0:00:00.100,0:00:02.050 ♪ (música) ♪ 0:00:03.620,0:00:05.700 - [Narradora] Bienvenidos[br]a Nobel Conversations. 0:00:07.000,0:00:08.521 En este episodio,[br]Josh Angrist y Guido Imbens 0:00:08.521,0:00:09.282 están con Isaiah Andrews[br]para discutir y discrepar 0:00:09.282,0:00:09.662 sobre el papel[br]del aprendizaje automático 0:00:09.662,0:00:10.043 en la econometría aplicada. 0:00:10.043,0:00:11.859 - [Isaiah] Entonces, por supuesto[br]que hay muchos temas 0:00:11.859,0:00:12.767 en los que ustedes están muy de acuerdo,[br]pero me gustaría pasar a uno 0:00:12.767,0:00:13.675 en el que tal vez[br]tengan algunas discrepancias. 0:00:13.675,0:00:15.127 Me gustaría escuchar[br]algunas de sus opiniones 0:00:15.127,0:00:15.853 sobre el aprendizaje automático 0:00:15.853,0:00:16.580 y el papel que está desempeñando[br]y va a desempeñar en la economía. 0:00:17.897,0:00:18.833 - [Guido] He consultado algunos datos[br]como el propietario----------------------. 0:00:18.833,0:00:19.301 Vemos que no hay[br]ningún documento publicado allí. 0:00:19.301,0:00:19.535 Se hizo un experimento[br]sobre algún algoritmo de búsqueda 0:00:19.535,0:00:19.652 y la cuestión era... 0:00:19.652,0:00:19.710 se trataba de clasificar cosas[br]y cambiar la clasificación. 0:00:19.710,0:00:19.739 Y estaba más o menos claro[br]que iba a haber mucha heterogeneidad. 0:00:19.739,0:00:19.754 Si buscas, digamos, una foto de Britney Spears -- 0:00:19.754,0:00:19.761 realmente no importa dónde la clasifiques-----------------------------------[br]porque vas a encontrar lo que estás buscando, 0:00:19.761,0:00:19.765 ya sea que la pongas en la primera,[br]segunda o tercera posición del ranking. 0:00:19.765,0:00:19.767 Pero si estás buscando[br]el mejor libro de econometría, 0:00:19.767,0:00:19.768 si pones tu libro en primer lugar[br]o en el décimo, 0:00:19.768,0:00:19.768 eso va a suponer una gran diferencia 0:00:19.768,0:00:19.768 en la frecuencia[br]con la que la gente va a hacer clic en él. 0:00:19.768,0:00:19.769 Así que ahí... 0:00:22.313,0:00:23.276 [Josh] ¿Por qué necesito[br]el aprendizaje automático para descubrir eso? 0:00:23.276,0:00:24.240 Parece que --porque puedo descubrirlo simplemente.----------------------- 0:00:24.240,0:00:24.984 - [Guido] En general -- 0:00:24.984,0:00:25.356 - [Josh] Había un montón de posibles... 0:00:25.356,0:00:25.542 - Quieres pensar en que hay un montón de características de los artículos, 0:00:25.542,0:00:25.635 que quieres entender lo que impulsa la heterogeneidad en el efecto de -- 0:00:25.635,0:00:25.681 - Pero solo estás prediciendo. 0:00:25.681,0:00:25.704 En cierto sentido, estás resolviendo[br]un problema de marketing. 0:00:25.704,0:00:25.716 - No, es un efecto causal, 0:00:25.716,0:00:25.722 - Es causal, pero no tiene contenido científico. 0:00:25.722,0:00:25.725 Piensa en... 0:00:25.725,0:00:25.726 - No, pero hay cosas similares[br]en el ámbito médico. 0:00:25.726,0:00:25.727 Si haces un experimento, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 puedes estar muy interesado[br]en si el tratamiento funciona 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 para algunos grupos o no. 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 Y tienes un montón[br]de características individuales, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 y quieres buscar sistemáticamente... 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 - Sí. Soy escéptico sobre esa... 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 esa especie de idea de que hay[br]un efecto causal personal 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 que me debería importar 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 y que el aprendizaje automático[br]puede descubrirlo de alguna manera que sea útil. 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 Así que piensa en -- 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 he hecho[br]un montón de trabajo en las escuelas, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 ir a, digamos, una escuela charter,------------------------------------------------- 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 una escuela privada financiada[br]con fondos públicos, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 efectivamente, que es libre de estructurar[br]su propio plan de estudios para el contexto allí. 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 Algunos tipos de escuelas chárter[br]generan espectaculares ganancias de rendimiento 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 y en el conjunto de datos[br]que produce ese resultado, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 tengo un montón de covariables. 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 Así que tengo las puntuaciones de referencia 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 y tengo los antecedentes familiares, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 la educación de los padres,[br]el sexo del niño, la raza del niño. 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 Y, bueno, en cuanto reúno[br]media docena de ellas, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 tengo un espacio de muy alta dimensión. 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 Definitivamente me interesan[br]las características del curso 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 de ese efecto del tratamiento, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 como por ejemplo si es mejor para las personas[br]que provienen de familias con menores ingresos. 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 Me cuesta creer que haya una aplicación para la versión de muy alta dimensión de eso, 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 en la que descubrí[br]que para los niños no blancos 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 que tienen ingresos familiares altos 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.727 pero puntuaciones de referencia en el tercer cuartil 0:00:25.727,0:00:25.728 y que solo fueron a la escuela pública[br]en el tercer grado pero no en el sexto. 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