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So I'm going to talk about the Jhanas.

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The stages of meditative absorption.

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And I want to kind of put them in context.

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So these stages of absorption are 
something that come from very

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ancient traditions. So this is sort of 
pre sectarian Buddhism

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from the Upanishads you know, 
long time ago.

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So a lot of modern Buddhism,
is now about insight meditation.

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There are still people teaching the Jhanas,

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And often these things 
are taught separately.

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As if there are practices for the Jhanas
and practices for insight meditation.

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Practices, for direct inquiry
or the non dual practices.

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And I see them all at 
a certain point converging

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and I want to kind of point
in that direction.

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That's where I'm going in this talk, and
I want to kind of make it clear that

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these are all facets of what unfolds,
when we start to really inquire

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or meditate, or whatever you want to call
this process we're engaged in here.

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And so this is part of the landscape
or part of the phenomena.

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And I'm going to go into the 
Theravada sort of framework

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of the Jhanas, just because it's 
very thorough and complete.

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But I don't consider it to be like a map.

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I don't considered to be definitive.

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People have awakenings without
encountering any of this stuff.

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But I think it can be helpful
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especially when we're really going
into a meditation practice.

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You know, the Jhanas are really 
related to practice.

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So as we're cultivating concentration, 
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there are these stages
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So, we can also completely
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And as Dogen said, we just sit. 
Just sit and just be

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and we can end up awakening
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So again, it always comes down to this
'Always being Buddha,

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always becoming Buddha'.

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This is a developmental process,
so it's unfolding through time.

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So it's pertaining to the self structure,

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but yet we can wake up
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So with these Jhanas in our practice,

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as we cultivate these meditation 
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jump into these different stages
of absorption more easily.

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the later the stages 
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So we don't have to go all 
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These are found in all different
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So, Patanjali talks about these
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sometimes when people are talking
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they're talking about the Jhanas, 
basically. It's just different terminology

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But sometimes somebody is used XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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to refer to the final awakening
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like summer camp or a Nerva kalpa.

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But other times they divide up

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all these different societies,
and when you get into that,

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then it's the same as these
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of genre absorption.

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So I have patanjali's teaching here

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and, and even in Christianity,

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the Christian mystics have,

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they call it
sometimes the religious ecstasies.

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So these are there are energetic unfolding
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So if you if you listen or read

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the works of Saint Teresa of Avila

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or Saint John of the Cross or

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Saint Francis of Assisi, you find these

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these religious ecstasies
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And there there are these
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And they don't all exactly correlate. But.

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But you get a sense, you know, that

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it's the same landscape,
it's the same phenomena unfolding.

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So in Patanjali's teachings

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and the the last three limbs of yoga

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are essentially
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And so this this is called Sam Yama,

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which is so there's Darna,
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Diana, which is the meditation.

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sort of the fruition of that practice.

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Darna, as we spoke about

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previously,
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on one point or one region,
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then diyan is the continuous

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flow of attention
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So that continuity through time
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the meditator appearing
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And this is somebody.

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So you you become one
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becomes so focused,
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the distinguishing between subject
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That duality falls away.

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or there's just
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the john as this,
this absorption, meditative absorption,

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you becoming absorbed
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you know, we start out in meditation
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it's, it's busy
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that are coming up,
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when that monkey mind is settling down,

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the hindrances are not a problem anymore.

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present with the meditation object, but
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and we're generally
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you're you're doing something that really
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You're actually sticking with it.

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in, in the poly starts to arise,

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which is an energy. So,

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so the energy that was going into these
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It's it's a good feeling at this point.

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start to go deeper and and so the darker

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at the beginning that unsatisfactory in

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and then this satisfactory
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also sort of comes and goes as well.

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A lot of people really stall out,
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wouldn't shins and young calls
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satisfactory ness that comes.

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we can learn to surrender.

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We're not we're not, you know,
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they'll subside, and then we'll be craving
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of wanting that state or that that bliss.

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we don't progress beyond the second Jana

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until we're willing to let that phenomena
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where we're really surrendering,
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then the third stage
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having no preference of any phenomena
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genre which, which is,
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the energy now is single pointed
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into the conditioned mind becomes present
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that merging starts to happen
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He's talking
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tireless energy was aroused
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and my mind concentrated and unified,

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quite secluded from central pleasures,

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secluded from unwholesome states.

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The second John. The third. John.

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you know, sitting under the body tree,
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He he had that
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he was going to sit under that tree
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he was going to be unrelenting in that.

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What really stands out to me is, you know,
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you know, tireless energy was aroused.

