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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.42,0:00:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}35C3 preroll music{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.47,0:00:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald-Angel: So, congress isn't only\Nabout techy meet ups. It's about
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.91,0:00:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personality. It's about humans. And what\Nhappens when block chain and social
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.96,0:00:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connection meet each other and have a\Nbaby? Well, Scuttlebutt: the decentralized
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.80,0:00:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social network may result. And Zenna or\Nzelf will introduce Scuttlebutt to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.42,0:00:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.62,0:00:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.29,0:01:03.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zenna: So, hello! I'm Zenna or more maybe\Nknown in Scuttlebutt as zelf. That's my
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.89,0:01:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profile picture. I'm not just trying to\Nput anything out there. {\i1}laughing{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.83,0:01:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But yes, I'm zelf or Zenna and I've got a\Nbackground of seven years in digital
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.62,0:01:21.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fabrication / the fab lab scene and I'm a\Ngrant writer for Scuttlebutt. That's why
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.34,0:01:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll be talking about Scuttlebutt today.\NSo I'll take this off. Because it was
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.34,0:01:32.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making noise. So what's Scuttlebutt? Can\Nwe get a really really quick, how many
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.65,0:01:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people here have heard about Scuttlebutt\Nbefore? Eeey, that's a few, that's pretty
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.52,0:01:45.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good. Okay. Second question: how many\Npeople got on Scuttlebutt? Okay, that's
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.29,0:01:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not all of you. Those of you who had heard\Nabout it but didn't get on: Uh, uh, mm.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.91,0:02:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yes. So the rest of you, we'll be\Ntelling you what Scuttlebutt's about. So,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.89,0:02:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scuttlebutt, it's a really strange name\Nright? It's like the first reaction
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.18,0:02:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone has. So Scuttlebutt, originally,\Nit's a sailing term for water container.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.97,0:02:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's slang for gossip, which is also why\NScuttlebutt is created... whoops, is
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.43,0:02:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called the gossiping protocol. So,\NScuttlebutt was created by Dominic when he
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.08,0:02:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was living on a boat and he was like "Huh,\NI'm living here on a boat, but I want to
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.65,0:02:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk to all my friends. What should I do?\NWell, I'll build my own protocol." Of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.66,0:02:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course that's the first thought everyone\Nhas, right? So he did. And Scuttlebutt
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.76,0:02:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was born. So it's a peer to peer gossiping\Nprotocol. So, some of you might be curious
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.78,0:03:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what specifically is that? It's not a\Ncentralized system. Most people here
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.22,0:03:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should recognize this casual one.\NActually, oh wait, let me check it. Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.81,0:03:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Good. It's more like, whoops,\Ndouble, this. So, it's a distributed
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.40,0:03:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,network with... distributed not\Ndecentralized, if anyone cares about that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.08,0:03:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difference. Or this, which is by the way a\Npicture of Andre Staltz actual network.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.74,0:03:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a picture of mix's network.\NSimply put, it's kind of like this. You
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.76,0:03:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got your friends. You got your friends'\Nfriends. This you can see and you can
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.22,0:03:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,store on your computer, then you got your\Nfriends' friends' friends. This you can't
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.34,0:04:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see but you can store, except if you're\Nusing patch bay then you can also see it,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.79,0:04:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but yeah. {\i1}laughing{\i0}\NAnd beyond! Which you don't even know
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.54,0:04:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exists. So, that's how we communicate. So,\Nto point this out, this also means that no
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.32,0:04:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one else knows you exist, which makes it\Nvery difficult. Approximately right now
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.54,0:04:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're around 10000 users on Scuttlebutt.\NThe thing is... Afterwards! The thing is,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.97,0:04:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not sure that's the exact number\Nbecause it's impossible to actually be
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.63,0:04:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to tell how many people are out\Nthere. Do you really want to... okay,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.21,0:04:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay. So, this means there can be\Ncommunities using these in a mesh network
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.80,0:05:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,village somewhere, for example, or it\Ncould be something else. And that's like,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.58,0:05:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physically impossible. Like, it's not\Npossible with the protocol. So, that's
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.61,0:05:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the basics of it. But there's also\Npubs, and pubs are basically – OK, what if
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.10,0:05:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to know more people than the people\Nwho are within my friends' friends'
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.08,0:05:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friends' reach, you know? What if I want\Nto know someone else who deals with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.30,0:05:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shrooms? Not shrooms, mushrooms. As a\Nshout out to gliph out there, who does
