WEBVTT 00:00:00.490 --> 00:00:03.150 - Hi this is Sarah Mikesell with thepigsite.com 00:00:03.150 --> 00:00:05.340 and today we're here with Nate Jackman. 00:00:05.340 --> 00:00:10.340 He is a livestock specialist with MWI Veterinarian Supply. 00:00:10.955 --> 00:00:13.150 Thanks for being with us today, Nate. 00:00:13.150 --> 00:00:13.983 - Thank you. 00:00:13.983 --> 00:00:16.420 - So you're out with farmers, producers, 00:00:16.420 --> 00:00:19.980 on a daily basis with your position. 00:00:19.980 --> 00:00:22.610 Tell us a little bit about what trends you're seeing. 00:00:22.610 --> 00:00:25.380 What industry trends are going on out there. 00:00:25.380 --> 00:00:27.970 - Well currently, one thing I've been 00:00:27.970 --> 00:00:30.630 talking a lot about with veterinarians and producers 00:00:30.630 --> 00:00:33.195 is iron deficiency in baby pigs. 00:00:33.195 --> 00:00:35.783 Something we've been doing is we've been going 00:00:35.783 --> 00:00:38.604 into some producers, into some sal units 00:00:38.604 --> 00:00:41.850 and we've been doing hemoglobin tests 00:00:41.850 --> 00:00:44.170 on these baby pigs and what we've been finding 00:00:44.170 --> 00:00:48.230 is that these pigs are anemic and deficient in iron 00:00:48.230 --> 00:00:50.320 and that we're trying to get the word out there 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:55.290 that the weening weight of a baby pig is a lot greater 00:00:55.290 --> 00:00:58.200 than it was 30, 40 years ago. 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.320 But our protocol, there's a lot of protocols out there 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:02.520 still recommending the same amount of iron 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:04.232 that we gave them 30-40 years ago. 00:01:04.232 --> 00:01:06.576 So what we're doing is we're testing pigs, 00:01:06.576 --> 00:01:10.410 baby pigs, healthy, big, baby pigs 00:01:10.410 --> 00:01:12.354 and we're finding that those pigs are anemic 00:01:12.354 --> 00:01:14.773 and they need another dose of iron 00:01:14.773 --> 00:01:17.590 so what we're recommending to veterinarians 00:01:17.590 --> 00:01:21.130 and producers is that we give a 200 milligram dose 00:01:21.130 --> 00:01:23.670 at day one and we give another 200 milligram dose 00:01:23.670 --> 00:01:26.715 at day 14 and give that pig enough iron 00:01:26.715 --> 00:01:31.715 before we ween that pig and send it off to the nursery. 00:01:31.730 --> 00:01:33.790 So that's one thing that I've been talking a lot about 00:01:33.790 --> 00:01:36.790 and fortunately I work with a lot of producers 00:01:36.790 --> 00:01:39.640 that are open to that, open to the fact that, 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:41.451 hey show me something that's not working 00:01:41.451 --> 00:01:43.930 that we're doing and let's try to fix it 00:01:43.930 --> 00:01:46.130 and we've been doing pin side tests, 00:01:46.130 --> 00:01:49.810 in these sal units, and testing them with a HemoCue, 00:01:49.810 --> 00:01:51.760 a hemoglobin test unit. - Yep. 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:54.410 - A two or three minute test, and we find out 00:01:54.410 --> 00:01:58.540 if that pig is deficient or not and we kind of 00:01:58.540 --> 00:02:02.180 pick pigs at random and then we show the data 00:02:02.180 --> 00:02:05.430 to them afterwards and show them, that yes 00:02:05.430 --> 00:02:06.480 these pigs are anemic. 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.170 So that's one of the trends going on right now. 00:02:09.170 --> 00:02:12.700 I don't think that out of a half a dozen farms 00:02:12.700 --> 00:02:15.176 that we've been on that we really been surprised 00:02:15.176 --> 00:02:17.535 but we have surprised our producers 00:02:17.535 --> 00:02:19.782 and I think we've changed a lot of minds 00:02:19.782 --> 00:02:21.540 and a lot of protocols. 00:02:21.540 --> 00:02:23.444 - It sounds like diagnostics is playing 00:02:23.444 --> 00:02:27.200 a bigger role in what you're doing these days. 00:02:27.200 --> 00:02:29.270 - Yes ma'am, that diagnostics is big, 00:02:29.270 --> 00:02:31.760 because it's not so much the sales rep 00:02:31.760 --> 00:02:34.510 coming in here saying, hey you gotta do this, 00:02:34.510 --> 00:02:36.710 you gotta do this, and they think okay, 00:02:36.710 --> 00:02:38.776 the sales rep just trying to sell products. 00:02:38.776 --> 00:02:42.184 What we're trying to do is let the science prove itself. 00:02:42.184 --> 00:02:45.968 Here's the data and these are your pigs we're testing 00:02:45.968 --> 00:02:49.090 so we're just letting the science speak for itself. 00:02:49.090 --> 00:02:51.270 - Very good, excellent, well thank you 00:02:51.270 --> 00:02:53.050 so much for your time today Nate. 00:02:53.050 --> 00:02:54.010 - Thank you. 00:02:54.010 --> 00:02:57.903 - Very good, this is Sarah Mikesell, with thepigsite.com.