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- Hi this is Sarah Mikesell
with thepigsite.com

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and today we're here with Nate Jackman.

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He is a livestock specialist
with MWI Veterinarian Supply.

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Thanks for being with us today, Nate.

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- Thank you.

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- So you're out with farmers, producers,

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on a daily basis with your position.

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Tell us a little bit about
what trends you're seeing.

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What industry trends
are going on out there.

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- Well currently, one thing I've been

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talking a lot about with
veterinarians and producers

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is iron deficiency in baby pigs.

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Something we've been
doing is we've been going

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into some producers, into some sal units

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and we've been doing hemoglobin tests

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on these baby pigs and
what we've been finding

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is that these pigs are
anemic and deficient in iron

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and that we're trying to
get the word out there

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that the weening weight of
a baby pig is a lot greater

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than it was 30, 40 years ago.

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But our protocol, there's a
lot of protocols out there

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still recommending the same amount of iron

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that we gave them 30-40 years ago.

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So what we're doing is we're testing pigs,

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baby pigs, healthy, big, baby pigs

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and we're finding that
those pigs are anemic

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and they need another dose of iron

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so what we're recommending
to veterinarians

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and producers is that we
give a 200 milligram dose

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at day one and we give
another 200 milligram dose

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at day 14 and give that pig enough iron

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before we ween that pig and
send it off to the nursery.

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So that's one thing that
I've been talking a lot about

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and fortunately I work
with a lot of producers

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that are open to that,
open to the fact that,

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hey show me something that's not working

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that we're doing and let's try to fix it

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and we've been doing pin side tests,

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in these sal units, and
testing them with a HemoCue,

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a hemoglobin test unit.
- Yep.

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- A two or three minute
test, and we find out

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if that pig is deficient
or not and we kind of

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pick pigs at random and
then we show the data

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to them afterwards and show them, that yes

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these pigs are anemic.

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So that's one of the
trends going on right now.

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I don't think that out
of a half a dozen farms

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that we've been on that
we really been surprised

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but we have surprised our producers

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and I think we've changed a lot of minds

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and a lot of protocols.

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- It sounds like diagnostics is playing

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a bigger role in what
you're doing these days.

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- Yes ma'am, that diagnostics is big,

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because it's not so much the sales rep

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coming in here saying,
hey you gotta do this,

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you gotta do this, and they think okay,

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the sales rep just
trying to sell products.

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What we're trying to do is
let the science prove itself.

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Here's the data and these
are your pigs we're testing

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so we're just letting the
science speak for itself.

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- Very good, excellent, well thank you

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so much for your time today Nate.

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- Thank you.

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- Very good, this is Sarah
Mikesell, with thepigsite.com.