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.28,0:05:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that. Then we got pubs. And pubs is a\Nvery, very great analogy is actual
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.72,0:05:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physical pub. So you go there. You meet\Nsome people that are outside of your
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.72,0:05:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friendship circle. You talk, you hear\Ntheir gossip about their friends that you
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.53,0:06:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not connected to. And you tell them\Nyour gossip about your friends etc. And
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.33,0:06:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,essentially, the Scuttlebutt protocol is\Nvery much replicating how real human
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.33,0:06:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interaction actually happens, rather than\Na centralized system which would be more
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.34,0:06:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like: Huh, I take everyone's data, and\Nthen I tell everyone what they need to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.30,0:06:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, sort of very generalized. OK, so\Nthere's a few quirks with Scuttlebutt and
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.41,0:06:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,similar kind of protocols sometimes. So\Nthere's communal data privacy. It's
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.41,0:06:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impossible to see others data unless they\Nare in your network proximity. That's what
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.55,0:06:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we mentioned previously, right? You've got\Noffline usability. So this is one that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.40,0:06:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surprises most people because most people\Nthink: Internet, huh, I need a connection.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.17,0:06:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, you don't! So it's completely usable\Nin mesh communities and over, for
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.74,0:07:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example, Sneakernet. And third quirk:\NYou've got free listening. This is more of
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.49,0:07:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a design quirk but it's still one that's\Nvery important, I think. So rather than a
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.03,0:07:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,top down censoring, there's a choice of\Nblocking. So you can choose to not listen,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.06,0:07:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than removing/revoking someone's\Nright to speak. Then we got the fourth
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.25,0:07:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quirk which, yeah, it's in the air a\Nlittle bit, but it's hardware bound. So
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.37,0:07:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the SSB accounts are tied to the device\Nthey're on. No passwords and more
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.01,0:07:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult to swarm, which, mmh, yeah, it\Ncould be discussed, but still it's
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.91,0:07:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hardware bound, so no passwords which\Ncurrently means, if you have an account,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.41,0:07:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't like log in with the same\Naccount on mobile and then use it on your
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.52,0:07:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computer as well. You have to have like\Ntwo different ones. Yes, what if you loose
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.28,0:08:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your device though? If it's hardware\Nbound, that sucks! This has happened to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.34,0:08:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me. So that's where Dark Crystal comes in,\Nand I hope Dan is OK with this because
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.66,0:08:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've done this before, but he's going to\Nexplain a little bit about Dark Crystal.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.66,0:08:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}laughing{\i0}\NDan: {\i1}incomprehensible{\i0} ... technologies
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.63,0:08:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the assumption that the human or\Nmachine or entity interacting
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.13,0:08:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the protocol is the sole custodian of\Na private key. Try and imagine something
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.53,0:08:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really precious which if you lost it you\Nwould lose access capacity and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.98,0:08:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affordances. So I'm not talking about a\Npassport or a bank card. Those things you
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.52,0:08:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can go to a central authority and you can\Nreplace them. If you lose your password to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.99,0:09:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Facebook, you could go through some\Nprocess, such as showing them an identity
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.86,0:09:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,card or some other identifying feature\Nwhich they would determine binds to you,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.69,0:09:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the human, who is the owner of that\Naccount. In peer to peer systems, there is
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.93,0:09:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no company, there's no central authority\Nto whom you can go and jump through
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.27,0:09:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever process to regain access. So if\Nyou lose your private key, you are screwed
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.55,0:09:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in peer to peer world. This is your\Ndigital identity and if you lose it you're
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.09,0:09:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screwed. That's very fragile. Password\Nmanagers are hard. About 17 percent of all
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.36,0:09:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bitcoins which will ever be minted, have\Nstatistically look like they've been lost.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.73,0:09:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you literally can't pay people to keep\Nthis stuff secure, I think it indicates
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.64,0:10:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's a right problem to solve. And\Nthat's really what we've been working on
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.74,0:10:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Dark Crystal. If you're a Harry\NPotter geek, think Horcrux. If you're not
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.29,0:10:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Harry Potter geek, it's a mechanism\Nwhich leverages human relationships and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.06,0:10:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trust, and you weave a spell saying of my\Nfive friends, let's say my mom, my dad,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.94,0:10:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two brothers and my best friends. As long\Nas three of these people out of the five
