WEBVTT 00:00:09.112 --> 00:00:11.641 I'd like to introduce Béla. 00:00:12.081 --> 00:00:14.049 Béla is a successful entrepreneur, 00:00:14.049 --> 00:00:16.042 as we can see, he has a Rolex watch, 00:00:16.042 --> 00:00:18.202 so he can even become a politician. 00:00:18.862 --> 00:00:20.023 He earns a lot of money. 00:00:20.023 --> 00:00:22.552 He spends a lot on himself, he takes care of himself. 00:00:22.552 --> 00:00:27.253 Among other things, he buys a very expensive and safe car 00:00:27.253 --> 00:00:29.976 packed full of sensors. 00:00:29.976 --> 00:00:33.410 So Béla would know immediately, in real time, 00:00:33.410 --> 00:00:36.710 if there were any problems with his car. 00:00:36.710 --> 00:00:39.451 For example, if the pressure is lower in one of the tires, 00:00:39.451 --> 00:00:41.701 or the lambda probe got dirty. 00:00:41.997 --> 00:00:43.815 Although there aren't sensors on Béla, 00:00:43.815 --> 00:00:46.265 he leads a very healthy, conscious lifestyle. 00:00:46.265 --> 00:00:47.886 He pays attention to his diet, 00:00:47.886 --> 00:00:50.031 doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, 00:00:50.031 --> 00:00:52.111 he makes an effort to exercise regularly. 00:00:52.111 --> 00:00:53.321 He gets vaccinated. 00:00:53.321 --> 00:00:54.946 In fact, three or four years ago, 00:00:54.946 --> 00:00:57.816 he was even on a manager-screening test at a private clinic. 00:00:57.816 --> 00:01:01.146 So if we were to ask Béla, "How are you, Béla?" 00:01:01.146 --> 00:01:03.656 Béla would say, "I'm great, thanks." 00:01:04.423 --> 00:01:07.061 But the truth is, unfortunately, 00:01:07.061 --> 00:01:09.202 that Béla won't be among us for long. 00:01:09.612 --> 00:01:12.012 Because his blood sugar level's been 12, 00:01:12.012 --> 00:01:13.433 which is extremely high, 00:01:13.441 --> 00:01:15.011 for at least two years. 00:01:15.011 --> 00:01:18.470 In his eyes, kidneys, limbs, 00:01:18.470 --> 00:01:21.573 the capillaries are irreversibly damaged. 00:01:21.722 --> 00:01:26.323 In addition, he suffers from an extreme narrowing of arteries. 00:01:26.631 --> 00:01:28.941 And he's got a genetic mutation as well, 00:01:28.941 --> 00:01:31.875 which excessively increases the risk of thrombosis. 00:01:32.225 --> 00:01:35.060 Moreover, Béla has atrial fibrillation, 00:01:35.101 --> 00:01:37.541 which is an abnormal behavior of the heart, 00:01:37.564 --> 00:01:39.304 that also forms thrombosis. 00:01:39.966 --> 00:01:41.506 Unfortunately, it seems likely 00:01:41.509 --> 00:01:45.921 that Béla will have an infarction in the near future. 00:01:46.072 --> 00:01:48.662 But if our Béla still survived it, 00:01:48.662 --> 00:01:50.617 then there's still that benign tumor, 00:01:50.617 --> 00:01:53.743 which has been growing in his colon for 15 years, 00:01:53.743 --> 00:01:56.971 and is beginning to transform into tumorous tissue. 00:01:57.004 --> 00:02:00.174 It could be cut out now without any consequences 00:02:00.174 --> 00:02:02.010 and our Béla could go home. 00:02:02.268 --> 00:02:04.028 But by the time they recognize it, 00:02:04.028 --> 00:02:06.952 it can be full of metastases, and then it'll be too late. 00:02:07.399 --> 00:02:09.021 How is this possible? 00:02:09.883 --> 00:02:11.373 Well, it's possible 00:02:11.583 --> 00:02:14.635 because Béla has no symptoms. 