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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.62,0:00:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(MUSIC)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.06,0:00:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Host) Good evening. Welcome to the\NGrenada Forum,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.01,0:00:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an organization dedicated to the truth.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.51,0:00:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end of the program, \Nour speaker's presentation,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.48,0:01:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there'll be a question-and-answer\Nprogram without restriction.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.56,0:01:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Feel free to ask any question.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.10,0:01:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the true meaning of \Nfreedom of speech.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.38,0:01:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the press is invited to ask \Nquestions, if any of them are here.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.06,0:01:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As children, we are taught of \Na word called character.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.19,0:01:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As adults, we seldom run into \Nthose with it. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.71,0:01:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leastwise in the media or \Nnside the Beltway.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.74,0:01:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It takes character to stand alone
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.88,0:01:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, like David, challence Goliath.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.57,0:01:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like Terry Reed of {\i1}Compromised{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.35,0:01:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like Gary Aldrich of {\i1}Unlimited Access{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.02,0:01:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Chris Ruddy of {\i1}Death of Vince Foster{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.54,0:01:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Ambrose Pritchard of \N{\i1}The London Daily Telegraph{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.72,0:01:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have men of character in our own midst.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.94,0:01:48.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They seldom are forced into the limelight
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.37,0:01:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the conduct of others that betray\Ntheir public trust force the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.23,0:01:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fabric of our society has been torn
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.79,0:01:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by some that have an agenda \Nand have suppressed it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.31,0:02:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On November 15th of 1996, \Njust three months ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.14,0:02:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a dedicated true patriot stood his ground
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.60,0:02:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and did what we call... what we can appreciate.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.84,0:02:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Picture in your mind's eye \NCIA Director John Deutch
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.57,0:02:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a propaganda mission to Los Angeles
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.70,0:02:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to calm the waters as a result of article
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.66,0:02:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that appeared in the \N{\i1}San Jose Mercury News{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.40,0:02:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was hosted by Congresswoman \NJuanita McDonalds.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.44,0:02:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without blinking an eye,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.73,0:02:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our speaker said,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.71,0:02:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I am a former Los Angeles \NPolice Narcotics Detective,"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.42,0:02:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And I can tell you that the Agency"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.24,0:02:42.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"has been dealing in drugs in\Nthis country for a long time."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.37,0:02:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is my distinct pleasure and honor
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.67,0:02:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to greet in the behalf \Nof the Granada Forum
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.07,0:02:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and introduce a man who deserves\Nour respect and attention.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.54,0:03:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please welcome Mr. Michael Ruppert.(applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.22,0:03:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Michael) Thank you. \NThank you very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.74,0:03:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess the first thank you\NI'd like to give tonight
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.16,0:03:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to someone who's not here:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.51,0:03:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Peter Ford of KIAV Radio,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.69,0:03:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who introduced me to you all,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.16,0:03:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who made it possible for me\Nto be here tonight.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.86,0:03:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did a show last night
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.88,0:03:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from midnight to 2:00,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.42,0:03:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was a wonderful experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.66,0:03:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if what we do tonight is\Nanything like that,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.94,0:03:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we're all gonna have a lot of fun.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.42,0:03:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would also like to thank Anne,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.84,0:03:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was very kind to make \Narrangements for me tonight.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.03,0:03:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 19 years, this is the first chance, \Nbelieve it or not, that I have had
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.51,0:03:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to address an assembled group of \Npeople on one issue
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.46,0:03:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to teach what I know,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.67,0:03:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to share my experiences.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.08,0:03:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've done it in snippets;
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.03,0:03:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've done it on radio talk shows;
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.99,0:03:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but never with the opportunity to lay \Nout some evidence and make a case.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.91,0:03:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm very grateful for that:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.18,0:03:58.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a long wait.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.53,0:04:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I am here tonight in two capacities.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.35,0:04:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's any lawyers in the room, \NI'll pray for you but... (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.54,0:04:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know that in a court of law, \Nthey talk about evidence.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.80,0:04:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the first kinds,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.51,0:04:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually the most preferred \Nkind of direct evidence
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.40,0:04:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is witness testimony.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.41,0:04:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all over the major media \Nand in Congress,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.18,0:04:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you hear statements that there is \Nno evidence that CIA deals drugs.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.43,0:04:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, a wittnss can raise his hand \Nunder oath in court,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.50,0:04:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that becomes evidence when\Nhe tells his story.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.89,0:04:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have evidence to give you \Nfrom my own experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.20,0:04:41.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am also here as a detective, \Nif you will,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.89,0:04:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although I have not carried a bad for...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.43,0:04:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since November 30th, 1978,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.57,0:04:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I consider myself to have been a detective
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.76,0:04:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working on one case for all these years.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.13,0:04:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I'm going to present to you
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.36,0:04:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of that evidence tonight.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.91,0:04:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to start by giving you just \Na little historical background;
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.86,0:05:02.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you'll see all these books \Non the table here.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.47,0:05:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't know if they're \Nin frame or not;
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.70,0:05:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're probably not.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.77,0:05:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you'll see {\i1}The Big White Lie{\i0}\Nby Michael Levine
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.48,0:05:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is a former DEA Station Chief\N-- or country attaché, they call it --
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.76,0:05:14.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Argentina.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.05,0:05:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was present in Argentina \Nin 1980
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.42,0:05:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the Central Intelligence Agency\Ninstalled [in Bolivia] the government
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.79,0:05:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Luis García Meza,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.88,0:05:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was a cocaine lord,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.63,0:05:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and gave him the whole country.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.29,0:05:26.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was done in conjunction \Nwith the Argentine military.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.78,0:05:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,García Meza's Chief of Security \Nwas Klaus Barbie,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.99,0:05:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Butcher of Lyons.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.78,0:05:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there was heavy Nazi infiltration
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.71,0:05:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the Argentinean military.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.26,0:05:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike Levine was there.\NHe documented it; he protested it;
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.83,0:05:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course it fell into this black hole
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.04,0:05:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that those of us in law enforcement\Nknow so well.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.18,0:05:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next book that you see there
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.20,0:05:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is written by the only man \Nthat I'm aware of
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.61,0:05:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's been at this longer \Nthan I have.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.29,0:05:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm gonna hold this one up.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.66,0:05:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called {\i1}The Politics of Heroin{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.27,0:06:00.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was originally called {\i1}The Politics{\i0}\N{\i1}of Heroin in Southeast Asia{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.21,0:06:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Professor Alfred McCoy.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.03,0:06:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Published first in 1972.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.75,0:06:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's 25 years ago, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.90,0:06:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a Bible for those of us who do this.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.46,0:06:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we talk about names, dates, places:
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.52,0:06:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the names, the dates, and the places\Nare in here.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.02,0:06:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, again, if there's any lawyers \Nin here,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.92,0:06:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lawyers love to sue people, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.15,0:06:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it that this book has \Nnever been sued?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.05,0:06:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a saying in the law:
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.79,0:06:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The truth is an absolute defense \Nagainst libel."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.80,0:06:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.44,0:06:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is one of our major Bibles.\NIt's in here.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.71,0:06:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was recently revised and updated
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.30,0:06:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to include all kinds of information\Non Iran-Contra, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.93,0:06:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next book that I want to show you...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.44,0:06:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually, there are two, both written\Nby the same authors.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.38,0:06:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these two men, I know both of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.15,0:06:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're both brilliant men.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.73,0:06:57.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Professor Peter Dale Scott is a Professor\Nof English, believe it or not,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.79,0:06:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at UC-Berkeley.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.27,0:07:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He got into this many years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.16,0:07:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he had a Ph.D,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.52,0:07:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he is a dedicated researcher.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.50,0:07:07.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His co-writer, Jonathan Marshall, is a...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.53,0:07:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About as rare as a good lawyer, \Nhe's a good reporter.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.65,0:07:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He works for the {\i1}San Francisco Chronicle{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.07,0:07:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's an award-winning journalist.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.44,0:07:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Neither one of these two books,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.56,0:07:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which name names, dates, places, times,\Nquantities, relationships, documents
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.10,0:07:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have ever been sued. {\i1}Ever{\i0}. OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.45,0:07:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when Jack Blum,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.18,0:07:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was Chief Counsel for this Kerry \NCommittee during the Iran-Contra era,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.30,0:07:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recently testified to your friend \Nand mine Arlen Spector,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.98,0:07:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said, "We don't need to go out \Nand investigate: we know."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.47,0:07:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What he was alluding to,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.69,0:07:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what is contained specifically \Nin {\i1}this{\i0} book,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.30,0:07:51.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is all about Iran-Contra.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.57,0:07:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Names, dates, places, computer logs: \Neverything, it's all in here, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.48,0:07:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We already know. We don't have \Nto investigate.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.65,0:08:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know the CIA deals drugs.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.95,0:08:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course the {\i1}Los Angeles Times{\i0} \Ncompletely omitted
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.30,0:08:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any reference to Jack Blum's testimony\Nin their stories.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.94,0:08:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These two books will give you \Nanything you need to refute...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.22,0:08:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could take Oliver North apart
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.55,0:08:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with about ten pages from this book alone,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.31,0:08:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bury him. OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.82,0:08:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last book that I wanted to show you,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.88,0:08:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's almost impossible to get \Nin this country.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.67,0:08:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder why?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.81,0:08:26.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can get it in Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.99,0:08:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Written by my dear friend \NCelerino Castillo.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.59,0:08:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cele was a DEA agent.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.72,0:08:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's a decorated Vietnam vet \Nwho served first in Peru,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.37,0:08:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then in the Iran-Contra era \Nhe served in Central America.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.76,0:08:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He served in Honduras and Salvador \Nand Guatemala;
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.51,0:08:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was at Ilopango Airport,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.03,0:08:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was the major Contra supply \Nairport in El Salvador
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.76,0:08:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the northern front of the\NContra war effort.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.25,0:08:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he describes in this, at the airport, \Ntwo hangars:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.84,0:09:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hangar Four and Hangar Five.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.11,0:09:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, he's got the records.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.03,0:09:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hangar Four was the CIA hangar;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.59,0:09:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hangar Five was the NSC hangar:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.82,0:09:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both controlled by Oliver North.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.76,0:09:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He recorded tail numbers;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.48,0:09:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he watched the cocaine being loaded;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.54,0:09:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he talked to the pilots;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.82,0:09:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he got the flight plans;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.92,0:09:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he watched as the planes \Nwere given {\i1}gratis{\i0} entry
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.76,0:09:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the border in the United States.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.94,0:09:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wrote reports.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.23,0:09:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happened was \NAmbassador Edwin Corr
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.54,0:09:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- who is now teaching at the \NUniversity of Oklahoma at Norman --
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.21,0:09:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to Cele and said, "Leave it alone, \Nbud. It's a White House operation."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.15,0:09:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's evidence. That's a clue. \N(laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.07,0:09:44.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cele had this wonderful experience
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.77,0:09:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of going to a formal dinner at \Nthe US Embassy in El Salvador.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.67,0:09:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the guest of honor that night
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.78,0:09:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was Vice-President George \NHerbert Walker Bush.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.78,0:09:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(audience: "Ooh!")
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.77,0:09:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Cele was there, and Bush was there,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.86,0:10:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they bring Bush over to Cele,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.65,0:10:04.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, "Mr. Vice-President, this is Celerino\NCastillo, our senior DEA agent."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.21,0:10:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and: "How do you do?" -- Mr. Bush -- \N"You're a hero to the country."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.71,0:10:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cele said, "Mr. Vice-President: \NI've gotta talk to you!"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.38,0:10:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"There's something really \Nwrong going on here!"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.19,0:10:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They're flying drugs out of four and five,\Nand CIA's behind it!"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.74,0:10:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And George Bush said, \N"Nice to meet ya,"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.22,0:10:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And walked away, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.23,0:10:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't let anybody tell you\Nthere is no evidence.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.75,0:10:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a {\i1}mountain{\i0} of evidence \N{\i1}already in existence{\i0}, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.92,0:10:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is irrefutable; it is iron-clad. \NAll right?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.92,0:10:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, given that, I want to paint \Na little picture for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.59,0:10:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go back historically,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.84,0:10:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because my own experience is going \Nto add a little dimension to this for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.13,0:10:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Picture that I have a blackboard behind me
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.32,0:10:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- which I don't, OK? --
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.50,0:10:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But say there's a blackboard
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.69,0:10:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're gonna say that right here\Nis Southeast Asia,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.93,0:10:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and right here is the United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.83,0:10:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and right here is South America,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.06,0:10:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and over here is the Middle East, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.16,0:11:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody was talking earlier about \Norganized crime and CIA.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.61,0:11:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, my opinion is CIA {\i1}is{\i0}\Norganized crime. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.69,0:11:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the Second World War,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.20,0:11:17.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some deals were made between \Nthe Office of Strategic Services
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.62,0:11:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Mafia in New Orleans.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.28,0:11:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were afraid of Nazi sabotage,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.99,0:11:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we took a guy named Lucky Luciano\Nout of prison in New York.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.49,0:11:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he guaranteed that there would be \Nno sabotage on the docks in New York.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.07,0:11:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We took a guy named Vito Genovese
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.98,0:11:37.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- I like that: (exaggerated, languorous \NItalian accent) Vito Genov{\i1}ese{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.79,0:11:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we let him to back to Sicily
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.98,0:11:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so spy on it so we could go and invade\NSicily when Patton went in there.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.80,0:11:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, they went right back\Ninto the drug business.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.00,0:11:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They went right back into \Ntheir operations.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.78,0:11:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The bond is very, very close.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.70,0:11:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stop there: fast-forward to 1954.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.86,0:11:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1954: Diên Biên Phu.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.10,0:11:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The French were kicked out \Nof Indochina.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.80,0:12:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, almost everybody knows that \Nthe Golden Triangle in Indochina
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.62,0:12:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is where most of the world's heroin\Nhas come from for a long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.58,0:12:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the largest opium-growing\Nregion in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.26,0:12:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are several others.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.50,0:12:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The French, in order to sustain their war,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.50,0:12:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had been paying the local tribesmen,\Nthe Hmong tribesmen,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.23,0:12:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Kuomintang
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.90,0:12:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- the Chinese who were \Nkicked out of China --
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.91,0:12:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with opium: which was a long holdover
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.11,0:12:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the British opium trade\Nfrom the 18th Century.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.97,0:12:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the French went out, \Nwe filled that void,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.83,0:12:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we went some people to Indochina.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.07,0:12:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their names were Aderholt, Singlaub...
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.66,0:12:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- does that ring a bell to anybody? --
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.79,0:12:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was also a guy by the name\Nof Paul Helliwell,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.99,0:12:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was a guy by the name \Nof Richard Stillwell,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.96,0:12:48.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these are the people that we \Nsent into Southeast Asia, CIA,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.11,0:12:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take over where the French left.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.94,0:12:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Extremely well-documented.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.36,0:12:54.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the first things \NJohn Singlaub did,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.71,0:12:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the first things \NPaul Helliwell did,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.32,0:12:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to take over the payment
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.54,0:13:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Kuomintang and other \Nrebels with heroin.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.74,0:13:05.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was just the way you did business.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.17,0:13:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we moved closer to the Vietnam era,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.36,0:13:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that trade began to expand
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.40,0:13:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the relationship\Nbetween CIA and the Mafia.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.06,0:13:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we get to the Vietnam War...
