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I'm Kalcu. I'll introduce myself as Kalcu.

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I live in an anti-authoritarian library

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somewhere in Valparaíso

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the work

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i do is

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I specifically deal with

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actions that

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have to do with creating propaganda

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from this space

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for context,

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the library space is over 15 years old

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for 15 years, the people who live

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in the library

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have generated activities

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and

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a political meeting place for liberatory

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collectives, individuals, and

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organizations

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here in the region of Valparaíso

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. . .

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I think the first thing is to find a

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group of people, a community, or a

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union, or

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or beings that are in your environment

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that have any conflicts in common

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and based on that conflict

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to agree to organize

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among people to achieve an objective

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I think that organizing

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it has to do with the ability

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of people. That ability that

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everyone can contribute every

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one with his or her own knowledge

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add up

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and different visions and

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different postures, different tools that

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each individual each

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person has then I believe

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that organizing is

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is important in the sense that

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organizing can add up

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a multiplicity of ideas easily

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a wealth of knowledge to

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reach an objective.

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When it is necessary

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to run, to get water

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to begin to bring rocks

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from such support on the streets

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it's been very evident lately

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that they are all important ways to help

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each part of the street culture's

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social fabric in the chaos like this.

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Without the person who has baking soda,

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or a lemon, or an ammonia, sometimes

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people who are out there facing repression

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couldn't be there

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or wouldn't even be able to move.

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or be able to get through the day

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with the same energy

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people who bring food that also

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so

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and all those kinds of organizing

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I find it interesting that

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so much of this is spontaneous

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I'd make a point

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about a symbiosis and a cooperation

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among the people who happen

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to be there at that minute,

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without any kind of organization 
or planning beforehand.

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For example, there are people who get fed

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but without necessarily knowing

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that other people are going to bring food.

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I think one of the most interesting things

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has been these new possibilities,

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these new visions

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of spontaneous organization

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where each person present has the

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opportunity to support what’s happening.

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If someone is more afraid than the others

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it doesn’t mean that their presence

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in the crowd isn’t valid or useful,
even if they're standing further back.

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For me, I see “success”

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as the capacity for changing,

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in one way or another, the paradigms

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they’ve had during their life.

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Generally speaking, when somebody

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first gets to know anarchist spaces,

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there is a lot of change, lots of conflict

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lots of transformation.

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No one who leaves an anarchist space

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is the same person as when they entered.

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I’ve been lucky enough to get to know

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spaces like that in Peru, in Argentina,

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in Uruguay, in Brazil,

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each with their own particularities,

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with their own story.

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Every country has its own context too.

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I believe that

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one success that you can

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savor within the practices of anarchists

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is the ability to arrive somewhere

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and meet new people and,

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without even knowing them,

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already have a sense of affinity,

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or a little empathy, since there's already

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in one way or another

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certain points in common.

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Then you have the quantity of experiences,

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of knowledge, of tools

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that these spaces are consistently

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sharing with the people who visit

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and live in anarchist spaces.

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I also think you can measure success

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by how well a project is received by the

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rest of the community, in its neighborhood

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whether that's the ghetto, up in the hills

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or downtown—wherever a space may be.

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Lots of times they’re downtown

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in the middle of the chaos.

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Other times they’re on the outskirts,

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or they’re in monstrously huge houses

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that used to belong to the bourgeoisie,

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or here in Chile there are cases

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of spaces that used to be torture centers,

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but in the end they

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become political spaces,

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political meet up spots,

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a place for political resistance.

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I think how a space is perceived

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by the rest of the community

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is important. Generally speaking,

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when a space is opened up,

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when a space pops up,

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there’s a change with the neighbors.

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There’s more connection

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between the people

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who get involved.

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Often, the barriers of difference

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and prejudice are broken.

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People end up finding,

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generally speaking,

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a group of young people,

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usually kind of strange ones,

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just totally escaping normality

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and normativity,

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but when they get to know us and start

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talking about these beautiful ideals

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like many comrades are vegetarians

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and vegans with

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anti-speciesist views,

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or perspectives against patriarchy,

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against every type of violence.