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.10,0:10:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confirm and grant me access, then you can\Nregain the original secrets. In this case
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.40,0:10:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it might be a private key, without\Nthemselves holding the shards, the piece
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.92,0:10:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,revealing anything to them. So it's pretty\Nexciting. Hope that helps.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.27,0:10:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zenna: Thank you Dan, who is right here\Nactually. No? Oh that's right,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.54,0:11:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sorry about that.\NDan: {\i1}incomprehensible{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.03,0:11:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zella: You're what?\NDan: {\i1}incomprehensible{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.12,0:11:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zella: Okay, {\i1}laughing{\i0}, another Kiwi\Nthat was. I have yet to actually
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.58,0:11:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meet Dan in person. And there's\Na lot of people out here that
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.13,0:11:18.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is like the first time we meet because we\Nwork online only. So it's pretty exciting
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.89,0:11:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be here. We like running around\Nscouting, who could be that person on
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.45,0:11:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scuttlebutt? Um, yes. This is Dan. He's\Nthe founder of Blockades, an acclaimed
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.66,0:11:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crypto guru. So, how do I use Scuttlebutt?\NThe actual usage of Scuttlebutt could look
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.92,0:11:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like this. This is patchwork. Patchwork is\Nthe recommended one to use once you start
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.06,0:11:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using Scuttlebutt. But there's many other.\NBecause remember, Scuttlebutt is only the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.92,0:11:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protocol, and then you can place many\Ndifferent interfaces and applications over
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.83,0:12:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it. So you got Manyverse, which is a\Nmobile client which André Staltz released
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.06,0:12:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like two months ago. And we got Patchbay\Nwhich Dark Crystal currently is being run
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.27,0:12:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,via. And it's more experimental, easier to\Nchange than Patchwork. And TickTack, which
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.17,0:12:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is like a blog stylish. And then you got\Nmore specialized applications because
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.16,0:12:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously you don't only have to use like\Na social media interface. You could also,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.74,0:12:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, play chess. That's you! Eyy!\NHello by the way. {\i1}laughing{\i0} Or, you can
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.57,0:12:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make book reviews applications, or skill\Nsharing applications. And it goes on and
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.70,0:13:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on and on. Pretty much anything that has\Nto do with connections between people. So,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.48,0:13:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is where we get to the second part.\NHow does Scuttlebutt fit into the future?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.76,0:13:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ooh, what a yummy question. Before, oh,\Ndid I not add that? I had this gif. Is
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.59,0:13:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that coming soon? Right. Yes. OK, let's\Njust jump to the gif because it's fun.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.72,0:13:30.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's do the wave before because we're\Ngonna get like shifted a little bit. Now
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.51,0:13:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've heard about Scuttlebutt. You know\Nwhat it is. Now we're going to kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.90,0:13:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about like more futurists. So, could\Nwe try out quick wave starting from over
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.72,0:13:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there, spreading downwards, going up here,\Nspreading backwards? Is that possible? Are
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.76,0:13:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you guys capable of this? Yes? Yes?! Are\Nyou down? That person over there, stand up
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.70,0:14:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're ready! Wooooh, OK, let's go! OK,\Nwe got it, ready. OK. It's somewhere
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.23,0:14:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goiiiiiiiing. {\i1}laughing{\i0} Good job people!\NOK, so instead we'll go back a bit,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.64,0:14:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're switching. We're talking\Nabout the future and we're talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.79,0:14:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solar punk. So solar punk is a common\Nfuturistic approach. It started as a sci
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.18,0:14:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fi genre which many people in this kind of\Ncommunity also very much enjoys. It's a
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.43,0:14:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way of looking at how we can shape the\Nfuture. And it's also an aesthetic, or
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.65,0:15:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guess sometimes. So there are very, very\Nmany different views of how the future
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.61,0:15:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be. So I'm talking right now, so\Nobviously I'll be presenting my view, and
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.30,0:15:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what maybe some of my friends and I talk a\Nlot about. But there are as many different
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.49,0:15:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future views as there are people. So none\Nof this is fact, swish? But, yeah, take
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.25,0:15:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it with a grain of salt. So obviously I\Nput this in the wrong wave thing. We're be
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.85,0:15:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming from the perspective of digitally\Nfabricatable society. So solar punk also
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.70,0:15:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of merges very much technology with\Necology, and how to live sustainable in a
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.62,0:15:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world without ravishing it. But still\Nutilizing the developments we do have, and
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.07,0:16:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the knowledge we do have in a good way.\NSo, there are a few ingredients that I
