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I'm Kalcu. I'll introduce myself as Kalcu.

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I live in an anti-authoritarian library

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somewhere in Valparaíso

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the work

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i do is

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I specifically deal with

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actions that

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have to do with creating propaganda

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from this space

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for context,

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the library space is over 15 years old

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for 15 years, the people who live

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in the library

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have generated activities

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and

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a political meeting place for liberatory

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collectives, individuals, and

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organizations

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here in the region of Valparaíso

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. . .

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I think the first thing is to find a

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group of people, a community, or a

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union, or

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or beings that are in your environment

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that have any conflicts in common

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and based on that conflict

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to agree to organize

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among people to achieve an objective

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I think that organizing

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it has to do with the ability

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of people. That ability that

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everyone can contribute every

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one with his or her own knowledge

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add up

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and different visions and

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different postures, different tools that

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each individual each

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person has then I believe

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that organizing is

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is important in the sense that

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organizing can add up

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a multiplicity of ideas easily

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a wealth of knowledge to

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reach an objective.

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When it is necessary

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to run, to get water

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to begin to bring rocks

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from such support on the streets

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it's been very evident lately

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that they are all important ways to help

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each part of the street culture's

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social fabric in the chaos like this.

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Without the person who has baking soda,

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or a lemon, or an ammonia, sometimes

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people who are out there facing repression

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couldn't be there

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or wouldn't even be able to move.

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or be able to get through the day

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with the same energy

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people who bring food that also

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so

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and all those kinds of organizing

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I find it interesting that

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so much of this is spontaneous

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I'd make a point

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about a symbiosis and a cooperation

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among the people who happen

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to be there at that minute,

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without any kind of organization 
or planning beforehand.

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For example, there are people who get fed

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but without necessarily knowing

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that other people are going to bring food.

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I think one of the most interesting things

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has been these new possibilities,

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these new visions

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of spontaneous organization

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where each person present has the

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opportunity to support what’s happening.

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If someone is more afraid than the others

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it doesn’t mean that their presence

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in the crowd isn’t valid or useful,
even if they're standing further back.

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For me, I see “success”

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as the capacity for changing,

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in one way or another, the paradigms

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they’ve had during their life.

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Generally speaking, when somebody

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first gets to know anarchist spaces,

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there is a lot of change, lots of conflict

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lots of transformation.

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No one who leaves an anarchist space

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is the same person as when they entered.

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I’ve been lucky enough to get to know

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spaces like that in Peru, in Argentina,

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in Uruguay, in Brazil,

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each with their own particularities,

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with their own story.

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Every country has its own context too.

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I believe that

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one success that you can

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savor within the practices of anarchists

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is the ability to arrive somewhere

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and meet new people and,

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without even knowing them,

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already have a sense of affinity,

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or a little empathy, since there's already

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in one way or another

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certain points in common.

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Then you have the quantity of experiences,

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of knowledge, of tools

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that these spaces are consistently

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sharing with the people who visit

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and live in anarchist spaces.

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I also think you can measure success

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by how well a project is received by the

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rest of the community, in its neighborhood

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whether that's the ghetto, up in the hills

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or downtown—wherever a space may be.

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Lots of times they’re downtown

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in the middle of the chaos.

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Other times they’re on the outskirts,

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or they’re in monstrously huge houses

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that used to belong to the bourgeoisie,

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or here in Chile there are cases

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of spaces that used to be torture centers,

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but in the end they

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become political spaces,

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political meet up spots,

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a place for political resistance.

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I think how a space is perceived

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by the rest of the community

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is important. Generally speaking,

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when a space is opened up,

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when a space pops up,

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there’s a change with the neighbors.

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There’s more connection

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between the people

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who get involved.

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Often, the barriers of difference

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and prejudice are broken.

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People end up finding,

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generally speaking,

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a group of young people,

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usually kind of strange ones,

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just totally escaping normality

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and normativity,

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but when they get to know us and start

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talking about these beautiful ideals

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like many comrades are vegetarians

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and vegans with

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anti-speciesist views,

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or perspectives against patriarchy,

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against every type of violence.

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Whether people pass through,

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whether they enter those spaces or not,

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those ideas catch on,

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or at least that energy.