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Whether people pass through,

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whether they enter those spaces or not,

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those ideas catch on,

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or at least that energy.

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You can feel how these ideas are passed on

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and how, one way or another,

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they reach people and get absorbed.

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There are many spaces, organizations,

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collectives, and affinity groups

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that operate under

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libertarian ideas broadly but

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not explicitly as anarchists.

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Nowadays, there are lots of ways to

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identify yourself as anti-authoritarian,

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or anarchist.

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a little more open.

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diversity within the same group,

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while I think anarchist organizations

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are a little more concentrated,

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rather than opening themselves up

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to diversity, the way more libertarian

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collectives and communities do.

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It’s hard to define.

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Hard to parse it out, but I think that

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both the individual and collective

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positions of each community is unique.

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Bluntly speaking—the question of hierarchy

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and the organizational form they use.

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Any party-based organization,

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from the most left-leaning

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to the furthest right-wing

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utilizes a hierarchical structure

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in its form of organizing.

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They also form part of the

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political circus, the spectacle

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that people are disenchanted with.

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organization anarchists use

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always take an anti-state position.

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They call authority itself into question,

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they criticize it. They won’t submit

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to the will of others

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nor will they impose their own decisions.

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for people who don’t know

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much about the difference

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between anarchists, leftists,

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and other tendencies, they just

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But in reality, no, anarchism can’t be

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boxed into those parameters.

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Rather, it’s a political position,

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a philosophy that involves

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political beliefs but,

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more than anything,

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anarchism

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doesn’t use hierarchy

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in its organizational forms.

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Since we’re all so different,

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the positions we take depend on

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each organization, or affinity group,

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or union. Here we also have

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neighborhood assemblies.

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There’s also cordones,

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which simply means a sector of the city,

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but the word is also used in reference to

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geographically-based councils

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that involve local residents,

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shanty-dwellers, and tenants.

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and the forms of organization

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are decided on together, whether that be

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by majority-rule or by consensus.

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Not all of them are totally rejected, and

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there isn’t only one way to organize.

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leave a group, to start your own,

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if you’re not happy with the

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methods of organizing

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or decision-making.

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It’s in the hands of the collective.

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In my time, through all the different

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collectives & groups I’ve participated in

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but also in other groups I’ve witnessed

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while just passing through places,

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rarely have I ever heard questions like,

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“How can we attract more participants,

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or more comrades?”

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I think there are different positions,

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for example more anti-social ones,

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whose propaganda is more informative than

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trying to attract new participants or

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comrades or convincing anyone of anything.

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more insurrectionary tendencies,

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from the most radical tendencies there

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isn’t really much of a call or

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direct invitation for people to join up,

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or to start believing in anarchist ideas.

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But there are comrades whose

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political work is more social,

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more based in people-power,

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who believe in organizing from below

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and neighborhood organizing.

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And I think that the work they do

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is also a kind of propaganda, & what they

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do also has to do with art, with

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artistic expression, with all kinds of

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things that have to do with culture.

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And there’s always the theory side too.

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Which isn’t to say that other kinds of

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tendencies don’t have

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that kind of diversity, just that

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the ends they’re seeking aren’t identical.

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comrades from more anti-social tendencies

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and tendencies that are

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more about social unity, we've had

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both the possibility and the ability

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to not identify each other as enemies

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despite the fact that

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we find ourselves

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in different trenches.

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show up in those spaces, those circles,

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those affinity groups and organizations,

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are there not because someone

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sought to convince them of something,

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they felt attracted towards an idea.

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More than being convinced,

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those groups have participants

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because of their own ideas and feelings.

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And other people come through because

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they want to draw, to express themselves,

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for reasons that have to do with art,

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or they have an idea for a project, or

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because they have friends there & they

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find themselves in a political project

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where there’s lots of work to be done

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with the community. I think here in Chile

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we’ve had the chance to experience a

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broad range of anarchist and

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anti-authoritarian practices and tactics.

