WEBVTT 00:00:01.037 --> 00:00:04.682 Alec Soth: So about 10 years ago, I got a call from a woman in Texas, 00:00:04.682 --> 00:00:06.354 Stacey Baker, 00:00:06.354 --> 00:00:10.116 and she'd seen some of my photographs in an art exhibition 00:00:10.116 --> 00:00:14.852 and was wondering if she could commission me to take a portrait of her parents. 00:00:15.892 --> 00:00:19.335 Now, at the time I hadn't met Stacey, and I thought this was some sort of 00:00:19.335 --> 00:00:23.367 wealthy oil tycoon and I'd struck it rich, 00:00:23.367 --> 00:00:25.242 but it was only later that I found out 00:00:25.242 --> 00:00:28.449 she'd actually taken out a loan to make this happen. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:29.409 --> 00:00:31.076 I took the picture of her parents, 00:00:31.076 --> 00:00:35.074 but I was actually more excited about photographing Stacey. 00:00:35.074 --> 00:00:36.832 The picture I made that day 00:00:36.832 --> 00:00:39.946 ended up becoming one of my best-known portraits. 00:00:41.566 --> 00:00:45.031 At the time I made this picture, Stacey was working as an attorney 00:00:45.031 --> 00:00:46.686 for the State of Texas. 00:00:46.686 --> 00:00:51.386 Not long after, she left her job to study photography in Maine, 00:00:51.386 --> 00:00:53.651 and while she was there, she ended up meeting 00:00:53.651 --> 00:00:56.786 the director of photography at the New York Times Magazine 00:00:56.786 --> 00:01:00.153 and was actually offered a job. 00:01:00.153 --> 00:01:02.982 Stacey Baker: In the years since, Alec and I have done 00:01:02.982 --> 00:01:05.214 a number of magazine projects together, 00:01:05.214 --> 00:01:07.165 and we've become friends. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:07.165 --> 00:01:11.948 A few months ago, I started talking to Alec about a fascination of mine. 00:01:11.948 --> 00:01:15.338 I've always been obsessed with how couples meet. 00:01:15.338 --> 00:01:18.310 I asked Alec how he and his wife Rachel met, 00:01:18.310 --> 00:01:21.166 and he told me the story of a high school football game 00:01:21.166 --> 00:01:24.091 where she was 16 and he was 15, 00:01:24.091 --> 00:01:26.181 and he asked her out. 00:01:26.181 --> 00:01:28.015 He liked her purple hair. 00:01:28.015 --> 00:01:31.173 She said yes, and that was it. 00:01:31.173 --> 00:01:35.469 I then asked Alec if he'd be interested in doing a photography project 00:01:35.469 --> 00:01:37.280 exploring this question. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:41.320 AS: And I was interested in the question, but I was actually much more interested 00:01:41.320 --> 00:01:44.796 in Stacey's motivation for asking it, 00:01:44.796 --> 00:01:48.727 particularly since I'd never known Stacey to have a boyfriend. 00:01:48.727 --> 00:01:51.513 So as part of this project, I thought it'd be interesting 00:01:51.513 --> 00:01:53.626 if she tried to meet someone. 00:01:53.626 --> 00:01:58.471 So my idea was to have Stacey here go speed dating 00:01:58.471 --> 00:02:02.542 in Las Vegas on Valentine's Day. 00:02:02.542 --> 00:02:08.463 (Laughter) (Applause) (Music) NOTE Paragraph 00:02:08.463 --> 00:02:13.664 SB: We ended up at what was advertised as the world's largest speed dating event. 00:02:13.664 --> 00:02:15.684 I had 19 dates 00:02:15.684 --> 00:02:18.679 and each date lasted three minutes. 00:02:18.679 --> 00:02:22.616 Participants were given a list of ice- breaker questions to get the ball rolling, 00:02:22.616 --> 00:02:26.563 things like, "If you could be any kind of animal, what would you be?" 00:02:26.563 --> 00:02:28.444 That sort of thing. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:28.444 --> 00:02:30.858 My first date was Colin. 00:02:30.858 --> 00:02:32.669 He's from England, 00:02:32.669 --> 00:02:37.824 and he once married a woman he met after placing an ad for a Capricorn. 00:02:37.824 --> 00:02:40.169 Alec and I saw him at the end of the evening, 00:02:40.169 --> 00:02:45.092 and he said he'd kissed a woman in line at one of the concession stands. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:45.092 --> 00:02:48.398 Zack and Chris came to the date-a-thon together. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:50.838 --> 00:02:53.239 This is Carl. 00:02:53.239 --> 00:02:58.663 I asked Carl, "What's the first thing you notice about a woman?" 00:02:58.663 --> 00:03:00.753 He said, "Tits." 00:03:00.753 --> 00:03:03.190 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:03:05.350 --> 00:03:08.554 Matthew is attracted to women with muscular calves. 00:03:08.554 --> 00:03:12.385 We talked about running. He does triathlons, I run half-marathons. 00:03:12.385 --> 00:03:17.238 Alec actually liked his eyes and asked if I was attracted to him, but I wasn't, 00:03:17.238 --> 00:03:20.219 and I don't think he was attracted to me either. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:21.349 --> 00:03:24.715 Austin and Mike came together. 00:03:24.715 --> 00:03:27.338 Mike asked me a hypothetical question. 00:03:27.338 --> 00:03:31.959 He said, "You're in an elevator running late for a meeting. 00:03:31.959 --> 00:03:34.397 Someone makes a dash for the elevator. 00:03:34.397 --> 00:03:37.346 Do you hold it open for them?" 00:03:37.346 --> 00:03:39.343 And I said I would not. 00:03:39.343 --> 00:03:41.926 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:03:43.766 --> 00:03:47.818 Cliff said the first thing he notices about a woman is her teeth, 00:03:47.818 --> 00:03:50.813 and we complimented each other's teeth. 00:03:50.813 --> 00:03:53.181 Because he's an open mouth sleeper, 00:03:53.181 --> 00:03:57.384 he says he has to floss more to help prevent gum disease, 00:03:57.384 --> 00:03:59.799 and so I asked him how often he flosses, 00:03:59.799 --> 00:04:02.399 and he said, "Every other day." 00:04:02.399 --> 00:04:04.214 (Laughter) 00:04:05.534 --> 00:04:07.972 Now, as someone who flosses twice a day, 00:04:07.972 --> 00:04:10.372 I wasn't really sure that that was flossing more 00:04:10.372 --> 00:04:12.894 but I don't think I said that out loud. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:12.894 --> 00:04:15.936 Bill is an auditor, 00:04:15.936 --> 00:04:21.419 and we talked the entire three minutes about auditing. (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:04:22.669 --> 00:04:26.640 The first thing Spencer notices about a woman is her complexion. 00:04:26.640 --> 00:04:29.333 He feels a lot of women wear too much makeup, 00:04:29.333 --> 00:04:33.164 and that they should only wear enough to accentuate the features that they have. 00:04:33.164 --> 00:04:35.231 I told him I didn't wear any makeup at all 00:04:35.231 --> 00:04:38.249 and he seemed to think that that was a good thing. 00:04:39.317 --> 00:04:43.404 Craig told me he didn't think I was willing to be vulnerable. 00:04:43.404 --> 00:04:48.466 He was also frustrated when I couldn't remember my most embarrassing moment. 00:04:48.466 --> 00:04:50.768 He thought I was lying, but I wasn't. 00:04:50.768 --> 00:04:53.852 I didn't think he liked me at all, but at the end of the night, 00:04:53.852 --> 00:04:57.173 he came back to me and he gave me a box of chocolates. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:57.846 --> 00:05:00.540 William was really difficult to talk to. 00:05:00.540 --> 00:05:02.676 I think he was drunk. 00:05:02.676 --> 00:05:05.111 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:05.601 --> 00:05:08.875 Actor Chris McKenna was the MC of the event. 00:05:08.875 --> 00:05:11.336 He used to be on "The Young and the Restless." 00:05:11.336 --> 00:05:14.076 I didn't actually go on a date with him. 00:05:14.076 --> 00:05:17.621 Alec said he saw several women give their phone numbers to him. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:18.791 --> 00:05:23.620 Needless to say, I didn't fall in love. 00:05:23.620 --> 00:05:27.614 I didn't feel a particular connection with any of the men that I went on dates with, 00:05:27.614 --> 00:05:32.262 and I didn't feel like they felt a particular connection with me either. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:33.302 --> 00:05:36.043 AS: Now, the most beautiful thing to me -- 00:05:36.043 --> 00:05:41.626 (Laughter) -- as a photographer is the quality of vulnerability. 00:05:41.626 --> 00:05:45.330 The physical exterior reveals a crack in which you can get a glimpse 00:05:45.330 --> 00:05:48.511 at a more fragile interior. 00:05:48.511 --> 00:05:51.878 At this date-a-thon event, I saw so many examples of that, 00:05:51.878 --> 00:05:56.499 but as I watched Stacey's dates and talked to her about them, 00:05:56.499 --> 00:06:02.512 I realized how different photographic love is from real love. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:02.512 --> 00:06:06.162 What is real love? How does it work? 00:06:06.162 --> 00:06:10.504 In order to work on this question and to figure out how someone goes 00:06:10.504 --> 00:06:15.078 from meeting on a date to having a life together, 00:06:15.078 --> 00:06:17.632 Stacey and I went to Sun City Summerlin, 00:06:17.632 --> 00:06:21.769 which is the largest retirement community in Las Vegas. 00:06:23.019 --> 00:06:27.638 Our contact there was George, who runs the community's photography club. 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:32.447 He arranged for us to meet other couples in their makeshift photo studio. 00:06:32.447 --> 00:06:37.515 SB: After 45 years of marriage, Anastasia's husband died two years ago, NOTE Paragraph 00:06:37.515 --> 00:06:40.667 so we asked if she had an old wedding picture. 00:06:40.667 --> 00:06:44.080 She met her husband when she was a 15-year-old waitress 00:06:44.080 --> 00:06:46.565 at a small barbecue place in Michigan. 