1 00:00:01,037 --> 00:00:04,682 Alec Soth: So about 10 years ago, I got a call from a woman in Texas, 2 00:00:04,682 --> 00:00:06,354 Stacey Baker, 3 00:00:06,354 --> 00:00:10,116 and she'd seen some of my photographs in an art exhibition 4 00:00:10,116 --> 00:00:14,852 and was wondering if she could commission me to take a portrait of her parents. 5 00:00:15,892 --> 00:00:19,335 Now, at the time I hadn't met Stacey, and I thought this was some sort of 6 00:00:19,335 --> 00:00:23,367 wealthy oil tycoon and I'd struck it rich, 7 00:00:23,367 --> 00:00:25,242 but it was only later that I found out 8 00:00:25,242 --> 00:00:28,449 she'd actually taken out a loan to make this happen. 9 00:00:29,409 --> 00:00:31,076 I took the picture of her parents, 10 00:00:31,076 --> 00:00:35,074 but I was actually more excited about photographing Stacey. 11 00:00:35,074 --> 00:00:36,832 The picture I made that day 12 00:00:36,832 --> 00:00:39,946 ended up becoming one of my best-known portraits. 13 00:00:41,566 --> 00:00:45,031 At the time I made this picture, Stacey was working as an attorney 14 00:00:45,031 --> 00:00:46,686 for the State of Texas. 15 00:00:46,686 --> 00:00:51,386 Not long after, she left her job to study photography in Maine, 16 00:00:51,386 --> 00:00:53,651 and while she was there, she ended up meeting 17 00:00:53,651 --> 00:00:56,786 the director of photography at the New York Times Magazine 18 00:00:56,786 --> 00:01:00,153 and was actually offered a job. 19 00:01:00,153 --> 00:01:02,982 Stacey Baker: In the years since, Alec and I have done 20 00:01:02,982 --> 00:01:05,214 a number of magazine projects together, 21 00:01:05,214 --> 00:01:07,165 and we've become friends. 22 00:01:07,165 --> 00:01:11,948 A few months ago, I started talking to Alec about a fascination of mine. 23 00:01:11,948 --> 00:01:15,338 I've always been obsessed with how couples meet. 24 00:01:15,338 --> 00:01:18,310 I asked Alec how he and his wife Rachel met, 25 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:21,166 and he told me the story of a high school football game 26 00:01:21,166 --> 00:01:24,091 where she was 16 and he was 15, 27 00:01:24,091 --> 00:01:26,181 and he asked her out. 28 00:01:26,181 --> 00:01:28,015 He liked her purple hair. 29 00:01:28,015 --> 00:01:31,173 She said yes, and that was it. 30 00:01:31,173 --> 00:01:35,469 I then asked Alec if he'd be interested in doing a photography project 31 00:01:35,469 --> 00:01:37,280 exploring this question. 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,320 AS: And I was interested in the question, but I was actually much more interested 33 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:44,796 in Stacey's motivation for asking it, 34 00:01:44,796 --> 00:01:48,727 particularly since I'd never known Stacey to have a boyfriend. 35 00:01:48,727 --> 00:01:51,513 So as part of this project, I thought it'd be interesting 36 00:01:51,513 --> 00:01:53,626 if she tried to meet someone. 37 00:01:53,626 --> 00:01:58,471 So my idea was to have Stacey here go speed dating 38 00:01:58,471 --> 00:02:02,542 in Las Vegas on Valentine's Day. 39 00:02:02,542 --> 00:02:08,463 (Laughter) (Applause) (Music) 40 00:02:08,463 --> 00:02:13,664 SB: We ended up at what was advertised as the world's largest speed dating event. 41 00:02:13,664 --> 00:02:15,684 I had 19 dates 42 00:02:15,684 --> 00:02:18,679 and each date lasted three minutes. 43 00:02:18,679 --> 00:02:22,616 Participants were given a list of ice- breaker questions to get the ball rolling, 44 00:02:22,616 --> 00:02:26,563 things like, "If you could be any kind of animal, what would you be?" 45 00:02:26,563 --> 00:02:28,444 That sort of thing. 