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For me, strategy is

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deciding on an objective

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and seeking ways

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to achieve that objective,

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thinking about

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how to advance towards it,

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whether that’s individually

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or collectively.

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And depending on

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the ideas that arise,

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we can start thinking of tactics,

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of the ways

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to achieve those goals.

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That’s basically how I see it.

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On the one hand, we visualize, theorize,

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develop our politics, basically thinking

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on what it is we want—what we're seeking.

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On the other hand, we start taking action

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and we see how specifically we can make

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those ideas real. In Chile, we’re lucky—

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well I don’t know if “lucky” is the word,

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but our history is full of conflict, of

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blatant political persecution,

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and of riots.

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So conflicts and objectives

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have always been present.

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The strategies and tactics

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that have been used in general

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have been pretty broad.

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Nowadays we can, for example,

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hold marches, with the goal

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of making visible, like,

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of demonstrating discontent,

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and that we are many.

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Accordingly, the tactics

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in those marches show discontent,

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which is made visible with rioting.

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People raise their voices, shout,

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they can say whatever they want.

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Then there’s blocking the street,

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barricades—different kinds too.

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There’s barricades with fire,

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or with stones,

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there are comrades who help

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and rescue those who are injured.

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I believe all these little roles

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that emerge in the circumstances

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of street conflicts are the tactics

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that are getting adopted.

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It also has a lot to do with the abilities

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that each person may have.

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Nowadays, there’s a lot of talk

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about the primera linea,

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which refers to the comrades

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on the frontline

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taking the brunt of the repression,

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of all the police violence,

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and they try to drive the cops back

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with stones, with molotovs and slingshots,

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with whatever they can,

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even by just shouting at them.

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and at the same time there are people who are

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helping with

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baking soda,

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with milk of magnesium

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to take away the irritability

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from the tear gas bombs

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there are people who are there to

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help by driving their cars

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to mobilize people in groups

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relief teams and rescue teams

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the tactics that are winning these days

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can be inspired by other struggles

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so for example tactics here have

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been inspired by the conflict in Hong Kong

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the idea of using lasers

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and of using water jugs

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to put out tear gas bombs

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all these kinds of tactics are

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lifelong learning the

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constant learning

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to observe also the conflicts that exist

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around the world that also serve

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as inspiration so that we can have

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new experiences new ways of

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attacking, new forms of resistance

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within the territories in conflict.

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When I was about to faint on the verge

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of collapse and someone showed up

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with a little bit of ammonia or

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sometimes it was only water the

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preparation and how it has evolved

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all these forms of resistance is very

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evident

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Throughout history,

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all these groups that generate

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organizational circles

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often get in internal conflicts

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because of the strategies or tactics

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that they use

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and that generally

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in different types of organizations

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they aren't shared by everyone.

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Today, what's happening in Chile is that

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all forms of organization are

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helping out, as long as they don't have a

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party structure, as long as they don't

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have an authoritarian position.

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Today, we are able

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to organize ourselves to

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to help ourselves to add up

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energy between territorial assemblies,

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between affinity groups

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between liberated spaces and squats

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between labor unions

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independent workers

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among professionals and among people

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who live on the streets.

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The experience that is being lived today

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in Chile is very enriching

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in demonstrating this. In

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demonstrating that everyone adds up

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Beyond the capabilities or the

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tools that they may perceive,

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00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:16,919
everyone can add to our strength

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to continue the struggle,

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with a clear vision, with a goal,

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with an idea, with a force,

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in the face of capitalist catastrophe,

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In the face of the capitalist devastation,

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it is necessary to have this energy.

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There are those of us,

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There are many people

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who can't stay calm and continue life

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in this "normality,"

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when it is evident that they are

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exterminating our future.

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I believe that the learning or the way

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00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,929
to continue

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absorbing

442
00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:45,030
all this knowledge has to do with

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quite a bit of communication,

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oral communication.