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You can feel how these ideas are passed on

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and how, one way or another,

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they reach people and get absorbed.

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There are many spaces, organizations,

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collectives, and affinity groups

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that operate under

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libertarian ideas broadly but

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not explicitly as anarchists.

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Nowadays, there are lots of ways to

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identify yourself as anti-authoritarian,

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anti-statist,

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or anarchist.

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So, I believe that libertarian ideas are

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a little more open.

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They tend to have more

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diversity within the same group,

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while I think anarchist organizations

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are a little more concentrated,

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rather than opening themselves up

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to diversity, the way more libertarian

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collectives and communities do.

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It’s hard to define.

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Hard to parse it out, but I think that

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both the individual and collective

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positions of each community is unique.

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Bluntly speaking—the question of hierarchy

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and the organizational form they use.

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Any party-based organization,

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from the most left-leaning

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to the furthest right-wing

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utilizes a hierarchical structure

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in its form of organizing.

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They also form part of the

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political circus, the spectacle

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that people are disenchanted with.

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Whereas the kinds of

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organization anarchists use

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always take an anti-state position.

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They call authority itself into question,

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they criticize it. They won’t submit

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to the will of others

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nor will they impose their own decisions.

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I think that, sometimes,

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for people who don’t know

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much about the difference

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between anarchists, leftists,

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and other tendencies, they just

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But in reality, no, anarchism can’t be

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boxed into those parameters.

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Rather, it’s a political position,

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a philosophy that involves

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political beliefs but,

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more than anything,

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anarchism

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doesn’t use hierarchy

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in its organizational forms.

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Since we’re all so different,

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the positions we take depend on

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each organization, or affinity group,

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or union. Here we also have

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neighborhood assemblies.

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There’s also cordones,

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which simply means a sector of the city,

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but the word is also used in reference to

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geographically-based councils

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that involve local residents,

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shanty-dwellers, and tenants.

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So, mostly, decision-making

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and the forms of organization

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are decided on together, whether that be

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by majority-rule or by consensus.

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Not all of them are totally rejected, and

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there isn’t only one way to organize.

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And there’s always the option to

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leave a group, to start your own,

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if you’re not happy with the

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methods of organizing

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or decision-making.

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It’s in the hands of the collective.

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In my time, through all the different

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collectives & groups I’ve participated in

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but also in other groups I’ve witnessed

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while just passing through places,

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rarely have I ever heard questions like,

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“How can we attract more participants,

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or more comrades?”

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I think there are different positions,

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for example more anti-social ones,

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whose propaganda is more informative than

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trying to attract new participants or

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comrades or convincing anyone of anything.

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So from more anti-social tendencies,

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more insurrectionary tendencies,

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from the most radical tendencies there

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isn’t really much of a call or

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direct invitation for people to join up,

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or to start believing in anarchist ideas.

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But there are comrades whose

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political work is more social,

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more based in people-power,

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who believe in organizing from below

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and neighborhood organizing.

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And I think that the work they do

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is also a kind of propaganda, & what they

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do also has to do with art, with

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artistic expression, with all kinds of

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things that have to do with culture.

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And there’s always the theory side too.

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Which isn’t to say that other kinds of

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tendencies don’t have

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that kind of diversity, just that

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the ends they’re seeking aren’t identical.

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Even despite infighting between

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comrades from more anti-social tendencies

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and tendencies that are

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more about social unity, we've had

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both the possibility and the ability

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to not identify each other as enemies

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despite the fact that

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we find ourselves

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in different trenches.

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So, I believe that the comrades that

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show up in those spaces, those circles,

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those affinity groups and organizations,

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are there not because someone

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sought to convince them of something,

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but rather because

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they felt attracted towards an idea.

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More than being convinced,

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those groups have participants

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because of their own ideas and feelings.

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And other people come through because

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they want to draw, to express themselves,

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for reasons that have to do with art,

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or they have an idea for a project, or

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because they have friends there & they

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find themselves in a political project

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where there’s lots of work to be done

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with the community. I think here in Chile

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we’ve had the chance to experience a

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broad range of anarchist and

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anti-authoritarian practices and tactics.

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For me, strategy is

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deciding on an objective

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and seeking ways

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to achieve that objective,

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thinking about

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how to advance towards it,

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whether that’s individually

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or collectively.