46 00:02:28,444 --> 00:02:30,858 My first date was Colin. 47 00:02:30,858 --> 00:02:32,669 He's from England, 48 00:02:32,669 --> 00:02:37,824 and he once married a woman he met after placing an ad for a Capricorn. 49 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:40,169 Alec and I saw him at the end of the evening, 50 00:02:40,169 --> 00:02:45,092 and he said he'd kissed a woman in line at one of the concession stands. 51 00:02:45,092 --> 00:02:48,398 Zack and Chris came to the date-a-thon together. 52 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:53,239 This is Carl. 53 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:58,663 I asked Carl, "What's the first thing you notice about a woman?" 54 00:02:58,663 --> 00:03:00,753 He said, "Tits." 55 00:03:00,753 --> 00:03:03,190 (Laughter) 56 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:08,554 Matthew is attracted to women with muscular calves. 57 00:03:08,554 --> 00:03:12,385 We talked about running. He does triathlons, I run half-marathons. 58 00:03:12,385 --> 00:03:17,238 Alec actually liked his eyes and asked if I was attracted to him, but I wasn't, 59 00:03:17,238 --> 00:03:20,219 and I don't think he was attracted to me either. 60 00:03:21,349 --> 00:03:24,715 Austin and Mike came together. 61 00:03:24,715 --> 00:03:27,338 Mike asked me a hypothetical question. 62 00:03:27,338 --> 00:03:31,959 He said, "You're in an elevator running late for a meeting. 63 00:03:31,959 --> 00:03:34,397 Someone makes a dash for the elevator. 64 00:03:34,397 --> 00:03:37,346 Do you hold it open for them?" 65 00:03:37,346 --> 00:03:39,343 And I said I would not. 66 00:03:39,343 --> 00:03:41,926 (Laughter) 67 00:03:43,766 --> 00:03:47,818 Cliff said the first thing he notices about a woman is her teeth, 68 00:03:47,818 --> 00:03:50,813 and we complimented each other's teeth. 69 00:03:50,813 --> 00:03:53,181 Because he's an open mouth sleeper, 70 00:03:53,181 --> 00:03:57,384 he says he has to floss more to help prevent gum disease, 71 00:03:57,384 --> 00:03:59,799 and so I asked him how often he flosses, 72 00:03:59,799 --> 00:04:02,399 and he said, "Every other day." 73 00:04:02,399 --> 00:04:04,214 (Laughter) 74 00:04:05,534 --> 00:04:07,972 Now, as someone who flosses twice a day, 75 00:04:07,972 --> 00:04:10,372 I wasn't really sure that that was flossing more 76 00:04:10,372 --> 00:04:12,894 but I don't think I said that out loud. 77 00:04:12,894 --> 00:04:15,936 Bill is an auditor, 78 00:04:15,936 --> 00:04:21,419 and we talked the entire three minutes about auditing. (Laughter) 79 00:04:22,669 --> 00:04:26,640 The first thing Spencer notices about a woman is her complexion. 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,333 He feels a lot of women wear too much makeup, 81 00:04:29,333 --> 00:04:33,164 and that they should only wear enough to accentuate the features that they have. 82 00:04:33,164 --> 00:04:35,231 I told him I didn't wear any makeup at all 83 00:04:35,231 --> 00:04:38,249 and he seemed to think that that was a good thing. 84 00:04:39,317 --> 00:04:43,404 Craig told me he didn't think I was willing to be vulnerable. 85 00:04:43,404 --> 00:04:48,466 He was also frustrated when I couldn't remember my most embarrassing moment. 86 00:04:48,466 --> 00:04:50,768 He thought I was lying, but I wasn't. 87 00:04:50,768 --> 00:04:53,852 I didn't think he liked me at all, but at the end of the night, 88 00:04:53,852 --> 00:04:57,173 he came back to me and he gave me a box of chocolates. 