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As I was saying, Chile has a

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long history of resistance, of

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political positions, of poor neighborhoods

448
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:05,899
in the struggle. So, obviously today for

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00:25:03,059 --> 00:25:09,299
new generations of radicals, anarchists,

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00:25:05,899 --> 00:25:14,009
or more subversive people,

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00:25:09,299 --> 00:25:16,710
it's inevitable that things are learned

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00:25:14,009 --> 00:25:19,049
from the past. For example, this it has to do with the

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00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:23,159
student protests, blocking traffic,

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00:25:19,049 --> 00:25:24,840
building barricades, sharing pamphlets.

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These are internationally used

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00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,970
resistance and street fighting practices.

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And here,

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00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:36,490
it is possible if you want

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00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:39,060
to go know to make barricades.

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00:25:36,490 --> 00:25:43,850
you can go

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on certain dates to the universities

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00:25:43,850 --> 00:25:49,389
and you don't need to ask any questions,

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00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:51,180
just observe.

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Many,

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00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:56,410
many anarchist comrades from these

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00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:58,440
territories

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00:25:56,410 --> 00:26:02,269
are close to

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00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:05,100
formerly politically persecuted people.

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I've known my fellow men and women

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who are family members, who are nephews,

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00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,860
who are grandchildren, who are children of

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00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:13,019
politically persecuted, tortured and

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00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:14,159
disappeared people,

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00:26:13,019 --> 00:26:16,280
who now identify as

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00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:18,590
anarchists.

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00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,780
These experiences and knowledge

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00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:24,920
that only these people have, have been

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00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:27,020
and are being transmitted through films,

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through conversations,

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00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:32,010
through documentaries.

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The ways to learn

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about this

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00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:37,059
and

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00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:41,200
to express that knowledge

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00:26:37,059 --> 00:26:44,049
to expand that knowledge

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00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,740
are always

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very diverse

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Communication, I think, is

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basically one of the main ways.

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To have the confidence to find

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groups of people to who

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00:26:58,490 --> 00:27:02,920
you can ask about

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00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:11,250
how they worked and also to identify

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and learn from the mistakes made by

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groups, subversive groups for example.

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Also, in these

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territories we are fortunate that

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many, many of us have

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00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,710
Mapuche ancestry. Also, it

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00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:28,410
is history that is important to

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00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:30,150
rescue and that obviously none of

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00:27:28,410 --> 00:27:32,320
us forget. We always have that

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00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:34,870
present.

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We also have that duality or that

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00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:41,320
ability to position ourselves politically

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00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:42,940
like this from the point of view of

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00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,730
anarchists-but at the same time not

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00:27:42,940 --> 00:27:47,230
forgetting that we have our own

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00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:49,179
history. That, we have our own

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individuality. That, we are from this

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territory. That, we come from a

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colonized territory. That, our

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00:27:54,940 --> 00:27:59,830
history and our practices and our

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visions of anarchism

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00:27:59,830 --> 00:28:04,169
aren't going to be it 100% the same as the

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fellow anarchists who are from

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Palestine, Rojava, or Europe, or

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from other parts of

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Latin America.

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I also believe that

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we have

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the capacity to find fun ways

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00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:27,700
to be able to

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travel to meet each other.

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To find groups, in which one

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00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:34,799
can arrive and feel comfortable to

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00:28:32,019 --> 00:28:34,799
to be able to learn with.

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00:28:44,850 --> 00:28:50,920
Part of what is happening now

529
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:54,070
you can see in one of the new slogans

530
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:57,720
used since the start of this new conflict

531
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:57,720
that, "It's not 30 pesos, it's 30 years."

532
00:28:57,860 --> 00:29:03,110
We've been in this fake democracy

533
00:29:00,350 --> 00:29:04,400
for 30 years.

534
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:06,220
It's like other democracies

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00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,710
world-wide.

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00:29:06,220 --> 00:29:10,809
I was lucky enough

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00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:12,790
to be part of a committee

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00:29:10,809 --> 00:29:15,190
for the student "penguin revolution "

539
00:29:12,790 --> 00:29:17,550
mobilizations of 2006, when I was

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00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:17,550
a senior in high school.

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00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:26,440
In what ways have I seen that

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00:29:23,090 --> 00:29:26,440
that movement helped in the long term?