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And depending on

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the ideas that arise,

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we can start thinking of tactics,

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of the ways

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to achieve those goals.

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That’s basically how I see it.

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On the one hand, we visualize, theorize,

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develop our politics, basically thinking

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on what it is we want—what we're seeking.

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On the other hand, we start taking action

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and we see how specifically we can make

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those ideas real. In Chile, we’re lucky—

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well I don’t know if “lucky” is the word,

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but our history is full of conflict, of

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blatant political persecution,

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and of riots.

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So conflicts and objectives

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have always been present.

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The strategies and tactics

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that have been used in general

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have been pretty broad.

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Nowadays we can, for example,

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hold marches, with the goal

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of making visible, like,

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of demonstrating discontent,

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and that we are many.

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Accordingly, the tactics

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in those marches show discontent,

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which is made visible with rioting.

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People raise their voices, shout,

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they can say whatever they want.

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Then there’s blocking the street,

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barricades—different kinds too.

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There’s barricades with fire,

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or with stones,

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there are comrades who help

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and rescue those who are injured.

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I believe all these little roles

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that emerge in the circumstances

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of street conflicts are the tactics

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that are getting adopted.

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It also has a lot to do with the abilities

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that each person may have.

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Nowadays, there’s a lot of talk

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about the primera linea,

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which refers to the comrades

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on the frontline

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taking the brunt of the repression,

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of all the police violence,

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and they try to drive the cops back

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with stones, with molotovs and slingshots,

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with whatever they can,

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even by just shouting at them.

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and at the same time there are people who are

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helping with

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baking soda,

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with milk of magnesium

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to take away the irritability

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from the tear gas bombs

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there are people who are there to

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help by driving their cars

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to mobilize people in groups

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relief teams and rescue teams

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the tactics that are winning these days

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can be inspired by other struggles

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so for example tactics here have

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been inspired by the conflict in Hong Kong

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the idea of using lasers

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and of using water jugs

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to put out tear gas bombs

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all these kinds of tactics are

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lifelong learning the

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constant learning

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to observe also the conflicts that exist

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around the world that also serve

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as inspiration so that we can have

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new experiences new ways of

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attacking, new forms of resistance

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within the territories in conflict.

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When I was about to faint on the verge

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of collapse and someone showed up

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with a little bit of ammonia or

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sometimes it was only water the

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preparation and how it has evolved

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all these forms of resistance is very

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evident

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Throughout history,

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all these groups that generate

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organizational circles

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often get in internal conflicts

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because of the strategies or tactics

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that they use

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and that generally

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in different types of organizations

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they aren't shared by everyone.

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Today, what's happening in Chile is that

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all forms of organization are

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helping out, as long as they don't have a

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party structure, as long as they don't

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have an authoritarian position.

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Today, we are able

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to organize ourselves to

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to help ourselves to add up

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energy between territorial assemblies,

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between affinity groups

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between liberated spaces and squats

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between labor unions

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independent workers

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among professionals and among people

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who live on the streets.

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The experience that is being lived today

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in Chile is very enriching

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in demonstrating this. In

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demonstrating that everyone adds up

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Beyond the capabilities or the

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tools that they may perceive,

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everyone can add to our strength

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to continue the struggle,

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with a clear vision, with a goal,

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with an idea, with a force,

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in the face of capitalist catastrophe,

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In the face of the capitalist devastation,

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it is necessary to have this energy.

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There are those of us,

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There are many people

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who can't stay calm and continue life

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in this "normality,"

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when it is evident that they are

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exterminating our future.

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I believe that the learning or the way

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to continue

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absorbing

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all this knowledge has to do with

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quite a bit of communication,

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oral communication.

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As I was saying, Chile has a

00:24:50.699 --> 00:24:58.559
long history of resistance, of

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political positions, of poor neighborhoods

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in the struggle. So, obviously today for

00:25:03.059 --> 00:25:09.299
new generations of radicals, anarchists,

00:25:05.899 --> 00:25:14.009
or more subversive people,

00:25:09.299 --> 00:25:16.710
it's inevitable that things are learned

00:25:14.009 --> 00:25:19.049
from the past. For example, this it has to do with the

00:25:16.710 --> 00:25:23.159
student protests, blocking traffic,

00:25:19.049 --> 00:25:24.840
building barricades, sharing pamphlets.

