[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Kalcu. I'll introduce myself as Kalcu. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.41,0:00:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I live in an anti-authoritarian library Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.05,0:00:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere in Valparaíso Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.07,0:00:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the work Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.53,0:00:38.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i do is Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.15,0:00:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I specifically deal with Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.34,0:00:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actions that Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.88,0:00:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to do with creating propaganda Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.87,0:00:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from this space Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.04,0:00:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for context, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.83,0:00:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the library space is over 15 years old Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.52,0:00:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 15 years, the people who live Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.62,0:01:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the library Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.90,0:01:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have generated activities Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.40,0:01:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.36,0:01:12.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a political meeting place for liberatory Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.43,0:01:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collectives, individuals, and Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.07,0:01:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizations Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.83,0:01:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in the region of Valparaíso Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.14,0:01:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,. . . Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.42,0:01:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the first thing is to find a Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.57,0:01:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,group of people, a community, or a Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.33,0:01:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,union, or Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.35,0:01:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or beings that are in your environment Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.36,0:01:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have any conflicts in common Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.68,0:01:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and based on that conflict Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.54,0:01:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to agree to organize Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.95,0:01:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among people to achieve an objective Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.50,0:01:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that organizing Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.50,0:02:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has to do with the ability Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.51,0:02:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people. That ability that Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.08,0:02:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone can contribute every Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.99,0:02:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one with his or her own knowledge Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.64,0:02:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,add up Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.17,0:02:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and different visions and Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.39,0:02:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different postures, different tools that Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.79,0:02:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each individual each Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.80,0:02:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person has then I believe Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.04,0:02:29.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that organizing is Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.84,0:02:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is important in the sense that Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.45,0:02:35.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizing can add up Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.61,0:02:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a multiplicity of ideas easily Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.09,0:02:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wealth of knowledge to Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.22,0:02:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reach an objective. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.80,0:02:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it is necessary Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.26,0:02:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to run, to get water Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.62,0:02:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to begin to bring rocks Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.73,0:02:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from such support on the streets Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.93,0:03:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's been very evident lately Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.81,0:03:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are all important ways to help Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.18,0:03:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each part of the street culture's Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.99,0:03:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social fabric in the chaos like this. Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.17,0:03:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without the person who has baking soda, Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.31,0:03:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a lemon, or an ammonia, sometimes Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.07,0:03:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who are out there facing repression Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.80,0:03:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couldn't be there Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.46,0:03:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or wouldn't even be able to move. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.13,0:03:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or be able to get through the day Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.82,0:03:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the same energy Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.48,0:03:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who bring food that also Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.39,0:03:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.32,0:03:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all those kinds of organizing Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.34,0:03:49.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find it interesting that Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.11,0:03:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much of this is spontaneous Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.81,0:03:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd make a point Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.22,0:03:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a symbiosis and a cooperation Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.65,0:04:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among the people who happen Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.62,0:04:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be there at that minute, Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.35,0:04:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without any kind of organization \Nor planning beforehand. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.77,0:04:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, there are people who get fed Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.11,0:04:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but without necessarily knowing Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.20,0:04:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that other people are going to bring food. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.71,0:04:23.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think one of the most interesting things Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.81,0:04:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been these new possibilities, Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.33,0:04:29.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these new visions Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.57,0:04:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of spontaneous organization Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.27,0:04:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where each person present has the Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.64,0:04:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opportunity to support what’s happening. Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.62,0:04:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If someone is more afraid than the others Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.44,0:04:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn’t mean that their presence Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.14,0:04:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the crowd isn’t valid or useful,\Neven if they're standing further back. Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.88,0:04:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, I see “success” Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.88,0:05:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the capacity for changing, Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.81,0:05:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in one way or another, the paradigms Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.48,0:05:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they’ve had during their life. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.61,0:05:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Generally speaking, when somebody Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.85,0:05:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first gets to know anarchist spaces, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.29,0:05:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a lot of change, lots of conflict Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.90,0:05:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of transformation. Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.21,0:05:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one who leaves an anarchist space Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.69,0:05:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the same person as when they entered. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.72,0:05:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’ve been lucky enough to get to know Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.12,0:05:31.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spaces like that in Peru, in Argentina, Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.43,0:05:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Uruguay, in Brazil, Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.85,0:05:38.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each with their own particularities, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.55,0:05:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with their own story. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.09,0:05:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every country has its own context too. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.82,0:05:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.09,0:05:48.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one success that you can Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.43,0:05:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music] Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.00,0:05:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,savor within the practices of anarchists Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.87,0:05:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the ability to arrive somewhere Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.66,0:06:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and meet new people and, Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.06,0:06:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without even knowing them, Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.61,0:06:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already have a sense of affinity, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.05,0:06:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a little empathy, since there's already Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.30,0:06:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in one way or another Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.64,0:06:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain points in common. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.34,0:06:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you have the quantity of experiences, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.56,0:06:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of knowledge, of tools Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.26,0:06:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these spaces are consistently Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.89,0:06:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sharing with the people who visit Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.12,0:06:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and live in anarchist spaces. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.23,0:06:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also think you can measure success Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.47,0:06:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by how well a project is received by the Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.07,0:06:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rest of the community, in its neighborhood Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.47,0:06:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether that's the ghetto, up in the hills Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.86,0:06:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music] Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.54,0:06:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or downtown—wherever a space may be. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.55,0:06:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lots of times they’re downtown Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.34,0:06:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the middle of the chaos. Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.89,0:06:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other times they’re on the outskirts, Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.96,0:07:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they’re in monstrously huge houses Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.75,0:07:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that used to belong to the bourgeoisie, Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.95,0:07:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or here in Chile there are cases Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.56,0:07:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of spaces that used to be torture centers, Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.29,0:07:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the end they Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.30,0:07:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become political spaces, Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.67,0:07:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political meet up spots, Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.32,0:07:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a place for political resistance. Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.24,0:07:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think how a space is perceived Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.67,0:07:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the rest of the community Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.38,0:07:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is important. Generally speaking, Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.33,0:07:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a space is opened up, Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.97,0:07:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a space pops up, Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.04,0:07:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there’s a change with the neighbors. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.85,0:07:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s more connection Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.82,0:07:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the people Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.21,0:07:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who get involved. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.54,0:07:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often, the barriers of difference Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.41,0:07:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and prejudice are broken. Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.78,0:07:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People end up finding, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.50,0:07:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generally speaking, Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.56,0:08:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a group of young people, Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.86,0:08:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usually kind of strange ones, Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.93,0:08:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just totally escaping normality Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.50,0:08:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and normativity, Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.59,0:08:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when they get to know us and start Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.04,0:08:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about these beautiful ideals Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.45,0:08:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like many comrades are vegetarians Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.68,0:08:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and vegans with Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.56,0:08:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anti-speciesist views, Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.26,0:08:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or perspectives against patriarchy, Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.69,0:08:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against every type of violence. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.88,0:08:41.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether people pass through, Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.92,0:08:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether they enter those spaces or not, Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.81,0:08:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those ideas catch on, Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.58,0:08:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or at least that energy. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.01,0:08:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can feel how these ideas are passed on Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.94,0:08:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how, one way or another, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.83,0:08:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they reach people and get absorbed. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.41,0:09:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many spaces, organizations, Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.12,0:09:13.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collectives, and affinity groups Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.49,0:09:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that operate under Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.98,0:09:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,libertarian ideas broadly but Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.70,0:09:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not explicitly as anarchists. Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.66,0:09:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nowadays, there are lots of ways to Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.39,0:09:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,identify yourself as anti-authoritarian, Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.48,0:09:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anti-statist, Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.51,0:09:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or anarchist. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.33,0:09:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I believe that libertarian ideas are Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.58,0:09:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little more open. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.38,0:09:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They tend to have more Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.69,0:09:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diversity within the same group, Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.71,0:09:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while I think anarchist organizations Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.23,0:09:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are a little more concentrated, Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.77,0:10:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than opening themselves up Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.92,0:10:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to diversity, the way more libertarian Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.65,0:10:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collectives and communities do. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.42,0:10:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s hard to define. Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.14,0:10:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hard to parse it out, but I think that Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.55,0:10:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both the individual and collective Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.32,0:10:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positions of each community is unique. Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.26,0:10:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bluntly speaking—the question of hierarchy Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.67,0:10:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the organizational form they use. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.07,0:10:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any party-based organization, Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.59,0:10:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the most left-leaning Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.82,0:10:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the furthest right-wing Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.25,0:10:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,utilizes a hierarchical structure Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.00,0:10:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in its form of organizing. Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.79,0:10:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They also form part of the Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.06,0:10:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political circus, the spectacle Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.53,0:11:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people are disenchanted with. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.79,0:11:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas the kinds of Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.18,0:11:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organization anarchists use Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.31,0:11:16.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always take an anti-state position. Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.58,0:11:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They call authority itself into question, Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.25,0:11:23.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they criticize it. They won’t submit Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.08,0:11:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the will of others Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.33,0:11:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor will they impose their own decisions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.13,0:11:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that, sometimes, Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.10,0:11:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people who don’t know Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.82,0:11:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much about the difference Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.19,0:11:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between anarchists, leftists, Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.86,0:11:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other tendencies, they just Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.02,0:11:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in reality, no, anarchism can’t be Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.93,0:11:49.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boxed into those parameters. Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.53,0:11:51.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather, it’s a political position, Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.69,0:11:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a philosophy that involves Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.73,0:11:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political beliefs but, Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.67,0:11:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than anything, Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.88,0:12:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anarchism Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.32,0:12:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn’t use hierarchy Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.71,0:12:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in its organizational forms. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.36,0:12:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since we’re all so different, Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.53,0:12:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the positions we take depend on Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.59,0:12:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each organization, or affinity group, Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.34,0:12:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or union. Here we also have Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.46,0:12:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neighborhood assemblies. Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.48,0:12:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s also cordones, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.73,0:12:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which simply means a sector of the city, Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.27,0:12:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the word is also used in reference to Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.03,0:12:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,geographically-based councils Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.21,0:12:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that involve local residents, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.35,0:12:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shanty-dwellers, and tenants. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.71,0:12:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, mostly, decision-making Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.03,0:12:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the forms of organization Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.46,0:12:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are decided on together, whether that be Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.85,0:12:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by majority-rule or by consensus. Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.05,0:13:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not all of them are totally rejected, and Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.52,0:13:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there isn’t only one way to organize. Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.99,0:13:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there’s always the option to Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.69,0:13:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave a group, to start your own, Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.48,0:13:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you’re not happy with the Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.30,0:13:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,methods of organizing Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.98,0:13:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or decision-making. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.40,0:13:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s in the hands of the collective. Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.26,0:13:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my time, through all the different Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.73,0:13:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collectives & groups I’ve participated in Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.44,0:13:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also in other groups I’ve witnessed Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.63,0:13:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while just passing through places, Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.40,0:13:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rarely have I ever heard questions like, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.72,0:13:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“How can we attract more participants, Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.19,0:13:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or more comrades?” Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.21,0:13:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there are different positions, Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.83,0:13:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example more anti-social ones, Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.47,0:14:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose propaganda is more informative than Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.81,0:14:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to attract new participants or Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.38,0:14:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comrades or convincing anyone of anything. Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.11,0:14:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So from more anti-social tendencies, Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.92,0:14:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more insurrectionary tendencies, Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.60,0:14:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the most radical tendencies there Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.23,0:14:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn’t really much of a call or Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.81,0:14:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,direct invitation for people to join up, Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.67,0:14:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to start believing in anarchist ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.18,0:14:36.