with rampant violations of both religious 122 00:08:38,490 --> 00:08:42,539 and governmental laws being the norm rather than the exception. 123 00:08:42,539 --> 00:08:48,310 A particularly horrific undercover investigation conducted in Postville, Iowa, at AgriProcessors, 124 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:53,990 the largest kosher slaughterhouse in the America, revealed unbelievably barbaric footage, subsequently 125 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:58,670 featured in the documentary Earthlings, and sparked international outrage from all camps. 126 00:08:58,670 --> 00:09:03,430 While I believe it’s of vital importance to witness the reality of what we do to animals, 127 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:07,840 I’m not including this footage here as it would no doubt result in this video being 128 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,500 age restricted, thus severely limiting accessibility to the remaining information. 129 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:17,000 I have provided a link to the video, along with a mini-documentary response from the 130 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,680 Jewish community and additional videos of halal investigations. 131 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:30,450 The undercover investigator at AgriProcessors described in his notes seeing cow after cow 132 00:09:30,450 --> 00:09:35,680 loaded into the full inversion rotating restraint and having their trachea or esophagus ripped 133 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:39,070 out of their open throats as they aspirated on their own blood. 134 00:09:39,070 --> 00:09:42,880 They were then dumped onto the blood-soaked floor and many struggled to stand with their 135 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,770 heads nearly severed off. 136 00:09:44,770 --> 00:09:47,400 One managed to stand and walked into the corner. 137 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,580 Some cried out despite their torn throats. 138 00:09:49,580 --> 00:09:50,580 He wrote: 139 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:54,700 “The first time I saw a cow stagger to his feet and walk around with his trachea dangling 140 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:58,590 outside of his body, I thought to myself, this can’t be happening—but after several 141 00:09:58,590 --> 00:09:59,910 days I knew better. 142 00:09:59,910 --> 00:10:04,080 There is no justification for the cruelty I documented in that slaughterhouse. 143 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,500 The presence of the USDA didn’t have any effect, nor did the presence of the rabbis. 144 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:12,820 These animals were failed by both religion and regulations.” 145 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:17,420 Jewish and Islamic communities were appalled by this footage, and even Temple Grandin said 146 00:10:17,420 --> 00:10:20,000 it was “the most disgusting thing I’d ever seen. 147 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,290 I couldn’t believe it.” 148 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:25,610 When Grandin, visited the plant, workers had performed the slaughter to her standards, 149 00:10:25,610 --> 00:10:27,060 as they did for visiting rabbis. 150 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:31,660 But the undercover footage taken over seven weeks showed this barbaric treatment was in 151 00:10:31,660 --> 00:10:36,670 fact standard operating procedure, leaving Grandin to conclude “the only way to ensure 152 00:10:36,670 --> 00:10:40,980 that correct procedures are followed in this plant is to install video cameras that can 153 00:10:40,980 --> 00:10:42,830 be audited over the internet.” 154 00:10:42,830 --> 00:10:48,120 This of course begs the question: what is going on inside of every other plant she’s 155 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,610 approved—or any slaughterhouse for that matter—when no one is watching? 156 00:10:53,610 --> 00:10:56,110 These atrocities are not anomalies. 157 00:10:56,110 --> 00:11:00,300 In an interview with activist Anita Krajnc of Toronto Pig Save, a kill floor worker from 158 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:05,300 Riding Regency Meat Packers, a Halal and Kosher slaughterhouse in Toronto, Canada, observed 159 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:09,370 rabbis reaching into the cows’ neck and grabbing their esophagus. 160 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:14,170 He described how cows are routinely still conscious when chained and hung upside down, 161 00:11:14,170 --> 00:11:20,040 taking four to five minutes to die, such that the first few cows of each day reach the “scalper” 162 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,620 and are fully aware when the skin is peeled from their face. 163 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:26,210 Where is the regulation in all of this? 164 00:11:26,210 --> 00:11:29,790 For many in the Jewish community, that was the most astounding aspect of the 165 00:11:29,790 --> 00:11:31,660 AgriProcessers scandal. 166 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:36,630 In the face of this blatant brutality decried by every side of the issue, The Orthodox Union, 167 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:41,320 which certified the plant as kosher, stated “We continue to vouch for the kashrut of 168 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,060 all of the meat prepared by AgriProcessors, Inc., which was never compromised." 169 00:11:46,060 --> 00:11:50,250 In a most poignant summation, religious scholar Dr. Aaron Gross writes: 170 00:11:50,250 --> 00:11:55,390 “the fact that the products of factory farming and even abusive facilities like AgriProcessors 171 00:11:55,390 --> 00:12:00,820 are given moral legitimacy by being deemed ‘kosher,’ transforms kashrut from an ethical 172 00:12:00,820 --> 00:12:04,920 system into one that helps mask organized animal abuse. 173 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,540 This awkward situation is so far from the moral vision of kashrut that it is painful 174 00:12:09,540 --> 00:12:10,770 to even acknowledge.” 