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These are internationally used

00:25:24.840 --> 00:25:28.970
resistance and street fighting practices.

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And here,

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it is possible if you want

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to go know to make barricades.

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you can go

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on certain dates to the universities

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and you don't need to ask any questions,

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just observe.

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Many,

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many anarchist comrades from these

00:25:53.970 --> 00:25:58.440
territories

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are close to

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formerly politically persecuted people.

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I've known my fellow men and women

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who are family members, who are nephews,

00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.860
who are grandchildren, who are children of

00:26:08.820 --> 00:26:13.019
politically persecuted, tortured and

00:26:10.860 --> 00:26:14.159
disappeared people,

00:26:13.019 --> 00:26:16.280
who now identify as

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anarchists.

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These experiences and knowledge

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that only these people have, have been

00:26:20.780 --> 00:26:27.020
and are being transmitted through films,

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through conversations,

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through documentaries.

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The ways to learn

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about this

00:26:34.380 --> 00:26:37.059
and

00:26:35.560 --> 00:26:41.200
to express that knowledge

00:26:37.059 --> 00:26:44.049
to expand that knowledge

00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:46.740
are always

00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:46.740
very diverse

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Communication, I think, is

00:26:49.910 --> 00:26:55.660
basically one of the main ways.

00:26:52.540 --> 00:26:58.490
To have the confidence to find

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groups of people to who

00:26:58.490 --> 00:27:02.920
you can ask about

00:27:03.990 --> 00:27:11.250
how they worked and also to identify

00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:13.940
and learn from the mistakes made by

00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:15.900
groups, subversive groups for example.

00:27:13.940 --> 00:27:18.980
Also, in these

00:27:15.900 --> 00:27:21.320
territories we are fortunate that

00:27:18.980 --> 00:27:23.700
many, many of us have

00:27:21.320 --> 00:27:25.710
Mapuche ancestry. Also, it

00:27:23.700 --> 00:27:28.410
is history that is important to

00:27:25.710 --> 00:27:30.150
rescue and that obviously none of

00:27:28.410 --> 00:27:32.320
us forget. We always have that

00:27:30.150 --> 00:27:34.870
present.

00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:38.549
We also have that duality or that

00:27:34.870 --> 00:27:41.320
ability to position ourselves politically

00:27:38.549 --> 00:27:42.940
like this from the point of view of

00:27:41.320 --> 00:27:45.730
anarchists-but at the same time not

00:27:42.940 --> 00:27:47.230
forgetting that we have our own

00:27:45.730 --> 00:27:49.179
history. That, we have our own

00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:52.120
individuality. That, we are from this

00:27:49.179 --> 00:27:54.940
territory. That, we come from a

00:27:52.120 --> 00:27:56.919
colonized territory. That, our

00:27:54.940 --> 00:27:59.830
history and our practices and our

00:27:56.919 --> 00:28:01.779
visions of anarchism

00:27:59.830 --> 00:28:04.169
aren't going to be it 100% the same as the

00:28:01.779 --> 00:28:08.669
fellow anarchists who are from

00:28:04.169 --> 00:28:10.169
Palestine, Rojava, or Europe, or

00:28:08.669 --> 00:28:12.889
from other parts of

00:28:10.169 --> 00:28:12.889
Latin America.

00:28:14.380 --> 00:28:19.309
I also believe that

00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:22.490
we have

00:28:19.309 --> 00:28:24.169
the capacity to find fun ways

00:28:22.490 --> 00:28:27.700
to be able to

00:28:24.169 --> 00:28:30.070
travel to meet each other.

00:28:27.700 --> 00:28:32.019
To find groups, in which one

00:28:30.070 --> 00:28:34.799
can arrive and feel comfortable to

00:28:32.019 --> 00:28:34.799
to be able to learn with.

00:28:44.850 --> 00:28:50.920
Part of what is happening now

00:28:48.070 --> 00:28:54.070
you can see in one of the new slogans

00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:57.720
used since the start of this new conflict

00:28:54.070 --> 00:28:57.720
that, "It's not 30 pesos, it's 30 years."

