[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.68,0:00:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, I'm Hardy Clark\Nand this is my wife, Karen, Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.73,0:00:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we've been married\Nfor thirteen years. Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.68,0:00:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Race was not really an issue \Nwhen we met. Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.28,0:00:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I had never dated \Nanybody outside Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.95,0:00:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my race before. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.32,0:00:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think he had, \Nbut, like I said, we just Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.70,0:00:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a commonality \Nbetween each other, so. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.50,0:00:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we kinda hid it \Nfor a while. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.12,0:00:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I didn't tell my friends \Ntoo much, Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.63,0:00:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't think he told his. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.86,0:00:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I mean there was \Na small group of common people Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.81,0:00:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we kinda worked with, \Nbut I think for a while Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.99,0:00:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was kinda just us. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.98,0:00:48.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was, it was kinda... Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.43,0:00:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my attitude was, "it's nobodies' \Nbusiness." Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.99,0:00:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Karen) my family did not \Ntake too kindly to me and Hardy Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.77,0:00:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting married. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.75,0:01:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, my mom was livid \Nabout the situation. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.09,0:01:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She actually stopped \Nspeaking to me for a while. Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.87,0:01:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, she didn't come to my wedding. Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.48,0:01:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She just didn't talk to me \Nfor like, about the first year. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.28,0:01:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then. finally- \N(Hardy) -was it that long? Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.67,0:01:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. A year. I remember\Ngoing home for Thanksgiving Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.06,0:01:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was getting off \Nthe plane, Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.50,0:01:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she showed up \Nat the airport with Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.30,0:01:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my sister-in-law, but she \Nrefused to speak to me Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.28,0:01:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she refused to even \Nlook at me. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.10,0:01:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time she addressed me, \Nshe addressed through Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.87,0:01:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my sister-in-law, but she did \Nnot speak to me directly. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.13,0:01:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.10,0:01:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it was a pretty bad \NChristmas at that point. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.65,0:01:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, she might have \Nsaid a few words, Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.10,0:01:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they were always \Nspoke to my sister-in-law, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.98,0:01:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not directly to me. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.87,0:01:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, after a while, \Nshe kind of, um, Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.47,0:01:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, she came around. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.33,0:01:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, she loves him now, \Nbut thirteen years later. Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.87,0:02:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[giggles] Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.30,0:02:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just took a minute. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.86,0:02:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[both chuckle] Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.87,0:02:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Hardy) Karen's mother's actually \Nfrom New Orleans, Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.82,0:02:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we went up to Chicago \Nfor the holidays several years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.72,0:02:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when we got to the house, \Nit was later at night Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.60,0:02:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'd been driving... Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.77,0:02:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was cold outside. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.15,0:02:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we opened up the backdoor,\Nand this strange odor kinda Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.58,0:02:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wafted out the backdoor\Nwhen we opened it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.36,0:02:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was Karen's mom and she \Nhad a big ol' pot of Chitterlings Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.34,0:02:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the stove. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.28,0:02:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Karen laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.72,0:02:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Hardy continues) It was \NChristmas, and there's Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.43,0:02:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Karen's niece, her fiance at the time. Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.59,0:02:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's actually white as well. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.06,0:02:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we both got there, \Nto eat the chitterlings. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.63,0:02:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we uh- we gave them a try. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.73,0:03:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's uh- [both laugh] Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.98,0:03:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't need to try them again. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.14,0:03:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got my fill. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.06,0:03:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Karen) I think dating outside \Nof our race is very hard Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.92,0:03:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the initial differences\Nthat may take place. Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.68,0:03:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There may be things that \NI wanna do that he may Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.32,0:03:20.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not necessarily wanna do, \Nbecause of that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.100,0:03:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, places that he may wanna go\Nthat I don't- all of a sudden feel Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.66,0:03:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,safe, you know, going to. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.23,0:03:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or, you know, I have to think \Ntwice about going to. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.99,0:03:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it does make a difference \Nand into the beginning Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.79,0:03:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're dating, \Nyou do kinda worry what Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.06,0:03:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other people will think. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.65,0:03:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, you may be less \Ninclined, to maybe go out \N Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.40,0:03:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to different places, \Nbecause people stare at you. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.22,0:03:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, wherever you go, \Nand so that makes you Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.90,0:03:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uncomfortable, you know, \Njust for the fact that your Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.18,0:03:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uncomfortable, just going out\Ntogether. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.18,0:03:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then to have people \Nstare at you at that time too, Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.46,0:03:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can make it a little bit more so. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.38,0:04:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I know we probably \Nhad more pizza nights Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.38,0:04:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and movie nights at home \Nthan we did actually going out Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.52,0:04:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.84,0:04:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Hardy) The hardest thing for me\Nanyway, not that it's come to Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.59,0:04:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fruition, but, I think when the \Nkids arrive on scene, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.02,0:04:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just kind of... the fear that \Npossibly... Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.20,0:04:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our relationship, bringing them \Ninto this world may Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.16,0:04:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make life hard for them. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.89,0:04:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In some way, somewhere along \Nthe way, because Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.04,0:04:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're not white, \Nand they're not black. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.24,0:04:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I hope, that the generation that \Nthey're coming up with now, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.58,0:04:43.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is in a better place \Nthan where our peers were Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.77,0:04:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we grew up. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.07,0:04:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my parents, when they \Ngrew up, and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.24,0:04:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope they're in a better place so \Nthey don't have to go through Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.22,0:04:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any of that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.76,0:04:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, i dont know, that's something \Nthat's kinda on my mind Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.77,0:04:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from time to time. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.86,0:04:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Karen) Sydney will say different things \Nto me. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.73,0:05:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says sometimes, how, \Nthey want to put her in a category Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.07,0:05:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whatever, and that's what she'll say. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.61,0:05:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, "well, I don't belong in any\None of those, because I'm both. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.12,0:05:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm glad that I'm both" you know, kind\Nof a thing, and we try to teach Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.93,0:05:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her from both perspectives.\NShe likes the fact Hardy's 100% Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.52,0:05:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Irish, and so she likes the culture \Nof it and everything. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.65,0:05:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, she likes the \NAfrican American part of it too. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.95,0:05:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, she embraces it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.43,0:05:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, Jayce, I don't think \Nhe really gets it too much. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.24,0:05:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's always, like "Well, \Ndaddy's just a lighter shade Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.06,0:05:40.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of brown than the rest of us." Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.30,0:05:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's just kinda how he looks at it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.31,0:05:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Karen speaking) Just the fact \Nthat one person is with somebody Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.14,0:05:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from another race, regardless of \Nwhat it is, I think, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.10,0:05:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ends up kinda being \Na big deal. Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.84,0:05:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know, a lot of times\Nyou just hear different things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.23,0:05:59.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially when there is a \Nblack guy whose dating Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.91,0:06:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a white woman, or\Nyou know, who are married. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.65,0:06:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know there's a lot \Nof stigma I think, that's kinda Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.51,0:06:06.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attached to that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.22,0:06:07.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are people. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.69,0:06:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just doesn't matter what \Nyour race is. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.50,0:06:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's important is the love \Nthat you share for that other person. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.30,0:06:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if they could see that, \Nit's just like "well, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.40,0:06:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that interracial couple loves \Nthe same way that you love yours." Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.75,0:06:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Hardy) It's not that big a deal. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.13,0:06:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean there's more and more \Npeople that are more comfortable Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.17,0:06:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with people of other races. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.43,0:06:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, there's not 100% chance,\Nbut there's a decent chance Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.92,0:06:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you're black and you have \Na black child, \N Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.54,0:06:45.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they may date somebody who's white\Nsomewhere along the way. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.30,0:06:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, if you're white and have a \Nwhite child, they may Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.01,0:06:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,date somebody who's black \Nalong the way. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.60,0:06:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, it's okay. Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.39,0:06:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's uh- thirteen years, \Nand it's a beautiful thing. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.13,0:07:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Relax. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.56,0:07:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Karen laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.86,0:07:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the message.