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.55,0:16:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of like cherry picked for this. So\Nit's FabCity, Machines Building Machines,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.37,0:16:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Open Source Ecology and Electronics Home\NProduction or Home Electronics Production,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.20,0:16:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however you want to put it. So we start\Nwith FabCity. FabCity is an initiative.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.94,0:16:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an offspring from the FabLabs\Nmovement. It's globally connected cities
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.58,0:16:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for local manufacturing. And this is kind\Nof a mapish with a few of the countries.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.87,0:16:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as you can see, I'm not going to read\Nall of these cities out. But you can see
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.20,0:16:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there's many, and they're all kind\Nof connected in this big network of cities
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.48,0:16:55.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have proclaimed themselves for local\Nmanufacturing. So you got Paris in there,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.87,0:17:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you got Barcelona in there, you got Seoul,\Nyou got Oakland and Detroit, etc. etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.65,0:17:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one ingredient. These are just\Nflavors. And then we got Machines Building
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.12,0:17:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Machines. Machines Building Machines is\Nkind of the component that can accelerate
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.39,0:17:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this movement. Because sure, you want\Nlocal manufacturing. But are you gonna buy
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.87,0:17:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the machines yourself? Like, is\Neveryone gonna spend a bunch of money to
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.68,0:17:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buy them? No, that's unsustainable. But,\Nif you get the machines to build the
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.41,0:17:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,machines, who can then continue building\Nmachines, you got this rapid movement
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.16,0:17:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going on, right? So Machines Building\NMachines is a movement that was also
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.74,0:17:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started at Fellesverkstedet in Oslo,\Ntogether with MIT. So, Fellesverkstedet is
Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.47,0:17:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Fab Lab sprung out of Bitraf, the hacker\Nspace in Oslo, beautiful place. And
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.37,0:18:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've built the first large scale open\Nsource CNC machine that's completely
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.44,0:18:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,parametric and parametric means it's\Nscalable and you can build a small scale
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.90,0:18:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CNC machine with the same design. So CNC,\Na good one is all you need to build all
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.99,0:18:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the other machines. So we got the first\Nkey, which is pretty damn cool. So what
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.07,0:18:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else kind of machines we want to build?\NWell we want to be able to sustain
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.52,0:18:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ourselves, right? So we got Open Source\NEcology, right? Open Source Ecology is
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.28,0:18:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amongst one, a project where they're\Nbuilding 50, I think, agricultural
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.92,0:18:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,machines in order to locally produce the\Nfood you want. And also 'cause the way the
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.79,0:19:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry around farming works is a little\Nbit corrupt. And we also have projects
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.14,0:19:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as Romi. Romi project is robotic\Nmicro scale for farming. They've just
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.52,0:19:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,received a bunch of funding from European\NUnion, yes, to develop the small scale
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.80,0:19:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,farming in Barcelona. Here's a brief map\Non different farms across Europe which
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.86,0:19:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have started or are in the process of\Nactually becoming digitally fabricatable
Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.88,0:19:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,farming spaces. Yes. Another one, which we\Nmentioned previously this morning, was
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.24,0:19:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Libre Silicon which is really really cool.\NIt's the first time we've kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.63,0:19:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completed the kit now; we can build\Ncomputers from scratch. And you can do it
Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.79,0:19:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your basement. But this one\Nspecifically was for semiconductors, which
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.11,0:20:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was like the missing link. And this is\Nanother. It's a ISP programming board
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.91,0:20:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is standardized by MIT, which they\Nuse in Fab Academy, which is hosted all
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.99,0:20:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the world. And yeah, it's just yet\Nanother example of how easy it is to make
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.20,0:20:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,circuit boards. All right. So, all that is\Ncool right. But what does it really mean?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.26,0:20:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means shoes. No, I'm kidding. But... so\Nto wrap this up we're gonna use an
Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.85,0:20:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,analogy. So, the analogy starts with\Nshoes. So, let's say you want your shoes.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.08,0:20:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that's something we all use, it's\Nsomething we all need, right? Let's say
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.39,0:20:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want shoes, but you don't want to buy\Nthem. So you decide to learn how to make
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.44,0:21:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your shoes. Fabulous, right? But let's say\Nthe neighbors around you they're like,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.03,0:21:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Huh I want shoes too." And previously\Nwhat we had to do was, obviously, well if
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.33,0:21:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one city learns... has like a shoemaker\Nwell then another city has to have one