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the attention, concentration, equanimity,

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these, these literally get
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so we can, you know,

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it's like our baseline of,

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you know, meditative capacity

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in the teachings
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you know, as we progress

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on the path, you know, and every stage

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there's this sort of dropping off of mind,

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sort of the benefit of that dropping off.

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feelings of joy or

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energy or ecstasy, rapture.

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And the deeper we go, you know,
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And and simultaneously,
the more sticky they are, because,

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you know, the more beautiful,
like when the real rapture

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starts to come, you know, the
these non dual experiences of,

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of being one with God, you know, these,

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these are everything in our being wants
to stay there.

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And so to be a quantum us with that as a

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as a temporary state is

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is challenging
it's it's very challenging. So,

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so it's like the

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the stakes get higher
as we as we go further with the dryness.

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It gets, it gets very

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difficult for the mind to not be attached.

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So indirect inquiry, you know, we

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you know, we intend to directly experience
our true nature.

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So we're not
you know, it's always in the now we're not

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we're not progressing
through these these different stages.

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And and when we awaken, you know,
we we find,

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you know, a peace and a joy and happiness

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that is not contingent on
anything on anything external.

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So and so in all of these genres,

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all of the experiences that come and go

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are temporary.

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You know, they're all contingent on,

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you know, this this

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practice that we're doing, you know, this

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letting go and this dropping off of mind.

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But eventually,
you know, when we when we go

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to the end of

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the john, as you know, like
the first for John is are

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what they call the material genres,

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which are pretty equivalent
to the Salva culpa.

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Somebody you know, sometimes it's called

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somebody with a seed.

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So there's a seed of of form,

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there's a seed of pattern there.

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So so it's temporary.

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So it's, you know,
the pattern will grow back.

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Basically, the seed is still there.

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So the the there are

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so they call those the
the in the the material Johnny's

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you know, material having to do with form

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and the material genres are,

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you know, when we when we enter into that
Sarva kalpa somebody state so we,

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we merge with our meditation object,

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then there can be the dropping away

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of, of the mind and body
and we enter into the immaterial genres.

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So there are

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four immaterial genres
and I'm not going to really talk

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about those because they're,
they're not really good to talk about.

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They're their best left for,
for direct experience.

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But I'll just say what what they're,
what they are.

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So the, the first one is

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infinite space.

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So there's, there's, there's
still a sense of infinite space

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and then that will drop away.

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And there's there's a sense

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that that infinite space is infinite.

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Actually, infinite conscious ness.

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And, and that infinite consciousness drops

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away into this even more subtle,
no thing thinness.

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And that no thinness drops away

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into what they call
neither perception or non

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perception, you know,
So it's getting pretty abstract here.

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And and, you know, these

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and these are you know,
you don't have to learn these things.

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These are just,
you know, phenomena that that unfold

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naturally as as a result of practice.

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And so so,

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you know, hanging out in either perception
or non perception.

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Then the final sort of

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realization in that genre

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progression is what they call

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neuro, the summer party, which is

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that's what the Buddha experience.

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So it's a very rare phenomenon where

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the the being that

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that enters into that it's when they

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they're able to meditate
for an insanely long periods of time.

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So they go into essentially
a meditative state for four weeks

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and basically burn off
all the rest of their karma.

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So nobody does.

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So it's like it's very rare, but it's a
thing, you know, it's a it's a thing.

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And some of the the great,

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you know, masters
have, have experienced that.

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Yeah.

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So, so the convergence of,

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you know, it's in its not total

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dropping off of mind and body

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and you know it's realizing
what remains in that state

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and no one can tell you what remains
in that state and you have to realize it.

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So, so this is where, you know,
the direct path

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and the Jana path converge
is in that final realization.

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They're both
they're both coming to the same place.

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So it ultimately doesn't

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really matter if you are just sitting
you know, if you're just sitting,

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you're going to go through all this stuff
anyway.

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You know, whatever's in the unconscious
is going to present itself.

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Energy will be freed.

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These these stages of bliss
and all this stuff.

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And, you know, some people experience it,
you know, really strong energy

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and other people,
you know, have different phenomena.

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They have different different
learning goals or,

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you know, different ways

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that that letting go of pattern
will manifest

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in experience.

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So so not everybody, you know,

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there is this in Buddhism,
they call it the dry path.

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You know, the the inside path
where you don't

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necessarily
go through, you know, rapture and,

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you know, this,

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this unfolding of Kundalini
and all this stuff.

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It's possible
for this flip to happen in a in a

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just a more direct way
without this unfolding.

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So it's kind of mysterious.