175 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:15,070 As I said at the start of this video, while it’s vital to acknowledge that violations 176 00:12:15,070 --> 00:12:20,690 are the norm rather than the exception within kosher and halal factories, in order to truly 177 00:12:20,690 --> 00:12:26,030 evaluate the ethics of ritual slaughter, we must strive to assess the principles in their 178 00:12:26,030 --> 00:12:32,990 ideal manifestation, even if such a manifestation doesn’t actually exist in any current application. 179 00:12:32,990 --> 00:12:37,680 In the end, after all of this human-created noise and confusion, the best way to answer 180 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:41,020 whether ritual slaughter is humane is by simple observation. 181 00:12:41,020 --> 00:12:45,440 I’m even going to far as to edit out the actual cutting of the throat 182 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,400 or any visuals of blood. 183 00:12:47,410 --> 00:12:51,341 So let’s observe this most profoundly idealized example of ritual slaughter. 184 00:12:54,341 --> 00:12:58,690 “The position has to be very comfortable for the animal first, so he can cooperate 185 00:12:58,690 --> 00:13:01,290 with me and I’m be comfortable to give him a good slaughter. 186 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,940 I want to assure you - only lucky animals are slaughtered here—they are very proud 187 00:14:34,940 --> 00:14:40,580 to fulfill their mission—it’s a necessary act for this meat to reach your table.” 188 00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:48,860 Even in this most idealized and artificially sterilized scenario—which even the slaughterer 189 00:14:48,860 --> 00:14:53,450 states is the exception—its evident this sheep was not a wiling participant. 190 00:14:53,450 --> 00:14:58,040 Ending the life any sentient being prematurely and against their will cannot possibly be 191 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,130 a humane or merciful act. 192 00:15:00,130 --> 00:15:03,600 Just like children, these beings cannot give us their consent. 193 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:09,100 His cessation of struggling after much manipulation and assurance is more of a sad statement of 194 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:14,460 his innocent yet misplaced trust in his caretaker turned slaughterer than any form of willful 195 00:15:14,460 --> 00:15:18,050 submission through a full comprehension of what’s to come. 196 00:15:18,050 --> 00:15:22,691 The assertion that this act is necessary, thus justifying the lesser of the evils, is 197 00:15:22,691 --> 00:15:28,060 one of the main rationalizations offered by meat eaters, secular and religious alike. 198 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:34,300 But no religion—Judaism and Islam included—mandates the consumption of animals. 199 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:38,860 In fact, as I cover in my video series History of Veganism, primarily in the Middle Ages 200 00:15:38,860 --> 00:15:43,760 episode, the Quran and hadith contain numerous verses in support of compassion and respect 201 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,740 for animals, even emphasizing the consumption of fruits and vegetables to sustain humans 202 00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:50,400 and animals alike. 203 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,190 And following Genesis 1:29, Rabbinic tradition has taught that human beings were originally 204 00:15:55,190 --> 00:15:59,750 vegetarian in the garden of Eden and it was only after the fall and the flood that meat 205 00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:01,480 eating was reluctantly permitted. 206 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,240 Thus the spiritual ideal is a diet free of animal products. 207 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,260 There are countless Jewish and Muslim vegans, many of whom state their decision to go vegan 208 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:14,360 was a natural extension of their religious practice, and greatly deepened their connection 209 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,360 to their faith. 210 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,820 The myth of humane slaughter reaches beyond any religion. 211 00:16:18,820 --> 00:16:24,029 Humanity as a whole consistently strives to excuse and justify the enslavement, torture, 212 00:16:24,029 --> 00:16:25,430 and murder of sentient beings. 213 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:30,130 There’s a level of absurdity with how much time, energy, detail, government money, and 214 00:16:30,130 --> 00:16:35,910 paperwork goes into finding just the right way to kill. 215 00:16:35,910 --> 00:16:41,310 We point fingers at inexcusable abuse in other countries, cultures, religions, and specific 216 00:16:41,310 --> 00:16:46,490 companies, erupting in righteous outrage and conveniently avoiding any assessment of our 217 00:16:46,490 --> 00:16:50,570 own complicity in the deaths of the animals on our plates. 218 00:16:50,570 --> 00:16:55,010 I’ll conclude with the words of Jewish author, noble laureate and Holocaust survivor 219 00:16:55,010 --> 00:16:56,420 Isaac Bashevis Singer, 220 00:16:56,430 --> 00:17:01,120 “People often say that humans have always eaten animals, as if this is a justification 221 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,060 for continuing the practice. 222 00:17:03,060 --> 00:17:07,130 According to this logic, we should not try to prevent people from murdering other people, 223 00:17:07,130 --> 00:17:10,180 since this has also been done since the earliest of times.” 224 00:17:10,180 --> 00:17:12,569 I’d love to hear your thoughts in the comments below. 225 00:17:12,569 --> 00:17:16,680 If you’d like to help support Bite Size Vegan so I can keep putting in the long hours 226 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,630 to bring you this free educational resource, please check out the support links in the 227 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:24,390 video description below where you can give a one-time donation or see the link in the 228 00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:26,830 sidebar to join the Nugget Army on Patreon. 229 00:17:26,830 --> 00:17:31,370 I’d like to give a special thanks my $50 and above patrons and my whole Patreon family 230 00:17:31,370 --> 00:17:35,300 for making this and all of my videos possible. 231 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:40,440 Please share this video far and wide to inform and spur focused, constructive 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