00:02:15.185 --> 00:02:17.385 And in Hungary someone can live without trouble 00:02:17.385 --> 00:02:18.845 up to the age of 50 00:02:18.897 --> 00:02:21.567 without ever getting an ECG, 00:02:21.969 --> 00:02:23.969 without ever getting an ultrasound, 00:02:23.992 --> 00:02:26.072 or without ever going for a blood test. 00:02:26.263 --> 00:02:27.743 For many jobs, 00:02:27.743 --> 00:02:32.684 even a compulsory medical examination doesn't contain a simple blood count. 00:02:33.081 --> 00:02:35.621 And what about our socialization? 00:02:35.859 --> 00:02:39.689 What does it mean if you have no symptoms? 00:02:39.689 --> 00:02:41.553 It must mean I'm healthy. 00:02:42.222 --> 00:02:44.102 But that's not true. 00:02:45.044 --> 00:02:49.814 Many diseases have been developing for months, for years or for decades, 00:02:49.814 --> 00:02:51.852 by the time they first cause symptoms. 00:02:52.030 --> 00:02:55.440 Nature couldn't know that we would have doctors. 00:02:55.939 --> 00:02:57.732 If something goes wrong in the body, 00:02:57.750 --> 00:03:00.410 the organism tries to correct it, to fix it. 00:03:00.410 --> 00:03:01.533 Then if it fails, 00:03:01.533 --> 00:03:04.181 it'll try to delay the symptoms as much as possible 00:03:04.181 --> 00:03:07.041 because the symptoms were evolutionary disadvantages. 00:03:07.041 --> 00:03:09.991 Either the prehistoric man didn't catch up with his prey 00:03:10.191 --> 00:03:12.601 or couldn't run away from the lion 00:03:12.953 --> 00:03:17.463 or simply couldn't pass on his genes. 00:03:18.272 --> 00:03:20.542 How many of our friends are proud of saying, 00:03:20.542 --> 00:03:22.705 "I never go to see a doctor." 00:03:22.912 --> 00:03:24.042 How many of them say, 00:03:24.042 --> 00:03:27.402 "I'm not seeing the doc because they could find something." 00:03:27.406 --> 00:03:29.577 As if normally if we didn't know about it, 00:03:29.614 --> 00:03:31.864 that disorder wouldn't exist. 00:03:31.982 --> 00:03:34.199 Sure, there are things that heal by themselves, 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:35.749 but there are a lot that don't. 00:03:36.098 --> 00:03:39.258 For example, tumors rarely go away. 00:03:39.535 --> 00:03:41.085 But let's admit it, 00:03:41.436 --> 00:03:44.536 we all grew up with the notion, it's always in our minds, 00:03:44.536 --> 00:03:47.701 that if there is nothing wrong with me, why should I see a doctor? 00:03:47.701 --> 00:03:49.351 But if we consider 00:03:49.351 --> 00:03:51.491 how many people die being fine 00:03:51.491 --> 00:03:54.369 up until 10 minutes beforehand, 00:03:54.630 --> 00:03:56.735 or at least thinking so, 00:03:56.925 --> 00:03:59.013 it can be clearly deduced 00:03:59.037 --> 00:04:01.617 that any one of us here and now 00:04:01.617 --> 00:04:04.955 can die in 10 minutes even though they're fine now. 00:04:06.524 --> 00:04:10.068 I can see horror on your faces. 00:04:10.671 --> 00:04:14.081 But I have some good news: we can influence this. 00:04:14.081 --> 00:04:16.135 It's up to us. 00:04:16.850 --> 00:04:20.360 But our current systems aren't developed for this. 00:04:20.778 --> 00:04:23.439 What we now call health care 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.187 is in fact sickness care. 00:04:26.670 --> 00:04:31.790 A late-reacting, crisis-driven, reactive system, 00:04:31.790 --> 00:04:34.841 where a specialist tries to treat 00:04:34.841 --> 00:04:39.091 the isolated problems of patients who are usually at an advanced stage 00:04:39.093 --> 00:04:41.792 with methods meant for the masses, 00:04:41.954 --> 00:04:45.282 while the patient is a passive participant. 00:04:45.862 --> 00:04:51.142 Yet, all diseases can be cured more effectively and cheaply 00:04:51.142 --> 00:04:53.186 if we recognize them as soon as possible. 