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.84,0:21:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person who spends all their time learning\Nhow to make shoes. That's a lot of time
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.94,0:21:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consumption. So, you have this one city,\Nthey learn how to build shoes. You have
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.12,0:21:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another city, they learn how to build\Nshoes. You have another city, they learn
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.46,0:21:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to build shoes! That's a lot of\Nlearning of how to build shoes that's
Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.32,0:21:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happening, right? So, what if you just\Nhave one person learn how to build shoes
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.28,0:21:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they share that information open\Nsource. Yaay! Now so many people can build
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.64,0:21:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shoes. Wow. It's incredible. And then,\Nwhat if you have like villages, spread out
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.63,0:21:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the world, building shoes and\Nmaking open source design for maybe even
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.15,0:22:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like toilets or like houses or like\Nshowers or kitchen equipment. And they're
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.15,0:22:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connected in a network, then they can\Nshare together and continuously develop
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.12,0:22:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the resources and the knowledge on how to\Nactually live. Which is the knowledge that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.72,0:22:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow managed to be forgotten in modern\Nsociety. So yes. A quick side note to
Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.40,0:22:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this: I recently heard from Europe's\Nfuture research director. I don't know if
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.69,0:22:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's such a thing, but somehow that was\Nkind of her title. The Adidas, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.07,0:22:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are currently getting into the market of\Nbuilding micro factories instead of
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.68,0:22:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stores. So you can go in there with your\Nold shoe, they'll reuse the material,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.60,0:22:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,break it down, and then you can buy the\Nnew design – you don't actually have to
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.39,0:23:02.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buy the material for the design. So that's\Nkind of their new thinking concept of how
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.34,0:23:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to develop these stores. So, shout out to\Nhackers out there. Just saying. But yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.01,0:23:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. So, for this we need digital files,\Nright? And how do we spread digital files?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.68,0:23:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, our means, our roads, are kind of\Nbeing compromised in current society.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.35,0:23:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is sad. So this is kind of how I\Nended up on Scuttlebutt. I was talking to
Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.41,0:23:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alex. He's sitting right there. \N{\i1}mumbles user name{\i0} on Scuttlebutt.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.08,0:23:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was like... I was like, oh,\Nin order to build this new society
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.90,0:23:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and like if we're actually gonna\Ndo it, and have a change,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.39,0:23:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make a change in the world, we\Nreally need to have like means of
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.96,0:23:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communications that can't be compromised.\NBut... and he was like, huh, haven't you
Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.23,0:24:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heard of {\i1}laughing{\i0} Scuttlebutt or Dat,\Nthat project shoutout, or IPFS, shoutout
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.62,0:24:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well. And I was like, no I haven't,\Nwhat is this. And then I got on, and yeah,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.82,0:24:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the story continues. But either way, to\Nget back what we were talking about:
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.50,0:24:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,digital files and we need to be able to\Nspread them. And in order to move freely,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.07,0:24:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need new protocols, which is what Dat,\NIPFS, and Scuttlebutt can do. And new
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.85,0:24:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protocols could mean freedom of\Ninformation and Scuttlebutt could mean
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.63,0:24:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freedom of information. So that's why I'm\Non Scuttlebutt. Uhm, yes. Welcome to the
Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.22,0:25:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scuttleverse. That's it for me. Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.91,0:25:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.74,0:25:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald Angel: Thank you, Zenna.\NZenna: Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.55,0:25:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Do we have questions in the room?\NPlease go to the microphone number one or
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.22,0:25:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number two because the people on the\Nstream also want to hear you.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.70,0:25:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So who's first? One, two, one, two?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.03,0:25:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think number two was the first.\NSay your question please.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.00,0:25:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: So how does Scuttlebutt actually\Nwork? What's the transport layer?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.49,0:25:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Answer: What's the what what?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.26,0:25:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q: What's the transport layer? Do you use\NWi-Fi, do you use Bluetooth, do you use
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.68,0:25:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something custom?\NA: As mentioned previously I think, you
Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.23,0:25:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you Sneakernet, you can use... we're\Nactually developing, or some people are, I
Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.60,0:25:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know who exactly, but I've heard\Nrumored, using Bluetooth. You can use mesh
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.91,0:26:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networks, you can use regular Wi-Fi.\NChoose your means. You can use radio, if