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.22,0:13:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, again, picture I'm drawing on the \Nboard up here some other names.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.14,0:13:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we fast-forward to the Vietnam era,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.35,0:13:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gonna write some other \Nnames in Southeast Asia:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.57,0:13:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Theodore Shackley: Station Chief \Nin Laos; later, Station Chief in Saigon.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.32,0:13:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard Secord: anybody ever \Nhear that name? (laughter) Nah.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.10,0:13:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard Armitage: anybody \Never hear that name?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.95,0:13:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eric von Marbod: anybody \Never hear {\i1}that{\i0} name?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.54,0:13:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK. von Marbod was in the military at\Nthe time, Department of Defense.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.38,0:13:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They all worked extremely \Nclosely together.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.30,0:13:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tom Clines is another one who was \NTed Shackley's deputy in Laos.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.77,0:13:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Extremely well-documented.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.50,0:13:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are still living witnesses.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.56,0:13:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are Air America pilots still alive
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.20,0:14:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who later became involved in Iran-Contra,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.55,0:14:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we ran the whole war in Laos...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.04,0:14:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- which was completely without, outside \Nof Congressional oversight --
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.50,0:14:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with heroin.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.99,0:14:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've all heard the stories about heroin
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.39,0:14:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming back in body cavities \Nin the dead GIs.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.22,0:14:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Air America: Air {\i1}Heroin{\i0}, OK? \NThe black planes.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.44,0:14:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the last 19 years, I have spoken \Nto more than a dozen members
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.11,0:14:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- former members --
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.62,0:14:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the US Army Special Forces, \Nthe Green Berets,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.09,0:14:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were sometimes ordered \Nto carry the heroin by CIA.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.50,0:14:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We ran this whole war there \Non heroin money.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.52,0:14:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That heroin money did not \Njust pay for the war:
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.02,0:14:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it paid for a lot of other things.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.92,0:14:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what happened is...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.43,0:14:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and the picture I want \Nto paint to you is --
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.17,0:14:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if anyone here is familiar \Nwith the disease of alcoholism? OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.80,0:14:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I happen to be an alcoholic.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.69,0:14:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sober 14 years, OK? \NSo I know a little bit about it. (applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.96,0:15:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happens is that it's \Na progressive disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.53,0:15:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is too many, and ten thousand \Nis not enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.58,0:15:09.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once you take a little,\Nyou have to take more,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.39,0:15:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's no way to stop \Nuntil you crash and burn,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.62,0:15:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until you eventually burn yourself out.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.29,0:15:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened in Vietnam \Nwas that by 1970,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.44,0:15:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the heroin trade had spilled over,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.72,0:15:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were selling it to our own GIs.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.78,0:15:26.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One third of the GIs in Vietnam were\Naddicted to heroin when they came back.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.99,0:15:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK? They were smoking it or tootin' it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.82,0:15:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'd get what's called \Na stomach jones, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.09,0:15:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that war continued, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.18,0:15:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the military-industrial complex \Nkind of milked it for all it was worth,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.42,0:15:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and until White Middle America \Ntook to the streets.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.78,0:15:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.99,0:15:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1975, it ended.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.46,0:15:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I'm gonna tell you about my story,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.34,0:15:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this is where I come\Ninto the picture.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.78,0:15:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I come from a CIA family.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.23,0:15:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was born in Washington, DC.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.94,0:15:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father was an Air Force officer; \Nhe worked for Martin-Marietta
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.31,0:16:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,building the Titan IIICs which \Nput up the Keyhole Spy Satellites.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.95,0:16:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father's cousin Barbara was CIA;
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.18,0:16:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her husband Sam had been OSS, \Neven before CIA.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.100,0:16:15.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They both did 25, 30 years and \Nretired from the Agency.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.35,0:16:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother had been Army Intelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.94,0:16:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working in the code-breaking section \Nin the Pentagon
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.82,0:16:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the Second World War.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.26,0:16:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I come from a family of spooks,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.68,0:16:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I will tell you: it was a \Ndysfunctional family. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.70,0:16:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was an honors student; I am an honors\Ngraduate in Political Science from UCLA.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.78,0:16:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went there from '69 to '73,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.54,0:16:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was one of two living Republicans
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.27,0:16:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the UCLA campus during\Nthose years. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.60,0:16:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other one was a guy by \Nthe name of Craig Fuller.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.94,0:16:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I was chosen to intern \Nfor Chief Ed David as LAPD,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.20,0:16:56.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having been groomed and \Nhaving already been spotted
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.31,0:17:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as part of -- what? -- the Establishment? \NThe in-crowd? An up-and-comer.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.94,0:17:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craig was chosen to intern \Nfor Governor Ronald Reagan.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.04,0:17:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craig was George Bush's Chief of Staff\Nduring Iran-Contra.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.06,0:17:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I was chosen to intern for Chief Davis, \NI began...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.70,0:17:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was exposed to people \Nfrom Army Intelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.21,0:17:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and an operation known as Garden Plot.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.62,0:17:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was told that I had a Q Clearance\Nwhen I was 20 years old,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.62,0:17:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had to go home and ask my father\Nwhat the hell a Q Clearance {\i1}was{\i0}:
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.82,0:17:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know!
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.61,0:17:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the Organized Crime \NIntelligence Division,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.46,0:17:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got exposed to one guy in particular
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.12,0:17:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the name of John Xavier Bach,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.43,0:17:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was told that he had... or, he \Nwas a CIA-connected guy in LAPD.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.14,0:17:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it gets to where I'm just about ready \Nto graduate from UCLA in 1973.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.40,0:17:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm {\i1}magna cum laude{\i0}, \Nand the world is my oyster.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.48,0:17:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had interned for LAPD for three years.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.42,0:17:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My family buys me a plane ticket;
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.71,0:17:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go back to Washington, DC,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.27,0:17:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I go for an interview with the CIA
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.83,0:17:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the old Executive Office Building.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.64,0:17:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here's this guy behind this desk
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.10,0:18:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this huge CIA emblem \Non the wall behind him.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.75,0:18:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "Mike, I've looked \Nat all your stuff."
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.19,0:18:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You're just a wonderful kid."
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.56,0:18:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You've got a great background; you're in\Ngreat shape..." you know, da-da-da.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.64,0:18:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What we'd like you to do is \Nto graduate from UCLA,"
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.09,0:18:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,join the CIA as a Case Officer...
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.81,0:18:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and a case officer is the highest\Nrank within the Agency;
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.27,0:18:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the highest {\i1}level{\i0};
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.39,0:18:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are levels above that, but \Nthat's the crème de la crème --
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.21,0:18:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And we want you to, then, after you're\Na CIA Case Officer, go back,"
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.75,0:18:29.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and go through the Los Angeles Police\NDepartment Academy,"
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.45,0:18:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and LAPD will be your cover."
Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.41,0:18:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sat through the interview,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.86,0:18:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got a stack of papers about\Nthat thick for my clearances,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.36,0:18:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, "Thank you very much,"
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.68,0:18:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I came back to LA, \Nand I threw 'em away.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.38,0:18:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "That's illegal. I don't want \Nanything to do with that."
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.09,0:18:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I joined LAPD in 1973, was Valedictorian \Nof my Academy class.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.65,0:18:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Went to work in an area \Ncalled The Jungle,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.88,0:18:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is down near Crenshaw \Nand Martin Luther King.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.38,0:18:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was having a great time:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.06,0:18:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a good cop; I loved it. \NI'd never had so much fun in my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.64,0:19:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it was what I wanted to do, \Nand I thrived on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.42,0:19:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I specialized in narcotics...
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.59,0:19:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and then I met and fell in love \Nwith a CIA agent.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.14,0:19:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She came to my regular old cop bar,\Nand we met and fell in love.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.53,0:19:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what we call the "unofficial \Nrecruitment." (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.10,0:19:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was more fun than the one in the office,\NI'll tell you that! (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.85,0:19:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she knew people in LAPD's \Nintelligence divisions.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.60,0:19:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't even know who they were.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.92,0:19:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She kept mentioning this General \Nby the name of Lee Goforth.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.14,0:19:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm going, "Well, who the heck is he?"
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.03,0:19:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, he's a General, and\Nhe deals with {\i1}terrorists{\i0}."
Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.91,0:19:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like, "Uh, well, that sounds great."
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.91,0:19:37.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then she'd mention organized \Ncrime figures:
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.51,0:19:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Carlos Marcello, New Orleans;
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.46,0:19:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hank Friedman, Dan Horowitz, \Nand other naems like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.64,0:19:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then she'd tell me things out of my\Nconfidential personnel package at LAPD.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.16,0:19:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are two packages: \None in your division,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.48,0:19:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a master one at Parker Center.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.55,0:19:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then after a while, \Nwhen we got engaged,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.44,0:19:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she said, "I work for the government."
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.71,0:20:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My people are very interested in having\Nyou go to work for me..." or, "for us."
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.18,0:20:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bada-bing, bada-boom: and \Nthen she started taking trips;
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.81,0:20:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she'd come back from Hawaii and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.14,0:20:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yeah, I was in this room, and there \Nwere 50 kilos of cocaine"
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.55,0:20:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And close to a thousand M-16s."
Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.71,0:20:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, me being a narc...
Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.05,0:20:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- by the way: LAPD, when I was in \NWatts and I confronted John Deutch said,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.06,0:20:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He's never worked narcotics." OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.42,0:20:26.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"United States Department of Justice \NDrug Enforcement Administration"
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.33,0:20:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Michael Craig Ruppert" \N-- that's me --
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.37,0:20:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't get it for writing \Nparking tickets.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.98,0:20:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just wanted to do that in case LAPD\Nwas watching. (applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.14,0:20:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Look, if I'm ever in a room \Nwith 50 kilos of cocaine,"
Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.19,0:20:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"somebody's going to jail!" (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.01,0:20:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, what's wrong with you people!\N
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.70,0:20:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, here I had been on loan \Nto Wilshire narcotics a few times,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.26,0:20:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,writing search warrants, \Nhappy to get an ounce,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.36,0:20:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she's talking about fifty keys!
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.34,0:20:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I, you know... "Wow!"
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.88,0:20:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, we never touch the drugs."
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.72,0:20:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What?"
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.21,0:21:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, we don't touch the drugs."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.27,0:21:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We kind of follow the guns."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.94,0:21:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"{\i1}Okay{\i0}. I'm not gonna get involved\Nin anything that overlooks drugs."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.92,0:21:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, she related the same stories \Nas having occured
Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.48,0:21:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Baja California;
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.35,0:21:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Del Rio, Texas;
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.58,0:21:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in The Bahamas;
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.84,0:21:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in New Orleans;
Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.70,0:21:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I kept saying...
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.84,0:21:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(responding to inaudible comment) \NOh, it was long before Mena.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.73,0:21:21.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was in 1976. \NWe hadn't even got to Mena yet.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.100,0:21:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I kept saying, "I'm not gonna..."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.83,0:21:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought it was some kind of {\i1}test!{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.59,0:21:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I thought they were\Ntesting my integrity.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.87,0:21:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm not gonna do {\i1}anything{\i0} \Nthat overlooks drugs."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.22,0:21:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Forget it: I'm a {\i1}cop!{\i0}"
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.15,0:21:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, after a while, it became clear\Nthat I was not gonna roll over,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.34,0:21:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she disappeared. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.02,0:21:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very suddenly.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.47,0:21:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right after she disappeared,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.84,0:21:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bunch of Italian thugs walked into \Nmy mother's real estate office.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.58,0:21:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I found myself on loan to \NOrganized Crime Intelligence Division.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.43,0:21:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And who do I find myself working with\Nbut a guy named Lee Goforth,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.74,0:21:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was a senior detective, Detective III \Nin Organized Crime Intelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.47,0:22:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a Brigadier General in \Nthe California National Guard.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.53,0:22:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was also LAPD's representative\Nto LEIU,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.19,0:22:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.84,0:22:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is very heavily influenced \Nby the alphabet soup.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.20,0:22:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His younger partner, Norm Bonneau,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.40,0:22:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who's in OCID but\NJohn Xavier Bach!
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.01,0:22:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, now I'm having all kinds \Nof weird things happen:
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.68,0:22:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hang-up phone calls, burglaries;
Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.99,0:22:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm getting followed;
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.74,0:22:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to spy on my mother, \Ngather intelligence.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.68,0:22:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a little stressful.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.21,0:22:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1977, I got burglarized.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.80,0:22:34.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, she left saying that someone was\Ntrying to kill her, and that was the cover.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.91,0:22:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody stole one of my guns;
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.23,0:22:38.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody stole a photograph of her;
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.25,0:22:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody got an address that I had\Njust gotten on her in New Orleans.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.69,0:22:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my Captain, who was, to this day,\None of the finest men I've ever known,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.11,0:22:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a guy by the name of Jesse Brewer,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.46,0:22:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was the black Police Commissioner\Nhere in Los Angeles
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.83,0:22:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the time of the riots
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.17,0:22:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- a wonderful human being --
Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.09,0:22:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,went to bat for me. He said,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.39,0:22:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Look, OCID is lying. What do you want?\NTake a vacation."
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.98,0:22:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to New Orleans. And that was\Nthe biggest mistake of my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.55,0:23:02.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to New Orleans, and she's got an\Napartment with a scrambler phone.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.93,0:23:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I didn't know what it was.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.36,0:23:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just like this eight-pound telephone
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.99,0:23:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that looks like a normal phone,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.50,0:23:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it has a little thing that you plug\Ninto a wall socket,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.03,0:23:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you plug that in.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.47,0:23:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had to describe it years later\Nto an Air Force officer.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.61,0:23:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "That's a KY3."
Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.21,0:23:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the time, it required a TS Clearance.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.78,0:23:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A TS or Crypto Clearance.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.91,0:23:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had this black night vision device\Nthat she carried around in a paper bag.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.24,0:23:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Naval and Air Force NCOs from\NBelle Chase Naval Air Station
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.98,0:23:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were bringing her communiqués.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.58,0:23:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was funny, because \Nthey'd be in civilian clothes,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.50,0:23:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they'd have the military shoes on
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.61,0:23:39.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their military ID card sticking up\Nout of their shirt pocket.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.41,0:23:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, great disguise! (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.26,0:23:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they'd bring these \Nsealed communiqués.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.66,0:23:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there was this guy \Nnamed Freddy
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.26,0:23:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been a veteran of the Third \NBattalion Fifth Special Forces,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.75,0:23:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who she went out with at night,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.60,0:23:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got to meet a whole \Nbunch of people
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.25,0:23:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that worked for a company \Nnamed Brown and Root.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.04,0:24:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Major CIA contractor. They built \NCam Rahn Bay.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.40,0:24:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are one the major homes \Nof sheep-dipped employees.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.52,0:24:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For those of you who don't know \Nwhat sheep-dipping is,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.77,0:24:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's when CIA takes a guy out \Nof the Agency spy school
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.25,0:24:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and puts them in IBM or some company\Nas their cover
Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.54,0:24:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go travel around the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.06,0:24:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all these people are \Nshipping out for Iran.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.56,0:24:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, by the way: I didn't mention
Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.95,0:24:21.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Teddy grew up with the \Nniece of the Shah of Iran,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.100,0:24:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she used to get letters \Nall the time from Iran,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.70,0:24:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Teddy was American.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.41,0:24:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one time the Shah's nephew, \NShahyar [Pahlbod]
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.83,0:24:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came and picked her up, \Ntook her out to dinner.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.46,0:24:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So anyway, I'm watching her \Nmake arrangements
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.59,0:24:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all kinds of guns to leave.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.16,0:24:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then later I'm hearing\Nher make arrangements
Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.94,0:24:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for certain packages to be dropped \Noff on oil rigs in the Gulf.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.03,0:24:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they would be stashed on the\Noil rigs, down on the pilings,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.91,0:24:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bubbleheads, as they call them
Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.30,0:24:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- deep-sea divers, hardhats --
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.85,0:24:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would go down and pull up \Nthe packages of heroin
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.69,0:24:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same time that a service boat \Ncoming out to bring food
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.90,0:25:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would arrive at the oil rig, not subject\Nto Customs search.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.68,0:25:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the divers would just toss \Nthe heroin, then home.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.99,0:25:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Carlos Marcello controlled the whole \Ndock operation in New Orleans,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.31,0:25:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so here I saw...
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.83,0:25:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the name CIA was dropped six \Nor seven times while I was there.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.08,0:25:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw scrambled communications, \Nand letterheads, and all this stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.15,0:25:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they were controlling an operation
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.46,0:25:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where drugs were going out \Nand guns were coming in.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.81,0:25:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is was in 1977.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.27,0:25:28.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So after eight days, I said, \N"Goodbye, I'm leaving"
Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.43,0:25:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't want anything to do\Nwith you people."
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.77,0:25:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for those of us who have \Nbeen through this,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.46,0:25:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is a very painful loss of innocence.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.39,0:25:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't tell you how painful it is to begin to\Ndiscover that your country is {\i1}really dirty{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.49,0:25:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you do it in stages. \NYou don't let go all at once.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.14,0:25:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came back, I told everybody, \N"Leave me alone," and they wouldn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.02,0:25:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kept getting followed, chased.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.96,0:25:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got shot at once in New Orleans.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.64,0:25:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would up going into a hospital \Nfor stress,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.72,0:25:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically because OCID said
Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.41,0:25:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were gonna commit me under one \Nof {\i1}their{\i0} psychiatrists. (crowd murmurs)
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.28,0:26:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "OK, I'm going into \Nmy own hospital."
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.25,0:26:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got tested eight ways from Sunday,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.18,0:26:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they said I was perfectly sane,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.76,0:26:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I fought a little battle \Nand was injured on duty.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.02,0:26:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I returned, earned the highest rating \Nreports possible in LAPD;
Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.82,0:26:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was about to be promoted; was \Non staff at the Police Academy:
Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.82,0:26:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Iranian Revolution broke loose.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.36,0:26:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started to make some more \Nconnections,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.21,0:26:22.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's when I started getting\Ndeath threats, and burglarized.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.11,0:26:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wound up taking a tape-recorded \Neath threat,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.34,0:26:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I asked to see Chief Daryl Gates.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.55,0:26:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where do you go if Organized Crime\NIntelligence is lying to you?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.73,0:26:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In LAPD, there is no place else\Nyou go but the Chief.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.40,0:26:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I've got a problem."
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.86,0:26:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because Daryl Gates had just\Nbeen made Chief,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.83,0:26:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his bodyguard-driver was a guy
Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.75,0:26:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the name of John Xavier Bach. \N(crowd murmers)
Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.12,0:26:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I can't see Daryl while \NBach's there, because he's CIA."
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.83,0:26:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got a message back from \NSergeant Pickering,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.33,0:26:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a friend of mine who had \Nrelayed the message:
Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.25,0:26:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, the chief realizes that somebody \Nmay be trying to kill you."
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.74,0:26:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He's kind of busy. He can give you five\Nor ten minutes in a week or ten days."
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.81,0:27:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Would you like to make \Nan appointment?"
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.56,0:27:06.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanna show you something.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.45,0:27:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gonna being giving this out \Nat the press conference
Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.51,0:27:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the rally that we're doing \Nthis weekend.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.27,0:27:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is from the {\i1}Los Angeles Times{\i0}, and\Nthe date on this is November 17th, 1984:
Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.18,0:27:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Officers' Moonlighting Probed."
Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.48,0:27:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you read this, it talks about \Na Detective
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.50,0:27:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who went back to Organized Crime \NIntelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.02,0:27:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,named John Xavier Bach.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.53,0:27:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it says... it says here... it says...
Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.00,0:27:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Copies of official records of the \NCalifornia Department of Justice that"
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.90,0:27:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"contain information about criminal \Nhistory"
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.63,0:27:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"of members of the Jewish \NDefense League..." da-da-da,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.37,0:27:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"government code," da-da-da...\NOK:
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.11,0:27:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"turned over a transcript of the \Nconversation between Glalley and Earl (sp)
Dialogue: 0,0:27:50.66,0:27:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to an employee of the \NCentral Intelligence Agency
Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.77,0:27:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whom Ripaski (sp) identified\Nas Jack Harmeyer (sp).
Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.61,0:27:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was moonlighting for the Central \NIntelligence Agency on city time,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.87,0:28:04.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was convicted in \Nmunicipal court, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.85,0:28:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No corroboration for my story \Nwhatsoever, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.11,0:28:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not according to the {\i1}LA Times{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.42,0:28:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had alleged in 1978 \Nthat he was CIA, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.38,0:28:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I wound up resigning.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.73,0:28:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got an attorney,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.73,0:28:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got an attorney who was \Na former FBI Intelligence agent.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.15,0:28:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.58,0:28:25.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't hold it against me. \NLook we have to learn...
Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.100,0:28:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was way ahead of you guys on this,\Nyou know. This was in '78.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.80,0:28:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to the FBI, went to Sam Hayakawa,\NBob Dornin, Alan Cranston. (sp)
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.13,0:28:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sam Hayakawa was a very gracious \Nand wonderful gentleman.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.49,0:28:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was the only elected official \Nwho ever went to bat for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.22,0:28:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In all these years, he is the {\i1}only{\i0} \None who ever did.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.21,0:28:47.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway: got on the record \Nwherever I could,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.27,0:28:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I documented everything \NI had seen in New Orleans.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.84,0:28:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So sum up: the points that I made in\Nfour-and-a-half hour complaint to the FBI
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.40,0:28:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I later made to a reporter David\NRosensweig (sp) at the {\i1}LA Times{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.81,0:29:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- who, until recently, was Assistant\NManaging Editor at the {\i1}LA Times{\i0} --
Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.13,0:29:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to all the Congresspeople, \Nto everything else, I said:
Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.45,0:29:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Carlos Marcello, guns, drugs, CIA, Hawaii,\NCalifornia, Mexico, submarines,"
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.02,0:29:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Texas, Louisiana, terrorism, \Nand rebel groups"
Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.66,0:29:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was in 1978.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.92,0:29:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Item from the {\i1}Los Angeles Times{\i0}:
Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.98,0:29:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- you're gonna love this one --
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.52,0:29:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Guns for drugs trade booming, \Nreports disclose.'
Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.06,0:29:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From {\i1}Newsday{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.08,0:29:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Times{\i0} didn't write it, but they \Nreprinted this story from {\i1}Newsday{\i0}, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.51,0:29:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what it says is: "Carlos Marcello, \Nguns, drugs, terrorist groups,"
Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.94,0:29:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Baja California, submarines, Texas, \NLouisiana, The Bahamas..."
Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.50,0:29:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything I had said a year before.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.41,0:29:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The {\i1}LA Times{\i0} said, "There's no \Nstory here!" (laughter, murmuring)
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.66,0:29:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No corroboration.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.21,0:29:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David Rosenzweig (sp), after this \Ncame out, was promoted
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.16,0:30:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Staff Writer to \NAssistant City Editor, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.98,0:30:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I called the writer for that story, \NTom Renard (sp),
Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.15,0:30:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I mentioned the name Bonneau.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.24,0:30:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Wait a minute: LAPD, Bonneau?"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.54,0:30:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- turned through his pages --
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.69,0:30:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I've got this guy Bonneau's name"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.02,0:30:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"in connection with a CIA machine gun\Nfactory in Mexico."
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.20,0:30:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- "Uh, wait a minute. OK." --
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.63,0:30:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he says, "Call this investigator,\NBill Christianson, who's working for"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.75,0:30:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Deconcini's [Sub-]Committee on Improvements in Judicial Machinery"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.33,0:30:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Great name.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.12,0:30:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I call Christianson up and\NI run through all the stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.60,0:30:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I know: CIA is dealing drugs.\NThey're protecting Marcello.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.76,0:30:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're hand-in-glove;
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.87,0:30:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're partners, and CIA is \Nprofiting from the deals, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.47,0:30:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I call Christianson, I lay it out.\NHe says,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.96,0:30:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You're right! My offices are bugged;\NI'm getting followed;"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.84,0:30:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We were burglarized last week."
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.71,0:30:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a Senate investigator. \NThis is 1979. OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.04,0:30:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "We'll get you back\Nhere to testify."
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.64,0:30:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the first time I was \Npromised I could testify.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.65,0:30:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A short time later, I had to start\Nlooking for a job.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.60,0:30:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a writer.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.65,0:31:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had been laid off from one writing job,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.99,0:31:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I couldn't find a job \Nanywhere in this city.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.55,0:31:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would see unmarked\NLAPD cars turning up
Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.60,0:31:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outside of places where \NI would go for interviews.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.01,0:31:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After about three weeks, \NI took a job at a 7-11 store,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.16,0:31:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I needed to eat.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.95,0:31:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My first day on the job, \Nsomebody calls up and says,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.17,0:31:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Is Mike Ruppert working today?"
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.80,0:31:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My second day on the job,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.64,0:31:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was arrested for selling \Nliquor to a minor.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.88,0:31:27.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second time I was shot at: \Nafter that, I was dead drunk.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.19,0:31:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was on my lawn.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.29,0:31:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I really didn't care much \Nanymore, and somebody shot at me.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.86,0:31:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't even bother \Nto report it at that time.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.27,0:31:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just ready to give up.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.14,0:31:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can't give up.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.91,0:31:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what I found out.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.46,0:31:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.78,0:31:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish I had a choice.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.97,0:31:48.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really do wish I had a choice.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.89,0:31:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I kept pursuing and pursuing \Nand pursuing,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.65,0:31:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eventually one reporter,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.05,0:32:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the days when we had a paper \Nin this town... (laughter) (applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.54,0:32:07.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Randall Sullivan.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.13,0:32:09.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made the front page of the {\i1}Herald Examiner{\i0} two Sundays in a row,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.98,0:32:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,October 11th and October 18th, 1981.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.23,0:32:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a full page.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.09,0:32:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love this part: it says, "Mike Ruppert,\Nperhaps LAPD's most intelligent officer."
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.58,0:32:19.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really like that one.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.24,0:32:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I'm so intelligent, \Nwhat am I doing this for?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.91,0:32:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, it lays out all this stuff about CIA.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.94,0:32:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It actually even finally mentioned\Ndown here
Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.12,0:32:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- after the end of two parts \Nin two weeks --
Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.79,0:32:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CIA dealing drugs.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.72,0:32:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I am on the record in October of 1981.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.15,0:32:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I even have documents back from the\NFBI saying that I said it back in 1980.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.47,0:32:43.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I do have a claim to some \Nseniority here. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.65,0:32:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What that gets me, I have no idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.80,0:32:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, by this time, Ronald Reagan\Nis President.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.49,0:32:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craig Fuller is Assistant to President \NReagan for Cabinet Affairs.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.03,0:32:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craig Fuller's name turns up \Nin this article.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:59.32,0:33:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a letter from Craig:
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.76,0:33:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Any time you're in Washington, \Ncome and see me."
Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.28,0:33:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'd love to see ya."
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.66,0:33:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I fly back with Part Two \Nunder my arm.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.72,0:33:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,October 26, 1981, I am invited into \Nthe West Wing of the White House.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.17,0:33:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(silence; single audience \Nmember whistles)
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.81,0:33:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I get into the basement.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.64,0:33:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the Senate was gonna say that...
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.61,0:33:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Senate Intelligence was gonna \Nsay I was never there,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.41,0:33:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because two original White House letters\Nwere burglarized from my home
Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.14,0:33:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just three months ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.20,0:33:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same day that a senior investigator
Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.77,0:33:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Senate Select Al Cummings
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.16,0:33:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called me and asked me if I had original\Nletters on White House stationery.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.40,0:33:34.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(audience murmurs)
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.100,0:33:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's been very helpful, \Nby the way, though.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.58,0:33:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, he told LAPD he was\Ndoing an active investigation:
Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.13,0:33:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yeah, we were trying to get \Nthese letters,"
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.80,0:33:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and everything Mike said is true,"
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.74,0:33:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and we had trouble faxing them,"
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.05,0:33:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all kinds of shit.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:46.90,0:33:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Excuse me: I said a bad word.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.13,0:33:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So anyway, I get into Craig's office,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.04,0:33:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just for the record, Craig's office:
Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.46,0:33:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're looking at the West Wing, \Nyou go in through the portico.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.12,0:33:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You take a hard right past \Nthe receptionist,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.68,0:34:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on the far side of the reception area,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:01.34,0:34:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a very steep and \Nnarrow staircase,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.67,0:34:06.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's built over so many years.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.37,0:34:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go down to the bottom \Nof the staircase;
Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.33,0:34:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take a hard right and come back,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.73,0:34:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he had the corner office facing\NPennsylvania Avenue and 17th.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.13,0:34:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell me I wasn't there, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.41,0:34:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sat in his office and\Nwe talked for a while,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.24,0:34:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I said,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.19,0:34:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craig, look: CIA's really heavily\Ninfiltrated LAPD,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:24.55,0:34:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and CIA is complicit in bringing \Ndrugs into this country,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.94,0:34:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:29.38,0:34:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'll tell you exactly \Nwhat Craig said:
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.27,0:34:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(silence)
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.89,0:34:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.01,0:34:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did not move; he did not breathe; \Nhe did not {\i1}anything{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.69,0:34:44.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until I changed the subject, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.65,0:34:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not:
Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.08,0:34:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh my God, I'm a public servant!"
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.51,0:34:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What you're alleging is a great \Noutrage to the American people."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.01,0:34:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It's offense to the Constitution \Nand any sense of decency"
Dialogue: 0,0:34:52.84,0:34:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"possessed by any human being \Nanywhere in the world."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.44,0:34:55.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not:
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.87,0:34:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My God, this is terrible! Somebody \Nneeds to look into this! This is awful!"
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.92,0:35:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He just sat stone silent.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.82,0:35:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then George Bush made him his \NChief of Staff in the second Reagan term.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.92,0:35:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I remember walking out of the \NWhite House and saying to myself,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.15,0:35:18.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Self, where do I go now?"
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.89,0:35:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I came back to Los Angeles,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.52,0:35:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was one of the several times\NI tried to put all this behind me.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.81,0:35:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, events just \Nkept catching up again,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.06,0:35:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in 1981 Oliver North\Nwas just getting started.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.96,0:35:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, in January of '82, I went to UCLA
Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.62,0:35:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- which was my school --
Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.14,0:35:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I sought out the ranking expert \Non Middle East affairs
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.36,0:35:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Political Science department,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.94,0:35:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a guy named Paul Jabber.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.78,0:35:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're gonna love this one, this story!
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.66,0:35:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I go to Paul Jabber's office.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.80,0:35:48.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, by now I've pieced \Nsome stuff together
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.58,0:35:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about why the guns are going \Nand where they're going.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.48,0:35:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've narrowed it down to probably \Nthe Kurds, maybe the Baluchis,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.72,0:36:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it had to do with arming a group \Nin Iran to fight somebody...
Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.89,0:36:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- excuse me --
Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.36,0:36:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mildly in connection, maybe, \Nwith the revolution,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.07,0:36:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I wasn't sure.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.22,0:36:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I had names of people like Shackley\N-- and we'll get to that in a minute.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.11,0:36:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, he says, "My God, Mike: \Nyour analysis is brilliant!"
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.92,0:36:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Did you know, by the way, \Nhat I was a CIA consultant"
Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.97,0:36:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and a State Department consultant \Nfor Jimmy Carter?" (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.29,0:36:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you ever feel like God's following \Nyou around with this stuff? (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.58,0:36:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "No..."
Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.58,0:36:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, \N"Listen: I have secrecy oaths,"
Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.32,0:36:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and I have these agreements \Nthat I've signed."
Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.68,0:36:34.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't {\i1}tell{\i0} you outright;
Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.75,0:36:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but why don't you go read the \N{\i1}New York Times{\i0} on these dates,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.65,0:36:41.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,articles by C. L. Sulzberger and \NWilliam Safire,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.69,0:36:45.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and look up the Kurds,\Nand tell me what you think.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.37,0:36:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went and did it, and I \Npieced it all together.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.98,0:36:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happened was, \Non March 3, 1975...
Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.27,0:36:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- March 3, 1975: April, 1975 \Nis when Saigon fell.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.76,0:36:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember the context of history. --
Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.83,0:37:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,March 3, 1975: the Shah of Iran \Nand Saddam Hussein
Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.56,0:37:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signed the Treaty of Algiers.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.92,0:37:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had been arming the Kurds for \Ndecades to fight against Iraq
Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.04,0:37:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that Iraq could not attack Israel, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.18,0:37:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through Iraq. And what\Nthe Shah said was,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.82,0:37:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S"Saddam, if you give me the \Nhatt al-Arab waterway,"
Dialogue: 0,0:37:19.81,0:37:23.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I can double my oil exports, and\NI'll cut off all aid to the Kurds,"
Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.33,0:37:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and you can massacre them,"
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.42,0:37:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and then your army's free to do\Nwhatever you want to do."
Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.68,0:37:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they shook hands at the \NTreaty of Algiers: March 3, '75.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.03,0:37:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within weeks, about 8-10,000 Kurds \Nwere massacred.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.38,0:37:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I pieced it together, and I \Nwent back to Paul Jabber,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.23,0:37:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said,\N"Well, what happened was, then,"
Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.44,0:37:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"in order to keep the Kurds alive,"
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.07,0:37:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"they used the opium-smuggling \Nroutes..."
Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.14,0:37:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- Kurdistan being, by the way,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.36,0:37:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the second-largest opium-growing\Nregion in the world --
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.01,0:37:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"to smuggle out opium, \Nwhich was made into heroin"
Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.74,0:37:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and sold here to buy the guns\Nto keep the Kurds alive."
Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.76,0:37:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "You're absolutely right."
Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.91,0:37:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The decision was made at the \NNational Security Council level..."
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.98,0:38:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- read that, folks: that's \Nthe White House! --
Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.55,0:38:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to sell heroin to American citizens\Nto keep the Kurds alive. OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.70,0:38:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man in audience) Maybe \Nthat was just a pretext!
Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.90,0:38:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Moving right on. \NDo you guys pay him, or what?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.35,0:38:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter, applause) \NOK.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.15,0:38:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember Southeast Asia here,\Nwhere I wrote some names
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.64,0:38:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Ted Shackley, Tom Clines, \NRichard Secord?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.31,0:38:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened in 1975?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.47,0:38:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Vietnam War ended.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:24.77,0:38:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ted Shackley moved and became \NDeputy Director of Central Intelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.00,0:38:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in charge of covert operations \Nfor the Middle East.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.37,0:38:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard Secord was transfered \Nto Iran as the Air Attaché.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.87,0:38:39.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard Armitage was transferred to Iran
Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.41,0:38:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on missions connected with \Nbanking and finance.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.70,0:38:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this beginning to sound familiar here?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.47,0:38:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there a pattern shaping up h\Nere somewhere? OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:49.33,0:38:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same players from Southeast Asia\Nmoved to Iran.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.62,0:38:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same players from Iran in 1980\Nmoved into Pakistan
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.79,0:38:59.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the Russians invaded Afghanistan.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.41,0:39:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everywhere these people go, there is\Na huge boom in the drug trade.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.44,0:39:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pakistan, before the invasion \Nby the Soviets,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.16,0:39:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had supplied zero percent \Nf American heroin.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.04,0:39:14.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(man in audience) You mean \NAfghanistan.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.71,0:39:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afghanistan: well, no. \NThey had invaded Afghanistan,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.94,0:39:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but all of the American supply operations\Nwere run from Pakistan.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.82,0:39:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The {\i1}mujahideen{\i0} were armed \Nthrough American bases in Pakistan
Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.77,0:39:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over into the border.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:27.36,0:39:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the middle of that conflict,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.60,0:39:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,40 to 60 percent of the heroin \Nn this country
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.12,0:39:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was coming from -- guess where? -- Pakistan. Duh!
Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.16,0:39:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, now we move to Iran-Contra.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.24,0:39:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Bowen Amendment says, \N"No more lethal aid to the Contras."
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.98,0:39:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Cut 'em off."
Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.68,0:39:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Reagan says, "We'll go private..."
Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.92,0:39:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oliver North, by the way, started to get\Ninvolved back in Iran and Pakistan.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.83,0:39:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He starts cropping up.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.96,0:40:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we have the Contra\Nsupply operation.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.67,0:40:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And who do we find?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.59,0:40:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- Oh, by the way: John Singlaub \Nwent to the Middle East, too --
Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.73,0:40:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, who do we find cropping \Nup in Iran-Contra?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.24,0:40:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Singlaub, Richard Secord, \NTed Shackley, Richard Armitage...
Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.73,0:40:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the same people. Oliver North,\Nagain: the same people
Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.50,0:40:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- for 40 years, 50 years --
Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.10,0:40:22.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been doing the same thing. OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.35,0:40:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we get to Iran-Contra.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.72,0:40:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not gonna spend\Na great deal of time
Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.22,0:40:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on all this stuff that's already out.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.34,0:40:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will give you one specific\Ncase illustrating,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.64,0:40:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the case of Juan Ramón \NMatta-Ballesteros, of Honduras.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.03,0:40:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And during the early years of the\NIran-Contra era,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.66,0:40:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Honduras was supplying \Napproximately 50 percent
Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.99,0:40:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the cocaine consumed i\Nn this country,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.37,0:40:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through Matta-Ballesteros.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.57,0:40:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Duane Clarridge, CIA Station Chief,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.30,0:40:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had contracted with \NMatta's airline, SETCO,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:55.07,0:40:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for exclusive contracting for \NContra supply operations.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:59.72,0:41:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DEA station in Honduras was \Nordered closed in 1982.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:07.64,0:41:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Juan Ramón Matta-Ballesteros \Nwas very closely connected
Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.14,0:41:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a Mexican cartel run by \NFelix Gallardo and Rafael Caro Quintero.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.70,0:41:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody remember Kiki Camerena?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.19,0:41:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kiki Camerena was investigating\NGallardo and Quintero.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.32,0:41:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was chasing a CIA drug ring \Nwhen he was murdered.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:27.96,0:41:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have found one of the men, \Nthe CIA agents,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.58,0:41:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was on the mission where\NKiki was murdered.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.73,0:41:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're gonna get into that in a second.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.73,0:41:34.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I want to backtrack a little bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.94,0:41:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot has been overlooked about the\Nrole of the US military in drug-dealing,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.68,0:41:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as ordered by the CIA.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.90,0:41:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over 20 years of my investigations,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.86,0:41:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I see is several things.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.07,0:41:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, what I call the \N"shadow government,"
Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.12,0:41:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which includes many agencies...