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are comrades whose Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.52,0:14:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political work is more social, Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.34,0:14:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more based in people-power, Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.44,0:14:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who believe in organizing from below Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.50,0:14:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and neighborhood organizing. Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.64,0:14:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that the work they do Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.16,0:14:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is also a kind of propaganda, & what they Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.97,0:14:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do also has to do with art, with Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.12,0:14:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,artistic expression, with all kinds of Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.26,0:15:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that have to do with culture. Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.19,0:15:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there’s always the theory side too. Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.45,0:15:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which isn’t to say that other kinds of Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.36,0:15:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tendencies don’t have Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.83,0:15:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that kind of diversity, just that Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.23,0:15:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ends they’re seeking aren’t identical. Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.34,0:15:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even despite infighting between Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.83,0:15:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comrades from more anti-social tendencies Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.84,0:15:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tendencies that are Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.06,0:15:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more about social unity, we've had Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.17,0:15:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both the possibility and the ability Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.38,0:15:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to not identify each other as enemies Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.28,0:15:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despite the fact that Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.37,0:15:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we find ourselves Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.56,0:15:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different trenches. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.65,0:15:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I believe that the comrades that Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.44,0:15:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show up in those spaces, those circles, Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.70,0:15:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those affinity groups and organizations, Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.97,0:15:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are there not because someone Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.85,0:15:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sought to convince them of something, Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.40,0:16:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather because Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.04,0:16:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they felt attracted towards an idea. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.17,0:16:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More than being convinced, Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.07,0:16:09.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those groups have participants Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.84,0:16:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of their own ideas and feelings. Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.63,0:16:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And other people come through because Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.66,0:16:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want to draw, to express themselves, Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.31,0:16:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for reasons that have to do with art, Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.32,0:16:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they have an idea for a project, or Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.33,0:16:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they have friends there & they Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.37,0:16:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find themselves in a political project Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.96,0:16:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there’s lots of work to be done Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.53,0:16:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the community. I think here in Chile Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.05,0:16:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we’ve had the chance to experience a Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.23,0:16:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,broad range of anarchist and Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.12,0:16:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anti-authoritarian practices and tactics. Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.14,0:17:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, strategy is Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.97,0:17:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deciding on an objective Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.21,0:17:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and seeking ways Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.48,0:17:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to achieve that objective, Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.21,0:17:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking about Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.74,0:17:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to advance towards it, Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.57,0:17:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether that’s individually Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.31,0:17:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or collectively. Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.08,0:17:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And depending on Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.90,0:17:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ideas that arise, Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.89,0:17:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can start thinking of tactics, Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.35,0:17:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the ways Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.96,0:17:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to achieve those goals. Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.42,0:17:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s basically how I see it. Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.77,0:17:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the one hand, we visualize, theorize, Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.12,0:17:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,develop our politics, basically thinking Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.44,0:17:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on what it is we want—what we're seeking. Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.83,0:17:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand, we start taking action Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.88,0:17:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we see how specifically we can make Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.59,0:17:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those ideas real. In Chile, we’re lucky— Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.44,0:17:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well I don’t know if “lucky” is the word, Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.25,0:18:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but our history is full of conflict, of Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.84,0:18:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blatant political persecution, Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.39,0:18:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of riots. Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.15,0:18:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So conflicts and objectives Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.05,0:18:13.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have always been present. Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.33,0:18:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The strategies and tactics Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.82,0:18:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have been used in general Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.66,0:18:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been pretty broad. Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.62,0:18:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nowadays we can, for example, Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.44,0:18:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hold marches, with the goal Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.83,0:18:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of making visible, like, Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.51,0:18:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of demonstrating discontent, Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.74,0:18:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that we are many. Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.74,0:18:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Accordingly, the tactics Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.92,0:18:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in those marches show discontent, Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.32,0:18:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is made visible with rioting. Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.31,0:18:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People raise their voices, shout, Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.40,0:18:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can say whatever they want. Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.78,0:19:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there’s blocking the street, Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.77,0:19:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,barricades—different kinds too. Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.01,0:19:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s barricades with fire, Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.90,0:19:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or with stones, Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.85,0:19:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are comrades who help Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.78,0:19:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and rescue those who are injured. Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.95,0:19:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe all these little roles Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.16,0:19:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that emerge in the circumstances Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.72,0:19:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of street conflicts are the tactics Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.55,0:19:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are getting adopted. Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.97,0:19:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It also has a lot to do with the abilities Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.20,0:19:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that each person may have. Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.39,0:19:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nowadays, there’s a lot of talk Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.49,0:19:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the primera linea, Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.78,0:19:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which refers to the comrades Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.64,0:19:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the frontline Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.28,0:19:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking the brunt of the repression, Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.80,0:19:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all the police violence, Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.22,0:19:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they try to drive the cops back Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.34,0:19:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with stones, with molotovs and slingshots, Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.40,0:20:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with whatever they can, Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.76,0:20:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even by just shouting at them. Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.14,0:20:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at the same time there are people who are Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.84,0:20:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helping with Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.76,0:20:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,baking soda, Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.62,0:20:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with milk of magnesium Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.33,0:20:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take away the irritability Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.92,0:20:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the tear gas bombs Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.63,0:20:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are people who are there to Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.14,0:20:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help by driving their cars Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.75,0:20:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mobilize people in groups Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.88,0:20:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relief teams and rescue teams Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.62,0:20:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tactics that are winning these days Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.90,0:20:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be inspired by other struggles Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.18,0:20:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so for example tactics here have Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.77,0:20:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been inspired by the conflict in Hong Kong Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.52,0:20:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea of using lasers Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.22,0:20:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of using water jugs Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.34,0:20:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to put out tear gas bombs Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.92,0:20:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these kinds of tactics are Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.92,0:20:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lifelong learning the Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.36,0:20:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constant learning Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.83,0:21:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to observe also the conflicts that exist Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.17,0:21:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the world that also serve Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.36,0:21:07.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as inspiration so that we can have Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.83,0:21:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new experiences new ways of Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.53,0:21:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attacking, new forms of resistance Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.90,0:21:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the territories in conflict. Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.33,0:21:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was about to faint on the verge Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.52,0:21:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of collapse and someone showed up Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.40,0:21:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a little bit of ammonia or Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.70,0:21:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes it was only water the Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.70,0:21:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preparation and how it has evolved Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.53,0:21:35.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these forms of resistance is very Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.36,0:21:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evident Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.27,0:21:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.34,0:21:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Throughout history, Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.47,0:21:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these groups that generate Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.68,0:22:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizational circles Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.81,0:22:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often get in internal conflicts Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.92,0:22:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the strategies or tactics Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.54,0:22:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they use Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.11,0:22:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that generally Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.36,0:22:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different types of organizations Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.99,0:22:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they aren't shared by everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.08,0:22:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, what's happening in Chile is that Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.44,0:22:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all forms of organization are Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.77,0:22:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helping out, as long as they don't have a Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.65,0:22:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,party structure, as long as they don't Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.93,0:22:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have an authoritarian position. Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.49,0:22:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, we are able Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.66,0:22:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to organize ourselves to Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.88,0:22:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help ourselves to add up Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.27,0:22:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,energy between territorial assemblies, Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.72,0:22:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between affinity groups Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.75,0:22:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between liberated spaces and squats Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.67,0:22:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between labor unions Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.50,0:22:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,independent workers Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.47,0:23:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among professionals and among people Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.09,0:23:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who live on the streets. Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.82,0:23:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The experience that is being lived today Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.28,0:23:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Chile is very enriching Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.20,0:23:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in demonstrating this. In Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.50,0:23:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonstrating that everyone adds up Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.33,0:23:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beyond the capabilities or the Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.65,0:23:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tools that they may perceive, Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.50,0:23:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone can add to our strength Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.94,0:23:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to continue the struggle, Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.82,0:23:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a clear vision, with a goal, Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.86,0:23:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with an idea, with a force, Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.98,0:23:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the face of capitalist catastrophe, Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.24,0:23:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the face of the capitalist devastation, Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.62,0:23:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is necessary to have this energy. Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.53,0:23:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are those of us, Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.29,0:23:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many people Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.30,0:23:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who can't stay calm and continue life Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.86,0:23:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this "normality," Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.17,0:23:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it is evident that they are Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.98,0:23:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exterminating our future. Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.48,0:24:35.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that the learning or the way Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.72,0:24:35.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to continue Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.51,0:24:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absorbing Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.14,0:24:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all this knowledge has to do with Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.31,0:24:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite a bit of communication, Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.03,0:24:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oral communication. Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.88,0:24:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I was saying, Chile has a Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.70,0:24:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long history of resistance, of Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.01,0:25:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political positions, of poor neighborhoods Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.56,0:25:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the struggle. So, obviously today for Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.06,0:25:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new generations of radicals, anarchists, Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.90,0:25:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or more subversive people, Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.30,0:25:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's inevitable that things are learned Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.01,0:25:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the past. For example, this it has to do with the Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.71,0:25:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,student protests, blocking traffic, Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.05,0:25:24.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,building barricades, sharing pamphlets. Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.16,0:25:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are internationally used Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.84,0:25:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance and street fighting practices. Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.03,0:25:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here, Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.97,0:25:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is possible if you want Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.19,0:25:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go know to make barricades. Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.49,0:25:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can go Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.06,0:25:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on certain dates to the universities Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.85,0:25:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you don't need to ask any questions, Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.79,0:25:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just observe. Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.39,0:25:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many, Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.18,0:25:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many anarchist comrades from these Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.97,0:25:58.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,territories Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.41,0:26:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are close to Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.44,0:26:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,formerly politically persecuted people. Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.27,0:26:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've known my fellow men and women Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.10,0:26:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are family members, who are nephews, Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.72,0:26:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are grandchildren, who are children of Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.82,0:26:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politically persecuted, tortured and Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.86,0:26:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappeared people, Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.02,0:26:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who now identify as Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.16,0:26:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anarchists. Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.28,0:26:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These experiences and knowledge Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.59,0:26:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that only these people have, have been Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.78,0:26:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and are being transmitted through films, Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.92,0:26:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through conversations, Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.02,0:26:32.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through documentaries. Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.33,0:26:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ways to learn Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.01,0:26:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.38,0:26:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.56,0:26:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to express that knowledge Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.06,0:26:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to expand that knowledge Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.20,0:26:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are always Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.05,0:26:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very diverse Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.42,0:26:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Communication, I think, is Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.91,0:26:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically one of the main ways. Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.54,0:26:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To have the confidence to find Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.66,0:27:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,groups of people to who Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.49,0:27:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can ask about Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.99,0:27:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how they worked and also to identify Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.56,0:27:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and learn from the mistakes made by Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.25,0:27:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,groups, subversive groups for example. Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.94,0:27:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, in these Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.90,0:27:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,territories we are fortunate that Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.98,0:27:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many, many of us have Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.32,0:27:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mapuche ancestry. Also, it Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.70,0:27:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is history that is important to Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.71,0:27:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rescue and that obviously none of Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.41,0:27:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us forget. We always have that Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.15,0:27:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,present. Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.32,0:27:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also have that duality or that Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.87,0:27:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ability to position ourselves politically Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.55,0:27:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like this from the point of view of Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.32,0:27:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anarchists-but at the same time not Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.94,0:27:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forgetting that we have our own Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.73,0:27:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,history. That, we have our own Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.23,0:27:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,individuality. That, we are from this Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.18,0:27:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,territory. That, we come from a Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.12,0:27:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,colonized territory. That, our Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.94,0:27:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,history and our practices and our Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.92,0:28:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visions of anarchism Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.83,0:28:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aren't going to be it 100% the same as the Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.78,0:28:08.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fellow anarchists who are from Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.17,0:28:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palestine, Rojava, or Europe, or Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.67,0:28:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from other parts of Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.17,0:28:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Latin America. Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.38,0:28:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also believe that Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.92,0:28:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.31,0:28:24.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the capacity to find fun ways Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.49,0:28:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.17,0:28:30.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,travel to meet each other. Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.70,0:28:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To find groups, in which one Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.07,0:28:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can arrive and feel comfortable to Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.02,0:28:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to learn with. Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.85,0:28:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of what is happening now Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.07,0:28:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can see in one of the new slogans Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.92,0:28:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,used since the start of this new conflict Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.07,0:28:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, "It's not 30 pesos, it's 30 years." Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.86,0:29:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been in this fake democracy Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.35,0:29:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 30 years. Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.11,0:29:06.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like other democracies Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.40,0:29:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world-wide. Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.22,0:29:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was lucky enough Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.71,0:29:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be part of a committee Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.81,0:29:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the student "penguin revolution " Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.79,0:29:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mobilizations of 2006, when I was Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.19,0:29:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a senior in high school. Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.19,0:29:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In what ways have I seen that Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.09,0:29:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that movement helped in the long term? Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.05,0:29:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's evident to anyone who is Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.57,0:29:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the street protests here now that Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.70,0:29:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consciously open their eyes a little Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.85,0:29:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who wants to sense what's Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.16,0:29:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going on around them, that many Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.92,0:29:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the people in the street protests, Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.09,0:29:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much of the age range Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.34,0:29:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you see on the street Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.24,0:29:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are people in our thirties, Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.18,0:29:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thirty-somethings who were Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.65,0:29:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in school at that time and that were Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.36,0:29:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of the "penguin revolution." Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.79,0:29:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, some are professionals who Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.37,0:30:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are in debt, living with the Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.68,0:30:07.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consequences of how this Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.98,0:30:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neoliberal education system works. Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.19,0:30:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, many others are not professionals. Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.11,0:30:15.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many others weren't interested. Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.02,0:30:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, they weren't able to go to university. Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.99,0:30:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They weren't able to get onto Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.33,0:30:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this production line- Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.87,0:30:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this social production line. Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.62,0:30:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time, others who Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.14,0:30:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also suffer from the Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.52,0:30:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consequences of this capitalist system Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.76,0:30:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who have followed the students' Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.91,0:30:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example today have knowledge Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.40,0:30:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- know how the mobilizations of 2006 Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.26,0:30:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- know that promises were made that Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.21,0:30:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were never fulfilled. Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.09,0:30:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a result, 2011 also saw Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.79,0:30:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an explosion from the students. Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.57,0:31:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because nothing had changed. Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.33,0:31:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, more than 10 years later, Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.38,0:31:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same claims continue to be made Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.00,0:31:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the same objectives Dialogue: 0,0:31:08.62,0:31:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are still being sought. Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.06,0:31:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And beyond having not learned, Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.54,0:31:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think knowledge is there. Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.11,0:31:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, in the streets Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.94,0:31:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see all these people that at some Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.52,0:31:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point were also facing Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.33,0:31:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from their schools from the shots Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.00,0:31:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the protests that have taken place in the Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.03,0:31:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were doing on the street Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.65,0:31:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes at least I can also observe Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.29,0:31:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a great has been a great a great Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.19,0:31:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,age range so younger so more Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.21,0:31:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adolescents do not have as much as the Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.87,0:31:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience or knowledge of what Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.75,0:31:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are in manifestations of what there is Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.58,0:32:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which to confront the repression Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.90,0:32:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the police Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.02,0:32:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's quite a bit of innocence to be had as well. Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.54,0:32:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medium Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.15,0:32:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but today we're already Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.69,0:32:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,several months of conflict already then Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.60,0:32:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of the knowledge that is not Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.74,0:32:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attended until the beginning of this Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.81,0:32:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conflict and I think that in the latter Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.64,0:32:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weeks now Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.19,0:32:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's much more common to meet people Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.47,0:32:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is already more or less clear about what Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.84,0:32:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to protect yourself how to take care of yourself Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.54,0:32:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to take care of colleagues Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.89,0:32:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.55,0:32:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I could set such an example Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.39,0:32:46.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much of how the Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.72,0:32:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience of us who were in Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.77,0:32:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the penguin revolution of the comrades Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.02,0:32:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were later in the Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.64,0:32:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mobilizations of 2011 but I do think that Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.49,0:32:57.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're on the street than when Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.25,0:33:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you look around and you find Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.87,0:33:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who are just starting out that Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.39,0:33:10.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know and they join people who already Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.30,0:33:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been a rhythm like that much longer Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.41,0:33:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advanced Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.17,0:33:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's where Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.85,0:33:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's clear that maybe it goes beyond Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.89,0:33:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of words but gives directly Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.42,0:33:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,embodied in the Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.10,0:33:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would invite the Gauls and the Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.58,0:33:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fellow anarchists Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.70,0:33:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we have the possibility of Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.74,0:33:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to organize ourselves to be able to have Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.88,0:33:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positioning and policies from a Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.11,0:34:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,skill intersection Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.86,0:34:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have the I can get lucky today in Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.65,0:34:06.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day on the basis of the conflict that is being Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.78,0:34:06.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living our territories in what Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.89,0:34:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always watched and seen a lot here in the Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.71,0:34:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anarchist circles that were closing in Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.95,0:34:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of affinity group theories Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.59,0:34:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which more or less everyone was chasing Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.54,0:34:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they all had more or less goals Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.76,0:34:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very similar ideas and practices Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.53,0:34:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anarchism at every level to the most Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.71,0:34:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social is actually under a ghetto Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.47,0:34:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I guess my advice is that Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.16,0:34:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open up to the possibility of opening Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.59,0:34:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to open up these ghettos to the Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.23,0:34:48.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possibility of being able to organize with Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.06,0:34:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who may not Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.47,0:34:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily were artists Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.38,0:34:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that those who embrace and ideas Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.88,0:34:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anti-speciesist to embrace ideas Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.28,0:35:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anti-patriarchal Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.65,0:35:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music] Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.95,0:35:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to embrace ideas and spirituals that Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.44,0:35:09.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's rescue a little bit of the ancestry Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.14,0:35:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lost that these centuries of colonization Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.34,0:35:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,western european white hetero Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.47,0:35:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patriarchal has imposed on us has Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.15,0:35:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,snatched Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.73,0:35:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that as opening up the possibilities Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.56,0:35:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of believing in other hobbies than being Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.33,0:35:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open up the spirit and Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.13,0:35:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reconnecting with diversity Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.47,0:35:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think what's happening today Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.25,0:35:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of people joined in because of that for looking Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.14,0:35:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the side and see people so Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.00,0:35:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different with such different ideas Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.19,0:35:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with tools with knowledge so Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.59,0:35:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different but at the same time looking for Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.89,0:36:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same dreaming the same fighting for Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.08,0:36:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.37,0:36:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding themselves having the same Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.03,0:36:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tactics the same practices Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.29,0:36:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roughly that as Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.77,0:36:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to fall so much into grandchildren where Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.19,0:36:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think is all the same if not all the Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.23,0:36:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contrary to opening ourselves up to the possibility of Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.74,0:36:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relate to multiple forms of Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.18,0:36:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think