Thank you. Can you hear me? Yes, Sebastian? Can you hear me? So I'm Sandi Metz. I'm from Duke University. I know that you guys, some people think of the, of universities as being just like the enterprise except - with lower standards. [laughs] - (audience laughs) There's a little truth in that. Honestly - there's a little truth in that. But also universities are places where we get more freedom to do, to be out on the leading edge of software. And because of that at Duke -- (I'm sorry, they told me to stand back here in the light) At Duke we've been writing Smalltalk apps since the early 1990's. So I have 10 years of experience of Smalltalk. So if this were a weekday, there would be someone in my office doing maintenance on a production application that's written Smalltalk that does grants management at Duke University. They would be working on it right now. We're a little bit different than a lot of you in that we don't have millions of users, we don't have high transaction rates, we don't have huge piles of data. But what we do have is applications that have been around a long time and that get changed really every day. So, the apps that I write - I don't actually use myself, so you can't really say that "we eat our own dogfood" but I look at leftovers every day. And I have for a long long time. But enough about me. Let's talk about you. Because you're here, I'm guessing that you've written an application. And even though I've never seen that app, there's something I can say about it: It's gonna change.