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.01,0:41:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- DIA, Defense Department, NSA... \Nthey're everywhere, OK? --
Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.04,0:41:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had used large components \Nof the military.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.75,0:42:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many people here... let me ask:
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.08,0:42:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is anyone here familiar with \Nthe Watchtower missions?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.45,0:42:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see a couple of hands. OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:05.62,0:42:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Watchtower missions took \Nplace in the mid- to late-'70s.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.27,0:42:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Elements of the Seventh Special \NForces Group Airborne
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.76,0:42:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were ordered from Panama by a guy\Nby the name of Edwin Wilson
Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.74,0:42:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on orders from a guy by the name \Nof Tom Clines
Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.65,0:42:22.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- Ted Shackley's deputy; Ted Shackley\Nis now out of the agency --
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.73,0:42:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take Special Action Teams into \NColombia and plant radar beacons,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.20,0:42:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the cocaine flights can fly below radar\Nand land at Albrook Airfield in Panama.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.40,0:42:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Special Forces troops were there,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:35.72,0:42:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including one William Tyree,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.41,0:42:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Manuel Noriega meets the aircraft,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.30,0:42:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along with Ed Wilson and a \Nguy named Michael Harari
Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.04,0:42:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Israeli Mossad, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.49,0:42:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were three series \Nof these missions,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.76,0:42:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each commanded by a different \NSpecial Forces Colonel.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:50.66,0:42:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of these Special Forces \NColonels are dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.25,0:42:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, there are five Special Forces\NColonels who have been murdered:
Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.39,0:43:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Baker, Rowe, Cutolo, Malvesti, \Nand Bayard, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.79,0:43:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was...
Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.01,0:43:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it centers around an affidavit
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.63,0:43:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called the Cutolo Affadavit.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.75,0:43:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are some of my documents \Nrelevant to Watchtower.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.80,0:43:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll tell you right up front \Nthat the affadavit of Ed Cutolo,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.51,0:43:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colonel at Tenth Special Forces,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.16,0:43:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- he went from the Seventh \Nto the Tenth --
Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.09,0:43:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the cover sheet:
Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.95,0:43:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was not written by \NColonel Edward Cutolo.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.95,0:43:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the reasons why I know that
Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.03,0:43:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because he refers to the\NPanamanian Defense Forces,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:32.18,0:43:33.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Ed Cutolo was murdered in 1980,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.100,0:43:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they weren't named the Panamanian\NDefense Forces until '85. OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.58,0:43:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But everything in his affidavit\Nhas been corroborated.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.05,0:43:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He left files with people at the NSA,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.49,0:43:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I know who the people are.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.80,0:43:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we're not gonna discuss\Nnames there.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.70,0:43:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every aspect of the Watchtower missions\Nhas been corroborated independently
Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.11,0:43:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by other affidavits.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.02,0:44:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We fast-forward to 1978, 1979, '80.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.44,0:44:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cutolo is now commander of\NTenth Special Forces Group Airborne
Dialogue: 0,0:44:05.24,0:44:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Fort Devens, Massachusetts.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.86,0:44:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have an operation \Nknown as Orwell.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.15,0:44:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Due to the massive CIA drug operations,\Nthey were afraid of leaks.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.97,0:44:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now remember, when I left LAPD, \Nit was November 30, 1978.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.05,0:44:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Orwell was at its peak then.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.18,0:44:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Army Security Agency, \NSpecial Forces personnel,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.04,0:44:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,military intelligence personnel were \Nordered to bug and wiretap courthouses,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.68,0:44:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politicians, anybody who had \Nany knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:29.100,0:44:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have affidavits from people
Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.33,0:44:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who pulled mics out of courthouse \Nwalls in Massachusetts.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.68,0:44:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They did John Kerry.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:37.03,0:44:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They did Tip O'Neill.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.02,0:44:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They did anybody, any politician who \Nmight expose these operations.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.30,0:44:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, we have a Sergeant Bill Tyree \Nwho was on these missions,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:45.36,0:44:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been on the missions\Nin Central America,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.35,0:44:50.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been ordered to do \Nthese surveillances,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.46,0:44:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and he wanted out.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.34,0:44:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He got sick to his stomach.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.22,0:44:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'd had enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.10,0:44:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was not America to him.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.61,0:44:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His wife had been keeping diaries.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.40,0:45:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They murdered his wife, \Nand they framed him for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.14,0:45:06.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have affidavits from people saying \Nhe wasn't even at the murder scene.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.67,0:45:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a letter from the District \NAttorney who prosecuted the case,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.75,0:45:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was gay,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.85,0:45:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was being blackmailed \Nby Special Forces saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.06,0:45:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Please destroy the videotape showing \Nthe murderer other than Tyree"
Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.54,0:45:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"coming out of the bedroom window."
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.49,0:45:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.04,0:45:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's so much proof that...
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.98,0:45:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's been in prison now eighteen years.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.46,0:45:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talked to him yesterday. OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.09,0:45:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as we move along with this case,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.31,0:45:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we get more and more information \Nabout Watchtower.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.55,0:45:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This -- I will hold up for you here --
Dialogue: 0,0:45:35.85,0:45:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is what the Army has to say \Nabout Watchtower (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.14,0:45:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then they say it never existed; \Nit just wasn't there.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.50,0:45:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Central Intelligence Agency -- if I \Ncan find it quickly, and I probably can't --
Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.61,0:45:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I have documents that he got from\Nthe Central Intelligence Agency
Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.65,0:45:59.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that says, "There was no\NWatchtower mission."
Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.100,0:46:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- it's a six-page letter in reponse to his\NFreedom of Information Act Request --
Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.65,0:46:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They go through three-and-a-half \Npages of "There is no Watchtower,"
Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.12,0:46:07.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then -- badda-bing, badda-boom --
Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.35,0:46:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it says at the end, "We are reviewing \Nall of our Watchtower documents"
Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.82,0:46:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"because we've had so many requests\Nfor them; and as soon as..."
Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.08,0:46:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they wrote him and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.27,0:46:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can we have our last letter back?"
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.45,0:46:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Believe it or not, they did. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.42,0:46:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These people are not as smart\Nas we give them credit for.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.46,0:46:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause) They use fear as a tool, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.22,0:46:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is so much evidence \Nabout Watchtower.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.36,0:46:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have spoken to many \NSpecial Forces people.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.76,0:46:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This came out, by the way, through \NBo Gritz, who I've met several times,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:39.81,0:46:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after Paul Neary of the National Security\NAgency died of natural causes,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.88,0:46:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was forwarded to Bo,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.03,0:46:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Bo started to release \Nit in the early '90s.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.63,0:46:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there is a ton...
Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.94,0:46:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if this guy ever gets a trial, \Nhe's free.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.44,0:46:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And In my speech Saturday at the rally,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:57.44,0:46:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to be talking about Bill Tyree.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:59.72,0:47:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to be talking about the twelve\Nor so members of Special Forces
Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.50,0:47:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have shared with me\Nthe shame they carry
Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.46,0:47:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at having been ordered\Nto do things like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.21,0:47:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I want to get to someone who's \Neven gonna make you feel worse,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.43,0:47:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if that's possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.99,0:47:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.13,0:47:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pardon me, I'm gonna hit the glass.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:31.86,0:47:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a guy that I get to take credit\Nfor discovering all by myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.13,0:47:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, I have such wonderful luck.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:37.32,0:47:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colonel Albert Vincent Carone.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.09,0:47:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this copyrighted report\Nthat I wrote in 1994,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.21,0:47:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I called him the missing link
Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.26,0:47:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between Iran-Contra cocaine operations\Nand organized crime.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.99,0:47:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This man was 20 years with the \NNew York Police Department,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.85,0:47:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a detective,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.47,0:48:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who happened to be involved in \Na couple of very key NYPD cases
Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.79,0:48:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,known as The French Connection \Nand The Prince of the City,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:05.93,0:48:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for which my colleague Jimmy Rothstein\N, a retired NYPD detective,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.27,0:48:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deserves great credit as having \Nuncovered the CIA links to both cases.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.76,0:48:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a picture of Colonel Albert \NCarone after his retirement from NYPD.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.76,0:48:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was caught sodomizing\Ntwo twelve-year-old boys,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.92,0:48:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they gave him a pension.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.71,0:48:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had been a bagman and a CIA \Noperative for his whole career.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:30.10,0:48:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is the counterpart in NYPD
Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.43,0:48:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for what they wanted me and others \Nto do at LAPD,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.56,0:48:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except for... this guy died, \Nby the way, in 1990.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.42,0:48:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've held his personal phone book \Nin my hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.23,0:48:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me backtrack again:
Dialogue: 0,0:48:43.47,0:48:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the death certificate when he died: \Nwe call it "the CIA flu."
Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.46,0:48:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The death certificate read \N"chemical toxicity of unknown etiology,"
Dialogue: 0,0:48:55.76,0:48:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.13,0:49:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His liver and brain self-destructed \Nover a period of six months,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.31,0:49:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no doctor, of about eleven \Ndoctors who treated him,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.58,0:49:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could figure out what was causing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.83,0:49:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've held his phone book in my hand, \NColonel Albert Carone,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.40,0:49:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in that phone book, I found William\NCasey's home phone number
Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.51,0:49:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Locust Valley, Long Island.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.69,0:49:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found the home phone number\Nfor Paulie Castellano.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.49,0:49:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody know who Paulie Castellano is?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:26.24,0:49:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's the guy who took over \Nthe Gambino crime family.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.78,0:49:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Matty the Horse" Ianniello.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.78,0:49:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pete Licavoli.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.45,0:49:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More mobsters than you \Ncan shake a stick at.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.16,0:49:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I found a couple other \Nnames in the phone book.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.94,0:49:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Go back to Southeast Asia: remember \Nwhat I wrote on the board up here?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.87,0:49:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul Helliwell and Richard Stillwell: \Nhome phone numbers.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:49.95,0:49:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also key players in a bank called the\NNugan-Hand bank, out of Australia,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.06,0:49:58.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was the CIA's drug bank, who had\NBill Colby as its chief counsel.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.44,0:50:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, this is a clue! This is a clue! OK... \N(laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:50:03.36,0:50:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went on a mission to Mexico in 1985
Dialogue: 0,0:50:06.45,0:50:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a guy named James Robert Strauss.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.14,0:50:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- I have no idea how long \NI've been going --
Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.83,0:50:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Host) You're OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:11.64,0:50:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK. James Robert Strauss: \Nwho used to brag about
Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.69,0:50:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having taken quiet walks on the beach\Nwith Richard Nixon.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:20.48,0:50:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope they weren't {\i1}too{\i0} close. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.95,0:50:26.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he came back from \Nthis mission saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:26.33,0:50:28.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My God! We killed two DEA agents."
Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.39,0:50:32.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We massacred a whole bunch \Nof innocent civilians in Chiapas."
Dialogue: 0,0:50:32.65,0:50:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- you know that there's a revolution \Ngoing on in Chiapas, now --
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.08,0:50:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And I've lost my stomach: \NI can't do this anymore."
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.72,0:50:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had been laundering cocaine profits\Nfrom the CIA through the Mafia
Dialogue: 0,0:50:44.32,0:50:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for about 25, 30 years,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.75,0:50:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he lost his stomach.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:51.60,0:50:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not after sodomizing the boys, \Nor killing people, or anything,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.17,0:50:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when two DEA agents finally killed,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.91,0:50:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something finally clicked: \N"something is wrong."
Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.89,0:51:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do we have any other evidence, \Nby the way?
Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.79,0:51:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is one of the pages from \None of his surviving passports.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.02,0:51:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anybody knows anything \Nabout passports,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.40,0:51:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had a black one,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:08.82,0:51:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had a maroon one,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:10.56,0:51:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had a green one,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.69,0:51:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he had a blue one...
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.37,0:51:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- in three different names.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:16.47,0:51:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's a passport stamp showing\Nthree-day circuits
Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.88,0:51:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from John F. Kennedy, to London Heathrow,\Nto Nassau, the Bahamas.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:24.90,0:51:26.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could he have been laundering stuff?
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.33,0:51:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.94,0:51:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have some bank account \Nnumbers at NatWest,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.22,0:51:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the National Bank of Westminster,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.20,0:51:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Coutts & Co., one of which is still live.\NHis daughter has it.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.89,0:51:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have military records.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.09,0:51:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have travel records from \NStrauss, Downing and Associates.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.35,0:51:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His partner had an insurance company,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.90,0:51:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but for a guy who sold insurance \Ndomestically,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.22,0:51:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why would he need to go to \NJohannesburg; Hong Kong; London;
Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.48,0:52:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kuala Lumpur; Seoul; Luanda, Angola; \Nthe Jersey Islands
Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.70,0:52:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- they do a lot of laundering in the \NJersey Islands off the British coast --
Dialogue: 0,0:52:03.55,0:52:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Casablanca; Madrid... and then I've got\Nfive pages of travel records.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:10.90,0:52:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Albert Carone died of chemical \Ntoxicity of unknown etiology,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.78,0:52:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,several things happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.59,0:52:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every military record of \Nthe guy disappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.62,0:52:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His New York Police pension \Ndisappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.20,0:52:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His bank accounts disappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.23,0:52:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His insurance policies disappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.86,0:52:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His driver's license record \Nin New Mexico disappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.63,0:52:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every record of this man
Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.99,0:52:41.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was sanitized in the space \Nof three weeks.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.15,0:52:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His daughter, Dee Carone Ferdinand
Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.58,0:52:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- whom I love dearly, and who is \None of my closest friends --
Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.73,0:52:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was left utterly broke and bankrupt: \Nwiped out.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:49.01,0:52:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She wrote to Pete Domenici's office \Nand sent a picture of this phtograph,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:53.26,0:52:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying, "My father was a Colonel."
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.81,0:52:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Army said, \N"He was a Sergeant in World War II,"
Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.27,0:52:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what they buried him as: \Na Master Sergeant.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:59.37,0:53:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pete Domenici's office called her back\Nand said, "He rented the uniform."
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.22,0:53:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK. All right, well, then we'll just have \Nto assume that twelve years earlier,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.62,0:53:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he rented a uniform as a Major.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:10.99,0:53:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With exactly the same decorations. \NHmm.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:19.58,0:53:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She really went to bat, because \Neverything was sanitized.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.53,0:53:28.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she admits that her father \Nwas not a good man,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.55,0:53:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but everything that he had left her\Nwas wiped out,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:32.40,0:53:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she lost probably $25-30,000 \Nof her own money,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.69,0:53:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she is dying to testify \Nbefore Congress.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:40.37,0:53:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went out and met with her \Nin '94... '93, actually...
Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.09,0:53:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and gathered all this information, wrote \Nmy report, talked to the doctors.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:50.48,0:53:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, here's some of his diplomas \Nfrom Intelligence School,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.53,0:53:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so on and so forth.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.86,0:53:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was flying a lot of...
Dialogue: 0,0:53:58.71,0:54:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was involved with people flying drugs\Nin and out of Mid-Valley Airport.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.15,0:54:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Mid-Valley is a counterpart to Mena.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.04,0:54:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only reason why Mena is so popular\Nnow is... two reasons:
Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.44,0:54:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the size and quanity of drugs,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:06.88,0:54:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and because it was Bill Clinton's state.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.76,0:54:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are many Menas in this country.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.21,0:54:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't confuse yourself here, folks.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.03,0:54:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many Menas, everywhere, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.32,0:54:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, after doing all of this investigation,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.90,0:54:23.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,photographing everything that I could,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.53,0:54:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said to her, "Well, from my research\Nand all these years of study,"
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.09,0:54:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"there's only one guy in the world that\NI can think of that you need to talk to"
Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.51,0:54:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"who can help you do anything \Nabout your father's case."
Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.37,0:54:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"His name is Ted Shackley."
Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.80,0:54:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the way, did you know \Nthat Ted Shackley,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:40.49,0:54:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when Oliver North ran for Senate,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.97,0:54:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was leasing Oliver North office space \Nfor, like, five dollars a month?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.21,0:54:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No connection, no connection.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.64,0:54:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, she finds a guy named \NRobert Mayhew
Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.28,0:54:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's living in New Mexico.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.25,0:54:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mayhew puts her in touch \Nwith Shackley.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:57.86,0:55:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, her father's buried, and the \Nheadstone reads, "Staff Sergeant."
Dialogue: 0,0:55:01.23,0:55:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After three years of trying to get that\Nchanged to "Colonel,"
Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.60,0:55:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she calls Ted Shackley.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:06.53,0:55:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Six weeks later, the headstone \Nsays full Colonel.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:10.93,0:55:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have before and after photographs.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.74,0:55:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a copy of the order \Nwhen she was...
Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.54,0:55:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she's an Italian from Brooklyn: \Nshe stole it.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.64,0:55:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What can I tell you? (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.73,0:55:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a copy of the order \Ndirecting the change, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.82,0:55:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No connection. No connection \Nwhatsoever.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.87,0:55:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This case, if we pull this one, \Nwe'll really pull it apart.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:29.61,0:55:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But how many cases like that are there?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.64,0:55:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's dozens.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.59,0:55:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's dozens and dozens \Nand dozens of cases.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.42,0:55:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to talk about one more case.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.06,0:55:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody recognize this guy?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.75,0:55:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colonel Jim Sabow.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:44.78,0:55:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Full Colonel, United States Marine Corps.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.26,0:55:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chief of Air Operations, \NEl Toro Marine Air Station.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:51.92,0:55:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Murdered in 1991.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:53.85,0:55:55.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what's significant about 1991?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.75,0:55:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Cold War had been over for about\Nfour years, three years.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:59.02,0:56:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iran-Contra was over.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.80,0:56:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why was he murdered?
Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.60,0:56:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This guy, by the way, was about \Nas straight-arrow as you can get.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:08.53,0:56:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Devout Roman Catholic. His wife \Nwent to mass every day.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:11.89,0:56:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went every day that he could.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:14.76,0:56:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The "family man of doom:"
Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.10,0:56:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best family man you \Ncould ever imagine.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.45,0:56:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spotless Marine Corps record.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.80,0:56:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He caught C-130s flying onto El Toro \Nwith thousand-kilo loads of cocaine.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.66,0:56:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His brother is one of the main speakers \Nat our rally on Saturday,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.50,0:56:35.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor David Sabow.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:35.11,0:56:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the Naval Investigative Service \Nsaid that he committed suicide.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.58,0:56:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, why did they say \Nhe committed suicide?
Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.85,0:56:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because he sent a bookcase to his son \Non a military flight
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.08,0:56:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was flying empty from point A \Nto point B,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.02,0:56:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were gonna ruin his career\Nfor that dishonor.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:51.70,0:56:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It happens all the time, folks!
Dialogue: 0,0:56:53.03,0:56:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the space is empty anyway, \Nwho cares?
Dialogue: 0,0:56:55.71,0:56:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, \N"You're not gonna do that to me!"
Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.19,0:57:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was gonna blow the whistle.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.30,0:57:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But according to the Naval Investigative\NService and the Marine Corps,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.71,0:57:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colonel Jim Sabow went out into his \Nback yard with a 12-gauge shotgun,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:09.12,0:57:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shoved it so hard into his mouth
Dialogue: 0,0:57:13.24,0:57:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he sheared off the uvula \Nat the back of his throat
Dialogue: 0,0:57:17.31,0:57:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- now, you know, if you're \Ngonna commit suicide,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:19.57,0:57:23.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why would you put yourself through \Nall that stuff just to commit suicide? --
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.69,0:57:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The funny thing about the \NSabow murder case
Dialogue: 0,0:57:25.77,0:57:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that he aspirated blood for ten minutes\Nafter they said he blew his brians out.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.32,0:57:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, think about that for a minute, folks.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.92,0:57:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're dead, you're not breathing.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.11,0:57:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you aspirate blood\Nafter you've killed yourself?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.23,0:57:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's impossible.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.41,0:57:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They also found a deep skull fracture
Dialogue: 0,0:57:47.38,0:57:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the back of the skull, right back here,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:50.56,0:57:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a hematoma. You don't hematoma...
Dialogue: 0,0:57:54.41,0:57:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- that doesn't sound like a...\Nit sounds like a dance --
Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.95,0:58:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't get hematomas if you're dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:00.68,0:58:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a result of the body\Ntrying to heal itself
Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.58,0:58:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fluid rushing to the wound.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.20,0:58:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody knocked him out -- boom!
Dialogue: 0,0:58:07.67,0:58:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let him lie on the ground for ten minutes\Nwith a skull fracture, inhaling blood,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:12.83,0:58:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before they shoved a shotgun so hard \Ndown his throat it sheared off his uvula.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.89,0:58:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.05,0:58:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This report contains the reports of \Neight different forensic pathologists,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.21,0:58:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have all said this man did not \Ncommit suicide: he was murdered.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:28.87,0:58:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The brother, Dr. David Sabow, \Nis a medical doctor
Dialogue: 0,0:58:32.83,0:58:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who lives in South Dakota.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.63,0:58:38.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's been fighting this case non-stop \Nsince Jim was murdered.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.34,0:58:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he's winning some cases.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:40.83,0:58:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His attorney now is Daniel Sheehan,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.27,0:58:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who people have many \Nmixed opinions about,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:46.32,0:58:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was the head of the Christic Institute\Nback in the '80s,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:48.29,0:58:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Danny's doing a good job\Nwith this case.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:50.12,0:58:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened with the Marine Corps \Nand the Navy
Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.24,0:58:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Dr. Sabow tried to fight this,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.07,0:58:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was there were some loyal Marines who\Nsnuck out some records and some notes,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.71,0:59:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which said: "Get David Sabow."
Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.38,0:59:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Marine Corps went after\Nhis medical license,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.29,0:59:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying that people should \Ndo illegal things,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.45,0:59:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course that didn't go anywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:09.70,0:59:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they have the documented \Nrecords about a strategy
Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.97,0:59:16.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,designed to make Dr. Sabow \Nlose his medical license.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:17.54,0:59:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are trying to move ahead with trial,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:20.72,0:59:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he just won a major decision in\Nthe US Ninth Circuit here in California.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:25.28,0:59:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not on the CIA issue,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.40,0:59:31.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but granting him broad discovery \Nto subpoena the military records
Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.93,0:59:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regarding the cocaine activities.\N(applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.71,0:59:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, David Sabow will be one \Nof our speakers Saturday,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:43.47,0:59:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as weill Cele Castillo.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:44.68,0:59:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike Levine was supposed to come.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:46.74,0:59:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wound up with a 102 \Ntemperature yesterday
Dialogue: 0,0:59:50.10,0:59:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after testifying for about\Ntwo weeks in San Diego
Dialogue: 0,0:59:52.79,0:59:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a case where two agents\Nmurdered a sailor down there,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.72,0:59:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's been ordered back \Nto New York to go to bed.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.42,0:59:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're going to miss Mike, \Nbut he's here in spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.50,1:00:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I guess what I want\Nto say to you is this:
Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.16,1:00:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is bigger than any of us think.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:09.12,1:00:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've been flying in drugs \Nall over this country.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:10.62,1:00:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've been dealing drugs to Americans\Nfor 40 or 50 years.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.14,1:00:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But go back to the analogy that I gave\Nyou before about the drunk on a binge.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:18.02,1:00:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK? We can see that it's been getting \Nworse and worse and worse.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.73,1:00:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have utterly corrupted \Nthe criminal justice system.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:23.94,1:00:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we have a guy like Stanley Sporkin
Dialogue: 0,1:00:25.61,1:00:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sitting on the US District Court \Nin Washington, DC...
Dialogue: 0,1:00:29.16,1:00:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you know who Stanley Sporkin is?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:30.74,1:00:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Retired Chief Counsel for the\NCentral Intelligence Agency.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:34.61,1:00:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He sits on the bench, on the \NUS District Court in Washington.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.96,1:00:41.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His email messages read: \N"To Stanley from Ollie,"
Dialogue: 0,1:00:41.87,1:00:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the Iran-Contra era.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.28,1:00:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to talk about a chokepoint \Nto control key cases?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:49.57,1:00:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have spoken to people who used to work
Dialogue: 0,1:00:51.86,1:00:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a company called eSystems in Texas.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.15,1:00:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see old Bob going crazy over there \Nabout eSystems.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.20,1:01:05.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their children, one of them had\Nhad her son murdered
Dialogue: 0,1:01:05.03,1:01:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he discovered eSystems.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.40,1:01:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eSystems makes all the encryption \Ndevices for the NSA and CIA.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.15,1:01:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is not a secret that\Nthe government has
Dialogue: 0,1:01:14.70,1:01:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that eSystems does not also have.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:16.72,1:01:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sitting on the Board of Directors of\NeSystems is Admiral William Raborn,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.13,1:01:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,retired Director of Central Intelligence.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:23.60,1:01:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have documented eSystems CIA flights
Dialogue: 0,1:01:26.07,1:01:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dropping massive loads of cocaine \Ninto Lake Tawakoni,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.28,1:01:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,landing at the eSystems airport \Nin Garland, Texas. OK?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:33.45,1:01:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is proof. There is an \Nenormous amount of proof.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.14,1:01:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do we do, OK?\NWhat do we do, all right?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.09,1:01:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20 years: I want to share with you \Nmy experience, strength, and hope
Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.72,1:01:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having looked at this for 20 years,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.92,1:01:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a graduate of Political Science \Nfrom UCLA,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:52.31,1:01:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having knocked on every door.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.70,1:01:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There isn't a thing you can think of\Nthat I haven't tried, OK?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.09,1:02:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gonna tell you what we do.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:01.66,1:02:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll tell you that...
Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.92,1:02:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were times, for me, in the 20 years,\Nthat I've had incredible depressions,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:11.81,1:02:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredible heartache, incredible\Ndisillusionment, utter hopelessness,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.28,1:02:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that I was going to die\Nand never see a day of justice.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:20.14,1:02:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll tell you, I think I'm beginning\Nto understand how a slave felt,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.36,1:02:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that he was going to die
Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.29,1:02:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that neither he nor his children \Nwould have any hope of seeing freedom.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.08,1:02:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there were times when I thought...
Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.03,1:02:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I used to manage the largest gun\Nstore in the state, B&B. (applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:02:40.34,1:02:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- And I got so much good information \Nout of B&B!
Dialogue: 0,1:02:45.03,1:02:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we'd sell to all these Feds, \Nand they'd come in.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.89,1:02:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd say, "Yeah, come on back and shoot\Nthis MP-5." And the guy would just
Dialogue: 0,1:02:49.14,1:02:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start blabbering all kinds of stuff to me.\NIt was wonderful! --
Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.13,1:02:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were times when I wanted, \Nlike others
Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.95,1:03:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and I will not criticize them --
Dialogue: 0,1:03:00.77,1:03:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go to the hills.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.60,1:03:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no family. I've never had children.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.70,1:03:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was told that if I ever had children, \Nthey'd kill 'em.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.72,1:03:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought about going to the hills \Nand giving up,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:12.88,1:03:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and waiting just for a chance\Nto go out fighting.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:17.23,1:03:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I will tell you what I have \Nlearned in 20 years:
Dialogue: 0,1:03:19.22,1:03:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it takes more courage to stand up\Nand talk than it does to fight.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:31.24,1:03:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:03:35.44,1:03:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is happening now...
Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.17,1:03:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and in a minute or so, I'm going \Nto turn it over to Mike Novick
Dialogue: 0,1:03:39.78,1:03:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Crack the CIA Coalition --
Dialogue: 0,1:03:41.50,1:03:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I see happening now is a potential\Nmiracle of Biblical proportions.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.11,1:03:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I happen to believe in God. \NI have a higher power.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:52.48,1:03:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not be sober 14 years otherwise.\N(applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:03:59.19,1:04:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not believe that my God \Nhas ordained, for me, suffering.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:05.37,1:04:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't believe that he has ordained \Nan Armageddon.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:08.95,1:04:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't believe that he has asked me\Nto do anything,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:11.09,1:04:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to do the right thing in faith \None day at a time.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:15.31,1:04:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's gonna happen Saturday\Nis that, in one sense,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:19.35,1:04:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the lion is going to lay down \Nwith the lamb.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:22.85,1:04:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These people who are in the \NCrack the CIA coalition
Dialogue: 0,1:04:25.78,1:04:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- of which I have been a part, now, \Nfor I guess about a month or so?
Dialogue: 0,1:04:30.04,1:04:33.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Six weeks? Whatever --
Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.35,1:04:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are people you would not ordinarily associate with.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:36.66,1:04:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On a daily basis, I work hand-in-hand \Nwith a former Black Panther.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:39.98,1:04:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are people from socialist \Norganizations,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:44.91,1:04:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are people from labor parties,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.95,1:04:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are black militants.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:50.64,1:05:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are Indians and Hispanics \Nand... Democrats! You know? (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,1:05:02.27,1:05:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want you to know something:
Dialogue: 0,1:05:03.66,1:05:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these people are standing up for {\i1}you.{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,1:05:06.68,1:05:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These people plan to go \Nto the street to say,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:10.17,1:05:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"CIA is dealing drugs, and it's wrong."
Dialogue: 0,1:05:12.44,1:05:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they plan to stand up,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:13.64,1:05:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the most courageous \Nthing we can do
Dialogue: 0,1:05:15.87,1:05:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go to the street and exercise\NFirst Amendment rights.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:19.20,1:05:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're doing it for you, and me, \Nand the stockbrokers in New York,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:22.43,1:05:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the rich housewives in Saint Louis.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:24.22,1:05:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're putting aside all of\Ntheir differences, saying,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:28.92,1:05:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is not about anything other\Nthan right and wrong." (applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:05:40.57,1:05:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, what the Agency, what the Shadow\NGovernment has done for so long
Dialogue: 0,1:05:47.13,1:05:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to pit us against each other:
Dialogue: 0,1:05:49.50,1:05:52.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,black against white, against rich,\Nagainst poor,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.27,1:05:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against gay, against straight, \Nagainst cop...
Dialogue: 0,1:05:55.17,1:05:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been turned... you know, \Nand we react.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:58.43,1:06:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last night I was on the show, KIEV, \Nand this guy calls in and goes,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.86,1:06:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, it's the Communist conspiracy,"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:04.53,1:06:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and you've got Tom Hayden \Nendorsing this, and... my God!"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:07.50,1:06:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, "They're gonna start violence, \Nand it's the Communists taking..."
Dialogue: 0,1:06:11.73,1:06:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Wait a minute.\NHold it just a minute!"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.54,1:06:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You know, sure, there were \NCommunists,"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:16.76,1:06:18.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and they weren't good people."
Dialogue: 0,1:06:18.100,1:06:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But how about the fact that we brought \Nall these Gestapo and SS"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:21.23,1:06:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"into our Special Forces and our \NCentral Intelligence Agency?"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:26.26,1:06:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Those are Nazis!"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:27.96,1:06:30.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Why don't we just do this \Nlike, 'I'm a cop.'"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:30.65,1:06:33.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"'I don't care what political party\Na bad guy belongs to'"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:33.67,1:06:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"'I just want to make the arrest,\Nyou know?'"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:38.06,1:06:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.26,1:06:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we can do what I'm hoping \Nwe can do on Saturday,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:45.73,1:06:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will have 10, 15,000 people\Nin the streets.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.61,1:06:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I pray to God some of you are there.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:50.74,1:06:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are people coming from \Nvarious parts of the country,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:52.68,1:06:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are people \Nfrom the right as well.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:54.45,1:06:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can have a show of {\i1}Americans{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,1:06:57.82,1:07:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standing up in the street for \N{\i1}American rights{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,1:07:02.39,1:07:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that when we do get justice,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:04.02,1:07:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody can go back to \Ndoing their own thing.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:05.96,1:07:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we do not hang together,\Nwe shall all surely hang separately. OK?
Dialogue: 0,1:07:16.82,1:07:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:07:17.83,1:07:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're trying to do something \Nwhich is really dangerous,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:19.92,1:07:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if we pull it off, we're gonna \Nscare the bad guys to death.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:23.72,1:07:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are gonna make a statement,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:25.60,1:07:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they look through the crowd \Nand see who's there,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:27.96,1:07:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see that we can pull this off
Dialogue: 0,1:07:30.12,1:07:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-violently, peacefully, with \Nenthusiasm and cooperation.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:34.48,1:07:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something that hasn't been done.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:37.03,1:07:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It takes more courage to stand up \Nthan it does to fight.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:39.53,1:07:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It takes more courage to talk \Nand to say "I believe,"
Dialogue: 0,1:07:42.11,1:07:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And I am willing to say you are {\i1}wrong.{\i0}"
Dialogue: 0,1:07:45.82,1:07:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we're afraid of the ostracism:
Dialogue: 0,1:07:47.29,1:07:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, let's stand up together and see \Nif we can't change something.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:50.58,1:07:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to call upon Mike, and we'll \Net him talk for a few minutes.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:53.17,1:07:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we'll take questions.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.90,1:08:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:08:05.73,1:08:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Michael Novick) Talk about \Na tough act to follow.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:09.42,1:08:13.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a pretty amazing set of facts,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:13.11,1:08:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but really, the life that this \Nman has lived
Dialogue: 0,1:08:15.31,1:08:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come to this momement and \Nbe here with us,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:17.51,1:08:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think is incredible.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:18.67,1:08:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I really want to thank Mike\Nfor his tremendous courage
Dialogue: 0,1:08:21.55,1:08:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his openness to just deal with \Nthe truth and the speak the truth
Dialogue: 0,1:08:25.42,1:08:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the face the consequences of that.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:29.05,1:08:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it's something \Nwe all have to do.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:30.52,1:08:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I am here, basically, tonight,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:32.98,1:08:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to tell you a little bit about the \NCrack the CIA Coalition,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:35.50,1:08:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and about the demonstration.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:37.38,1:08:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are flyers here, and we'd like\Nto urge you to take some flyers
Dialogue: 0,1:08:40.98,1:08:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pass them out in the next day or two \Nto bring people.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:43.19,1:08:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want this to be as massive \Nand as broad
Dialogue: 0,1:08:47.15,1:08:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as open and as democratic a\Ndemonstration as it's possible to have.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:50.67,1:08:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a set of principles of unity,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:54.39,1:08:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the principles are that \Nwe are opposed
Dialogue: 0,1:08:58.10,1:09:00.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the crimes that the CIA \Nhas committed
Dialogue: 0,1:09:00.17,1:09:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against the people of this country
Dialogue: 0,1:09:01.60,1:09:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and against other people \Naround the world,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:02.99,1:09:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think one of the things
Dialogue: 0,1:09:05.54,1:09:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has become very clear to us\Nin doing this work
Dialogue: 0,1:09:08.38,1:09:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it's impossible to protect \Nourselves, somehow
Dialogue: 0,1:09:12.57,1:09:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the use of agencies like the CIA.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:15.64,1:09:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the crimes that they carry out,\Nsupposedly, in our name,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.81,1:09:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow to protect the \NAmerican way of life,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:22.03,1:09:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are crimes committed against us \Nevery single day.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:25.18,1:09:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that the crimes they committed\Nin Nicaragua,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:27.44,1:09:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the crimes they committed \Nin other parts of the world
Dialogue: 0,1:09:30.43,1:09:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inevitably are going to affect us.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:34.21,1:09:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we see the destruction they've \Ncreated, the devastation,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:37.59,1:09:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only in South-Central Los Angeles,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:39.73,1:09:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in every village and hamlet \Nin this country.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:42.28,1:09:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And crack is not something, \Nnow, they thought
Dialogue: 0,1:09:44.37,1:09:48.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they could dump in one community \Nand somehow destroy that community
Dialogue: 0,1:09:48.15,1:09:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not have it spread out \Nthroughout the society.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:51.11,1:09:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're seeing the tremendous \Nconnections between what's going on.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:56.76,1:10:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people here, I know, have \Nno love for Bill Clinton, I'm sure.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:02.58,1:10:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it's important to understand \Nthat the people in this coalition
Dialogue: 0,1:10:07.58,1:10:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not in any way part of the coalition\Nthat Bill Clinton represents.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:14.42,1:10:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people in this coalition \Nare a coalition
Dialogue: 0,1:10:16.92,1:10:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of forces trying to claim their \Nhumanity, defend themselves,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:19.44,1:10:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to recognize the need for solidarity\Nto deal with this.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:23.93,1:10:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've been on talk radio, \Nand I used that word once,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:27.61,1:10:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and somebody said, "When I hear that \Nword, solidarity, I wanna lock and load."