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I'm not sure why that is.

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Some people

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know they have all, all the bells
and whistles

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on them, on the path and, and

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this, this whole unfolding of genres
and for other people

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it's it's not necessarily

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yeah so any questions

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about that before we

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move on,

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I have a question about.

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Mm hmm.

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Disturbing to hear you say that
the current gets burned off very,

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very end instead of is there no

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processing and working with karma

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along the path along the way or.

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No, but everything that we're doing,

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all this purification
of Sam scars, this is all

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you could say.

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Purifying or becoming free of karma.

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Yeah, of course. Yeah.

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To me, that's.

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That's all.

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It's all what we're doing every time
we're we're seeing,

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you know, a big mind pattern
and we're able to let it go.

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We're.

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Yeah, we're becoming free of that karma,
you know?

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And there's an interesting thing
with karma, you know, for me, like.

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Like when we finally have that flip
to awareness,

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you know, where we realize, like,
I'm actually not this, this character

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that is going through this whole process.

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You know, the crazy thing is
that awareness

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was never bound at all by karma.

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It was never touched by karma.

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So so yeah, so,
so the whole thing with karma

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is kind of a red herring,
you know, like it's, it's like it's

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seems like there's something to do there,
but yet when that flip happens,

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it's like a awareness
was was never bound in the first place.

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So, you know, who does karma belong to?

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It belongs to the character.

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So it's, it's kind of ridiculous,
you know,

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the whole the whole worry about karma.

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And, you know, there's this whole thing
in Buddhism about about one's returners

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and, and, you know, like, you know,
coming back and like, who comes back?

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You know, it's it's all awareness
playing hide and seek this one awareness.

407
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So to me, it's a it's a little bit of a,

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a non-issue, you know? Yeah,

409
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yeah.

410
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Good.

411
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Yeah, yeah,

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yeah.

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In the military go quite deep in,

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in our meditation practice more easily

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because we're like stuck in the retreat
and you know, it's no escape for the mind.

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Mean all that.

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And as, as the retreat progresses,

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the mind is quieter and quieter,

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so it goes further in communication.

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My question is,

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when we get out of this retreat,
like I meditate,

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it's interesting when our enough is

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it is it going to

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is this death, this profound

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experience?

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Is this can we

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just in an hour a day and then, you know,
all the rest of your life going on?

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You have all your worries?

429
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Mm hmm.

430
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Yeah.

431
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It's that's the question that always comes
up. And.

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Yeah, so, you know, the truth is

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and, you know, this
is something we talk about all the time.

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You know, it's it's,

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you know, we have

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awakenings, you know, we put ourselves

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in these conditions of no escape
and then go back to life.

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And like, the truth is,
it doesn't always get easier.

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It actually, you know,
we get very sensitized to the pattern.

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We can see the patterns so clearly,
you know, like

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so when you know who you are, you know,
you're not that conditioned mind.

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But yeah, there's still some scars
or so patterns in play.

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There's just still,
you know, like, like the

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the character goes back to life. So,

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so it becomes very,
very clear that those patterns are there

446
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and we feel them fully
when we go back to life.

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So in some ways,

448
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you know,

449
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I always say it's the beginning of a,

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you know,
a really accelerated purification process.

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And when we go back to life
because we feel and see whatever

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is remaining to be purified
and it'll it'll be more obvious.

453
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It'll come up more clearly.

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So but at the same time, like,

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you know, so the key for for coming

456
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to, you know, a practice like this

457
00:29:04,625 --> 00:29:09,500
and doing this and finding out the truth,
you know, that

458
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that conditioned mind
that was seeking and doing something

459
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isn't you and that it can't do it,

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it has to drop away and essentially fail.

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So so the main difference

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is the end of seeking
you know, there's no more seeking.

463
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You don't need to be seeking anything
when you go back to life.

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You don't need to be

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searching for who you

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are because who you are
is always right here.

467
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You know, it's it's
got that fundamental delusion

468
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of the mind that it has to do something.

469
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You know, or, you know, that the
the piece that I'm feeling in this,

470
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you know, meditation retreat, you know,
the mind will always go, it's so sneaky.

471
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It will just say, how do I keep it?

472
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How do I hold onto it?

473
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:05,666
You know, the mind is saying that always,
you know, like how do I hold it?

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How do I integrate it?

475
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You know?

476
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But that's the delusion of the mind,
right?

477
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Like the mind can't do it.

478
00:30:13,083 --> 00:30:16,333
There's nothing the mind needs to do.

479
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:20,625
So we can we can go back into life and and

480
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:24,666
operate the
same way we're operating in this retreat.