00:06:46.565 --> 00:06:48.237 He was 30. 00:06:48.237 --> 00:06:50.512 She'd lied about her age. 00:06:50.512 --> 00:06:53.321 He was the first person she'd dated. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:53.321 --> 00:06:57.780 Dean had been named photographer of the year in Las Vegas two years in a row, 00:06:57.780 --> 00:06:59.660 and this caught Alec's attention, 00:06:59.660 --> 00:07:02.238 as did the fact that he met his wife, Judy, 00:07:02.238 --> 00:07:05.767 at the same age when Alec met Rachel. 00:07:05.767 --> 00:07:08.739 Dean admitted that he likes to look at beautiful women, 00:07:08.739 --> 00:07:12.686 but he's never questioned his decision to marry Judy. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:12.686 --> 00:07:15.054 AS: George met Josephine at a parish dance. 00:07:15.054 --> 00:07:17.562 He was 18, she was 15. 00:07:17.562 --> 00:07:21.115 Like a lot of the couples we met, they weren't especially philosophical 00:07:21.115 --> 00:07:23.460 about their early choices. 00:07:23.460 --> 00:07:26.041 George said something that really stuck with me. 00:07:26.041 --> 00:07:31.565 He said, "When you get that feeling, you just go with it." NOTE Paragraph 00:07:34.142 --> 00:07:37.675 Bob and Trudy met on a blind date when she was still in high school. 00:07:37.675 --> 00:07:40.445 They said they weren't particularly attracted to each other 00:07:40.445 --> 00:07:41.865 when the first met. 00:07:41.865 --> 00:07:44.543 Nevertheless, they were married soon after. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:45.113 --> 00:07:47.528 SB: The story that stayed with me the most 00:07:47.528 --> 00:07:52.265 was that of George, the photography club president, and his wife, Mary. 00:07:52.265 --> 00:07:55.655 This was George and Mary's second marriage. 00:07:55.655 --> 00:08:00.345 They met at a country-western club in Louisville, Kentucky called the Sahara. 00:08:00.345 --> 00:08:04.083 He was there alone drinking and she was with friends. 00:08:04.083 --> 00:08:09.795 When they started dating, he owed the IRS 9,000 dollars in taxes, 00:08:09.795 --> 00:08:12.326 and she offered to help him get out of debt, 00:08:12.326 --> 00:08:16.296 so for the next year, he turned his paychecks over to Mary, 00:08:16.296 --> 00:08:18.804 and she got him out of debt. 00:08:18.804 --> 00:08:23.239 George was actually an alcoholic when they married, and Mary knew it. 00:08:23.239 --> 00:08:26.072 At some point in their marriage, he says he consumed 00:08:26.072 --> 00:08:29.601 54 beers in one day. 00:08:29.601 --> 00:08:32.434 Another time, when he was drunk, he threatened to kill Mary 00:08:32.434 --> 00:08:33.966 and her two kids, 00:08:33.966 --> 00:08:38.412 but they escaped and a SWAT team was called to the house. 00:08:38.412 --> 00:08:40.583 Amazingly, Mary took him back, 00:08:40.583 --> 00:08:42.905 and eventually things got better. 00:08:42.905 --> 00:08:45.761 George has been involved in Alcoholics Anonymous 00:08:45.761 --> 00:08:48.664 and hasn't had a drink in 36 years. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:48.664 --> 00:08:49.778 (Music) NOTE Paragraph 00:08:49.778 --> 00:08:52.125 At the end of the day, after we left Sun City, 00:08:52.125 --> 00:08:54.539 I told Alec that I didn't actually think 00:08:54.539 --> 00:08:58.672 that the stories of how these couples met were all that interesting. 00:08:58.672 --> 00:09:00.878 What was more interesting 00:09:00.878 --> 00:09:04.593 was how they managed to stay together. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:04.593 --> 00:09:08.773 AS: They all had this beautiful quality of endurance, 00:09:08.773 --> 00:09:11.048 but that was true of the singles, too. 00:09:11.048 --> 00:09:14.856 The world is hard, and the singles were out there 00:09:14.856 --> 00:09:17.201 trying to connect with other people, 00:09:17.201 --> 00:09:19.825 and the couples were holding onto each other 00:09:19.825 --> 00:09:21.592 after all these decades. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:23.842 --> 00:09:27.151 My favorite pictures on this trip were of Joe and Roseanne. 00:09:27.151 --> 00:09:29.395 Now, by the time we met Joe and Roseanne, 00:09:29.395 --> 00:09:34.906 we'd gotten in the habit of asking couples if they had an old wedding photograph. 00:09:34.906 --> 00:09:39.712 In their case, they simultaneously pulled out of their wallets 00:09:39.712 --> 00:09:44.008 the exact same photograph. 00:09:44.008 --> 00:09:47.142 What's more beautiful, I thought to myself, 00:09:47.142 --> 00:09:51.438 this image of a young couple who has just fallen in love 00:09:51.438 --> 00:09:56.644 or the idea of these two people holding onto this image for decades? NOTE Paragraph 00:09:58.264 --> 00:10:00.122 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:00.122 --> 00:10:05.532 (Applause)