[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.67,0:00:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm going to talk about the Jhanas. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.50,0:00:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The stages of meditative absorption. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.96,0:00:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to kind of put them in context. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.17,0:00:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these stages of absorption are \Nsomething that come from very Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.17,0:00:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ancient traditions. So this is sort of \Npre sectarian Buddhism Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.96,0:00:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Upanishads you know, \Nlong time ago. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.08,0:01:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a lot of modern Buddhism,\Nis now about insight meditation. Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.62,0:01:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are still people teaching the Jhanas, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.67,0:01:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And often these things \Nare taught separately. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.58,0:01:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As if there are practices for the Jhanas\Nand practices for insight meditation. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.08,0:01:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Practices, for direct inquiry\Nor the non dual practices. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.75,0:01:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I see them all at \Na certain point converging Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.93,0:01:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to kind of point\Nin that direction. Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.08,0:01:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where I'm going in this talk, and\NI want to kind of make it clear that Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.50,0:01:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are all facets of what unfolds,\Nwhen we start to really inquire Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.88,0:01:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or meditate, or whatever you want to call\Nthis process we're engaged in here. Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.19,0:01:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this is part of the landscape\Nor part of the phenomena. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.38,0:02:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm going to go into the \NTheravada sort of framework Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.96,0:02:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Jhanas, just because it's \Nvery thorough and complete. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.04,0:02:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't consider it to be like a map. Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.96,0:02:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't considered to be definitive. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.62,0:02:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People have awakenings without\Nencountering any of this stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.54,0:02:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think it can be helpful\Nfor some people, Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.33,0:02:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when we're really going\Ninto a meditation practice. Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.12,0:02:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the Jhanas are really \Nrelated to practice. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.21,0:02:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So as we're cultivating concentration, \Nattention, equanimity, Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.46,0:02:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are these stages\Nthat seem to unfold. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.58,0:02:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we can also completely\Nforget about all this stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.79,0:03:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as Dogen said, we just sit. \NJust sit and just be Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.08,0:03:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can end up awakening\Nthrough that path as well. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.96,0:03:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So again, it always comes down to this\N'Always being Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.89,0:03:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always becoming Buddha'. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.67,0:03:22.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a developmental process,\Nso it's unfolding through time. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.29,0:03:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's pertaining to the self structure, Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.50,0:03:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but yet we can wake up\Nfrom the self structure at any time. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.83,0:03:34.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So with these Jhanas in our practice, Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.33,0:03:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we cultivate these meditation \Nskills, then we can, Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.58,0:03:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jump into these different stages\Nof absorption more easily. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.21,0:03:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the more advanced\Nwe are in our practice, Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.38,0:03:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the later the stages \Nwe can just jump into. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.83,0:03:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we don't have to go all \Nthrough them in every sit. Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.83,0:04:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are found in all different\Ntraditions. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.50,0:04:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Patanjali talks about these\Nin the Yoga Sutras, Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.10,0:04:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes when people are talking\Nabout stages of samadhi, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.17,0:04:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're talking about the Jhanas, \Nbasically. It's just different terminology Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.54,0:04:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But sometimes Samadhi is used to refer to\Nthe final awakening or the final merging Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.50,0:04:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Savikalpa or a Nirvikalpa. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.38,0:04:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But other times they divide up all these \Ndifferent Samadhis, and when you get Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.50,0:04:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into that, then it's the same as these\Nstages of of Jhanas absorption. Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.12,0:04:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I have Patanjali's teaching here, Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.66,0:04:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even in Christianity, the Christian \Nmystics have call it sometimes Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.60,0:05:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Religious Ecstasies. So there are \Nenergetic unfolding in these Jhanas. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.00,0:05:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you listen or read the works of\NSaint Teresa of Avila or Saint John of Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.20,0:05:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Cross or Saint Francis of Assisi, \Nyou find these Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.33,0:05:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these religious ecstasies\Nas they go deeper into prayer. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.54,0:05:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are these different \Nstages that unfold. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.33,0:05:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they don't all exactly correlate.\NBut you get a sense that Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.92,0:05:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the same landscape,\Nit's the same phenomena unfolding. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.04,0:05:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in Patanjali's teachings, and the\Nlast three limbs of yoga Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.83,0:05:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are essentially what we're doing here in\Nthis retreat. This is called Samyama, Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.50,0:06:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is Dharana, which is concentration\NDhyana, which is the meditation, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.08,0:06:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then Samadhi which is sort of the\Nfruition of that practice. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.64,0:06:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what he says, as we spoke about \Npreviously, Dharana is the Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.63,0:06:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fixing of consciousness on one point,\Nor one region, which is concentration. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.75,0:06:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So focusing on one point. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.50,0:06:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then Dhyana is the continuous flow of\Nattention towards the same point or region Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.83,0:06:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that continuity through time\Nis the attention span. Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.17,0:06:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he says, when the object of\Nmeditation engulfs the meditator appearing Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.75,0:06:59.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the subject, self-awareness is lost.\Nand this is Samadhi. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.75,0:07:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you you become one\Nwith the meditation object. Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.25,0:07:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So your your concentration and attention Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.38,0:07:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes so focused, so single\Npointed, that the distinguishing, Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.07,0:07:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between subject and object falls away.\NThat duality falls away. Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.12,0:07:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's just the breath, \Nand it's you essentially Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.25,0:07:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or there's just whatever that \Nmeditation object is. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.88,0:07:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is pointing towards the Jhanas,\Nthis absorption, meditative absorption, Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.58,0:07:44.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you becoming absorbed\Nin the meditation object. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.33,0:07:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first Jhana is... Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.62,0:07:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, we start out in meditation\Nand we have the monkey mind, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.08,0:07:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's busy, and we have these \Nhindrances that are coming up, Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.99,0:08:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we've been talking about. Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.17,0:08:07.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the first, Jhana, is when that \Nmonkey mind is settling down, Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.79,0:08:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hindrances are not a problem anymore.\NWe sort of move beyond the hindrances. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.96,0:08:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're not necessarily continuously Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.38,0:08:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,present with the meditation object, but\Nwe're starting to really stick with it. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.92,0:08:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the monkey mind is settled down, Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.42,0:08:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're generally \Nstaying with the object. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.92,0:08:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's at this point, still \Nthoughts arising from time to time, Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.42,0:08:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But generally you're you're doing \Nsomething that really looks Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.49,0:08:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like meditation at this point.\NYou're actually sticking with it. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.80,0:09:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so there's what they call Piti, in \NPali, starts to arise, which is an energy Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.71,0:09:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the energy that was going into these\Nold patterns starts to become present. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.46,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's this feeling of of energy\Nand a generally feels good. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.21,0:09:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's it's a good feeling at this point. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.15,0:09:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we start to go deeper and so the\NDukkah at the beginning, Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.53,0:09:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that unsatisfactoryness, because of the\Nhindrances, is starting to fall away. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.75,0:09:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then this satisfactoryness starts to\Ngrow. So this is called Sukha. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.50,0:09:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have Dukkha and Sukha. So this \NSukha also sort of comes and goes as well. Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.83,0:09:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes it'll be there,\Nsometimes it isn't there. Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.17,0:09:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this is a really important point. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.83,0:09:59.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people really stall out,\Nthey get what Shinzen Young calls Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.56,0:10:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Stuck in a good place'. Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.14,0:10:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is this satisfactoryness that comes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.50,0:10:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happens is we can start to play \Nthis game of sensation. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.96,0:10:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So so with the hindrances, \Nwe can learn to surrender. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.04,0:10:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're not labeling our pain \Nas pain anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.79,0:10:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're just, being equanimous with what is. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.38,0:10:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we find that it produces\Nthis kind of bliss or satisfactoryness. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.38,0:10:44.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we can start seeking that. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.71,0:10:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the so the good blissful feelings \Nwill be there and then they'll subside, Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.87,0:10:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we'll be craving\Nto get them back again. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.71,0:11:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, there's this game of sensation. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.25,0:11:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's this subtle seeking in the mind\Nof wanting that state or that bliss. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.17,0:11:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't progress beyond the second Jana Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.71,0:11:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until we really have no preference \Ntowards that Sukah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.71,0:11:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until we're willing to let \Nthat phenomena come and go. Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.88,0:11:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, even that bliss that is born out \Nof progress in our meditation, Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.88,0:11:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're really surrendering, if that's \Ncoming, can just become Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.36,0:11:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another prison or another attachment. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.46,0:11:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have to even let that go. Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.58,0:11:53.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the next stage, the third stage,\Nis really being equanimous. Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.29,0:11:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're really being sort of grounded\Nin equanimity, Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.33,0:12:03.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having no preference of any phenomena\Nthat's coming and going. Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.38,0:12:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's with this equanimity, if we \Ncan really be okay with whatever Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.25,0:12:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is coming up in our practice,\Nthis equanimity kind of goes hand in hand Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.33,0:12:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the next thing that arises, \Nand that is true single pointedness. Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.96,0:12:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the true single pointedness, where\Nyou're really there continuously Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.41,0:12:35.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your meditation objects.\NSo there's there's no more break. Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.46,0:12:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's like what Patanjali was talking\Nabout, that continuous attention Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.83,0:12:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that leads to Samadhi. Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.58,0:12:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that will lead into the fourth Jhana,\Nwhich it's sort of characterized Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.92,0:12:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by this feeling that you \Ncan meditate forever. Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.88,0:13:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's just this feeling that \Nthere's, total focus, total presence, Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.46,0:13:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just this this energy is present, \Nbecause the energy now Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.26,0:13:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is single pointed, or \Nthe focus is single pointed. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.33,0:13:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that energy, all of that energy that's\Nnormally going into the conditioned mind Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.08,0:13:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes present and it somehow supports\Nthis single pointed presence Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.22,0:13:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your meditation object. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.33,0:13:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the point at which that\Nthat merging starts to happen Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.75,0:13:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that Samadhi state happens. Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.83,0:13:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm going to read, Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.00,0:13:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is from the Buddha himself. Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.79,0:14:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is on his night of enlightenment,\Nand he's he's talking about the Jhanas. Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.29,0:14:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's talking about how he's going \Ninto the Jhanas. Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.83,0:14:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he's at this point where he says Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.54,0:14:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Tireless energy was aroused in me, and\Nunrelenting mindfulness was established. Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.25,0:14:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My body was tranquil and untroubled,\Nmy mind concentrated and unified, Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.54,0:14:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite secluded from central pleasures,\Nsecluded from unwholesome states. Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.50,0:14:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I entered upon, and abided in the first \NJhana, the second Jhana, the third Jhana, Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.74,0:14:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fourth, and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.17,0:14:51.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he talks about how .... \NThis is his big sitting under the bodhi tree, Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.09,0:14:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really going for it. He had that\Nabsolute determination. Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.83,0:15:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the story goes that he\Ndecided he was he was going to sit Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.43,0:15:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under that tree, until he got to the truth. Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.76,0:15:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever happened,, he was going \Nto be unrelenting in that. Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.33,0:15:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What really stands out to me is, you know,\Nunrelenting mindfulness was established, Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.88,0:15:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tireless energy was aroused.\NSo this is the Jhanas. Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.71,0:15:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So as we go deeper in our practice,\Nwe have these capabilities, Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.50,0:15:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the attention, concentration, equanimity,\Nthese literally get wired into this avatar Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.96,0:16:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like our baseline of meditative\Ncapacity just gets increased Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.31,0:16:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we progress through the Jhanas. Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.96,0:16:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of the things that is described in\Nthe teachings of the mystics Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.50,0:16:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is , as we progress on the path, at every\Nstage there's this sort of dropping off Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.38,0:16:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of mind, and there's an increase in \Nthe benefit of that dropping off. Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.96,0:16:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we go deeper into these feelings\Nof joy or energy or ecstasy, rapture. Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.67,0:16:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the deeper we go, the more beautiful\Nthese experiences are. Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.79,0:16:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And simultaneously, the more sticky\Nthey are, because, XXXXXX Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.75,0:16:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the more beautiful,\Nlike when the real rapture Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.50,0:17:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starts to come, you know, the\Nthese non dual experiences of, Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.38,0:17:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of being one with God, you know, these, Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.21,0:17:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are everything in our being wants\Nto stay there. Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.54,0:17:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so to be a quantum us with that as a Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.00,0:17:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a temporary state is Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.12,0:17:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is challenging\Nit's it's very challenging. So, Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.33,0:17:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's like the Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.54,0:17:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stakes get higher\Nas we as we go further with the dryness. Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.46,0:17:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It gets, it gets very Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.38,0:17:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult for the mind to not be attached. Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.33,0:17:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So indirect inquiry, you know, we Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.79,0:17:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, we intend to directly experience\Nour true nature. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.12,0:17:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're not\Nyou know, it's always in the now we're not Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.38,0:17:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not progressing\Nthrough these these different stages. Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.71,0:17:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And and when we awaken, you know,\Nwe we find, Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.17,0:18:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, a peace and a joy and happiness Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.04,0:18:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not contingent on\Nanything on anything external. Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.58,0:18:11.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So and so in all of these genres, Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.54,0:18:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the experiences that come and go Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.12,0:18:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are temporary. Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.46,0:18:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, they're all contingent on, Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.29,0:18:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, this this Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.75,0:18:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practice that we're doing, you know, this Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.00,0:18:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,letting go and this dropping off of mind. Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.79,0:18:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But eventually,\Nyou know, when we when we go Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.46,0:18:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the end of Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.33,0:18:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the john, as you know, like\Nthe first for John is are Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.08,0:18:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they call the material genres, Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.54,0:18:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are pretty equivalent\Nto the Salva culpa. Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.83,0:18:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody you know, sometimes it's called Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.12,0:18:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody with a seed. Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.04,0:18:58.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's a seed of of form, Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.12,0:19:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a seed of pattern there. Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.00,0:19:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So so it's temporary. Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.50,0:19:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's, you know,\Nthe pattern will grow back. Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.25,0:19:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, the seed is still there. Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.50,0:19:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the the there are Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.42,0:19:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they call those the\Nthe in the the material Johnny's Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.83,0:19:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, material having to do with form Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.17,0:19:23.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the material genres are, Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.12,0:19:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, when we when we enter into that\NSarva kalpa somebody state so we, Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.12,0:19:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we merge with our meditation object, Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.33,0:19:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there can be the dropping away Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.92,0:19:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of, of the mind and body\Nand we enter into the immaterial genres. Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.12,0:19:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there are Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.79,0:19:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,four immaterial genres\Nand I'm not going to really talk Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.96,0:19:50.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about those because they're,\Nthey're not really good to talk about. Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.29,0:19:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're their best left for,\Nfor direct experience. Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.42,0:19:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'll just say what what they're,\Nwhat they are. Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.75,0:20:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the, the first one is Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.00,0:20:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infinite space. Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.67,0:20:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's, there's, there's\Nstill a sense of infinite space Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.46,0:20:08.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then that will drop away. Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.67,0:20:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's there's a sense Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.50,0:20:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that infinite space is infinite. Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.67,0:20:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, infinite conscious ness. Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.42,0:20:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, and that infinite consciousness drops Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.50,0:20:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away into this even more subtle,\Nno thing thinness. Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.88,0:20:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that no thinness drops away Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.21,0:20:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into what they call\Nneither perception or non Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.88,0:20:40.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perception, you know,\NSo it's getting pretty abstract here. Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.88,0:20:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And and, you know, these Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.92,0:20:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these are you know,\Nyou don't have to learn these things. Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.25,0:20:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are just,\Nyou know, phenomena that that unfold Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.62,0:20:55.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,naturally as as a result of practice. Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.04,0:20:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so so, Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.25,0:21:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, hanging out in either perception\Nor non perception. Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.04,0:21:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the final sort of Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.08,0:21:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realization in that genre Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.33,0:21:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,progression is what they call Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.33,0:21:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neuro, the summer party, which is Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.33,0:21:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what the Buddha experience. Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.25,0:21:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's a very rare phenomenon where Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.75,0:21:26.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the the being that Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.67,0:21:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that enters into that it's when they Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.46,0:21:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're able to meditate\Nfor an insanely long periods of time. Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.12,0:21:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they go into essentially\Na meditative state for four weeks Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.62,0:21:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and basically burn off\Nall the rest of their karma. Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.79,0:21:46.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So nobody does. Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.25,0:21:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's like it's very rare, but it's a\Nthing, you know, it's a it's a thing. Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.00,0:21:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And some of the the great, Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.92,0:21:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, masters\Nhave, have experienced that. Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.71,0:21:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.17,0:22:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, so the convergence of, Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.08,0:22:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, it's in its not total Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.83,0:22:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dropping off of mind and body Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.54,0:22:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know it's realizing\Nwhat remains in that state Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.58,0:22:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no one can tell you what remains\Nin that state and you have to realize it. Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.29,0:22:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, so this is where, you know,\Nthe direct path Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.92,0:22:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Jana path converge\Nis in that final realization. Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.25,0:22:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're both\Nthey're both coming to the same place. Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.33,0:22:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it ultimately doesn't Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.71,0:22:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really matter if you are just sitting\Nyou know, if you're just sitting, Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.25,0:22:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to go through all this stuff\Nanyway. Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.04,0:22:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, whatever's in the unconscious\Nis going to present itself. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.83,0:22:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Energy will be freed. Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.92,0:22:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These these stages of bliss\Nand all this stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.25,0:23:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, some people experience it,\Nyou know, really strong energy Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.75,0:23:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other people,\Nyou know, have different phenomena. Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.00,0:23:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have different different\Nlearning goals or, Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.62,0:23:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, different ways Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.71,0:23:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that letting go of pattern\Nwill manifest Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.67,0:23:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in experience. Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.75,0:23:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So so not everybody, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.46,0:23:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is this in Buddhism,\Nthey call it the dry path. Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.83,0:23:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the the inside path\Nwhere you don't Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.75,0:23:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily\Ngo through, you know, rapture and, Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.75,0:23:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, this, Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.50,0:23:39.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this unfolding of Kundalini\Nand all this stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.38,0:23:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's possible\Nfor this flip to happen in a in a Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.12,0:23:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a more direct way\Nwithout this unfolding. Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.33,0:23:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's kind of mysterious. Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.96,0:23:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure why that is. Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.58,0:23:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.12,0:23:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know they have all, all the bells\Nand whistles Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.33,0:23:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on them, on the path and, and Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.42,0:24:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this, this whole unfolding of genres\Nand for other people Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.62,0:24:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's it's not necessarily Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.71,0:24:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah so any questions Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.17,0:24:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about that before we Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.58,0:24:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,move on, Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.08,0:24:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a question about. Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.00,0:24:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mm hmm. Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.62,0:24:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Disturbing to hear you say that\Nthe current gets burned off very, Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.46,0:24:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very end instead of is there no Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.12,0:24:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,processing and working with karma Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.17,0:24:39.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along the path along the way or. Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.75,0:24:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, but everything that we're doing, Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.17,0:24:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all this purification\Nof Sam scars, this is all Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.21,0:24:47.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could say. Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.50,0:24:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Purifying or becoming free of karma. Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.88,0:24:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, of course. Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.38,0:24:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, that's. Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.21,0:24:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all. Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.96,0:24:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all what we're doing every time\Nwe're we're seeing, Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.17,0:25:03.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, a big mind pattern\Nand we're able to let it go. Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.33,0:25:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're. Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.83,0:25:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, we're becoming free of that karma,\Nyou know? Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.42,0:25:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's an interesting thing\Nwith karma, you know, for me, like. Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.75,0:25:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like when we finally have that flip\Nto awareness, Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.25,0:25:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, where we realize, like,\NI'm actually not this, this character Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.08,0:25:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is going through this whole process. Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.04,0:25:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the crazy thing is\Nthat awareness Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.71,0:25:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was never bound at all by karma. Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.92,0:25:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was never touched by karma. Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.08,0:25:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So so yeah, so,\Nso the whole thing with karma Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.62,0:25:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is kind of a red herring,\Nyou know, like it's, it's like it's Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.42,0:25:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seems like there's something to do there,\Nbut yet when that flip happens, Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.79,0:25:53.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like a awareness\Nwas was never bound in the first place. Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.88,0:25:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know, who does karma belong to? Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.38,0:25:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It belongs to the character. Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.25,0:26:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's, it's kind of ridiculous,\Nyou know, Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.62,0:26:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole the whole worry about karma. Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.00,0:26:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, there's this whole thing\Nin Buddhism about about one's returners Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.29,0:26:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, and, you know, like, you know,\Ncoming back and like, who comes back? Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.21,0:26:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's it's all awareness\Nplaying hide and seek this one awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.92,0:26:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So to me, it's a it's a little bit of a, Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.29,0:26:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a non-issue, you know? Yeah, Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.54,0:26:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.00,0:26:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good. Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.83,0:26:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, yeah, Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.83,0:26:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.71,0:26:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the military go quite deep in, Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.08,0:26:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our meditation practice more easily Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.04,0:26:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're like stuck in the retreat\Nand you know, it's no escape for the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.33,0:26:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mean all that. Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.17,0:26:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as, as the retreat progresses, Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.50,0:26:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mind is quieter and quieter, Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.88,0:27:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it goes further in communication. Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.75,0:27:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My question is, Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.62,0:27:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we get out of this retreat,\Nlike I meditate, Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.12,0:27:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's interesting when our enough is Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.46,0:27:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is it going to Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.75,0:27:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this death, this profound Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.29,0:27:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience? Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.92,0:27:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this can we Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.21,0:27:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just in an hour a day and then, you know,\Nall the rest of your life going on? Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.29,0:27:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have all your worries? Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.17,0:27:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mm hmm. Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.00,0:27:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.54,0:27:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's that's the question that always comes\Nup. And. Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.88,0:27:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, so, you know, the truth is Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.58,0:27:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, you know, this\Nis something we talk about all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.58,0:27:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's it's, Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.04,0:27:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, we have Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.21,0:27:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awakenings, you know, we put ourselves Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.38,0:27:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in these conditions of no escape\Nand then go back to life. Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.33,0:27:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And like, the truth is,\Nit doesn't always get easier. Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.42,0:28:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It actually, you know,\Nwe get very sensitized to the pattern. Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.92,0:28:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can see the patterns so clearly,\Nyou know, like Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.54,0:28:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so when you know who you are, you know,\Nyou're not that conditioned mind. Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.21,0:28:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But yeah, there's still some scars\Nor so patterns in play. Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.29,0:28:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's just still,\Nyou know, like, like the Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.54,0:28:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the character goes back to life. So, Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.75,0:28:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it becomes very,\Nvery clear that those patterns are there Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.42,0:28:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we feel them fully\Nwhen we go back to life. Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.00,0:28:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in some ways, Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.38,0:28:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.71,0:28:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always say it's the beginning of a, Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.71,0:28:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know,\Na really accelerated purification process. Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.62,0:28:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we go back to life\Nbecause we feel and see whatever Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.88,0:28:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is remaining to be purified\Nand it'll it'll be more obvious. Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.29,0:28:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It'll come up more clearly. Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.04,0:28:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So but at the same time, like, Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.29,0:29:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, so the key for for coming Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.29,0:29:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to, you know, a practice like this Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.62,0:29:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and doing this and finding out the truth,\Nyou know, that Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.88,0:29:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that conditioned mind\Nthat was seeking and doing something Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.58,0:29:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't you and that it can't do it, Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.00,0:29:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has to drop away and essentially fail. Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.17,0:29:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So so the main difference Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.08,0:29:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the end of seeking\Nyou know, there's no more seeking. Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.46,0:29:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't need to be seeking anything\Nwhen you go back to life. Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.79,0:29:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't need to be Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.29,0:29:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,searching for who you Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.38,0:29:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are because who you are\Nis always right here. Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.17,0:29:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's it's\Ngot that fundamental delusion Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.71,0:29:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the mind that it has to do something. Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.25,0:29:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, or, you know, that the\Nthe piece that I'm feeling in this, Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.58,0:29:56.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, meditation retreat, you know,\Nthe mind will always go, it's so sneaky. Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.33,0:29:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will just say, how do I keep it? Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.46,0:30:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do I hold onto it? Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.33,0:30:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the mind is saying that always,\Nyou know, like how do I hold it? Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.79,0:30:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do I integrate it? Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.50,0:30:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know? Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.08,0:30:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's the delusion of the mind,\Nright? Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.12,0:30:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like the mind can't do it. Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.08,0:30:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's nothing the mind needs to do. Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.50,0:30:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can we can go back into life and and Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.75,0:30:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operate the\Nsame way we're operating in this retreat. Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.67,0:30:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just let it happen. Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.25,0:30:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just let it unfold. Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.75,0:30:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know that that purification\Nis going to happen Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.96,0:30:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just by you being you just by being. Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.42,0:30:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, yeah, Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.67,0:30:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah, Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.17,0:30:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.38,0:30:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know, the truth\Nis, it's it's not an easy ride always. Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.46,0:30:49.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we we go back,\Nwe fall, fall, and, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.33,0:30:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we get snagged over and over,\Nyou know, we fall into a pattern, Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.79,0:31:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, we then, then we realize\Nwho's falling into pattern or what's, Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.67,0:31:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's happening and yeah, and it's and\Nthis is part of that purification process. Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.50,0:31:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know,\Nby coming back into being over and over, Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.25,0:31:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's this purification that happens Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.33,0:31:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eventually the outer life Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.17,0:31:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will, you know, will rearrange in Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.54,0:31:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a reflection\Nof more true expression of who we are. Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.21,0:31:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.25,0:31:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the quest to change\Nthe perspective is to know where you are. Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.79,0:31:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just. Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.79,0:31:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that. Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.83,0:31:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.17,0:31:40.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that and that energy, you know,\Nthat is alive as well. Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.25,0:31:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like that sensitizes you to you know\Nlike the, the, a lot of the, Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.92,0:31:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the big patterns that need to shift\Nin the outer world become so obvious Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.08,0:31:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can't put\Nyou know you can't go back in that box Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.83,0:31:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right like the energy is is out now\Nand it's free Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.75,0:32:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's like it's really obvious\Nand so it's not even a choice anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.29,0:32:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's it's like the energy is is\Nhas made the choice for you. Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.79,0:32:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.58,0:32:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.04,0:32:14.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very, very helpful. Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.71,0:32:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Extremely helpful. Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.67,0:32:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.25,0:32:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You remembering your this Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.42,0:32:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,film of your hand and my hands here. Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.38,0:32:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, yeah, about that. Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.83,0:32:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I was asking the same question. Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.29,0:32:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, yeah, saying that is fine by me Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.83,0:32:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because everyone is like thinking\NI'm asking, Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.71,0:32:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know. Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.38,0:32:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I remember that, I love that Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.00,0:32:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the filmmakers of the story itself, Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.12,0:32:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the a disappointment or, Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.71,0:33:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the the battle took in on that Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.17,0:33:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he went to the end in that game Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.25,0:33:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just didn't and Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.92,0:33:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't buying the piece\Nand all the other time Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.33,0:33:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like going right by that kind\Nyou need to be in America Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.67,0:33:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to be in this piece\Ncalls for it because Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.75,0:33:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to. Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.29,0:33:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got them like in the end, Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.83,0:33:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he wasn't a kid, Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.54,0:33:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he was doing his lessons\Nin a normal life. Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.88,0:33:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. Where they can Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.83,0:33:40.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become like them. Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.25,0:33:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And is this the same question? Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.04,0:33:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So just sharing. Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.00,0:33:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.79,0:33:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This film's beautiful\Nand experience completely. Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.92,0:33:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how could you have. Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.25,0:33:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.38,0:33:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.08,0:33:58.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And explain completely this part of\Nbeing the, you know, the things. Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.08,0:34:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, yeah, that's it. Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.71,0:34:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's it. Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.29,0:34:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's different for everyone,\Nyou know, the that Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.42,0:34:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,flowering of the, the lotus or whatever\Nyou want to call it, you know, it's like Dialogue: 0,0:34:11.71,0:34:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he, he listen to that direction,\Nyou know, he knew something in him Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.58,0:34:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was saying he had to go to America\Nand that was clear, Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.00,0:34:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was his path and he he listened\Nhe aligned with that energy. Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.38,0:34:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And and that's that is enlightenment.\NYeah. Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.29,0:34:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we aligned with that inner direction\Nthat, uh, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.54,0:34:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas for somebody else, Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.21,0:34:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe it is going in that cave, you know,\Nmaybe that's their, their path, Right. Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.50,0:34:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we just never know, you know,\Nor it could be absolutely anything, Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.88,0:34:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, it could be, you know,\Nbeing an artist where we, we, you express Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.88,0:34:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's coming through in, you know,\Nor a musician or whatever, you know. Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.46,0:34:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.46,0:34:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.88,0:35:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah, it's just that willingness to Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.08,0:35:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just follow and trust that inner guidance. Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.25,0:35:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's so simple. Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.83,0:35:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just what excites us. Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.21,0:35:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all it is. Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.62,0:35:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, It's very childlike, really. Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.62,0:35:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not, you know, it's sometimes people,\Nyou know, at the end of the retreat, Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.96,0:35:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'll, they'll be like, okay,\NI know who I am, but what's my purpose? Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.42,0:35:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, and, and, and it's it's like,\Nyou know, Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.88,0:35:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's\Nthat's such a burden to have a purpose. Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.50,0:35:35.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know,\Nit's like a projection into the future. Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.33,0:35:36.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right. Again, that's the line. Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.71,0:35:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the trap of the mind. Like,\Nwhat's my purpose? Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.50,0:35:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like what a what a heavy burden to have, Dialogue: 0,0:35:43.83,0:35:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like some mission\Nthat you have to fulfill, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.92,0:35:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So to me, it's more like Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.96,0:35:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in, you know, like people, people\Nlook at my, Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.92,0:35:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my website like a wake in the world dot\Ncom and think, oh, Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.00,0:36:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've got some big mission,\Nyou know some big purpose or something. Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.42,0:36:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's that that moment to moment,\Nyou know, following Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.58,0:36:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your excitement is is it, you know,\Nlike Joseph Campbell said Yeah, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.96,0:36:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Follow your bliss. That's it. Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.79,0:36:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.17,0:36:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's, it's, it's Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.58,0:36:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very you know like a little kid doesn't,\Ndoesn't say what's my purpose. Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.75,0:36:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, they don't they don't try\Nand figure out their mission in life. Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.62,0:36:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They just go and play Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.58,0:36:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the next toy or,\Nyou know, they're just excited naturally. Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.54,0:36:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's that that feeling\Nthat is our compass. Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.21,0:36:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, they're all just kind of Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.21,0:36:35.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joseph Campbell. Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.17,0:36:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.54,0:36:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He, he, he's famous for that that phrase. Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.75,0:36:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Follow your bliss. Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.04,0:36:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.04,0:36:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Compass. Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.83,0:36:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, Dialogue: 0,0:36:48.79,0:36:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.71,0:36:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right. Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.21,0:36:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So yeah, I will take a short break\Nand then Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.33,0:36:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come back for a meditation.