00:04:53.186 --> 00:04:56.636 In fact, it's best not to let them develop. 00:04:57.208 --> 00:04:59.584 During the onset of diabetes, 00:04:59.742 --> 00:05:01.541 there is a 90% chance 00:05:01.541 --> 00:05:05.141 that it can be reversed solely with lifestyle changes. 00:05:05.297 --> 00:05:09.267 90% of the early diagnosed tumors can be cured, 00:05:09.267 --> 00:05:12.229 while in late stages this is obviously much worse. 00:05:12.492 --> 00:05:15.290 Still, more than 97% of our health expenditures 00:05:15.290 --> 00:05:17.794 is devoted to healing, 00:05:17.794 --> 00:05:24.044 and we spend less than 3% for prevention and screening. 00:05:24.750 --> 00:05:26.390 So what are we doing? 00:05:26.487 --> 00:05:30.506 We are waiting for someone to be very ill. 00:05:30.709 --> 00:05:31.893 And when it happens, 00:05:31.893 --> 00:05:34.662 we try to fix it with a heroic struggle 00:05:34.662 --> 00:05:36.493 and huge costs. 00:05:36.698 --> 00:05:38.513 And many times we do succeed. 00:05:38.985 --> 00:05:40.545 And what are we doing afterward? 00:05:40.545 --> 00:05:41.721 We let them go home. 00:05:41.906 --> 00:05:45.416 And we usually wait, wait until they become ill again. 00:05:47.074 --> 00:05:49.654 Also, the core of our doctors' training 00:05:49.654 --> 00:05:53.083 is not to keep someone healthy for as long as possible 00:05:53.083 --> 00:05:54.709 and to prevent illnesses. 00:05:54.761 --> 00:05:59.201 Doctors learn for many, many years and through thousands of pages 00:05:59.201 --> 00:06:02.544 how to fix something when it goes wrong. 00:06:02.845 --> 00:06:05.358 And their material interest is also not in health 00:06:05.358 --> 00:06:08.128 because nobody gets money if someone is healthy. 00:06:08.539 --> 00:06:12.899 The doctor gets money for healing; the insurer pays for sickness. 00:06:12.899 --> 00:06:14.372 Not for health. 00:06:15.340 --> 00:06:20.410 If we think it over like this, how could such a system have developed? 00:06:21.106 --> 00:06:22.816 Actually, it's very simple. 00:06:22.996 --> 00:06:29.488 Because apart from the recent past, for thousands of years, 00:06:29.643 --> 00:06:34.023 doctors had only two ways to learn 00:06:34.023 --> 00:06:36.614 whether the patient had any problems: 00:06:36.614 --> 00:06:40.986 either the patient had visible signs on themselves, 00:06:42.223 --> 00:06:44.246 or they said, 00:06:44.246 --> 00:06:47.106 "I have something wrong with me." 00:06:47.476 --> 00:06:50.256 There weren't any other possibilities. Nothing. 00:06:50.996 --> 00:06:53.946 But it's not the case today. 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:59.530 Not only have doctors other tools, but we do too. 00:06:59.903 --> 00:07:03.913 Nowadays anyone can choose to have a genetic screening test 00:07:03.913 --> 00:07:06.843 for a few tens of thousands of forints. 00:07:06.843 --> 00:07:10.240 Not only for themselves, but even for their entire intestinal flora 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:12.895 of which a lot of illnesses can be predicted. 00:07:12.895 --> 00:07:17.495 For a few tens of thousands of forints, anyone can buy portable devices 00:07:17.495 --> 00:07:23.615 that measure their pulse or ECG throughout the day, 00:07:23.674 --> 00:07:28.954 or their blood oxygen levels, breathing, brain functions, sleep cycles, 00:07:28.985 --> 00:07:33.505 or they measure the exact blood pressure just by touching them to the forehead. 00:07:33.916 --> 00:07:39.852 Anyone can buy a smart toilet, that analyzes end-products, 00:07:39.861 --> 00:07:42.711 and sends the results to their mobile phone. 