Dialogue: 0,1:10:32.38,1:10:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter)
Dialogue: 0,1:10:33.31,1:10:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm telling you that that's \Nwhat you need.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:36.52,1:10:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That if you want to deal with the CIA,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:38.52,1:10:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want to deal with Bill Clinton,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:39.85,1:10:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to recognize what they're about.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:42.40,1:10:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're about an empire.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:44.96,1:10:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the problem with Bill Clinton is \Nnot whether you think he's a socialist
Dialogue: 0,1:10:46.92,1:10:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you think he's a moderate,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:48.34,1:10:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you think he's this or that.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:49.38,1:10:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bill Clinton is an emperor,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:52.24,1:10:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the problem with Bill Clinton.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:54.23,1:10:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Bill Clinton wants you \Nto be subjects of his empire.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:57.25,1:11:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you want to have any other status \Nthan as a subject of that empire,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:00.53,1:11:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you have to stand with the former\NBlack Panthers in this coalition,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:03.97,1:11:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to stand up on Saturday
Dialogue: 0,1:11:06.28,1:11:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say that Bill Clinton and the CIA are \Nnot committing these crimes your names
Dialogue: 0,1:11:10.79,1:11:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in our names,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:12.05,1:11:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if we want to protect ourselves\Nfrom those criminals,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:15.13,1:11:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to take action with all the \Ngood people of South Central,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:19.55,1:11:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the good people of East Los Angeles,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:20.95,1:11:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the good people of the San Fernando \NValley have to stand up together,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:24.56,1:11:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, "We want a different \Nand a better world together."
Dialogue: 0,1:11:29.40,1:11:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I would like to urge you \Nto come out on Saturday.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:32.54,1:11:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would also like to urge you, if you\Nhave some funds to make available,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:35.82,1:11:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that you all have your own needs \Nand demands,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:39.27,1:11:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as a representative of this coalition,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:41.28,1:11:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd like to give you the address\Nfor a moment.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:44.36,1:11:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a PO Box.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:47.03,1:11:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the Crack the CIA Coalition,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:49.40,1:11:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's PO Box 191601,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:53.11,1:11:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Los Angeles, California, 90019.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:55.83,1:12:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been fronting out money to\Nbring Cele Castillo to Los Angeles,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:00.38,1:12:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring Dr. David Sabow from \NSouth Dakota to Los Angeles,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:05.52,1:12:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring documentation information
Dialogue: 0,1:12:07.66,1:12:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to put on this demonstration,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:09.14,1:12:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so we want you definitely \Nto come out and support.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:11.89,1:12:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want you to be a part \Nof this process.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:13.78,1:12:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are not stopping with the\Ndemonstration tomorrow.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:15.53,1:12:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The demonstration tomorrow \Nis the beginning.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:15.92,1:12:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are co-sponsoring on March 15th
Dialogue: 0,1:12:19.10,1:12:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and everyone here is certainly\Nwelcome to come --
Dialogue: 0,1:12:21.56,1:12:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a teach-in on all of this material
Dialogue: 0,1:12:24.15,1:12:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Fairfax High School in the \Ncity of Los Angeles.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:28.13,1:12:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That will be beginning, I believe, \Nat eleven o'clock on March 15th,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:33.07,1:12:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a Saturday in \Nabout three weeks.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:34.68,1:12:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're gonna be having \NPeter Dale Scott,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:38.04,1:12:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the author of the books that \NMike Ruppert mentioned,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:40.82,1:12:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the {\i1}Cocaine Politics{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:41.94,1:12:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're gonna be having\NDr. Alfred McCoy,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:43.89,1:12:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the author of the leading \Nbook on this,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:46.34,1:12:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what he referred as "the Bible."
Dialogue: 0,1:12:47.99,1:12:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all of this effort is the effort
Dialogue: 0,1:12:49.50,1:12:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to expose these truths and these \Nrealities to all of you
Dialogue: 0,1:12:53.70,1:12:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to the rest of us, \Nto educate ourselves,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:55.65,1:12:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mobilize ourselves and to support \Neach other in this movement.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:59.88,1:13:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what it's going to take.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:01.38,1:13:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's going to take a movement to resist,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:02.48,1:13:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to counter the lies,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:04.99,1:13:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to expose ourselves \Nto some truth that...
Dialogue: 0,1:13:07.22,1:13:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people here certainly understand \Nwhat's disseminated in the media
Dialogue: 0,1:13:14.39,1:13:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bears very little relation to reality.\N
Dialogue: 0,1:13:17.20,1:13:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you might want to re-think \Nsome of the things
Dialogue: 0,1:13:19.27,1:13:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you have absorbed from \Nthose same media,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:21.21,1:13:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criminalizing and castigating and \Ndemonizing people on the left
Dialogue: 0,1:13:27.25,1:13:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who might have something to share \Nand something to offer you.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:29.98,1:13:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Demonizing people who have stood up:
Dialogue: 0,1:13:31.64,1:13:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a man named Michael Zinzun,\Nfor example,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:33.72,1:13:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is involved with the gang truce,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:35.77,1:13:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a former Black Panther. Not closely \Ninvolved in this coalition,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:37.50,1:13:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he is somebody who... files \Nwere taken out of the LAPD
Dialogue: 0,1:13:43.06,1:13:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to prevent him from running for\Nthe City Council in Pasadena.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:47.07,1:13:49.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These crimes go on and on and on,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:49.100,1:13:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they will not be stopped unless \Npeople stand up and say, "No more."
Dialogue: 0,1:13:54.63,1:13:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're trying to do that on one \Nparticular day,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:57.41,1:13:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in a very long-term way.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:59.09,1:14:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're happy to dialogue\Nabout these things.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:01.64,1:14:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think you for the time.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:03.16,1:14:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thank Michael for his tremendous \Npresentation,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:05.10,1:14:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think we owe him a \Ntremendous debt of gratitude.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:10.06,1:14:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:14:18.34,1:14:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, we're gonna have questions.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:19.62,1:14:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Questions from the back of the room.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:21.39,1:14:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So those of you who have questions
Dialogue: 0,1:14:22.58,1:14:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike will be glad to try \Nand answer for you.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:24.56,1:14:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So please feel free to...
Dialogue: 0,1:14:26.50,1:14:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sorry, the leaflet actually \N(xx) asked:
Dialogue: 0,1:14:28.20,1:14:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Twelve Noon at City Hall, \NDowntown Los Angeles,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:30.48,1:14:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First and Spring Street.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:32.77,1:14:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll be marching from there\Nto the {\i1}LA Times{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,1:14:35.05,1:14:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Los Angeles Federal Building,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:37.61,1:14:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then back for a rally at City Hall.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:39.76,1:14:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(inaudible off-mic)
Dialogue: 0,1:14:42.50,1:14:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a permit. We obtained a permit.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:44.08,1:14:47.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are marching with police \Nat a distance,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:47.43,1:14:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's a complely legal march;
Dialogue: 0,1:14:52.03,1:14:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a completely non-violent march.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:54.39,1:14:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're there to express these truths
Dialogue: 0,1:14:56.84,1:15:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to take a stand on these issues.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:01.41,1:15:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Mr. Ruppert?
Dialogue: 0,1:15:02.26,1:15:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:03.10,1:15:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) You mentioned the \NSecret Government.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:04.90,1:15:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Do you see the CIA \Nas the ultimate executive?
Dialogue: 0,1:15:09.19,1:15:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Or who is the ultimate executive\Nbehind the wrongdoing we see?
Dialogue: 0,1:15:16.30,1:15:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tend to be, when I answer... well,\NI'm always asked this question.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:20.15,1:15:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I tend to.. I try to be \Nfairly conservative,
Dialogue: 0,1:15:22.46,1:15:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I try to approach this\Nas a detective
Dialogue: 0,1:15:24.78,1:15:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and answer with evidence that I have.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:27.08,1:15:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you'll recall, I mentioned Paul Jabber, \Nthe UCLA Political Science professor?
Dialogue: 0,1:15:34.45,1:15:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Shortly after I met with him,\Nhe left UCLA
Dialogue: 0,1:15:37.18,1:15:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become Vice-President \Nof Banker's Trust
Dialogue: 0,1:15:41.61,1:15:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He took over as Chair of the \NMiddle East Department
Dialogue: 0,1:15:44.34,1:15:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:46.79,1:15:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where I see a lot of this going.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:51.81,1:15:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more I try, logically, as a detective,
Dialogue: 0,1:15:54.56,1:16:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using intuitive inductive logic \Nto get to the bottom of this,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:00.13,1:16:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I come to banks. that's where I come.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:02.46,1:16:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I come to banks.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:03.85,1:16:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, most of the banks\Nare foreign-owned.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:05.81,1:16:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially...
Dialogue: 0,1:16:06.60,1:16:07.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man off-mic) Follow the money.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:07.97,1:16:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Follow the money. That's the bottom line.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:09.20,1:16:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Do you know if Brian Quaig \N(sp) is all right? I assume you know him?
Dialogue: 0,1:16:13.86,1:16:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who?
Dialogue: 0,1:16:14.79,1:16:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Brian Quaig of Phoenix? \NHe's the one with the Internet site
Dialogue: 0,1:16:18.10,1:16:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all of the material that you have\Nbeen speaking about this evening?
Dialogue: 0,1:16:20.99,1:16:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I'm not familiar with him.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:22.74,1:16:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Oh, you don't know him?
Dialogue: 0,1:16:24.04,1:16:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:24.74,1:16:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) The book, {\i1}LA's Secret Police{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,1:16:26.94,1:16:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike Rothmiller
Dialogue: 0,1:16:28.05,1:16:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Is that fairly accurate?
Dialogue: 0,1:16:29.40,1:16:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I know Mike Rothmiller.\N
Dialogue: 0,1:16:30.66,1:16:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's interesting about that is that\NMike touched on a couple of things.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:35.45,1:16:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LAPD has been heavily, heavily \Ninfiltrated by CIA for a long time.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:39.12,1:16:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bill Parker, who was a \Nlegendary Chief here,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:41.10,1:16:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hated the FBI.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:42.85,1:16:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he invited CIA lock, stock, and barrel \Nto come in to LAPD.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:47.62,1:16:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are documented cases\Nduring the Iran-Contra era
Dialogue: 0,1:16:50.75,1:16:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of one detective named Hamilton,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:53.36,1:16:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Organized Crime Intelligence,\Ncoming off an airplane
Dialogue: 0,1:16:55.40,1:17:01.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Mexico City Chief of Police \NArturo Durazo
Dialogue: 0,1:17:01.72,1:17:03.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- who was under indictment\Nfor drug corruption --
Dialogue: 0,1:17:03.100,1:17:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from The Bahamas.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:06.07,1:17:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's an LAPD detective doing with\Nthe Mexico City Chief of Police
Dialogue: 0,1:17:08.96,1:17:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a flight from The Bahamas?
Dialogue: 0,1:17:10.96,1:17:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daryl Gates made a statement in 1992
Dialogue: 0,1:17:16.19,1:17:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the only position he would \Nconsider in a second Bush term
Dialogue: 0,1:17:19.48,1:17:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be Director of Central Intelligence.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:22.22,1:17:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My question for Daryl is: what \Nare your qualifications?
Dialogue: 0,1:17:26.44,1:17:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike Rothmiller's book is good.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:29.80,1:17:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He kind of stopped short \Nof some other things,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:31.20,1:17:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he and I have spoken \Nmany, many times.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:33.40,1:17:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yes, it's a good book.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:35.80,1:17:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Yes: I wonder what your opinion is\Nof the...
Dialogue: 0,1:17:44.10,1:17:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) -- I haven't heard you mention this, \Nand I'm wondering why --
Dialogue: 0,1:17:46.93,1:17:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) the... kind of pulls the rug out
Dialogue: 0,1:17:49.49,1:17:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) of all the law enforcement agencies \Naround the country,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:53.38,1:17:57.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and has been advocated by the...
Dialogue: 0,1:17:57.93,1:18:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) many judges, and many doctors, \Nand Jocelyn Elder,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:09.30,1:18:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and... is... the answer is the \Nlegalization of drugs.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:16.04,1:18:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And, when... a lot of people here \Nmight not understand:
Dialogue: 0,1:18:20.16,1:18:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) what I mean by this, is that I'm not\Nadvocating the {\i1}use{\i0} of drugs;
Dialogue: 0,1:18:23.51,1:18:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) but by the legalization of drugs,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:26.95,1:18:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) we're talking about many solutions\Nfor many problems,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:30.40,1:18:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) in that many people, billions of dollars
Dialogue: 0,1:18:33.84,1:18:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) that are spent chasing down criminals\Nare freed up,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:39.60,1:18:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and that many crimes committed \Nby these so-called druggies
Dialogue: 0,1:18:48.67,1:18:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) aren't committed because \Nit's legally gotten.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:51.41,1:18:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I was just wondering what your opinion...
Dialogue: 0,1:18:53.09,1:18:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I mean, it's just a simple solution \Nfor a whole lot of problems,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:56.78,1:18:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and I'm hoping everyone here \Nthinks on this for a while,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:58.84,1:19:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) because it is the awesome \Nsolution for
Dialogue: 0,1:19:01.15,1:19:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) a whole lot of awesome problems.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:03.46,1:19:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Michael) I have thought about this a lot,\Nand I will say that as a cop,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:05.77,1:19:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what really makes me feel good \Nis when I hurt the bad guys.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:13.54,1:19:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sorry, that's the way \NI feel in my gut.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:17.16,1:19:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way we hurt the bootleggers \Nwas to legalize alcohol.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:24.12,1:19:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not advocate, necessarily,\Nlegalizing drugs, but
Dialogue: 0,1:19:27.21,1:19:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe in certain cases decriminalizing\Ndrugs might be an answer.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:33.40,1:19:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, we're dealing with \Na situation, historically,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:40.11,1:19:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the British in the 1800s established their\Nwhole economy on a trilateral trade:
Dialogue: 0,1:19:46.08,1:19:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,growing opium in India, selling it \Nto the Chinese, getting silk,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:50.71,1:19:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking it back to Britain, \Nand making textiles.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:54.56,1:19:58.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that set up the cash flow of the \NBritish economy. That's the model.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:58.29,1:20:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The different is, now, that we're \Npoisoning ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:01.37,1:20:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is really ugly, OK?
Dialogue: 0,1:20:03.08,1:20:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there was a report
Dialogue: 0,1:20:04.76,1:20:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- which I have not seen, but several\NCongressional staffers who I know...
Dialogue: 0,1:20:08.08,1:20:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Bob, if he's still here, \Nprobably knows it, too --
Dialogue: 0,1:20:10.15,1:20:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prepared by the House Banking \NCommittee chaired by Henry Gonzales,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:14.10,1:20:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which said something like if all \Nthe drug money were withdrawn,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:16.98,1:20:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eight largest banks in the Western\NHemisphere would collapse.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:21.36,1:20:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would create a depression
Dialogue: 0,1:20:22.39,1:20:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the likes of which this country \Nhas never seen before.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:25.51,1:20:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have to use some thought in, \Nreally, how we approach the problem.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:29.97,1:20:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, anyway...
Dialogue: 0,1:20:31.55,1:20:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Yes: The problem is not the CIA;
Dialogue: 0,1:20:33.48,1:20:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) The problem is organized crime, \Nthe Democrat and Republican Party,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:38.08,1:20:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and the real problem is that \Nwe do not have a policy
Dialogue: 0,1:20:42.31,1:20:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) of putting the cocaine cartel\Nout of business
Dialogue: 0,1:20:44.90,1:20:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and destroying the cocaine cartel.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:46.94,1:20:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Instead, you're destroying \Nthe American people.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:49.26,1:20:52.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) My question is, why aren't you \Nputting the blame
Dialogue: 0,1:20:52.27,1:20:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) on the Democrat and Republican \NParty and organized crime,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:54.42,1:20:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and why aren't you pointing\Nout that we have no policy
Dialogue: 0,1:20:56.45,1:20:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) to destroy the cocaine cartel?
Dialogue: 0,1:20:58.46,1:21:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) That's what you should be using\Nthe opportunity Saturday morning for.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:03.34,1:21:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just was pointing out about a guy \Nwith a phone book
Dialogue: 0,1:21:05.14,1:21:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Paulie Castellano and all that,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:06.70,1:21:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I think I was talking about\Norganized crime. Yes?