00:28:57.860 --> 00:29:03.110
We've been in this fake democracy

00:29:00.350 --> 00:29:04.400
for 30 years.

00:29:03.110 --> 00:29:06.220
It's like other democracies

00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.710
world-wide.

00:29:06.220 --> 00:29:10.809
I was lucky enough

00:29:08.710 --> 00:29:12.790
to be part of a committee

00:29:10.809 --> 00:29:15.190
for the student "penguin revolution "

00:29:12.790 --> 00:29:17.550
mobilizations of 2006, when I was

00:29:15.190 --> 00:29:17.550
a senior in high school.

00:29:19.190 --> 00:29:26.440
In what ways have I seen that

00:29:23.090 --> 00:29:26.440
that movement helped in the long term?

00:29:27.049 --> 00:29:31.700
It's evident to anyone who is

00:29:29.570 --> 00:29:34.850
in the street protests here now that

00:29:31.700 --> 00:29:37.159
consciously open their eyes a little

00:29:34.850 --> 00:29:38.919
and who wants to sense what's

00:29:37.159 --> 00:29:41.090
going on around them, that many

00:29:38.919 --> 00:29:43.340
of the people in the street protests,

00:29:41.090 --> 00:29:46.240
much of the age range

00:29:43.340 --> 00:29:49.179
that you see on the street

00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:50.650
are people in our thirties,

00:29:49.179 --> 00:29:52.360
thirty-somethings who were

00:29:50.650 --> 00:29:54.790
in school at that time and that were

00:29:52.360 --> 00:29:57.370
part of the "penguin revolution."

00:29:54.790 --> 00:29:59.679
Today, some are professionals who

00:29:57.370 --> 00:30:02.980
are in debt, living with the

00:29:59.679 --> 00:30:07.190
consequences of how this

00:30:02.980 --> 00:30:09.110
neoliberal education system works.

00:30:07.190 --> 00:30:13.020
And, many others are not professionals.

00:30:09.110 --> 00:30:15.990
Many others weren't interested.

00:30:13.020 --> 00:30:20.330
Or, they weren't able to go to university.

00:30:15.990 --> 00:30:23.780
They weren't able to get onto

00:30:20.330 --> 00:30:23.780
this production line-

00:30:23.870 --> 00:30:30.140
this social production line.

00:30:27.620 --> 00:30:31.520
At the same time, others who

00:30:30.140 --> 00:30:32.900
also suffer from the

00:30:31.520 --> 00:30:34.759
consequences of this capitalist system

00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:40.399
and who have followed the students'

00:30:37.909 --> 00:30:42.259
example today have knowledge

00:30:40.399 --> 00:30:47.209
- know how the mobilizations of 2006

00:30:42.259 --> 00:30:49.090
- know that promises were made that

00:30:47.209 --> 00:30:51.790
were never fulfilled.

00:30:49.090 --> 00:30:55.570
As a result, 2011 also saw

00:30:51.790 --> 00:30:59.330
an explosion from the students.

00:30:55.570 --> 00:31:03.380
Because nothing had changed.

00:30:59.330 --> 00:31:05.000
Today, more than 10 years later,

00:31:03.380 --> 00:31:07.390
the same claims continue to be made

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.390
and the same objectives

00:31:08.620 --> 00:31:12.660
are still being sought.

00:31:13.059 --> 00:31:20.110
And beyond having not learned,

00:31:16.539 --> 00:31:21.940
I don't think knowledge is there.

00:31:20.110 --> 00:31:24.519
For example, in the streets

00:31:21.940 --> 00:31:29.039
you see all these people that at some

00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:29.039
point were also facing

00:31:29.330 --> 00:31:35.030
from their schools from the shots

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:37.650
the protests that have taken place in the

00:31:35.030 --> 00:31:40.290
were doing on the street

00:31:37.650 --> 00:31:44.190
yes at least I can also observe

00:31:40.290 --> 00:31:48.210
that a great has been a great a great

00:31:44.190 --> 00:31:51.870
age range so younger so more

00:31:48.210 --> 00:31:54.750
adolescents do not have as much as the

00:31:51.870 --> 00:31:56.580
experience or knowledge of what

00:31:54.750 --> 00:31:57.900
are in manifestations of what there is

00:31:56.580 --> 00:32:00.020
in which to confront the repression

00:31:57.900 --> 00:32:02.540
from the police

00:32:00.020 --> 00:32:04.150
there's quite a bit of innocence to be had as well.