00:07:42.942 --> 00:07:47.362 We will soon test blood sugar and other blood components without pricking. 00:07:47.362 --> 00:07:52.242 What kind of screening I go for is solely my decision. 00:07:52.356 --> 00:07:56.653 Yeah, but I hear from some of my smart doctor friends: 00:07:56.653 --> 00:08:00.783 "It's not so good because a lot of screenings aren't accurate enough." 00:08:00.888 --> 00:08:02.493 And they're absolutely right. 00:08:02.493 --> 00:08:05.453 We have some tests which aren't accurate enough, 00:08:05.453 --> 00:08:09.407 especially if we study the test results, separately, in themselves. 00:08:09.667 --> 00:08:13.413 One hundred years ago it was super dangerous to fly. 00:08:13.521 --> 00:08:17.319 However, we didn't choose the option to travel to America by boat, 00:08:17.533 --> 00:08:21.153 but we made air travel safer. 00:08:21.663 --> 00:08:24.593 That is to say our methods will become more accurate, 00:08:24.593 --> 00:08:26.964 but until then we can do more tests, 00:08:26.964 --> 00:08:29.240 from which we get much more accurate results. 00:08:29.513 --> 00:08:32.113 My doctor friends say about this: 00:08:32.113 --> 00:08:34.839 "Not all screening tests are worth it." 00:08:35.287 --> 00:08:38.263 Namely, a colon examination - 00:08:38.263 --> 00:08:40.504 that our poor Béla would need too - 00:08:40.504 --> 00:08:44.204 costs 6,000 forints, at least the institutions get that much for it, 00:08:44.204 --> 00:08:47.207 and no more than a few tens of thousands of forints privately. 00:08:47.538 --> 00:08:50.058 This must be contrasted, let's say, 00:08:50.058 --> 00:08:52.875 with treatment of a colon tumor recognized at a late stage, 00:08:52.875 --> 00:08:55.405 which can cost from 10 to 20 million forints. 00:08:55.405 --> 00:08:57.734 Obviously, it's also worth it on a social level. 00:08:57.734 --> 00:09:00.574 But many tests aren't worth it on the population level. 00:09:00.574 --> 00:09:02.479 They're absolutely right. 00:09:02.742 --> 00:09:05.655 But I'm not the population. 00:09:06.219 --> 00:09:10.149 My mother, my brother or my child aren't the population either. 00:09:10.357 --> 00:09:13.281 What is worth it for the insurer and what I choose 00:09:13.281 --> 00:09:15.505 are two completely different questions. 00:09:16.631 --> 00:09:20.404 Currently, the most sensitive way to recognize early-stage tumors 00:09:20.404 --> 00:09:22.934 is the so-called PET CT scan. 00:09:23.065 --> 00:09:24.935 It's a very expensive test. 00:09:24.966 --> 00:09:28.936 It's totally unsuitable for testing on a societal level, that's for sure. 00:09:29.353 --> 00:09:32.322 A couple of years ago, an elderly couple decided 00:09:32.322 --> 00:09:35.378 that they would pay for such a test for each other for Christmas 00:09:35.378 --> 00:09:37.763 from their saved money. 00:09:38.468 --> 00:09:40.318 The results were shocking. 00:09:40.544 --> 00:09:42.974 Both turned out to have tumors. 00:09:43.271 --> 00:09:48.391 In addition, they had different but aggressive tumors with poor prognoses. 00:09:49.013 --> 00:09:52.646 Since being recognized early and managed in time, 00:09:52.646 --> 00:09:55.406 both were cured and are still healthy today. 00:09:55.527 --> 00:09:59.117 If they'd started to treat them when the first symptoms occurred, 00:09:59.117 --> 00:10:01.413 it's sure neither of them would have survived. 