Dialogue: 0,1:21:09.62,1:21:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Yes. Last night on Peter Ford's \Nshow, you mentioned
Dialogue: 0,1:21:14.33,1:21:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) that you'd sent the material to\NRoss Perot, and he had called you twice,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:18.52,1:21:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) but I don't know what he said.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:20.45,1:21:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Can you elaborate a little more\Non that conversation?
Dialogue: 0,1:21:22.60,1:21:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. And, again, from the \N{\i1}Los Angeles Times{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,1:21:25.77,1:21:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what I do when I'm around the press.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:33.32,1:21:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been published in the \N{\i1}Los Angeles Times{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:35.49,1:21:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't say anything unless I have it \Nright in my hand to back it up.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:39.76,1:21:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The {\i1}Los Angeles Times{\i0} ran this story \Nin 1987, January, about Ross Perot
Dialogue: 0,1:21:44.81,1:21:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,backing Richard Armitage into a corner.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:47.09,1:21:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anybody knows Richard Armitage, \Nhe's 6'4" and benchpresses 430 pounds.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:51.52,1:21:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this short little floppy-eared Texan\Nwith a big nose
Dialogue: 0,1:21:54.41,1:21:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got him in a hallway in the Pentagon \Nand backed him into a corner.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:58.22,1:22:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the issue was CIA dealing drugs, \NArmitage's involvement,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:02.50,1:22:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the POWs connected in Laos \Nwho were left behind.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:05.72,1:22:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Oh, yeah! (brief applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:22:08.70,1:22:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ross Perot was sent to go see \NVice-President George Bush.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:12.30,1:22:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Bush said, "Go see the FBI," and\Nthrew him out of the White House.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:17.70,1:22:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ross Perot cost Bush the\N1992 election, OK?
Dialogue: 0,1:22:22.33,1:22:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I wrote to Ross Perot in 1990,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:25.17,1:22:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I sent him all the stuff and my\Nstories and everything,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:28.52,1:22:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one day the phone rings, \Nand it goes,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:30.84,1:22:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Ross Perot Impression): "Mr. Ruppert? \NThis is Ross Perot. How are yeh?"
Dialogue: 0,1:22:33.04,1:22:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm going, "Jesus!" You know?
Dialogue: 0,1:22:35.79,1:22:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just came out of my chair that \Nit was him. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,1:22:37.37,1:22:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And said, "I want you to know that I've \Nread every word that you have sent me,"
Dialogue: 0,1:22:39.94,1:22:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And no one has pursued this longer \Nor harder than you have."
Dialogue: 0,1:22:43.10,1:22:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You should give it up." (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,1:22:46.00,1:22:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "I must know 20 or 30 \Nformer military officers"
Dialogue: 0,1:22:49.60,1:22:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and law enforcement officers who\Ndiscovered the same thing,"
Dialogue: 0,1:22:52.66,1:22:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and they all had their careers ruined, \Ntheir lives ruined."
Dialogue: 0,1:22:54.78,1:22:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They do the same thing to everybody"
Dialogue: 0,1:22:57.64,1:22:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You'd think they'd try \Nsomething different."
Dialogue: 0,1:22:59.25,1:23:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do a pretty good Ross Perot \Nafter all this time.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:00.83,1:23:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "But they don't \Nbecause it works."
Dialogue: 0,1:23:07.14,1:23:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then Ross Perot said to me,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:08.86,1:23:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Mike, even with all of my resources,"
Dialogue: 0,1:23:11.65,1:23:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't know why {\i1}I{\i0} pursue it:\N{\i1}I{\i0} can't get anywhere."
Dialogue: 0,1:23:17.38,1:23:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer is people in the street.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:22.50,1:23:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer is people standing up \Ntogether expressing their will, OK?
Dialogue: 0,1:23:27.97,1:23:29.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'll tell you a little secret:
Dialogue: 0,1:23:29.45,1:23:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was the press spokesman for \Nthe Perot movement in '92
Dialogue: 0,1:23:33.40,1:23:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in Los Angeles County.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:36.09,1:23:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I've parted ways with Ross just\Nbecause of the way he pulled out,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:40.54,1:23:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not gonna go into that now.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:42.58,1:23:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what I saw in 1992, we had\Na little headquarters
Dialogue: 0,1:23:46.37,1:23:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Ventura Boulevard in Sherman Oaks.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:49.03,1:23:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a list of 15,000 names of people\Nwho wanted to volunteer:
Dialogue: 0,1:23:55.83,1:23:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who had never voted before \Nin their lives;
Dialogue: 0,1:23:58.64,1:24:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who had never held any hope \Nthat there was any way that their voice
Dialogue: 0,1:24:02.07,1:24:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be heard in this country.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:03.66,1:24:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what Ross Perot did was to tap \Ninto that wellspring of disconcent
Dialogue: 0,1:24:08.30,1:24:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is lying just beneath the surface\Nin this country.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:10.100,1:24:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what we're trying to do with \Nthis rally and with this demonstration.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:14.70,1:24:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's there.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:15.80,1:24:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to reach that critical mass,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:17.56,1:24:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the people who know, or suspect,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:19.89,1:24:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just feel in their gut that something's\Nwrong will come forward.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:22.51,1:24:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Mr. Ruppert, I hope that \NI'm not going over
Dialogue: 0,1:24:26.16,1:24:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) something that you already \Ncovered; but I came in late tonight.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:29.61,1:24:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Daryl Gates made a statement \Nthat he was part of the CIA.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:35.34,1:24:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Did you cover that, or do \Nyou know? And if so, what was his job,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:42.58,1:24:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) or what was he doing?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:44.52,1:24:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1962, I believe it was,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:46.73,1:24:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daryl Gates was Captain of LAPD's\NIntelligence Division,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:49.23,1:24:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a well-respected author \Nnamed Bill Turner,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:51.54,1:24:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's a former FBI agent who's \Nwritten a number of books.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:54.46,1:24:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he describes this incident where \Na guy named Dennis Mauer (sp)
Dialogue: 0,1:24:56.68,1:25:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was out with a bunch of right-wing paramiltary guys
Dialogue: 0,1:25:02.50,1:25:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the desert way north of Lancaster.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:05.32,1:25:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were throwing \Nhand grenades around,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:06.65,1:25:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and shooting machine guns, \Nand having fun.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:08.99,1:25:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And up rose Captain Daryl Gates \Nof LAPD's Intelligence Division,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:13.50,1:25:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way out of his jurisdiction, and says, \N"Knock it off!"
Dialogue: 0,1:25:17.45,1:25:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they said to Daryl Gates, \N"Well, it's OK."
Dialogue: 0,1:25:18.81,1:25:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"CIA told us we could be here.\NThey gave us the stuff.'
Dialogue: 0,1:25:21.48,1:25:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Screw you!"\N"I {\i1}am{\i0} CIA, and I'm telling you to stop!"
Dialogue: 0,1:25:27.24,1:25:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, there was an undercover \NLong Beach policeman in that group
Dialogue: 0,1:25:28.82,1:25:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who wrote a report which \Nmade it into the file.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:30.90,1:25:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that was the answer to that question,.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:33.34,1:25:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Mr. Ruppert? \N
Dialogue: 0,1:25:36.81,1:25:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:37.96,1:25:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I wonder if you could comment\Non reports that I have heard
Dialogue: 0,1:25:41.34,1:25:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) that a great deal of the money\Nfunding, and indeed creating,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:44.60,1:25:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) National Coalition \Nto Ban Handguns,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:46.71,1:25:51.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Handgun Control, Incorporated, \Nand various other activist groups
Dialogue: 0,1:25:51.05,1:25:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and individuals in the\Ngun-grabbing, anti-Constitutional
Dialogue: 0,1:25:55.58,1:26:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) so-called gun control movement,\Nactually has its souce
Dialogue: 0,1:26:01.06,1:26:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) in CIA-affiliated and CIA front\Norganizations,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:06.06,1:26:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) as part of a calculated program\Nto disarm the American people.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:10.01,1:26:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have not seen any direct \Nevidence of that,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:13.14,1:26:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I fall back on the old line:
Dialogue: 0,1:26:15.89,1:26:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If it walks like a duck and it \Nquacks like a duck,"
Dialogue: 0,1:26:17.92,1:26:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and there's duck feathers everywhere, \Nthen we've probably got a duck."
Dialogue: 0,1:26:21.48,1:26:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things I study a lot is \Nsomething called the Hegelian Dialectic,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:26.45,1:26:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which says you create a problem,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:29.58,1:26:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you solve the problem,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:32.67,1:26:34.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in solving the problem, \Nyou get the end result
Dialogue: 0,1:26:34.69,1:26:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you were after to begin with.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:37.80,1:26:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) (inaudible)
Dialogue: 0,1:26:39.92,1:26:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody can dispute...
Dialogue: 0,1:26:43.84,1:26:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) (inaudible)
Dialogue: 0,1:26:46.81,1:26:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody can dispute the fact that \Nwe have seen utterly repressive laws,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:52.56,1:26:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially vis-a-vis asset forfeiture,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:54.79,1:26:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being imposed up on us:
Dialogue: 0,1:26:57.20,1:26:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laws which begin to scare me.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:59.69,1:27:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have interviewed a guy\Nwhose father
Dialogue: 0,1:27:02.52,1:27:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a high-ranking official\Nin the {\i1}Abwehr{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,1:27:05.20,1:27:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was Adolph Hitler's intelligence\Nservice, who was... his grandfather.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:10.88,1:27:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he used to tell his grandson
Dialogue: 0,1:27:12.30,1:27:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- who is now a very good\Nfriend of mine --
Dialogue: 0,1:27:13.71,1:27:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(German accent) "We didn't lose \Nthe Second World War;"
Dialogue: 0,1:27:15.12,1:27:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"we just changed venues."
Dialogue: 0,1:27:17.60,1:27:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK? So it's beginning to sound \Nlike that here, yes. (applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:27:21.57,1:27:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Yes, Mr. Ruppert: you mentioned\Nearlier that our economy
Dialogue: 0,1:27:23.65,1:27:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) has become hooked on drugs.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:25.28,1:27:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I wonder to what degree\Nour major political parties
Dialogue: 0,1:27:28.64,1:27:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) have become hooked as well.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:30.52,1:27:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) How much drug money has flowed
Dialogue: 0,1:27:33.41,1:27:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) into campaign contributions, \Ndo you think?
Dialogue: 0,1:27:38.65,1:27:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, I don't have any direct \Ninformation on that;
Dialogue: 0,1:27:40.65,1:27:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I really only answer stuff \Nthat I know directly.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:43.12,1:27:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there is so much drug money...
Dialogue: 0,1:27:44.48,1:27:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if you look at what \Nhappened in Mena,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:46.48,1:27:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are two retired \NArmy CID investigators,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:48.42,1:27:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of which Gene Wheaton is very public \N-- and I known Gene well --
Dialogue: 0,1:27:53.10,1:27:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who estimate the amount of drug \Nmoney flowing through Mena
Dialogue: 0,1:27:56.27,1:27:57.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at $40 million a month,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:57.69,1:28:00.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and through the Arkansas Development \NFinancial Authority
Dialogue: 0,1:28:00.91,1:28:03.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- which is what made Bill Clinton \Na hero in the state of Arkansas.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:03.93,1:28:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah: it's probably there.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:05.76,1:28:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Mr. Ruppert, I want to congratulate\Nyou on your courage, sir.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:08.52,1:28:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And I wanted to ask you if you had\Nany assistance from Officer Rothmiller
Dialogue: 0,1:28:12.82,1:28:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) who wrote the book {\i1}LA Secret\NIntelligence{\i0} [sic] {\i1}Police{\i0}?
Dialogue: 0,1:28:15.42,1:28:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just said a few minutes ago: \NI know Mike.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:18.39,1:28:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have spoken many times \Nover the years.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:20.30,1:28:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Yes, sir.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:21.18,1:28:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We share a lot of views; his book's\Na good book.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:22.90,1:28:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He and I actually worked patrol in \NWilshire Division at the same time.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:26.38,1:28:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:27.46,1:28:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Hey, there. I don't know if want \Nto rub elbows with Tom Hayden,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:33.31,1:28:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) but I'll take it on your world that\Nit's a good thing, the march.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:37.50,1:28:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I have one question: \Ndo you know what happened
Dialogue: 0,1:28:39.19,1:28:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) to former CIA director Colby? \NHe supposedly died mysteriously?
Dialogue: 0,1:28:44.02,1:28:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well...
Dialogue: 0,1:28:47.94,1:28:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) (xx)
Dialogue: 0,1:28:48.75,1:28:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My attorney called me up the \Nday they found his body
Dialogue: 0,1:28:52.77,1:28:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wanted to make sure\NI had an alibi. (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,1:28:57.15,1:28:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I don't know personally. \NI've just received
Dialogue: 0,1:28:59.98,1:29:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an updated copy of \N{\i1}The Franklin Cover-Up{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,1:29:02.50,1:29:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which contains some very disturbing \Nquestions about Bill Colby's death.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:05.78,1:29:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't have any direct knowledge; \Nbut who knows?
Dialogue: 0,1:29:10.32,1:29:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I have two questions.\NYour bravery is astounding,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:11.86,1:29:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) the past 20, 25 years \Nof your investigation.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:14.23,1:29:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Is your life still in danger today,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:16.18,1:29:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and is there any contracts\Nout on your life?
Dialogue: 0,1:29:18.15,1:29:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And secondly, what is \Nthe whole purpose of the rally,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:25.34,1:29:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and how are we going to bring\Nall these people to justice in the end?
Dialogue: 0,1:29:33.40,1:29:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK. First of all, no, I wouldn't know \Nif there was a contract out on me.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:37.28,1:29:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't been shot at for a long time.\NI'm fairly well-known now,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:40.16,1:29:42.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they tend not to kill people \Nwho are fairly well-known.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:42.100,1:29:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is you can \Nget so well-known
Dialogue: 0,1:29:44.69,1:29:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't make any difference, too: with \NMartin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:48.13,1:29:49.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,et cetera, et cetera.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:49.25,1:29:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm nowhere near that big yet, \Nso I think I'm safe for a while.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:52.01,1:29:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As for what we're trying to do \Nand how we're trying to do it,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:56.64,1:30:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am relieved of having to answer that \Nquestion. Again, what I have come to
Dialogue: 0,1:30:02.30,1:30:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a spiritual and a constitutional \Nand an American standpoint,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:05.40,1:30:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that my job is to do the right thing,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:07.32,1:30:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to leave the results to a \Npower greater than myself.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:10.14,1:30:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:30:12.78,1:30:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only sin that I'm aware of \Nis not standing up.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:15.70,1:30:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the sin that I'm aware of. \NYes, sir.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:20.20,1:30:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I think it rather paradoxical \Nthat there's enough evidence
Dialogue: 0,1:30:26.48,1:30:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) against Mr. Clinton and \Nhis administration
Dialogue: 0,1:30:29.95,1:30:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) to put most of them in prison. \NMy question is,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:33.61,1:30:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) how intrusive... has drugs become \Npart of the operation in Washington, DC
Dialogue: 0,1:30:41.48,1:30:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) amongst the Congressmen,\Nthe Senators?
Dialogue: 0,1:30:43.78,1:30:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And why is it we don't have \None person
Dialogue: 0,1:30:45.53,1:30:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) who will stand up and initiate \Nimpeachment proceedings
Dialogue: 0,1:30:48.40,1:30:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) on this scum that we \Nhave in the office?
Dialogue: 0,1:30:52.34,1:30:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Maen) Now, does drugs have \Nan affect here?
Dialogue: 0,1:30:54.76,1:30:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And why is it we're not \Ngetting anything done?
Dialogue: 0,1:30:57.64,1:31:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) All investigation and \Nno prosecution?
Dialogue: 0,1:31:00.86,1:31:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Drugs have an effect everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:05.54,1:31:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the Cutolo Watchtower affidavits,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:09.41,1:31:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a story of one Congressman \Nnamed Larkin Smith
Dialogue: 0,1:31:12.02,1:31:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who tried to stand up; who was looking\Ninto the Tyree murder case.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:17.69,1:31:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was flying on an investigation when \Nhis plane crashed and he was killed.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:22.29,1:31:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hale Boggs...
Dialogue: 0,1:31:25.09,1:31:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They kill Congressmen; they can kill \NPresidents.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:29.05,1:31:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maxine Waters walks a fine line.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:32.66,1:31:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She is a Democrat, a member of the \Nminority party.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:35.56,1:31:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She doesn't chair any committees.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:38.08,1:31:40.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She is Chairwoman of the \NBlack Caucus, yes,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:40.63,1:31:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she alone as a member of Congress \Ndoesn't have the power to stand up.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:45.64,1:31:48.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gonna make it very clear\Nin my speech Saturday
Dialogue: 0,1:31:48.26,1:31:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that where the people lead, \NCongress will follow.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:52.34,1:31:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have got the cart before the horse.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:54.58,1:31:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't expect anybody to do for us
Dialogue: 0,1:31:56.32,1:32:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we will not demand that \Nthey do by ourselves, OK?
Dialogue: 0,1:32:01.96,1:32:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to stand up together. \NCongress ain't gonna listen until we do.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:04.90,1:32:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, ma'am.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:05.85,1:32:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Yes, thank you very much, \NMr. Ruppert.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:07.86,1:32:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) It is very clear to me that you're \Na very holy man, and you are totally
Dialogue: 0,1:32:15.22,1:32:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) surrounded and protected \Nby the love of God wherever you go.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:18.77,1:32:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) And I particularly like the \Nway you said,
Dialogue: 0,1:32:20.55,1:32:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) "Do you ever get a feeling that \NGod is following you with this stuff?"