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00:29:27,049 --> 00:29:31,700
It's evident to anyone who is

544
00:29:29,570 --> 00:29:34,850
in the street protests here now that

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00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:37,159
consciously open their eyes a little

546
00:29:34,850 --> 00:29:38,919
and who wants to sense what's

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00:29:37,159 --> 00:29:41,090
going on around them, that many

548
00:29:38,919 --> 00:29:43,340
of the people in the street protests,

549
00:29:41,090 --> 00:29:46,240
much of the age range

550
00:29:43,340 --> 00:29:49,179
that you see on the street

551
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,650
are people in our thirties,

552
00:29:49,179 --> 00:29:52,360
thirty-somethings who were

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00:29:50,650 --> 00:29:54,790
in school at that time and that were

554
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,370
part of the "penguin revolution."

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00:29:54,790 --> 00:29:59,679
Today, some are professionals who

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00:29:57,370 --> 00:30:02,980
are in debt, living with the

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00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:07,190
consequences of how this

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00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:09,110
neoliberal education system works.

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00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:13,020
And, many others are not professionals.

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00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:15,990
Many others weren't interested.

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00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:20,330
Or, they weren't able to go to university.

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00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:23,780
They weren't able to get onto

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00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:23,780
this production line-

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00:30:23,870 --> 00:30:30,140
this social production line.

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00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:31,520
At the same time, others who

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00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:32,900
also suffer from the

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00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,759
consequences of this capitalist system

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00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:40,399
and who have followed the students'

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00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:42,259
example today have knowledge

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00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:47,209
- know how the mobilizations of 2006

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00:30:42,259 --> 00:30:49,090
- know that promises were made that

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00:30:47,209 --> 00:30:51,790
were never fulfilled.

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00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:55,570
As a result, 2011 also saw

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00:30:51,790 --> 00:30:59,330
an explosion from the students.

575
00:30:55,570 --> 00:31:03,380
Because nothing had changed.

576
00:30:59,330 --> 00:31:05,000
Today, more than 10 years later,

577
00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:07,390
the same claims continue to be made

578
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,390
and the same objectives

579
00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:12,660
are still being sought.

580
00:31:13,059 --> 00:31:20,110
And beyond having not learned,

581
00:31:16,539 --> 00:31:21,940
I don't think knowledge is there.

582
00:31:20,110 --> 00:31:24,519
For example, in the streets

583
00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:29,039
you see all these people that at some

584
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:29,039
point were also facing

585
00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:35,030
from their schools from the shots

586
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,650
the protests that have taken place in the

587
00:31:35,030 --> 00:31:40,290
were doing on the street

588
00:31:37,650 --> 00:31:44,190
yes at least I can also observe

589
00:31:40,290 --> 00:31:48,210
that a great has been a great a great

590
00:31:44,190 --> 00:31:51,870
age range so younger so more

591
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:54,750
adolescents do not have as much as the

592
00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:56,580
experience or knowledge of what

593
00:31:54,750 --> 00:31:57,900
are in manifestations of what there is

594
00:31:56,580 --> 00:32:00,020
in which to confront the repression

595
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:02,540
from the police

596
00:32:00,020 --> 00:32:04,150
there's quite a bit of innocence to be had as well.

597
00:32:02,540 --> 00:32:07,860
medium

598
00:32:04,150 --> 00:32:07,860
but today we're already

599
00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:15,740
several months of conflict already then

600
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,810
many of the knowledge that is not

601
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:19,640
attended until the beginning of this

602
00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:22,190
conflict and I think that in the latter

603
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,470
weeks now

604
00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:26,840
it's much more common to meet people

605
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:29,539
who is already more or less clear about what

606
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,890
how to protect yourself how to take care of yourself

607
00:32:29,539 --> 00:32:35,549
how to take care of colleagues

608
00:32:32,890 --> 00:32:38,389
I believe that

609
00:32:35,549 --> 00:32:42,720
I don't know if I could set such an example

610
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:46,769
so much of how the