89 00:04:57,846 --> 00:05:00,540 William was really difficult to talk to. 90 00:05:00,540 --> 00:05:02,676 I think he was drunk. 91 00:05:02,676 --> 00:05:05,111 (Laughter) 92 00:05:05,601 --> 00:05:08,875 Actor Chris McKenna was the MC of the event. 93 00:05:08,875 --> 00:05:11,336 He used to be on "The Young and the Restless." 94 00:05:11,336 --> 00:05:14,076 I didn't actually go on a date with him. 95 00:05:14,076 --> 00:05:17,621 Alec said he saw several women give their phone numbers to him. 96 00:05:18,791 --> 00:05:23,620 Needless to say, I didn't fall in love. 97 00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:27,614 I didn't feel a particular connection with any of the men that I went on dates with, 98 00:05:27,614 --> 00:05:32,262 and I didn't feel like they felt a particular connection with me either. 99 00:05:33,302 --> 00:05:36,043 AS: Now, the most beautiful thing to me -- 100 00:05:36,043 --> 00:05:41,626 (Laughter) -- as a photographer is the quality of vulnerability. 101 00:05:41,626 --> 00:05:45,330 The physical exterior reveals a crack in which you can get a glimpse 102 00:05:45,330 --> 00:05:48,511 at a more fragile interior. 103 00:05:48,511 --> 00:05:51,878 At this date-a-thon event, I saw so many examples of that, 104 00:05:51,878 --> 00:05:56,499 but as I watched Stacey's dates and talked to her about them, 105 00:05:56,499 --> 00:06:02,512 I realized how different photographic love is from real love. 106 00:06:02,512 --> 00:06:06,162 What is real love? How does it work? 107 00:06:06,162 --> 00:06:10,504 In order to work on this question and to figure out how someone goes 108 00:06:10,504 --> 00:06:15,078 from meeting on a date to having a life together, 109 00:06:15,078 --> 00:06:17,632 Stacey and I went to Sun City Summerlin, 110 00:06:17,632 --> 00:06:21,769 which is the largest retirement community in Las Vegas. 111 00:06:23,019 --> 00:06:27,638 Our contact there was George, who runs the community's photography club. 112 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:32,447 He arranged for us to meet other couples in their makeshift photo studio. 113 00:06:32,447 --> 00:06:37,515 SB: After 45 years of marriage, Anastasia's husband died two years ago, 114 00:06:37,515 --> 00:06:40,667 so we asked if she had an old wedding picture. 115 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:44,080 She met her husband when she was a 15-year-old waitress 116 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,565 at a small barbecue place in Michigan. 117 00:06:46,565 --> 00:06:48,237 He was 30. 118 00:06:48,237 --> 00:06:50,512 She'd lied about her age. 119 00:06:50,512 --> 00:06:53,321 He was the first person she'd dated. 120 00:06:53,321 --> 00:06:57,780 Dean had been named photographer of the year in Las Vegas two years in a row, 121 00:06:57,780 --> 00:06:59,660 and this caught Alec's attention, 122 00:06:59,660 --> 00:07:02,238 as did the fact that he met his wife, Judy, 123 00:07:02,238 --> 00:07:05,767 at the same age when Alec met Rachel. 124 00:07:05,767 --> 00:07:08,739 Dean admitted that he likes to look at beautiful women, 125 00:07:08,739 --> 00:07:12,686 but he's never questioned his decision to marry Judy. 126 00:07:12,686 --> 00:07:15,054 AS: George met Josephine at a parish dance. 127 00:07:15,054 --> 00:07:17,562 He was 18, she was 15. 128 00:07:17,562 --> 00:07:21,115 Like a lot of the couples we met, they weren't especially philosophical 129 00:07:21,115 --> 00:07:23,460 about their early choices. 