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Just let it happen.

482
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Just let it unfold.

483
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:31,958
You know that that purification
is going to happen

484
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just by you being you just by being.

485
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Yeah, yeah,

486
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yeah,

487
00:30:40,166 --> 00:30:40,375
yeah.

488
00:30:40,375 --> 00:30:45,458
So, you know, the truth
is, it's it's not an easy ride always.

489
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You know, we we go back,
we fall, fall, and, you know,

490
00:30:49,333 --> 00:30:55,708
we get snagged over and over,
you know, we fall into a pattern,

491
00:30:55,791 --> 00:31:00,041
you know, we then, then we realize
who's falling into pattern or what's,

492
00:31:00,666 --> 00:31:06,500
what's happening and yeah, and it's and
this is part of that purification process.

493
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:10,250
And, you know,
by coming back into being over and over,

494
00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:13,250
there's this purification that happens

495
00:31:13,333 --> 00:31:16,166
and eventually the outer life

496
00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:19,458
will, you know, will rearrange in

497
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as a reflection
of more true expression of who we are.

498
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Yeah.

499
00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:29,458
So the quest to change
the perspective is to know where you are.

500
00:31:30,791 --> 00:31:31,791
Just.

501
00:31:31,791 --> 00:31:33,833
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that.

502
00:31:33,833 --> 00:31:36,166
And that

503
00:31:36,166 --> 00:31:40,250
and that and that energy, you know,
that is alive as well.

504
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:45,750
Like that sensitizes you to you know
like the, the, a lot of the,

505
00:31:45,916 --> 00:31:50,750
the big patterns that need to shift
in the outer world become so obvious

506
00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:55,833
that you can't put
you know you can't go back in that box

507
00:31:55,833 --> 00:31:59,458
right like the energy is is out now
and it's free

508
00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:05,125
so it's like it's really obvious
and so it's not even a choice anymore.

509
00:32:05,291 --> 00:32:09,291
You know, it's it's like the energy is is
has made the choice for you.

510
00:32:09,791 --> 00:32:11,583
Yeah.

511
00:32:11,583 --> 00:32:12,041
Thank you.

512
00:32:12,041 --> 00:32:14,708
It's very, very helpful.

513
00:32:14,708 --> 00:32:17,708
Extremely helpful.

514
00:32:18,666 --> 00:32:21,666
Thank you.

515
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:28,083
You remembering your this

516
00:32:29,416 --> 00:32:33,000
film of your hand and my hands here.

517
00:32:33,375 --> 00:32:36,375
Yeah, yeah, about that.

518
00:32:36,833 --> 00:32:39,291
Because I was asking the same question.

519
00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:42,500
It's like, yeah, saying that is fine by me

520
00:32:42,833 --> 00:32:45,833
because everyone is like thinking
I'm asking,

521
00:32:46,708 --> 00:32:48,375
you know. Yeah.

522
00:32:48,375 --> 00:32:51,000
And as I remember that, I love that

523
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
the filmmakers of the story itself,

524
00:32:55,125 --> 00:32:58,125
the a disappointment or,

525
00:32:58,708 --> 00:33:01,166
you know, the the battle took in on that

526
00:33:01,166 --> 00:33:04,166
he went to the end in that game

527
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:06,916
just didn't and

528
00:33:06,916 --> 00:33:09,916
didn't buying the piece
and all the other time

529
00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:16,666
like going right by that kind
you need to be in America

530
00:33:16,666 --> 00:33:21,500
you need to be in this piece
calls for it because

531
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,291
you need to.

532
00:33:24,291 --> 00:33:27,291
You got them like in the end,

533
00:33:27,833 --> 00:33:29,541
because he wasn't a kid,

534
00:33:29,541 --> 00:33:33,708
because he was doing his lessons
in a normal life.

535
00:33:33,875 --> 00:33:37,375
Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. Where they can

536
00:33:38,833 --> 00:33:40,250
become like them.

537
00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:43,041
And is this the same question?

538
00:33:43,041 --> 00:33:45,000
So just sharing.

539
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,791
Yeah.

540
00:33:45,791 --> 00:33:48,875
This film's beautiful
and experience completely.

541
00:33:48,916 --> 00:33:50,250
And how could you have.

542
00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:52,375
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

543
00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:53,083
Yeah.

544
00:33:53,083 --> 00:33:58,791
And explain completely this part of
being the, you know, the things.

545
00:34:00,083 --> 00:34:02,708
Yeah, yeah, that's it.

546
00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:03,291
That's it.