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.12,0:26:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you really want to. Yeah.\NQ: So what is implemented right now?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.63,0:26:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A: Currently, there's been people\Nresearching Bluetooth as I mentioned. I
Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.48,0:26:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought I heard a rumor was radio\Nsomething. That's been on the air. No?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.72,0:26:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes? Yes! It has. Then we've had, I know\Nmesh networks, actual like protocols built
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.97,0:26:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for mesh networks have also been\Nresearched upon. Personally, that's the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.26,0:26:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one I'm looking into the most. And yeah,\Nobviously regular Wi-Fi as well. Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.08,0:26:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: Thank you. Microphone number one\Nplease.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.22,0:26:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q: You stated that information spread via\NScuttlebutt won't travel more than three
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.48,0:27:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,degrees of separation. But what about\Npubs? If someone in your network joins a
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.75,0:27:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pub, won't he flood all his network\Nthrough the pub?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.54,0:27:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A: Yes.\NQ: And because pub usage is common, you
Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.49,0:27:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should get a fully connected graph?\NA: Yes and no. So what's pretty common now
Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.16,0:27:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the early stages: that's kind of what's\Nhappening, we think. Obviously we don't
Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.71,0:27:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, but that's what we think. So. Since\Nthe community is small enough-ish that a
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.27,0:27:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of people have joined similar pubs,\Nthere is a pretty cohesive use case of the
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.52,0:27:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pubs. But you're also very capable of just\Njoining your friends' pub for example, or
Dialogue: 0,0:27:50.69,0:27:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,setting up your own pub, or not using\Npubs, which is not super recommended, but
Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.98,0:28:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's possible. Yeah. I think that answers\Nthe question-ish. Do want to add onto it?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.23,0:28:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No? Okay.\NH: Thank you for that. Microphone number
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.23,0:28:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two please.\NQ: Hello. I have a question. So you know
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.29,0:28:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how people use social media...\NA: Be a little closer to the microphone.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.45,0:28:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q: You hear me now?\NA: Yes, a little better.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.30,0:28:24.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q: OK. So you know people use social media\Nto talk to their friends...
Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.99,0:28:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A: No no no, a little bit closer.\NQ: OK, they want to talk to their friends.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.07,0:28:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So like, for example like, if a person...\NI'll rephrase my question. OK. So, if a
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.64,0:28:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person, like wants to talk to their friend\Non Facebook, they know that their friend
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.21,0:28:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a Facebook account, so they can just\Nuse Facebook. So like... and you said like
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.12,0:28:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scuttlebutt has a very small\Ncommunity. So how do you entice
Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.19,0:28:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people to join, if there's not many people\Nusing it? So how does Scuttlebutt address
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.38,0:28:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this problem? Hopefully you understood\Nmy question.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.60,0:29:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A: Yes. Oh, actually I think Andre Staltz
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.00,0:29:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be better at answering this\Nquestion, because he's more into the
Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.73,0:29:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole, bringing Scuttlebutt to the masses.\NPersonally, I think we're still in a phase
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.36,0:29:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there's enough things we need to\Nset... more stable before it reaches the
Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.87,0:29:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,massive public. That's personally. But I\Nthink as any other network, I mean it's
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.19,0:29:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the biggest question for any social media\Never out there. How do we get users, you
Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.06,0:29:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know? It's what they always ask. And you\Ncould say, we could use the route of eco
Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.86,0:29:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,villages and eco villages using\NScuttlebutt. Or we could use the route of
Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.53,0:29:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showcasing how much better it is with data\Nprivacy. Or we could use the route of
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.15,0:30:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,waiting for society to become infringing\Nenough on people's privacy that they have
Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.33,0:30:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use scuttlebutt, or etc., you\Nknow? But yeah. It's not a goal of mine,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.71,0:30:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm not the best person to answer that.\NAndre Staltz would be much better to
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.67,0:30:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answer that. Yeah.\NH: Do we have a question from the
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.67,0:30:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interwebs. Not so far, is it? Yes? No?\NOkay. So microphone number one please.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.37,0:30:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q: Hello. My name is Matthew. I'm already\Na member for scuttlers for two years and
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.15,0:30:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's more like a question for audience,\Nsince we don't meet in real life.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.76,0:30:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we have some family photo?\NA: Aahh, I think that's a great idea!