00:32:02.540 --> 00:32:07.860
medium

00:32:04.150 --> 00:32:07.860
but today we're already

00:32:08.690 --> 00:32:15.740
several months of conflict already then

00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:17.810
many of the knowledge that is not

00:32:15.740 --> 00:32:19.640
attended until the beginning of this

00:32:17.810 --> 00:32:22.190
conflict and I think that in the latter

00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:24.470
weeks now

00:32:22.190 --> 00:32:26.840
it's much more common to meet people

00:32:24.470 --> 00:32:29.539
who is already more or less clear about what

00:32:26.840 --> 00:32:32.890
how to protect yourself how to take care of yourself

00:32:29.539 --> 00:32:35.549
how to take care of colleagues

00:32:32.890 --> 00:32:38.389
I believe that

00:32:35.549 --> 00:32:42.720
I don't know if I could set such an example

00:32:38.389 --> 00:32:46.769
so much of how the

00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:49.019
experience of us who were in

00:32:46.769 --> 00:32:50.639
the penguin revolution of the comrades

00:32:49.019 --> 00:32:53.489
who were later in the

00:32:50.639 --> 00:32:55.249
mobilizations of 2011 but I do think that

00:32:53.489 --> 00:32:57.869
when you're on the street than when

00:32:55.249 --> 00:33:02.389
you look around and you find

00:32:57.869 --> 00:33:06.299
people who are just starting out that

00:33:02.389 --> 00:33:10.409
don't know and they join people who already

00:33:06.299 --> 00:33:12.169
have been a rhythm like that much longer

00:33:10.409 --> 00:33:15.730
advanced

00:33:12.169 --> 00:33:15.730
I think that's where

00:33:15.850 --> 00:33:20.420
it's clear that maybe it goes beyond

00:33:18.890 --> 00:33:23.920
of words but gives directly

00:33:20.420 --> 00:33:23.920
embodied in the

00:33:36.100 --> 00:33:43.700
I would invite the Gauls and the

00:33:39.580 --> 00:33:49.740
fellow anarchists

00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:52.880
that we have the possibility of

00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:55.110
to be able to organize ourselves to be able to have

00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.860
positioning and policies from a

00:33:55.110 --> 00:34:00.650
skill intersection

00:33:57.860 --> 00:34:02.780
we have the I can get lucky today in

00:34:00.650 --> 00:34:06.549
day on the basis of the conflict that is being

00:34:02.780 --> 00:34:06.549
living our territories in what

00:34:08.889 --> 00:34:15.950
I've always watched and seen a lot here in the

00:34:12.710 --> 00:34:19.590
anarchist circles that were closing in

00:34:15.950 --> 00:34:21.540
a lot of affinity group theories

00:34:19.590 --> 00:34:23.760
which more or less everyone was chasing

00:34:21.540 --> 00:34:28.670
and they all had more or less goals

00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:28.670
very similar ideas and practices

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anarchism at every level to the most

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social is actually under a ghetto

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then I guess my advice is that

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open up to the possibility of opening

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to open up these ghettos to the

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possibility of being able to organize with

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people who may not

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necessarily were artists

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that those who embrace and ideas

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anti-speciesist to embrace ideas

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anti-patriarchal

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to embrace ideas and spirituals that

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let's rescue a little bit of the ancestry

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lost that these centuries of colonization

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western european white hetero

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patriarchal has imposed on us has

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snatched

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is that as opening up the possibilities

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of believing in other hobbies than being

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open up the spirit and

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reconnecting with diversity

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I think what's happening today

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a lot of people joined in because of that for looking

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to the side and see people so

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different with such different ideas

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with tools with knowledge so

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different but at the same time looking for

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the same dreaming the same fighting for

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the same

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finding themselves having the same

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tactics the same practices

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roughly that as

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not to fall so much into grandchildren where

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think is all the same if not all the

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contrary to opening ourselves up to the possibility of

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relate to multiple forms of

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think