547
00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:06,541
So it's different for everyone,
you know, the that

548
00:34:07,416 --> 00:34:11,375
flowering of the, the lotus or whatever
you want to call it, you know, it's like

549
00:34:11,708 --> 00:34:17,250
he, he listen to that direction,
you know, he knew something in him

550
00:34:17,583 --> 00:34:23,000
was saying he had to go to America
and that was clear,

551
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,875
That was his path and he he listened
he aligned with that energy.

552
00:34:27,375 --> 00:34:30,291
And and that's that is enlightenment.
Yeah.

553
00:34:30,291 --> 00:34:34,541
When we aligned with that inner direction
that, uh, yeah.

554
00:34:34,541 --> 00:34:36,208
Whereas for somebody else,

555
00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:40,500
maybe it is going in that cave, you know,
maybe that's their, their path, Right.

556
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:45,666
So we just never know, you know,
or it could be absolutely anything,

557
00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:51,875
you know, it could be, you know,
being an artist where we, we, you express

558
00:34:51,875 --> 00:34:55,875
what's coming through in, you know,
or a musician or whatever, you know.

559
00:34:56,458 --> 00:34:57,458
Yeah.

560
00:34:57,458 --> 00:34:57,875
Yeah.

561
00:34:57,875 --> 00:35:01,250
So, yeah, it's just that willingness to

562
00:35:03,083 --> 00:35:06,833
just follow and trust that inner guidance.

563
00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:08,833
And it's so simple.

564
00:35:08,833 --> 00:35:11,208
It's just what excites us.

565
00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:12,625
That's all it is.

566
00:35:12,625 --> 00:35:15,625
You know, It's very childlike, really.

567
00:35:15,625 --> 00:35:20,958
It's not, you know, it's sometimes people,
you know, at the end of the retreat,

568
00:35:20,958 --> 00:35:24,041
they'll, they'll be like, okay,
I know who I am, but what's my purpose?

569
00:35:24,416 --> 00:35:28,291
You know, and, and, and it's it's like,
you know,

570
00:35:28,875 --> 00:35:32,166
that's
that's such a burden to have a purpose.

571
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,333
You know,
it's like a projection into the future.

572
00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:36,708
Right. Again, that's the line.

573
00:35:36,708 --> 00:35:39,500
That's the trap of the mind. Like,
what's my purpose?

574
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:43,625
Like what a what a heavy burden to have,

575
00:35:43,833 --> 00:35:46,916
like some mission
that you have to fulfill, you know?

576
00:35:46,916 --> 00:35:49,916
So to me, it's more like

577
00:35:49,958 --> 00:35:52,916
in, you know, like people, people
look at my,

578
00:35:52,916 --> 00:35:56,000
my website like a wake in the world dot
com and think, oh,

579
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,000
you've got some big mission,
you know some big purpose or something.

580
00:36:00,416 --> 00:36:04,583
But it's that that moment to moment,
you know, following

581
00:36:04,583 --> 00:36:09,875
your excitement is is it, you know,
like Joseph Campbell said Yeah, yeah.

582
00:36:09,958 --> 00:36:11,791
Follow your bliss. That's it.

583
00:36:11,791 --> 00:36:12,166
Yeah.

584
00:36:12,166 --> 00:36:13,583
And it's, it's, it's

585
00:36:13,583 --> 00:36:17,375
very you know like a little kid doesn't,
doesn't say what's my purpose.

586
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:21,625
You know, they don't they don't try
and figure out their mission in life.

587
00:36:21,625 --> 00:36:22,583
They just go and play

588
00:36:22,583 --> 00:36:26,000
with the next toy or,
you know, they're just excited naturally.

589
00:36:26,541 --> 00:36:30,583
And it's that that feeling
that is our compass.

590
00:36:31,208 --> 00:36:33,000
Yeah, they're all just kind of

591
00:36:34,208 --> 00:36:35,166
Joseph Campbell.

592
00:36:35,166 --> 00:36:35,541
Yeah.

593
00:36:35,541 --> 00:36:38,750
He, he, he's famous for that that phrase.

594
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:41,750
Follow your bliss. Yeah.

595
00:36:42,041 --> 00:36:45,041
Yeah.

596
00:36:45,041 --> 00:36:46,833
Compass.

597
00:36:46,833 --> 00:36:48,791
Yeah,

598
00:36:48,791 --> 00:36:51,708
yeah.

599
00:36:51,708 --> 00:36:54,208
All right.

600
00:36:54,208 --> 00:36:57,291
So yeah, I will take a short break
and then

601
00:36:58,333 --> 00:36:59,500
come back for a meditation.