611
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:49,019
experience of us who were in

612
00:32:46,769 --> 00:32:50,639
the penguin revolution of the comrades

613
00:32:49,019 --> 00:32:53,489
who were later in the

614
00:32:50,639 --> 00:32:55,249
mobilizations of 2011 but I do think that

615
00:32:53,489 --> 00:32:57,869
when you're on the street than when

616
00:32:55,249 --> 00:33:02,389
you look around and you find

617
00:32:57,869 --> 00:33:06,299
people who are just starting out that

618
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:10,409
don't know and they join people who already

619
00:33:06,299 --> 00:33:12,169
have been a rhythm like that much longer

620
00:33:10,409 --> 00:33:15,730
advanced

621
00:33:12,169 --> 00:33:15,730
I think that's where

622
00:33:15,850 --> 00:33:20,420
it's clear that maybe it goes beyond

623
00:33:18,890 --> 00:33:23,920
of words but gives directly

624
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:23,920
embodied in the

625
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:43,700
I would invite the Gauls and the

626
00:33:39,580 --> 00:33:49,740
fellow anarchists

627
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:52,880
that we have the possibility of

628
00:33:49,740 --> 00:33:55,110
to be able to organize ourselves to be able to have

629
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,860
positioning and policies from a

630
00:33:55,110 --> 00:34:00,650
skill intersection

631
00:33:57,860 --> 00:34:02,780
we have the I can get lucky today in

632
00:34:00,650 --> 00:34:06,549
day on the basis of the conflict that is being

633
00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:06,549
living our territories in what

634
00:34:08,889 --> 00:34:15,950
I've always watched and seen a lot here in the

635
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:19,590
anarchist circles that were closing in

636
00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:21,540
a lot of affinity group theories

637
00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:23,760
which more or less everyone was chasing

638
00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:28,670
and they all had more or less goals

639
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,670
very similar ideas and practices

640
00:34:30,530 --> 00:34:36,470
anarchism at every level to the most

641
00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:39,159
social is actually under a ghetto

642
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:42,590
then I guess my advice is that

643
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:45,230
open up to the possibility of opening

644
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:47,060
to open up these ghettos to the

645
00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:48,470
possibility of being able to organize with

646
00:34:47,060 --> 00:34:51,379
people who may not

647
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:54,879
necessarily were artists

648
00:34:51,379 --> 00:34:57,279
that those who embrace and ideas

649
00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:59,650
anti-speciesist to embrace ideas

650
00:34:57,279 --> 00:35:00,950
anti-patriarchal

651
00:34:59,650 --> 00:35:03,440
[Music]

652
00:35:00,950 --> 00:35:06,140
to embrace ideas and spirituals that

653
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:09,339
let's rescue a little bit of the ancestry

654
00:35:06,140 --> 00:35:14,470
lost that these centuries of colonization

655
00:35:09,339 --> 00:35:17,150
western european white hetero

656
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:19,329
patriarchal has imposed on us has

657
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:19,329
snatched

658
00:35:20,730 --> 00:35:27,330
is that as opening up the possibilities

659
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:34,130
of believing in other hobbies than being

660
00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:38,330
open up the spirit and

661
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:38,330
reconnecting with diversity

662
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:47,140
I think what's happening today

663
00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:49,000
a lot of people joined in because of that for looking

664
00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:51,190
to the side and see people so

665
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,590
different with such different ideas

666
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:56,890
with tools with knowledge so

667
00:35:53,590 --> 00:35:59,080
different but at the same time looking for

668
00:35:56,890 --> 00:36:00,370
the same dreaming the same fighting for

669
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,030
the same

670
00:36:00,370 --> 00:36:07,290
finding themselves having the same

671
00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:10,970
tactics the same practices

672
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,970
roughly that as

673
00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:17,230
not to fall so much into grandchildren where

674
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:19,740
think is all the same if not all the

675
00:36:17,230 --> 00:36:22,180
contrary to opening ourselves up to the possibility of

676
00:36:19,740 --> 00:36:24,570
relate to multiple forms of

677
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,570
think