00:10:01.643 --> 00:10:04.833 What we're doing now 00:10:05.229 --> 00:10:09.989 is a bit like if we had developed a supercar with tremendous effort, 00:10:09.989 --> 00:10:15.193 driven by a very professional driver at night without any lights. 00:10:15.409 --> 00:10:17.296 And when the obstacles come, 00:10:17.326 --> 00:10:21.266 we would try to avoid them with incredible feats 00:10:21.266 --> 00:10:24.145 or at least minimize the losses, 00:10:24.285 --> 00:10:27.211 instead of turning on the headlights, 00:10:27.211 --> 00:10:32.151 so that we could see the obstacles as they come and avoid them. 00:10:32.191 --> 00:10:35.532 We would go much farther, with much less damage. 00:10:36.358 --> 00:10:41.838 We have to transform this system not just because of the development of technology 00:10:41.860 --> 00:10:44.550 but because it's untenable. 00:10:45.005 --> 00:10:47.202 In all developed countries of the world, 00:10:47.202 --> 00:10:52.196 health expenditures increase about 2-3% faster than the GDP. 00:10:52.196 --> 00:10:57.227 In addition, patients want to participate more actively in their own health care. 00:10:57.770 --> 00:11:02.370 Science, our tools, our sensors, and the development of artificial intelligence 00:11:02.370 --> 00:11:05.260 combined with the explosive growth 00:11:05.260 --> 00:11:08.410 of genetic and other biological information 00:11:08.410 --> 00:11:14.595 will soon enable us to always drive with our headlights on. 00:11:15.090 --> 00:11:19.550 Health will be more about health, 00:11:19.550 --> 00:11:21.887 disease prevention, 00:11:22.111 --> 00:11:25.461 and it'll be a proactive, not a reactive system. 00:11:25.461 --> 00:11:29.768 And when necessary, healing will be personalized 00:11:29.768 --> 00:11:31.360 with individual treatment, 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:34.160 the patient won't be treated with methods for the masses. 00:11:34.160 --> 00:11:36.935 They'll be an active participant in the process. 00:11:37.568 --> 00:11:41.548 In addition, our health care, especially diagnostics, 00:11:41.548 --> 00:11:44.315 will move into our homes very soon. 00:11:44.573 --> 00:11:47.013 I know it sounds a bit futuristic, 00:11:47.143 --> 00:11:50.982 but think about it this way: it wasn't so long ago, 00:11:50.982 --> 00:11:55.907 when the computer was a roomful of equipment. 00:11:56.286 --> 00:12:00.556 Nobody would have thought that such a thing would ever be in our apartments. 00:12:00.556 --> 00:12:04.032 And nowadays we carry the knowledge of 100,000 such devices 00:12:04.032 --> 00:12:06.242 in our pockets or even our watches, 00:12:06.676 --> 00:12:08.718 which are the perfect devices 00:12:08.747 --> 00:12:11.967 to collect and process information about our health. 00:12:12.197 --> 00:12:15.307 Fortunately, the culture of screenings and prevention 00:12:15.307 --> 00:12:17.807 is starting to integrate into our lives in Hungary. 00:12:17.807 --> 00:12:20.501 But, in truth, we aren't ready for it yet 00:12:20.501 --> 00:12:23.504 either in terms of instrumentation or personnel. 00:12:24.540 --> 00:12:28.083 We still need to redesign our financial system, 00:12:28.083 --> 00:12:33.635 supply system, education, but most of all our thinking. 00:12:34.305 --> 00:12:37.112 But until these changes happen, 00:12:37.112 --> 00:12:42.652 we can decide if we want to be passive participants in sick-care, 00:12:43.171 --> 00:12:46.461 and see if we survive the next obstacle, 00:12:46.461 --> 00:12:51.853 or if we take our health and the health of our loved ones into our own hands. 00:12:51.853 --> 00:12:52.906 Thank you. 00:12:52.925 --> 00:12:54.092 (Applause)