130 00:07:23,460 --> 00:07:26,041 George said something that really stuck with me. 131 00:07:26,041 --> 00:07:31,565 He said, "When you get that feeling, you just go with it." 132 00:07:34,142 --> 00:07:37,675 Bob and Trudy met on a blind date when she was still in high school. 133 00:07:37,675 --> 00:07:40,445 They said they weren't particularly attracted to each other 134 00:07:40,445 --> 00:07:41,865 when the first met. 135 00:07:41,865 --> 00:07:44,543 Nevertheless, they were married soon after. 136 00:07:45,113 --> 00:07:47,528 SB: The story that stayed with me the most 137 00:07:47,528 --> 00:07:52,265 was that of George, the photography club president, and his wife, Mary. 138 00:07:52,265 --> 00:07:55,655 This was George and Mary's second marriage. 139 00:07:55,655 --> 00:08:00,345 They met at a country-western club in Louisville, Kentucky called the Sahara. 140 00:08:00,345 --> 00:08:04,083 He was there alone drinking and she was with friends. 141 00:08:04,083 --> 00:08:09,795 When they started dating, he owed the IRS 9,000 dollars in taxes, 142 00:08:09,795 --> 00:08:12,326 and she offered to help him get out of debt, 143 00:08:12,326 --> 00:08:16,296 so for the next year, he turned his paychecks over to Mary, 144 00:08:16,296 --> 00:08:18,804 and she got him out of debt. 145 00:08:18,804 --> 00:08:23,239 George was actually an alcoholic when they married, and Mary knew it. 146 00:08:23,239 --> 00:08:26,072 At some point in their marriage, he says he consumed 147 00:08:26,072 --> 00:08:29,601 54 beers in one day. 148 00:08:29,601 --> 00:08:32,434 Another time, when he was drunk, he threatened to kill Mary 149 00:08:32,434 --> 00:08:33,966 and her two kids, 150 00:08:33,966 --> 00:08:38,412 but they escaped and a SWAT team was called to the house. 151 00:08:38,412 --> 00:08:40,583 Amazingly, Mary took him back, 152 00:08:40,583 --> 00:08:42,905 and eventually things got better. 153 00:08:42,905 --> 00:08:45,761 George has been involved in Alcoholics Anonymous 154 00:08:45,761 --> 00:08:48,664 and hasn't had a drink in 36 years. 155 00:08:48,664 --> 00:08:49,778 (Music) 156 00:08:49,778 --> 00:08:52,125 At the end of the day, after we left Sun City, 157 00:08:52,125 --> 00:08:54,539 I told Alec that I didn't actually think 158 00:08:54,539 --> 00:08:58,672 that the stories of how these couples met were all that interesting. 159 00:08:58,672 --> 00:09:00,878 What was more interesting 160 00:09:00,878 --> 00:09:04,593 was how they managed to stay together. 161 00:09:04,593 --> 00:09:08,773 AS: They all had this beautiful quality of endurance, 162 00:09:08,773 --> 00:09:11,048 but that was true of the singles, too. 163 00:09:11,048 --> 00:09:14,856 The world is hard, and the singles were out there 164 00:09:14,856 --> 00:09:17,201 trying to connect with other people, 165 00:09:17,201 --> 00:09:19,825 and the couples were holding onto each other 166 00:09:19,825 --> 00:09:21,592 after all these decades. 167 00:09:23,842 --> 00:09:27,151 My favorite pictures on this trip were of Joe and Roseanne. 168 00:09:27,151 --> 00:09:29,395 Now, by the time we met Joe and Roseanne, 169 00:09:29,395 --> 00:09:34,906 we'd gotten in the habit of asking couples if they had an old wedding photograph. 170 00:09:34,906 --> 00:09:39,712 In their case, they simultaneously pulled out of their wallets 171 00:09:39,712 --> 00:09:44,008 the exact same photograph. 172 00:09:44,008 --> 00:09:47,142 What's more beautiful, I thought to myself, 173 00:09:47,142 --> 00:09:51,438 this image of a young couple who has just fallen in love 174 00:09:51,438 --> 00:09:56,644 or the idea of these two people holding onto this image for decades? 175 00:09:58,264 --> 00:10:00,122 Thank you. 176 00:10:00,122 --> 00:10:05,532 (Applause)