Dialogue: 0,1:32:23.39,1:32:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) I love it. Thank you very much. \NI do have a question:
Dialogue: 0,1:32:26.13,1:32:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) It's very clear to me that it's\NAAA: All About Addiction.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:34.74,1:32:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) There's no easier way\N-- is there? -- to control people
Dialogue: 0,1:32:38.01,1:32:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) than to get them addicted. \NNow, whether it's called legal drugs,
Dialogue: 0,1:32:43.88,1:32:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) or illegal drugs, a drug\Nis a drug is a drug.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:48.46,1:32:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) I would like to know if you \Nknow how far and to what involvement
Dialogue: 0,1:32:53.91,1:32:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) the American Medical \NAssociation is involved in this.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:59.39,1:33:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:00.95,1:33:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sometimes feel like I would have to be \NGod to answer some of these questions.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:06.27,1:33:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter)
Dialogue: 0,1:33:12.59,1:33:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me put it this way: we have all heard\Nstories about a dysfunctional family,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:18.54,1:33:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where a father is molesting \Na young daughter.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:24.18,1:33:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are other children in the\Nfamily, and there's a wife.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:25.99,1:33:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we look at these tragedies,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:27.58,1:33:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we see how the wife ignores\Nwhat's going on,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:30.83,1:33:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the other children ignore\Nwhat's going on:
Dialogue: 0,1:33:34.55,1:33:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the sake of maintaining\Nthe family image;
Dialogue: 0,1:33:37.27,1:33:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the sake of looking good;
Dialogue: 0,1:33:38.74,1:33:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of the fear that if they expose\Nwhat's going on,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:43.02,1:33:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the father will turn his rage\Nagainst them.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:45.07,1:33:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's a dysfunctional family.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:47.63,1:33:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This country is in that state of denial.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:49.76,1:33:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every aspect of this country is\Naffected by this crisis.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:54.58,1:33:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me define it to you this way\N-- and I'll be real brief with this --
Dialogue: 0,1:33:59.09,1:34:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could the President of the United States,\Nthe Executive Branch,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:04.94,1:34:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- which, theoretically, is empowered\Nover the CIA --
Dialogue: 0,1:34:08.57,1:34:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have permitted the Agency to deal drugs\Nto American citizens?
Dialogue: 0,1:34:14.34,1:34:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, could it have happened \Nwithout him knowing about it?
Dialogue: 0,1:34:17.27,1:34:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Either way, you have just defined the\Ngreatest crisis -- Constitutional crisis --
Dialogue: 0,1:34:21.42,1:34:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in American history \Nsince the Civil War;
Dialogue: 0,1:34:23.98,1:34:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and solving it is going to take\Nthat kind of upheaval.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:27.53,1:34:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leadership in this will have to show\Nthat we can do this non-violently,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:32.44,1:34:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a healthy way, in the American spirit.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:34.70,1:34:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not in the German spirit, not in the\NRussian spirit, not in the Chinese spirit;
Dialogue: 0,1:34:38.98,1:34:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the American spirit.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:40.76,1:34:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Yes, I appreciate that remark.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:42.80,1:34:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) I would like to have us all \Nremember that what, I believe,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:47.85,1:34:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) you have described this\Nevening is not a man-made battle,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:54.41,1:34:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) but we are wrestling against \Nprincipalities and powers in high places,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:59.70,1:35:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) and basically that \Nis a spiritual problem.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:03.08,1:35:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) And we're not going to go out\Nhere as a group of people
Dialogue: 0,1:35:06.24,1:35:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) and conquer this in our own\Nstrength.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:09.20,1:35:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) It'll be like David putting \Non Saul's armor:
Dialogue: 0,1:35:12.22,1:35:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) It doesn't fit. \NIt only weighs us down.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:15.32,1:35:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) But I believe it's in \N1 Chronicles where it tells us,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:18.14,1:35:24.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) "If my people, who are called \Nby my name, will humble themselves"
Dialogue: 0,1:35:24.43,1:35:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) "and pray, and turn \Nfrom their wicked ways,"
Dialogue: 0,1:35:28.69,1:35:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) "then will we hear from \NHeaven, and I will heal their land"
Dialogue: 0,1:35:34.12,1:35:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) And that's what we've \Ngot to come back to.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:36.23,1:35:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) We're kidding ourselves \Nhere, sitting here thinking...
Dialogue: 0,1:35:38.54,1:35:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) -- I appreciate the rally, \Nand I support it wholeheartedly --
Dialogue: 0,1:35:43.20,1:35:46.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) but as a group, \Nwe're kidding ourselves
Dialogue: 0,1:35:46.59,1:35:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) if we think we're going to go\Nout and do this in our own strength.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:50.65,1:35:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) Only history will be repeated \Nagain and again,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:54.34,1:35:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) But it's as we turn to \Nthe Lord Jesus Christ
Dialogue: 0,1:35:57.22,1:35:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) and let Him operate\Nthrough our lives,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:58.81,1:36:03.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Woman) and then put our hand \Nto the plow, we will conquer.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:05.18,1:36:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my fervent hope and response to that:
Dialogue: 0,1:36:07.91,1:36:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Where two or more are gathered in His\Nname, He is also there." (applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:36:13.59,1:36:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What if 10 or 15 thousand are gathered,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:15.22,1:36:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and many of those gather \Nin His name, too? (applause) Yes.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:21.75,1:36:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I very much appreciate \Nthat comment. I did want to...
Dialogue: 0,1:36:25.56,1:36:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) You mentioned earlier about (xx),\Nwhich we've all been most familiar with.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:31.05,1:36:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) As far as my understanding goes,\Nten investigations have begun,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:37.91,1:36:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and I guess the tenth one\Nis in some way going on now.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:43.22,1:36:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) But what has caused these \Nall to end, and the information
Dialogue: 0,1:36:51.47,1:36:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) -- the myriad of tons of information\Nthat have been gathered --
Dialogue: 0,1:36:54.79,1:37:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) to not result in any\Nmeaningful action?
Dialogue: 0,1:37:00.20,1:37:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way this country works is that unless\Nit shows up in {\i1}The Washington Post{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,1:37:06.52,1:37:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}The New York Times{\i0}, {\i1}The Los Angeles{\i0}\N{\i1}Times{\i0}, {\i1}Time,{\i0} or {\i1}Newsweek{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,1:37:10.55,1:37:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,officially, it doesn't exist.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:13.60,1:37:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there can be investigations \Nuntil the cows come home.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:17.64,1:37:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the information is out there. \NWe have it.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:20.69,1:37:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have, it, everybody else has it. \NDozens of other witnesses have it.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:24.18,1:37:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gene Wheaton has it; \NTerry Reed has it. (sp)
Dialogue: 0,1:37:26.32,1:37:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've spoken to Terry several times,\NOK? The point is that
Dialogue: 0,1:37:30.24,1:37:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to make something happen \Nin the collective consciousness
Dialogue: 0,1:37:33.46,1:37:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get it out to the point where \Nsomebody admits it openly.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:36.12,1:37:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Mike, just one moment on that. \NYou know that we know two boys,
Dialogue: 0,1:37:41.38,1:37:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) we know two young teenage, \Nnnocent boys were killed,
Dialogue: 0,1:37:44.61,1:37:48.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and we know a number of other \Npeople relating to that same...
Dialogue: 0,1:37:48.04,1:37:50.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) those deaths, were also killed.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:50.79,1:37:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And we do know that enough \Ninformation is extant to make a case.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:56.10,1:37:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) It seems to me that a rifle shot \Nhas to be fired
Dialogue: 0,1:37:59.67,1:38:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) in order to break through this wall.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:02.95,1:38:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) instead of these little hammers \Nbanging away,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:06.99,1:38:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) some focal point has \Nto be singled out.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:12.87,1:38:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And just hammer it through\Ntill it breaks the dam, because...
Dialogue: 0,1:38:18.82,1:38:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You raise a beautiful point.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:20.73,1:38:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike wants to say something in a second,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:22.39,1:38:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but let me talk to that point \Nfor a second.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:24.78,1:38:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have met... all over the years, I have\Nmet people who are angry with the IRS,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:29.71,1:38:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have met people who\Nare angry over many,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:32.48,1:38:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many different righteous, \Njustified causes,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:36.64,1:38:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they have been a Tower of Babel
Dialogue: 0,1:38:39.81,1:38:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I view this from a political \Nstandpoint alone,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:44.12,1:38:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see the single issue of CIA and drugs
Dialogue: 0,1:38:48.65,1:38:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being the one single issue\Nwhich can crack the armor.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:53.20,1:38:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when will the armor crack? The \Narmor will crack when a farmer in Iowa,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:58.16,1:39:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and somebody in Saint Louis, \Nand Wisconsin, and Colorado
Dialogue: 0,1:39:02.78,1:39:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's Middle America wakes up \Nand catches on to this:
Dialogue: 0,1:39:07.02,1:39:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's when the armor will crack.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:08.85,1:39:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as far as I'm concerned
Dialogue: 0,1:39:09.87,1:39:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and I have many opinions about \Nmany other issues --
Dialogue: 0,1:39:11.56,1:39:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,publicly, I speak only about\NCIA and drugs;
Dialogue: 0,1:39:14.59,1:39:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's the one where I \Nthink we've got a chance to win.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:18.20,1:39:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike wants to say something.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:20.94,1:39:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) Yeah, I wanted to briefly \Nsay exactly that:
Dialogue: 0,1:39:22.94,1:39:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) The people talking about the \NRepublican and the Democratic parties,
Dialogue: 0,1:39:26.76,1:39:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) and one of the things they always\Ntalk about is wedge issues,
Dialogue: 0,1:39:29.77,1:39:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) and they always want to try \Nto drive a wedge.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:32.08,1:39:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) They want to drive a wedge \Nbetween Blacks and Whites;
Dialogue: 0,1:39:34.20,1:39:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) They want to drive a wedge \Nbetween Latinos and Whites,
Dialogue: 0,1:39:36.85,1:39:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) Between Blacks and Latinos:\NThey're constantly looking for issues
Dialogue: 0,1:39:39.76,1:39:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) on the theory of divide\Nand conquer.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:42.17,1:39:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) And when they mean conquer, \Nthat's what they want to do.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:44.07,1:39:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) They're not just talking\Nin figurative terms.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:46.36,1:39:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) And we're looking \Nfor some cement.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:48.31,1:39:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) We're looing for things that are \Ngoing to wedge us together, in a way.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:52.86,1:39:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) And we're looking at this,\Nas we say, "Crack the CIA,"
Dialogue: 0,1:39:55.79,1:39:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) we want to find something that \Nis going to affect the conscience
Dialogue: 0,1:39:58.94,1:40:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) and the consciousness of many,\Nmany people to see our commonality
Dialogue: 0,1:40:03.33,1:40:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) and our common struggle.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:04.76,1:40:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) And I want to respond to what...
Dialogue: 0,1:40:06.60,1:40:09.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Why don't you want to destroy\Nthe cocaine cartels?
Dialogue: 0,1:40:09.37,1:40:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) We want to destroy not only \Nthe cocaine cartels,
Dialogue: 0,1:40:12.18,1:40:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) But we're saying this is much\Nbigger than the problem of cocaine.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:15.07,1:40:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) This is a systematic... \Nin other words:
Dialogue: 0,1:40:16.84,1:40:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) before there was cocaine, \Nthere was heroin.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:18.76,1:40:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) Before there was heroin, \Nthere was opium.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:21.31,1:40:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) Before there was opium, \Nthey were selling liquor to the Indians.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:24.37,1:40:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) Before... they traded slaves for\Ntobacco and addicted people.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:31.12,1:40:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) This is going back half \Na millennium and longer.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:34.63,1:40:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) I just want to say that one \Nof the things about this coalition
Dialogue: 0,1:40:37.48,1:40:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) that I think will distinguish it \Nis that we are not actually trying
Dialogue: 0,1:40:41.35,1:40:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) to get the government to do\Nanything about this,
Dialogue: 0,1:40:43.08,1:40:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) because we understand \Nthat they are problem.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:45.49,1:40:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) We are trying to affect ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:48.20,1:40:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) We're hooked into the \Nrecovery movement.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:51.52,1:40:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) It's not only one person who says\N"I'm an addict," alcohlic, whatever,
Dialogue: 0,1:40:55.50,1:40:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) But there are many people \Nin the Black community:
Dialogue: 0,1:40:57.94,1:41:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) groups called "Mad Dads": \Nmany, many people who are saying
Dialogue: 0,1:41:02.70,1:41:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) we have to take the responsibility\Nto transform ourselves,
Dialogue: 0,1:41:05.65,1:41:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) and by doing that we will transform\Nthis government and society.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:08.94,1:41:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mike) We're not expecting them \Nto solve this problem for us.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:11.24,1:41:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Michael, I'd like to thank you, \Nfirst, for coming this evening.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:21.55,1:41:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Standing up, saying what \Nyou've said. I respect you.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:24.46,1:41:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I appreciate your being here\Nthis evening and what you've said.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:28.35,1:41:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:29.37,1:41:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I have a brief observation myself, \Nand I'd like to get your reponse to it.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:34.47,1:41:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And the observation is that \NThomas Jefferson said
Dialogue: 0,1:41:39.73,1:41:44.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) that we need a revolution \Nevery 20 years.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:44.11,1:41:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) The last time the people \Nof this country stood up
Dialogue: 0,1:41:46.99,1:41:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and told the government,\N"Enough is enough"
Dialogue: 0,1:41:49.78,1:41:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) was 25 years ago when we \Ntold 'em we'd had enough of Vietnam.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:56.38,1:42:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And I think it's time for the people\Nin this country to stand up and say:
Dialogue: 0,1:42:02.03,1:42:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) "Enough is enough,\Nand we've had it."
Dialogue: 0,1:42:07.04,1:42:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And if that's a revolution, \Nand we can do it peaceably,
Dialogue: 0,1:42:09.90,1:42:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) In the streets like we did\N25 years ago, but peaceably,
Dialogue: 0,1:42:15.27,1:42:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Then I'm 100% behind it, and I\Nthink it's an idea whose time has come,
Dialogue: 0,1:42:20.46,1:42:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and there's nothing that's going \Nto stop it.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:23.48,1:42:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And I'm very glad that you're doing\Nthat you're doing, because we need it.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:27.57,1:42:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)
Dialogue: 0,1:42:29.15,1:42:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:30.16,1:42:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Your response, anybody else's\Nresponse.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:31.61,1:42:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All I can say to that is "ditto."
Dialogue: 0,1:42:34.83,1:42:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Yeah: I just want to make a\Ncomment that I think that rally
Dialogue: 0,1:42:37.71,1:42:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) will be real important to this \Nneighborhood in showing,
Dialogue: 0,1:42:42.62,1:42:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) in bringing it out to light to \Nthe average public
Dialogue: 0,1:42:45.20,1:42:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) how you aren't just hurting \Nyourself when you use drugs,
Dialogue: 0,1:42:48.82,1:42:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) but you're hurting your country.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:50.22,1:42:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) And it's OK if people want to \Nhurt themselves, but when you realize
Dialogue: 0,1:42:55.16,1:42:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and when people who are out \Nthere using realize
Dialogue: 0,1:42:57.20,1:43:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) that it's actually hurting their\Ncountry, and their country's behind it,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:00.95,1:43:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and you're sponsoring something
Dialogue: 0,1:43:03.10,1:43:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) that's gonna break your\Nlivelihood apart, and other people's,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:06.26,1:43:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) I think it's gonna bring a lot \Nof light to the neighborhood, so thanks.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:10.88,1:43:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you're right.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:13.30,1:43:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) ...last question...
Dialogue: 0,1:43:16.36,1:43:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) Yes. Unless you demand that the \Ngovernment destroy the cocaine cartel
Dialogue: 0,1:43:22.83,1:43:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and organized crime who have done
Dialogue: 0,1:43:24.88,1:43:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) all this damage to the \NAmerican people,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:26.44,1:43:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) you're not gonna get the \NAmerican people behind you.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:28.35,1:43:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) You're not gonna get\NAmerican justice.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:29.68,1:43:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) My question is, why aren't you... \Nwhy don't you have a plan
Dialogue: 0,1:43:33.29,1:43:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) to destroy the cocaine cartels,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:35.36,1:43:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and why don't you want \Nto make the government do that?
Dialogue: 0,1:43:37.89,1:43:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(different man) This {\i1}is{\i0} the plan!
Dialogue: 0,1:43:39.37,1:43:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) No, I want him to answer\Nthis question.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:41.36,1:43:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to fix the government first.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:42.40,1:43:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't get a government that \Ndoesn't respond to us
Dialogue: 0,1:43:44.13,1:43:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do anything in our interest until \Nwe fix the government.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:46.39,1:43:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) If you're gonna be there \Ntomorrow morning,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:48.06,1:43:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) why don't you make that \Ndemand in front of the press,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:51.07,1:43:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) and for the press to print,\Nsaying,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:53.56,1:43:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Man) "Why {\i1}isn't{\i0} the government \Ndestroying the cocaine cartels?"
Dialogue: 0,1:43:56.24,1:43:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Another Man) Because they \N{\i1}are{\i0} the cartel!
Dialogue: 0,1:43:58.14,1:43:59.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Host) It's nice to have a spirited group, \Nand on behalf of the forum,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:59.93,1:44:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Host) we want to thank Mike Ruppert \Nor an interesting talk.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:03.61,1:44:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Host) Please bear with us. Looking \Nforward to having you come back.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:07.62,1:44:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Host) I do hope you do. Thank you \Nvery much, appreciate it.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:10.33,1:44:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Host begins unrelated announcement)
Dialogue: 0,1:44:15.37,1:44:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC]
Dialogue: 0,1:45:33.43,1:45:44.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Subtitled by "Adjuvant" | CC-BY 4.0]\NRest in peace, Mike.