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.93,0:30:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}clapping{\i0} Should we finish after the last\Nquestion, people who are on Scuttlebutt,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.46,0:30:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you come up here, we can take a picture\Ntogether. It'll be one of the biggest
Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.20,0:30:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crabs' meets.\NH: Nice! Connecting in real life, I love
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.41,0:31:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that. Microphone number two please.\NQ: So before even centralized social
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.41,0:31:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networks were in existence, people were\Nkind of worried about, what happens if
Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.86,0:31:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone creates lots of fake accounts. And\Nthis is a simple attack. Now because the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.64,0:31:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scuttlebutt is distributed, and how does\Nthat work the scuttlebutt? Do users have
Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.33,0:31:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to manually block these accounts? Or is\Nthere some centralized system that blocks
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.34,0:31:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fake accounts?\NA: So there is no centralized system, to
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.34,0:31:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start there. If someone creates a fake\Naccount, I mean, define a fake account. If
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.54,0:31:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use an account and don't use my real\Nname is that a fake account? You mean
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.98,0:31:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,harmfull accounts.\NQ: Well, just like, you mentioned that you
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.23,0:31:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have three degrees of separation.\NI could just add
Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.66,0:31:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of bots to your agent network\Nthrough that degree of separation,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.61,0:31:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then flood your feed with nonsense.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.90,0:31:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A: OK. Well, there is two responses there.\NNumber 1: There's the whole hardware
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.69,0:31:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing, that usually when you create an\Naccount, it's kind of tied to the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.84,0:32:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hardware. It's hard to run multiple\Ninstances of Scuttlebutt from the same
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.24,0:32:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computer. But that could also be round\Nabout it, eventually if research comes on
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.02,0:32:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough. The second answer would be the\Nwhole, you can block people. So yeah, it's
Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.63,0:32:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole free listening, non-censoring\Nthing.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.45,0:32:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q: Ok, yeah. Another thing. You said that, I\Nthink, you mentioned that the graph on one
Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.83,0:32:31.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the first slides, it was distributed\Nbut not decentralized?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.45,0:32:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A: So could you repeat, sorry?\NQ: On one of the first slides, you said it
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.54,0:32:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was distributed but not decentralized.\NCould you kind of expand on that a little
Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.47,0:32:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit?\NA: Uh oooh. Honor had a great slide about
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.50,0:32:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this. I did a talk with them recently,\Nit's uh, there's like, if you actually
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.13,0:32:56.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,search difference between distributed and\Ndecentralized, there's this beautiful
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.36,0:33:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,picture you can get where it shows like,\Nthe mapping of a centralized system was
Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.02,0:33:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a node in the middle that's giant,\Nand those, like small peaks. And then you
Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.05,0:33:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a mapping of a decentralized system\Nwhere you have the big nodes, and you have
Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.28,0:33:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone kind of criss crossing, but also\Nvery much on focusing on the nodes. And
Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.63,0:33:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you have the whole distributed\Nsystem. And the distributed system, it's
Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.97,0:33:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more direct between peers to peers to\Npeers to peers to peers to peers. But some
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.58,0:33:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people may argue: What about pubs? That\Nmake's it decentralized, right? Obviously,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.97,0:33:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes and no because you don't have to use\Npubs. So, yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.46,0:33:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,H: So in this case I think we're done.\NThank you very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.38,0:33:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zenna: Thank you!\NH: People, a warm applause for Zenna!
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