0:00:00.490,0:00:03.150 - Hi this is Sarah Mikesell[br]with thepigsite.com 0:00:03.150,0:00:05.340 and today we're here with Nate Jackman. 0:00:05.340,0:00:10.340 He is a livestock specialist[br]with MWI Veterinarian Supply. 0:00:10.955,0:00:13.150 Thanks for being with us today, Nate. 0:00:13.150,0:00:13.983 - Thank you. 0:00:13.983,0:00:16.420 - So you're out with farmers, producers, 0:00:16.420,0:00:19.980 on a daily basis with your position. 0:00:19.980,0:00:22.610 Tell us a little bit about[br]what trends you're seeing. 0:00:22.610,0:00:25.380 What industry trends[br]are going on out there. 0:00:25.380,0:00:27.970 - Well currently, one thing I've been 0:00:27.970,0:00:30.630 talking a lot about with[br]veterinarians and producers 0:00:30.630,0:00:33.195 is iron deficiency in baby pigs. 0:00:33.195,0:00:35.783 Something we've been[br]doing is we've been going 0:00:35.783,0:00:38.604 into some producers, into some sal units 0:00:38.604,0:00:41.850 and we've been doing hemoglobin tests 0:00:41.850,0:00:44.170 on these baby pigs and[br]what we've been finding 0:00:44.170,0:00:48.230 is that these pigs are[br]anemic and deficient in iron 0:00:48.230,0:00:50.320 and that we're trying to[br]get the word out there 0:00:50.320,0:00:55.290 that the weening weight of[br]a baby pig is a lot greater 0:00:55.290,0:00:58.200 than it was 30, 40 years ago. 0:00:58.200,0:01:00.320 But our protocol, there's a[br]lot of protocols out there 0:01:00.320,0:01:02.520 still recommending the same amount of iron 0:01:02.520,0:01:04.232 that we gave them 30-40 years ago. 0:01:04.232,0:01:06.576 So what we're doing is we're testing pigs, 0:01:06.576,0:01:10.410 baby pigs, healthy, big, baby pigs 0:01:10.410,0:01:12.354 and we're finding that[br]those pigs are anemic 0:01:12.354,0:01:14.773 and they need another dose of iron 0:01:14.773,0:01:17.590 so what we're recommending[br]to veterinarians 0:01:17.590,0:01:21.130 and producers is that we[br]give a 200 milligram dose 0:01:21.130,0:01:23.670 at day one and we give[br]another 200 milligram dose 0:01:23.670,0:01:26.715 at day 14 and give that pig enough iron 0:01:26.715,0:01:31.715 before we ween that pig and[br]send it off to the nursery. 0:01:31.730,0:01:33.790 So that's one thing that[br]I've been talking a lot about 0:01:33.790,0:01:36.790 and fortunately I work[br]with a lot of producers 0:01:36.790,0:01:39.640 that are open to that,[br]open to the fact that, 0:01:39.640,0:01:41.451 hey show me something that's not working 0:01:41.451,0:01:43.930 that we're doing and let's try to fix it 0:01:43.930,0:01:46.130 and we've been doing pin side tests, 0:01:46.130,0:01:49.810 in these sal units, and[br]testing them with a HemoCue, 0:01:49.810,0:01:51.760 a hemoglobin test unit.[br]- Yep. 0:01:51.760,0:01:54.410 - A two or three minute[br]test, and we find out 0:01:54.410,0:01:58.540 if that pig is deficient[br]or not and we kind of 0:01:58.540,0:02:02.180 pick pigs at random and[br]then we show the data 0:02:02.180,0:02:05.430 to them afterwards and show them, that yes 0:02:05.430,0:02:06.480 these pigs are anemic. 0:02:06.480,0:02:09.170 So that's one of the[br]trends going on right now. 0:02:09.170,0:02:12.700 I don't think that out[br]of a half a dozen farms 0:02:12.700,0:02:15.176 that we've been on that[br]we really been surprised 0:02:15.176,0:02:17.535 but we have surprised our producers 0:02:17.535,0:02:19.782 and I think we've changed a lot of minds 0:02:19.782,0:02:21.540 and a lot of protocols. 0:02:21.540,0:02:23.444 - It sounds like diagnostics is playing 0:02:23.444,0:02:27.200 a bigger role in what[br]you're doing these days. 0:02:27.200,0:02:29.270 - Yes ma'am, that diagnostics is big, 0:02:29.270,0:02:31.760 because it's not so much the sales rep 0:02:31.760,0:02:34.510 coming in here saying,[br]hey you gotta do this, 0:02:34.510,0:02:36.710 you gotta do this, and they think okay, 0:02:36.710,0:02:38.776 the sales rep just[br]trying to sell products. 0:02:38.776,0:02:42.184 What we're trying to do is[br]let the science prove itself. 0:02:42.184,0:02:45.968 Here's the data and these[br]are your pigs we're testing 0:02:45.968,0:02:49.090 so we're just letting the[br]science speak for itself. 0:02:49.090,0:02:51.270 - Very good, excellent, well thank you 0:02:51.270,0:02:53.050 so much for your time today Nate. 0:02:53.050,0:02:54.010 - Thank you. 0:02:54.010,0:02:57.903 - Very good, this is Sarah[br]Mikesell, with thepigsite.com.