[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.03,0:00:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, everyone,\Nso Happy New Year, first of all. Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.05,0:00:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I forgot to say that before, \Nso I need to do it now. Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.70,0:00:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So very wonderful to see you all here.\NAnd today I am going to talk Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.56,0:00:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about one of the perennial\Nthemes of Buddhism, I think it is, Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.74,0:00:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is about 'going against the stream'. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.53,0:00:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you heard about the idea of \Ngoing against the stream? Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.74,0:00:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a thing that you find in a number\Nof places in the suttas, this idea, Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.64,0:00:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just want to talk a little bit \Nabout what it actually means, Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.72,0:00:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,various angles on this idea, \Nand also how we can use this idea Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.04,0:00:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to actually enhance our \Nspiritual practice. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.47,0:00:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the idea on the Buddhist\Nteachings about stream, Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.90,0:00:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stream is like a metaphor, Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.59,0:00:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like something which points \Nto something else, Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.65,0:00:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the metaphor, the thing it points to, \None of the most important things Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.02,0:00:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is all the habits of our mind. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.70,0:01:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The habits of a mind is like a stream, \Nsomething that flows on, Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.74,0:01:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like self perpetuating, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.86,0:01:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the nature of a habit, just kind of\Ngoes on whether you want to or not. Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.02,0:01:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you discover that in\Nmeditation practice, right, Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.74,0:01:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you close your eyes, and you see\Nthese blooming habits following you along. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.56,0:01:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you think about all kinds of things \Nwhether you want to or not, Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.98,0:01:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually you want to of course deep down,\Nbut whether you want to or not, Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.41,0:01:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems like these habits\Njust take over the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.46,0:01:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a very important part of this\Nidea of the stream, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.16,0:01:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the habits of the mind that drive you on. Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.57,0:01:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can feel this in your \Nmeditation practice, Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.62,0:01:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stream of the mind, this forced \Ninside of you that drives on by itself. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.49,0:01:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is one of the ideas of "stream"\Nin the suttas, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.22,0:01:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these kinds of innate habits that we have, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.44,0:01:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not really innate, because they can be \Nstopped, Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.12,0:01:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but very fundamental habits of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.05,0:01:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another interesting idea of the 'stream'\Nin the suttas Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.84,0:01:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the thing called 'viññāṇa sota', Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.72,0:02:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a Pali word, I like to use some \Nfancy terminology always. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.29,0:02:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So viññāṇa sota means..\Nthe stream of consciousness, Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.78,0:02:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to the suttas, this idea \Nthat the stream of consciousness Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.23,0:02:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the mind basically which goes on from \None life to another one, Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.07,0:02:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carries on into the future,\Nestablished in this life, Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.39,0:02:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then gets established in the\Nfuture existence. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.92,0:02:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's another stream, which is \Nproblematic, right, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.86,0:02:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stream of habits is problematic,\Nyou want to go against that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.35,0:02:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The stream of consciousness is going on\Nfrom life to life, Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.16,0:02:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's another really problematic one. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.72,0:02:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all of these things are things that we \Ntry to, kind of, slow down to begin with, Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.57,0:02:42.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eventually hopefully, \Ncut those streams entirely. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.29,0:02:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But of all these things, Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.72,0:02:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most important kind of stream \Nis a stream of craving. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.21,0:02:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craving is actually part of the \Nmental habits that we have, Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.12,0:02:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first thing I mentioned, Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.49,0:02:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mental habits are much more \Nthan craving, Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.45,0:02:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but craving is a very important \Npart of it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.77,0:03:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s this desire that always kind of \Ngoes on and on and on, Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.19,0:03:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stream of desire, the mind kind of \Nmoving on to something else, continuously, Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.10,0:03:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the time, never really stopping, Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.02,0:03:11.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never really standing still, \Neven in your meditation Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.100,0:03:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very rare that the mind becomes \Ncompletely still, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.57,0:03:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's actually very difficult to do. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.47,0:03:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's always a little bit of \Nmovement there, Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.87,0:03:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going somewhere, looking for \Nsomething deeper, Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.81,0:03:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once you finally get really happy in your\Nmeditation, you think, 'What's next?' Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.08,0:03:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the stream of craving in action \Nright there. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.04,0:03:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this craving, this desire to find \Nsomething more, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.99,0:03:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something additional in this world\Nis really, really problematic. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.12,0:03:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now there is a few suttas, \Na few discourses of the Buddha Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.44,0:03:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I thought I would bring up, Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.26,0:03:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always bring up some suttas, that's \Nkind of what I've become famous, Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.79,0:03:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not famous for, \NI wouldn't call myself famous, Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.11,0:03:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's kind of what I am known for \Namong some people here anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.34,0:04:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this sutta is from one of the\Nvery nice collections in the Pali Suttas, Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.74,0:04:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called the Itivuttaka, have you\Nheard about the Itivuttaka? Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.04,0:04:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know some of you have, some of you\Nmaybe not. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.69,0:04:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Itivuttaka literally means \N'thus-saidness' or something like that, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.64,0:04:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iti-vuttaka; vuttaka - saidness,\Nthus-saidness, Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.82,0:04:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this collection of suttas is part \Nof the Khuddakanikāya, Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.67,0:04:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the shorter collection, which actually \Nis the longest collection. Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.76,0:04:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is called the shorter\Njust to confuse you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.99,0:04:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, but in this collection is the\NItivuttaka, Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.59,0:04:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the very interesting thing about \Nthe Itivuttaka, Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.08,0:04:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it was a collection of discourses \Nthat was transmitted by a lay woman, Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.16,0:04:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is kind of fascinating, Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.47,0:04:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because sometimes we think about \NBuddhism as very kind of hierarchical Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.07,0:04:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the monks and the nuns and \Nthen laymen, laywomen, Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.22,0:04:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually sometimes you find that it \Ndoesn't matter so much in Buddhism Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.72,0:04:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who you are, what matters is the qualities\Nof your mind, the qualities of your heart, Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.19,0:05:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you have good teachings\Nthat people should remember, Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.11,0:05:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we should keep for posterity, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.24,0:05:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you are worthwhile listening to, \Nwe should listen to you, Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.19,0:05:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what have you got to say? \NDid you hear the teachings of Buddha? Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.83,0:05:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lease come, we want to hear \Nthose teachings. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.08,0:05:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is exactly what happened \Nwith this Itivuttaka, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.70,0:05:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was taught or transmitted by this \Nlaywoman, Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.36,0:05:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it was somehow given \Nto the monks, Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.82,0:05:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the monks will then carry on the \Nchanting, maybe the nuns as well, Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.46,0:05:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.79,0:05:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carry on the chanting of these suttas. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.96,0:05:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is very fascinating. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.84,0:05:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes we have a slightly \None-sided idea of Buddhism, Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.02,0:05:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think sometimes it\Nis more inclusive than we think it is. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.04,0:05:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, so one of the suttas, I think\Nit is the109 of this collection, Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.24,0:05:46.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to this sutta, it starts off \Nwith the Buddha saying, Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.49,0:05:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suppose there was a person who was \Ngoing down a stream that seemed Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.17,0:05:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pleasant and delightful. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.99,0:05:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A person going down a stream \Nmaybe sitting on a raft or something; Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.69,0:06:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what they're doing. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.39,0:06:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kind of Robinson cruiser of India \Non this river. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.28,0:06:09.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So very happy, the stream is pleasant,\Nthe water is the right temperature, Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.91,0:06:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wind is just right, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.54,0:06:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe there is some food on this raft, \NI don't know what, but very pleasant, Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.47,0:06:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the river, going downstream. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.66,0:06:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is kind of exactly what \Nour lives are like. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.21,0:06:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you carry on in this stream of \Ncraving in your life, Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.90,0:06:26.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems pleasant, right? Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.91,0:06:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We think of it as pleasant. Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.54,0:06:30.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We think of the things in our life, Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.53,0:06:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our relationships, \Nthe things that we own, Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.01,0:06:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pleasures that we kind of enjoy \Nin our daily basis. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.79,0:06:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They seem great. \NThey seem marvelous, right? Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.86,0:06:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They seem wonderful.\NWhat is there to fear? Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.08,0:06:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's nothing to fear, right? Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.63,0:06:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're on this beautiful raft \Ngoing down the stream, Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.06,0:06:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have no idea where it's going, Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.67,0:06:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's a good river,\Nit must be going into a good place. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.44,0:06:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is how our minds work. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.16,0:06:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you think about how your mind works, Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.26,0:06:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you talk about the craving \Nand going on the stream of craving, Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.02,0:07:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it always looks good in the future, right? Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.41,0:07:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you think about where you're heading, Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.42,0:07:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it never looks bad, because if it\Nwere looking bad, you wouldn't go there. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.92,0:07:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It always looks good. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.38,0:07:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is kind of the interesting thing \Nabout the idea of craving. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.46,0:07:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you follow that arrow of craving, Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.52,0:07:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the direction of craving, the result \Nalways seems positive. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.38,0:07:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It always looks like you're going \Nto a good place. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.19,0:07:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This kind of relationship, that's the\Nright person for me, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.32,0:07:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's going to be a really good one. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.33,0:07:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you stop at the point \Nwhere the relationship starts, Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.24,0:07:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't go beyond that, Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.48,0:07:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you forget to ask "and then what?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.07,0:07:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The "and then what?", \Nthat's the interesting one, right? Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.74,0:07:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one of my favorite teachings \Nfrom Ajahn Brahm. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.27,0:07:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember that when I first came\Nto Bodhinyana Monastery, Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.31,0:07:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he taught\Nthe "and then what" teaching. Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.41,0:07:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we should write a sub commentary\Non the "and then what" teaching, Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.24,0:07:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I don't think it was \Never written, Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.66,0:07:55.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Buddha never mentioned that.\NMaybe he did actually, Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.69,0:07:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but maybe not precisely in those terms. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.88,0:08:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he did. Yeah, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.44,0:08:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this is exactly the point of\Nsome of the similes of the Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.96,0:08:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is like this "and then what" idea. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.58,0:08:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is a problem in our life, Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.44,0:08:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it looks like we're heading towards \Na positive goal. Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.59,0:08:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we crave, we look to the future,\Nwhere this is all going, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.63,0:08:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it looks beautiful,\Nit looks delightful, Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.11,0:08:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we're not seeing things clearly. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.73,0:08:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are on this river, Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.02,0:08:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't really know whether the river \Nturns right or left, Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.84,0:08:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's going to be around the corner,\Nwe have no idea, but it looks good, Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.27,0:08:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we hold on to it. And then as we\Nare going down this river, Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.81,0:08:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a man who looks on \Nand sees what is going on. Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.43,0:08:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So who is this man, do you think,\Nin the suttas? Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.44,0:08:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, I'm going to tell you... \Nyou don't have to answer. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.29,0:08:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The man is the Buddha. Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.86,0:08:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Buddha looks on, because \Nthe Buddha sees what is going on. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.94,0:08:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Buddha is looking on at humanity,\Nand he is seeing all of us Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.81,0:08:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this river of craving, \Ngoing full speed ahead with desires, Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.31,0:09:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all of these kinds of things,\Nblind, like moles, Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.11,0:09:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no idea where this tunnel\Nis gonna go underground. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.98,0:09:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we just carry on, digging that\Ntunnel, carrying on in the stream, Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.76,0:09:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no idea what's happening. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.85,0:09:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Buddha says, actually, \Nwhere are you going? Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.41,0:09:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, if you carry on in this stream, Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.96,0:09:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to this pool, \Nthere's a pool down there, Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.82,0:09:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in that pool, what do you find? Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.66,0:09:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whirlpools, waves, saltwater crocodiles, \Nnot freshwater, saltwater crocodiles. Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.14,0:09:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The salties is not the freshies\Nbecause the salties are the scary ones. Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.27,0:09:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then monsters. \NMonsters are kind of the fourth one. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.03,0:09:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure whether it's the monsters \Nor the sharks or something like that. Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.76,0:09:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am Australian now, so I have to know \Nthe difference between Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.90,0:09:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the salties and the freshies. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.21,0:09:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the fellow who did this translation, \Nhe's an Australian monk, Ajahn Sujato. Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.26,0:09:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, he did this and he knew the \Ndifference between Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.74,0:10:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saltwater and freshwater crocodiles, \Nhe deliberately put saltwater crocodiles, Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.50,0:10:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we knew this was really dangerous, Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.76,0:10:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not some kind of small, minor, cute \Ncrocodile like the freshwater crocodiles. Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.89,0:10:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's what he sees. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.83,0:10:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he carries-on, that's where \Nhe's gonna go. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.62,0:10:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, if you meet up with a \Nsaltwater crocodile, Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.65,0:10:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's lunchtime for that \Nsaltwater crocodile; Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.13,0:10:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's it, you're finished. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.68,0:10:27.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this is kind of fascinating, right? Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.23,0:10:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're on this beautiful trip, \Ngoing down this stream, Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.100,0:10:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything seems so beautiful, Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.76,0:10:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's all these saltwater crocodiles\Nwaiting for you around the corner. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.63,0:10:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happens if you know that there are \Nsaltwater crocodiles around the corner? Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.63,0:10:41.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You get pretty scared, right? Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.69,0:10:44.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are very scary beasts, \Nthese saltwater crocodiles, Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.89,0:10:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are really scary, and so \Nyou become very worried about this. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.26,0:10:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course what happens \Nonce you get worried Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.84,0:10:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you start paddling for life \Nwith your hands and feet Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.04,0:10:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go against the stream. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.81,0:11:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hopefully the current isn't so strong,\Nhopefully it's quite weak, Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.86,0:11:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can paddle faster than the stream \Nwill take you down Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.86,0:11:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the saltwater crocodiles. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.65,0:11:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the idea; Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.86,0:11:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once you understand the \Ndanger of craving, Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.09,0:11:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why is craving so dangerous? Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.92,0:11:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's just stay with that just for a \Ncouple of moments before I carry on.. Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.67,0:11:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it about craving that is \Nso dangerous? Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.30,0:11:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it about this sweet thing that we \Nhave in our life Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.49,0:11:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that seems to give us so much happiness;\Nhow can that be dangerous? Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.16,0:11:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first reason of course is that \Ncraving makes us attached, Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.24,0:11:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it makes us hold onto things \Nin the world. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.56,0:11:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the moment you hold on to \Nthings in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.21,0:11:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're asking for suffering.\NYou're saying, please, may I suffer! Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.46,0:11:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may not actually be saying that, Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.84,0:11:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you should be saying that,\Nthat's what I'm saying. Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.52,0:11:49.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the moment you hold onto things, Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.45,0:11:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that those things \Nare impermanent, Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.80,0:11:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that they are unreliable, Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.03,0:11:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know you can't hold on to them. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.08,0:11:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you grasp things that are \Ninherently ungraspable, Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.49,0:12:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have a problem. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.49,0:12:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that problem is called suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.82,0:12:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a small one, this doesn't really \Nsound like saltwater crocodiles, Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.58,0:12:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe whirlpool, may be a wave \Nbut not really a salty, Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.55,0:12:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,salties are too, kind of, scary for that. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.95,0:12:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's worse than that, right? Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.67,0:12:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is worse is that in our pursuit \Nof all the sensual pleasures in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.26,0:12:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we tend to do stupid things. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.09,0:12:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at your life when you have \Ndone something unwholesome, Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.92,0:12:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I look at my life when I have done \Nsomething unwholesome, Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.93,0:12:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very often it was in connection with \Nsome kind of sensual pleasures Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.25,0:12:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that didn't go my way or \Nsomething like that, Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.75,0:12:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you start doing things, \Nsaying things, Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.80,0:12:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acting in ways that are terrible,\Ncertainly thinking in bad ways. Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.26,0:12:46.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the part of the problem, is \Nthat external world of the five senses, Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.100,0:12:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this craving that we are pursuing\Nis inherently connected to violence Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.16,0:12:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to all of these problems that we \Ncall immorality; Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.08,0:13:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violence, conflict, and all of these \Nkinds of things in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.20,0:13:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we share that \Nwhole external world with other people. Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.35,0:13:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we share with others, Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.17,0:13:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's inherently going to be a \Nconflicting world, Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.78,0:13:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that world of the five senses. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.74,0:13:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because it is inherently involved with\Nconflict, it is really problematic. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.23,0:13:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this was one of those really \Ninteresting insights I had in my practice Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.25,0:13:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I saw that. I thought ‘wow, this is \Nwhat the sensory realm really is like. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.37,0:13:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a realm of conflict’. Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.20,0:13:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot divide the sensory realm, \Nyou cannot separate it Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.94,0:13:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the idea of conflict, of ill will, \Nand all of these kinds of things. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.02,0:13:38.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have to go together by definition, Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.11,0:13:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we share a world where \Neveryone wants more; Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.35,0:13:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conflict has to arise as a consequence. Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.66,0:13:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And once you see that, that whole world \Nactually looks far less attractive, Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.92,0:13:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you know that the moment \Nyou buy into that, Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.83,0:13:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you also buy into all the problems,\Nall the immorality, all the conflict, Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.35,0:14:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the pain that also comes\Nwith that world, Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.58,0:14:04.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you start to shift \Nin a different direction. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.21,0:14:06.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You think about life in a different way. Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.43,0:14:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You think about your goals in life \Nin a new way because of that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.83,0:14:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then your paddle, and you paddle,\Nand paddle and paddle as crazy Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.01,0:14:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as far as you can. Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.22,0:14:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where do you go when you paddle? Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.05,0:14:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, this is the next part.\NWhere do you go when you paddle? Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.91,0:14:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first thing is that \Nyou can't just paddle. Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.48,0:14:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Buddhist idea is \Nyou want to cross the stream. Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.87,0:14:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So first of all you paddle a little bit,\Nand then you eventually realize Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.26,0:14:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to cross this blooming stream,\Nbut initially you paddle. Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.59,0:14:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of the other interesting suttas \NI'm going to bring up now, Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.56,0:14:42.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which kind of I think illustrates \Nthis point a little bit. Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.63,0:14:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is the idea, not just that\Nthe stream is dangerous, Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.73,0:14:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as we go into this stream, we tend\Nto become coarser gradually over time. Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.82,0:14:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It gets worse and worse, \Nas if the stream goes faster and faster Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.58,0:15:01.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes more and more dangerous \Nas we carry on. Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.100,0:15:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's not just that we are going \Nin a stream, Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.70,0:15:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the stream actually gets worse also \Nas we go along. Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.11,0:15:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm sure you can probably relate\Nto that to some extent, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.40,0:15:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In craving in life, sometimes we\Nhave kind of craving for refined things; Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.72,0:15:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes that craving kind of \Nbecomes more and more obsessive, Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.42,0:15:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it goes in the wrong direction, Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.06,0:15:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't really find the satisfaction\Nthat we're looking for. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.92,0:15:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because we don't find \Nthe satisfaction, Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.10,0:15:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we try something that's more coarse, \Ngoes further, Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.14,0:15:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,takes the whole thing to another level, Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.25,0:15:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as we take this craving further \Nto another level, Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.08,0:15:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are coarsening our minds,\Nand we're kind of on a downward slope, Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.40,0:15:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making things worse and worse basically. Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.97,0:15:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can see this in the world, \Npeople are never really satisfied. Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.40,0:15:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People never really feel that sense of\Nokay, I’ve reached a limit. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.13,0:15:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's a beautiful sutta about \Nthis as well. Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.94,0:16:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a sutta which is slightly \Nkind of mythological in content, Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.22,0:16:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's called the Aggañña Sutta, Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.08,0:16:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,found in the long discourses \Nof the Buddha, number 27. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.11,0:16:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this particular sutta is a sutta \Nabout beginnings. Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.87,0:16:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It shows how the world kind of \Nslides down from the beginning. Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.38,0:16:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, the world sliding down \Nfrom the beginning Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.80,0:16:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is another metaphor \Nfor the mind also sliding down, Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.65,0:16:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becoming coarser, more obsessed, \Nincreasing these cravings as we go along. Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.03,0:16:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the kind of beautiful things\Nabout this sutta, Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.53,0:16:37.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it starts off by saying, \Nthis is about beginnings, right? Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.73,0:16:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So beginnings is usually in religion \Nmeans the beginning of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.93,0:16:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in Buddhism, what is the \Nbeginning of the world in Buddhism? Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.73,0:16:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The beginning of the world is\Nthe end of the previous world, right? Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.47,0:16:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the Buddhist idea. Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.92,0:16:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this sutta begins with the ending.\NThis is kind of cool, this is Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.13,0:17:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way Buddhism talks about \Nbeginnings, it starts with endings. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.78,0:17:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the previous world comes to an end. Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.85,0:17:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because the previous world \Ncomes to an end, Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.17,0:17:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have all these beings that exist\Nin a very elevated and beautiful state, Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.82,0:17:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that is what happens when \Nthe world comes to an end in this way. Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.70,0:17:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They exist in a very beautiful, \Nelevated state, Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.44,0:17:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there is no craving,\Nthere's no desire. Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.13,0:17:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The beautiful idea here is that \Nthey are feeding on bliss, pītibhakkhā Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.10,0:17:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that a beautiful idea, \Nfeeding on bliss? Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.38,0:17:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s this idea you don't need any \Nnutriment from the outside, Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.80,0:17:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't need any nutriment \Nto support your body, Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.42,0:17:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you feed on bliss. Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.32,0:17:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bliss is what sustains you, \Nbliss is what gives life meaning. Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.25,0:17:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forget about all this coarse stuff \Nin the human realm. Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.00,0:17:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the really refined stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.07,0:17:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How does it go again? I can't remember. Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.62,0:18:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, so starting in this very \Nhigh realm, but then Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.55,0:18:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the previous universe comes to an end, \Nthe new universe starts. Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.29,0:18:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, kind of, one big bang \Nafter the other if you like. Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.20,0:18:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of the Buddhist idea of things. Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.15,0:18:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then as the new world evolves, Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.37,0:18:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah, these beings, when kind of\Nthe world becomes available, Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.28,0:18:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they start to get reborn in\Nslightly lower destinations. Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.80,0:18:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this lower destinations, \Nbecause the world evolves, Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.62,0:18:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is material things. Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.21,0:18:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when the material things\Nof that world evolve, Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.57,0:18:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of those material things will seem \Ndelightful to these people. Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.52,0:18:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or these beings, Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.18,0:18:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are not people at this point, \Nthey are just beings, Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.85,0:18:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feeding on bliss or whatever. Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.39,0:18:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most people don't feed on bliss, \Nat least not all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.38,0:18:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe hopefully sometimes, \Nnot all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.80,0:18:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the earth kind of appears, \Nand all these material things appear, Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.07,0:18:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as these things appear, Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.09,0:18:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they start to look out, and see \N''Oh what might this be? Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.45,0:18:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What is going on here?" Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.05,0:18:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they go down to this earth, \Nto this material substance, Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.99,0:19:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they break a piece off, \Nand they think what might this be? Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.79,0:19:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they taste it. Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.53,0:19:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the moment they taste it, \Nbecause the taste is so beautiful; Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.96,0:19:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like.. the translation says, \Nit's sweet like wild Manuka Honey, Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.10,0:19:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something like that.\NBeautiful taste. Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.15,0:19:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that moment, \Ncraving is born in that being. Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.15,0:19:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's kind of extraordinary\Nwhen you think about it. Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.29,0:19:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because here you have these beings who\Nare completely content, Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.17,0:19:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely happy, feeding on bliss, \Nbut because the sense of self, Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.34,0:19:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there is a doer inside\Nthat makes people act, Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.74,0:19:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though there's nothing to act for, \Nbut the identifying with that doer Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.84,0:19:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drives you on to do things. Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.37,0:19:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that activity that you do then \Ngives rise to craving as a consequence. Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.65,0:19:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a person that had no craving, \Nthat was perfectly content, Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.61,0:19:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that didn't needs anything in the \Nwhole world, Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.84,0:20:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the restless nature\Nof people or beings, craving arises. Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.72,0:20:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And once that craving arises, \Nbecause craving is coarse Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.38,0:20:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compared to the very\Ncontented state of human beings, Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.54,0:20:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their body becomes more coarse. Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.00,0:20:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as their body becomes coarse,\Nthe world around them becomes coarse. Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.57,0:20:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the world around us is just a \Nreflection of our own minds, in large part Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.15,0:20:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depending on how you're reborn, \Nand all these kinds of things, Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.30,0:20:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but our experience of the world \Nis reflected in our minds. Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.48,0:20:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the world becomes more coarse.\NAnd when the world becomes more coarse, Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.09,0:20:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they get more craving, and it builds up,\Nmore and more craving, Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.70,0:20:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating new things, eventually they \Nstart putting up boundaries, Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.37,0:20:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is my stuff, I want to eat this. Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.61,0:20:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And once they put up boundaries, \Nthey start stealing from each other, Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.91,0:20:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they start stealing from each other \Nthey start lying Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.63,0:20:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're gonna get penalized. Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.35,0:20:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see the coarseness is\Nbecoming worse and worse and worse, Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.17,0:20:58.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,driving on, until one day they say\Nthe lifespan has declined to five years, Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.29,0:21:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's this sword, \Nwhat they call the sword interval, Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.74,0:21:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is when they run after each other\Nlike wild beasts, Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.68,0:21:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cutting each other down \Nand killing each other, Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.96,0:21:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of reach rock bottom, Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.62,0:21:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then things start to turn around \Nand it goes up again. Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.77,0:21:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the nature of the mind is \Nkind of going downwards, Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.78,0:21:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spiraling out of control, Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.74,0:21:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not really understanding that things are \Nheading in the wrong direction, Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.99,0:21:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to find satisfaction, when \Nno satisfaction can really be found. Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.85,0:21:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is an important aspect \Nof this idea of the stream. Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.70,0:21:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notice that in yourself, because it can\Nsometimes be easy to see Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.01,0:21:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you are too fixed on craving. Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.68,0:21:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are not like that, Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.13,0:21:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can see it in people around us \Nin the world very often. Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.69,0:21:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these are two ideas about the idea \Nof going... this is the flow, Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.12,0:21:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm going to come to \N'going against the flow' very soon. Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.95,0:21:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really what this is all about. Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.30,0:21:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s just kind of setting the scene \Nfor going against the flow. Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.55,0:22:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's one more sutta \Nthat kind of illustrate, this point Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.15,0:22:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the flow of craving quite nicely, Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.37,0:22:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a slightly different way. Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.20,0:22:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is one of my \Nreally favorite suttas. Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.61,0:22:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every sutta is my favorite;\Nthis is my kind of favorite favorite. Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.67,0:22:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not really, they are all favorites. Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.39,0:22:20.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this sutta is called \Nthe Raṭṭhapāla Sutta. Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.41,0:22:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Raṭṭhapāla is a name of a person, \Nhe was called Raṭṭhapāla, Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.39,0:22:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in this Sutta this monk called \NRaṭṭhapāla, he goes to meet a king. Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.77,0:22:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This king is called Koravya, Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.58,0:22:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so he meets this king, and this king \Nis really old, he is about to die, Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.22,0:22:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he looks at Raṭṭhapāla, Raṭṭhapāla \Nis a young man, he is already an Arahant. Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.31,0:22:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this King looks at this young men \Nand asks Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.54,0:22:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Why have you gone forth? Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.00,0:22:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're young, you're healthy,\Nyou're in the prime of life, Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.12,0:22:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your family is wealthy,\Nyou have all these relatives, Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.60,0:22:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have everything, everything\Nanyone could want in life. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.56,0:22:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why have you gone forth? Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.69,0:22:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to hear the secret behind \Nthis magic of the Buddha.” Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.58,0:23:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The magic of the Buddha,\Nthat's what they call it, the magic, Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.72,0:23:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they call it the converting magic \Nof the Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.02,0:23:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because when the Buddha speaks, \Nit's like, wow, okay, Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.54,0:23:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I better become a monk straight away,\Nor a nun. Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.20,0:23:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you don't want to become a \Nmonk or nun after this talk, Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.32,0:23:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means that I have a long way to go\Nbefore I reach the level of the Buddha! Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.39,0:23:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably a very long way, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.92,0:23:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he speaks to Raṭṭhapāla,\Nthis king, and he says, Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.52,0:23:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why on earth did you go forth? Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.29,0:23:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is kind of really fascinating,\Nbecause if we get these teachings, Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.61,0:23:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then maybe the chances are \Nthat we follow suit. Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.00,0:23:43.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Buddha, not the Buddha,\NRaṭṭhapāla says, Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.11,0:23:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, there are four summaries of the \NDhamma that made me become a monastic, Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.27,0:23:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that made me go forth, and eventually\Nbecoming an Arahant, Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.06,0:23:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a fully awakened person. Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.53,0:23:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, one of these summaries of the\NDhamma is that the world is incomplete, Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.89,0:24:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is insatiate, it is a slave to craving. Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.97,0:24:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world is incomplete, insatiate, \Na slave to craving. Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.77,0:24:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what does that mean? What does it \Nmean 'the world is incomplete?' Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.43,0:24:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the world is us. Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.97,0:24:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each one of us is like the world, \Nthe world is our world. Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.19,0:24:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So beings are incomplete. \NWhat does that mean? Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.95,0:24:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means that we feel like \Nwe are not fulfilled, right? Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.34,0:24:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It feels like there's something \Nmissing inside of us. Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.86,0:24:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It feels like there is a hole that \Nwe need to fill up somehow within us. Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.66,0:24:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is why we go out into the world. Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.29,0:24:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is why we get into relationships, Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.54,0:24:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Relationship is precisely the idea of kind\Nof forming something more than ourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.61,0:24:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is kind of a very important aspect \Nof this idea of falling in love and Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.14,0:24:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having a relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.56,0:24:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is an idea of feeling more complete Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.59,0:24:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through someone else, \Nwith the help of someone else, Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.11,0:24:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though that obviously is \Nquite dangerous, Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.45,0:25:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because a relationships have to have\Nan end to it, still that's what we do. Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.53,0:25:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all of these things that \Nwe're doing in life, Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.85,0:25:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting the right house, the right job, \Nwhich is going to be really satisfactory, Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.92,0:25:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right kind of career, Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.89,0:25:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these things; \Ngetting popular in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.60,0:25:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very important one,\Nall of these things, building up, Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.69,0:25:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is how we're going to feel \Ncomplete. Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.14,0:25:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is kind of the idea in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.25,0:25:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here, Raṭṭhapāla says, \Nthe world is incomplete. Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.57,0:25:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of those things that we're \Nseeking in the world Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.49,0:25:32.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are never going to\Nmake us feel complete. Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.79,0:25:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's always going to be \Nanother desire behind that one. Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.58,0:25:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's always going to be more\Ngoing on into the future. Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.63,0:25:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no final satisfaction \Nin that world. Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.76,0:25:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, there isn't any real \Nsatisfaction at all. Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.18,0:25:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often it's the opposite, \Nthere's actually more dissatisfaction, Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.80,0:25:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because when you realize that \Nit actually doesn't work out, Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.14,0:25:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just crave even more,\Nfor even more things, Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.91,0:25:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that are even more coarse, \Nand you don't actually get anywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.88,0:26:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world is incomplete. Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.99,0:26:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is insatiate. Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.77,0:26:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no satisfaction, \Nbecause there is no completion. Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.99,0:26:08.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no satisfaction. Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.41,0:26:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are the slave of craving. Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.44,0:26:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a beautiful little saying,\N'you are the slave of craving'. Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.10,0:26:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very often, we think the exact opposite. Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.74,0:26:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We think we are the masters of craving. Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.65,0:26:23.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually we enjoy craving, Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.17,0:26:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because craving will get us \Nwhat we want, right? Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.02,0:26:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we crave, we will go into the world, \Nwe will fulfill ourselves, Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.69,0:26:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll get what we actually want \Nin this life. Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.83,0:26:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So craving is good. Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.84,0:26:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the really beautiful things the\NBuddha points out in another sutta, Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.51,0:26:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's called Chachakkasutta MN 146\NI think (148) if you want to look it up. Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.41,0:26:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in that Sutta, the Buddha says \Nthat not only do we enjoy craving, Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.47,0:26:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we identify with craving.\NWe think that we are craving. Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.82,0:27:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can that be, when craving is \Noften so painful and so restless? Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.49,0:27:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the reason is \Nwhy we identify with craving Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.62,0:27:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because we are doers,\Nwe identify with doing. Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.34,0:27:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you ever noticed how you\Nidentify with doing, Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.78,0:27:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you feel alive when you do, Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.62,0:27:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you feel you are expressing \Nyourself when you do things? Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.94,0:27:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a very important part in our \Nmodern culture, Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.04,0:27:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea of expressing ourselves, Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.21,0:27:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because what you are doing there is\Nyou're expressing, Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.98,0:27:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are using a side of the ego that \Nindulges in the activity of doing. Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.97,0:27:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We identify with the doing itself. Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.61,0:27:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because you identify with the \Ndoing, craving is your friend. Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.13,0:27:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because craving is what makes you do. Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.74,0:27:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doing and craving are two sides \Nof the same coin. Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.49,0:27:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without the craving you can't\Nreally do very much. Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.79,0:27:48.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's why we also identify with the\Ncraving itself. Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.53,0:27:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the Buddha turns it around, \Ninstead of identifying with craving, Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.21,0:27:55.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,craving is the slave driver. Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.39,0:27:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craving is the thing that makes \Nyou restless. Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.06,0:28:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craving is the thing that always \Ndrives you on Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.66,0:28:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from one thing to the other one, \Nwithout end. Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.22,0:28:05.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can never rest when there is craving. Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.69,0:28:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craving says, do this, and \Nyou says, yes, master, please, Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.16,0:28:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me run quickly to this goal, \Nwhatever it might be. Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.51,0:28:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you follow along with craving \Nwithout really stopping and thinking Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.08,0:28:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's a good idea. Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.18,0:28:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are the slave of craving.\NAnd how can we understand that? Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.36,0:28:25.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the one of the ways of \Nunderstanding that, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.43,0:28:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is through meditation practice. Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.44,0:28:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you become peaceful in meditation,\Nas things start to calm down, Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.82,0:28:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you start to understand this\Nduality of craving and peace, Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.23,0:28:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how they are two opposites. Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.43,0:28:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How one is really delightful, Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.76,0:28:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while the other one is \Ninherently just agitated, Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.46,0:28:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restlessness, driving on, \Nnever being able to rest, Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.34,0:28:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking that you're going\Nsomewhere worthwhile, Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.71,0:28:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when actually it is just more of the \Nsame down the road Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.59,0:28:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again and again and again. Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.96,0:28:58.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just occurred to me Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.11,0:29:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how we often get complaints that \NBuddhism is so pessimistic, Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.03,0:29:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe I should stop talking like this, \Nthis is kind of going really ........ Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.25,0:29:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to come to the \Nsolution, right? Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.11,0:29:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much negativity, wow, \Nthat's really bad. Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.92,0:29:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do we resolve all of this? Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.28,0:29:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we kind of.. what can we do\Nabout all of this? Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.26,0:29:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The slave, this idea of a stream going \Non and kind of moving us into the future. Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.16,0:29:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can we deal with this? Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.76,0:29:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how to deal with this, actually, Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.89,0:29:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first of all, we have to kind of \Nunderstand some of these streams, Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.91,0:29:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how to think about them. Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.58,0:29:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'll talk a little bit about\Nkind of streams from different angles, Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.45,0:29:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then see what we can do about them. Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.68,0:29:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I'm going to look \Nat the very end, Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.79,0:29:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards how we can enter an \Nalternative stream. Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.39,0:29:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where it gets really exciting. Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.24,0:29:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the alternative stream? Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.72,0:29:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there a different stream that maybe\Nnot heading towards the crocodiles, Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.20,0:29:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's heading towards happiness, \Njoy, bliss, insight, understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.01,0:30:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wisdom, all of these kinds of things. Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.46,0:30:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the cool kind of stream \Nwhere we really want to go. Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.58,0:30:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of the ways of thinking about \Nthe streams of the Dhamma Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.68,0:30:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what is sometimes called in the Suttas \Nthe Aṭṭha-loka-dhamma; Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.29,0:30:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eight worldly conditions, or the \Neight worldly things. Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.97,0:30:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these things are, \None of these things is like Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.69,0:30:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,praise and blame is one of them, \Npraise and blame, Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.86,0:30:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,popularity, unpopularity, \Nhappiness and suffering, Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.19,0:30:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gain and loss. \NSo these are the eight of them. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.43,0:30:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these are eight aspects \Nof the streams of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.36,0:30:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're kind of very interesting,\Nbecause they basically summarize Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.71,0:30:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sort of things that we are \Ninterested in the world Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.34,0:30:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that make the world \Ncome alive for us. Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.49,0:30:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first one of those is \Npraise and blame. Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.46,0:30:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a very interesting one, Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.28,0:31:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is so addictive to be praised, \Nand people often live to be praised, Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.28,0:31:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what they want \Nin their life. Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.76,0:31:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But of course, you realize very soon Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.56,0:31:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're trying to get praised \Nall the time that you can't control it, Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.94,0:31:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually the world doesn't \Nwork like that. Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.15,0:31:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you are on this boat kind of\Nrejoicing and being praised or whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.67,0:31:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soon enough you're going to have \Nsuffering as a consequence, Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.55,0:31:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's no way you're going \Nto be able to sustain Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.28,0:31:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all that praise all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.25,0:31:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of the ways that I like \Nto think about the idea of Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.03,0:31:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,praise and blame\Nin my own life is the idea that Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.83,0:31:33.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most people who praise me \Nor who blame me, Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.94,0:31:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually often that is for \Nsuch superficial, irrelevant things. Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.18,0:31:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And most of the people who praise Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.70,0:31:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and blame you, what do they\Nunderstand anyway Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.94,0:31:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what is really worthwhile \Nin the world? Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.34,0:31:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what I think.. Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.72,0:31:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never say it, but I think it. \NI just said it right now. I forgot. Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.98,0:31:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these are things you can think, Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.44,0:31:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you have to be careful with \Nsaying them; Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.58,0:31:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise it might become problematic. Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.84,0:32:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are things in Buddhism you have \Nto keep kind of private. Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.04,0:32:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is true though, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.43,0:32:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most people in the world don't really\Nunderstand Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.93,0:32:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is really praiseworthy, \Nand what is really blameworthy. Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.23,0:32:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, very often we get praised for things \Nand blamed Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.72,0:32:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are completely irrelevant,\Nthat don't really matter at all. Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.31,0:32:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why do we get attached to all of these \Nthings that don’t really matter? Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.58,0:32:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone praises you for, oh, that's a \Nbeautiful shawl you have, Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.95,0:32:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is quite nice, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.26,0:32:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So don't attach, right? Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.06,0:32:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we say these things and Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.33,0:32:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually it doesn't really matter whether \Nyou have a beautiful shawl or not. Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.97,0:32:43.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't matter whatever you are doing, Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.100,0:32:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh, you got a nice new car or whatever. Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.87,0:32:48.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These things are kind of \Ncompletely irrelevant, Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.15,0:32:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet we attach to these kinds of things. Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.44,0:32:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first thing to understand is that \Nmost people don't understand Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.96,0:32:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is really praiseworthy, or \Nwhat is blameworthy. Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.43,0:33:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because of that, most of the time, \Njust forget about it. It doesn't matter. Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.17,0:33:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you should ask yourself, \Nyou should ask, Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.32,0:33:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the praise something really useful \Nand really good? Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.58,0:33:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it is, okay, then fine, Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.76,0:33:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if it is true. Okay? No, issue. Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.01,0:33:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you get blamed, ask yourself, \NIs there something going on there Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.98,0:33:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is worthwhile, \Nokay, then take it on board Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.28,0:33:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe correct your direction \Na little bit. Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.76,0:33:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But lot of the time, there's no need \Nto pay much attention to these things. Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.21,0:33:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only time you really \Nshould pay attention Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.15,0:33:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is if someone like the Buddha \Npraises you. Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.70,0:33:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the Buddha says, 'Good on you'. Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.75,0:33:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wouldn't say that, but something \Nsimilar like that, Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.33,0:33:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'you're practicing well', \Nthen, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.58,0:33:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's when you should listen, Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.80,0:33:49.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that is someone who\Nunderstands what is worthwhile. Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.25,0:33:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what you find is some of the most \Nfamous teachers in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.36,0:33:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teachers you may think \Nmight be Arahants, Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.02,0:34:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be stream enterers, \Nmight have some deep insight, Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.47,0:34:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't praise very much at all, \Nnor do they blame very much. Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.97,0:34:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They encourage you more just by \Nbeing kind, by being gentle, Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.83,0:34:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by kind of saying things that .....\Nsometimes they might praise you, Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.75,0:34:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not a lot of praise coming out, Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.84,0:34:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor is there much blame. \NIt’s just a gentle kind of encouragement. Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.72,0:34:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How is your meditation going? Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.99,0:34:23.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, I'm getting some happiness and joy. Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.41,0:34:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, very good carry on. Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.21,0:34:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ajahn Brahm says that, right? \NVery good, carry on! Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.80,0:34:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says that all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.66,0:34:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is kind of the idea, Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.37,0:34:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think they know that if you get \Npraised too much, or blame too much, Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.10,0:34:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just attach to these things,\Nyou don't use those things too much. Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.06,0:34:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this is kind of the idea, how we deal \Nwith praise and blame in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.98,0:34:49.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We look at the person who's \Nblaming us, or praising us, Dialogue: 0,0:34:49.25,0:34:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are they really worthwhile, taking them \Nseriously or not? Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.98,0:34:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the time, not necessarily. Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.28,0:34:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's praise each other instead for\Nthe things that are really worthwhile. Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.25,0:35:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you see people in the community \Nwho are doing well, who are being kind, Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.10,0:35:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is a good opportunity to praise them Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.06,0:35:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for practicing the spiritual life, \Nfor doing the right thing. Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.80,0:35:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a great opportunity. Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.93,0:35:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, praise each other for the nice\Nshawls as well, absolutely. Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.76,0:35:15.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be kind to each other, Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.93,0:35:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it is really up to the person \Nwho is receiving it to decide Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.68,0:35:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's important or not. Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.25,0:35:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't be afraid of praise, \Npraising others, please do so, Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.79,0:35:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a beautiful thing to do, Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.18,0:35:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we do it in the right way \Nwithout any ego involved. Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.02,0:35:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's also our job to know \Nwhen the praise really matters or not. Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.18,0:35:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other thing of these eight worldly \Ndhammas is the idea of Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.72,0:35:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being popular or unpopular,\Nor being famous or living in obscurity. Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.82,0:35:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is another one. Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.45,0:35:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, the idea in Buddhism is that \Na lot of the things that we think of Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.25,0:35:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,popularity in the world, \Nagain, is very superficial. Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.67,0:35:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are popular for kind of \Ncrazy things in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.90,0:36:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people are famous \Nfor being famous, as they say. Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.76,0:36:03.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't really have any \Ngood reasons for it. Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.43,0:36:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or they are famous just for being\Na movie star. Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.62,0:36:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, you are a movie star, so you become \Nfamous automatically. Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.53,0:36:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or you are rich, if you're rich\Nyou become famous. Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.55,0:36:13.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're very poor, \Nyou also become famous, right? Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.99,0:36:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like us, we are Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.85,0:36:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either very rich, or very poor, \Nthe two ends of the kind of scale. Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.14,0:36:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So someone like Ajahn Brahm, \Nvery famous, not because he's rich, Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.19,0:36:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually, in part because he's\Npoor, right? Yes, that's true, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.07,0:36:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's actually true that because..... Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.79,0:36:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he has nothing, and yet he is one of the \Nmost happiest persons imaginable, Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.33,0:36:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least that I know,\Nalways very happy. Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.36,0:36:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's kind of what makes life \Ninteresting, Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.14,0:36:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you see that contrast\Nbetween the absolute having nothing, Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.10,0:36:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the happiness on the other side. Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.08,0:36:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what makes the dhamma \Nso interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.01,0:36:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So again, all of this popularity is \Noften so superficial. Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.68,0:36:54.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we want to be popular, Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.71,0:36:57.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should become popular \Nbecause you are a good person, Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.39,0:36:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you have metta, \Nbecause you have kindness, Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.84,0:37:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you have compassion for\Npeople in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.29,0:37:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the kind of popularity \Nwe should seek for. Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.69,0:37:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you don't become popular \Nwhen you live like that, Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.37,0:37:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then popularity is irrelevant, Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.46,0:37:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't matter. \NLet the popularity go, Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.96,0:37:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because actually, it doesn't matter. Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.36,0:37:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some beautiful verses in the\Nsuttas that says something like, Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.44,0:37:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you can find a wise companion, \Nthen you should travel together Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.49,0:37:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and kind of develop together\Nin the practice. Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.55,0:37:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you cannot find a wise companion, \Nif all you can find is a fool, Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.08,0:37:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it's better to go alone, like an \Nelephant in the forest Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.84,0:37:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something like that. Dialogue: 0,0:37:40.54,0:37:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This idea that all this popularity \Nis really irrelevant. Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.21,0:37:48.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, when you really understand \Nwhat the dhamma is about, Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.51,0:37:50.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,popularity is a hassle. Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.100,0:37:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to be more unpopular. \NNot me, I'm not so advanced yet, Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.43,0:37:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but some other people, right? Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.03,0:38:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I listen to Ajahn Brahm, \Nsometimes he says things that Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.10,0:38:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people would think he's crazy, \Nit's kind of completely upside down Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.26,0:38:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what you normally would think. Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.38,0:38:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Ajahn Brahm says, Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.86,0:38:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we do this, there will be fewer people \Ncoming to the monastery. Let's do this! Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.03,0:38:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughs) Dialogue: 0,0:38:14.63,0:38:18.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said "No, Ajahn don't, that's bad. \NWe shouldn't do that. Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.01,0:38:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's good that people come\Nto the monastery". Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.12,0:38:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, no, we should have fewer people. Dialogue: 0,0:38:22.48,0:38:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't actually mean it 100%, right?\NHe wants people to come to the monastery Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.73,0:38:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to share the dhamma and, \Nrejoice and offering together. Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.74,0:38:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course he does. Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.98,0:38:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he's making a point that a lot\Nof people is often kind of problematic Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.44,0:38:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a dhamma point of view. Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.08,0:38:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If your meditation is really deep, \Nyou want to be in solitude. Dialogue: 0,0:38:41.06,0:38:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the suttas you find cases \Nwhere the Buddha says, Dialogue: 0,0:38:44.31,0:38:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I come out of a deep meditation, Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.86,0:38:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people come to visit me, I talk to \Nthem in a way that puts them off. Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.71,0:38:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that's what the Buddha says, Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.06,0:38:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually, he wants them to leave \Nas quickly as possible Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.56,0:39:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the happiness of solitude. Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.40,0:39:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's kind of the ultimate point of \Nthe idea of popularity and being famous. Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.51,0:39:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, it is a hassle. Dialogue: 0,0:39:07.79,0:39:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some other beautiful suttas\Nwhere the Buddha says, Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.64,0:39:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me never become famous. Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.01,0:39:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fame is kind of bad all the way down, \Nbecause it just leads to problems. Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.61,0:39:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happened? He became famous. Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.68,0:39:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how you become famous, \Nbecause you don't want to become famous. Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.03,0:39:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that is so counterintuitive. \NThat's kind of the thing about the Buddha. Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.10,0:39:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, again, understand that popularity \Nis not really all it is cracked up to be. Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.85,0:39:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how can we deal with a life? \Nand I mentioned this here the other week, Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.50,0:39:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was here last time. Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.12,0:39:45.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can we live a life ..\Nwe kind of are in solitude maybe, Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.13,0:39:47.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we become less dependent on\Npeople around us, Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.79,0:39:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't care about popularity so much, Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.25,0:39:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we know that in the present day \Nthere's a lot of loneliness in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.85,0:39:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During the pandemic it was quite bad. Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.15,0:40:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many young people being lonely \Napparently, Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.30,0:40:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,old people being lonely\Nsitting in an old age homes, Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.27,0:40:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not knowing what to do with themselves. Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.41,0:40:08.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the answer to that is very simple. Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.67,0:40:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer is we have to develop \Nmore metta, more kindness. Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.94,0:40:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because loneliness is a feeling of not\Nbeing connected. Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.75,0:40:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what loneliness is. Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.01,0:40:19.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're sitting by yourself; \Nthis small little world of mine, Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.93,0:40:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not connected to the world outside. Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.24,0:40:26.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the best way of being connected to \Nthe world is not by being popular. Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.100,0:40:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not by having large \Namounts of friends. Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.46,0:40:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because all of those things will \Neventually let you down. Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.52,0:40:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eventually, you are with people, Dialogue: 0,0:40:34.76,0:40:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes they say\Nthe wrong thing, Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.87,0:40:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're not kind to you or whatever. Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.60,0:40:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The best way of never being lonely \Nis to have metta, the kindness, Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.53,0:40:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the goodness, the love, compassion \Nin your heart. Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.45,0:40:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have that, you never feel lonely, \Nbecause you don't feel separated. Dialogue: 0,0:40:51.38,0:40:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea of love is the opposite \Nof being separated. Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.25,0:40:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You always feel connected \Nto the whole world, Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.86,0:41:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even when you sit in your little kuti, \Nyour little hut, all by yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.49,0:41:03.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So please do that. Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.25,0:41:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Practice that metta and you become \Nindependent, you become powerful, Dialogue: 0,0:41:07.38,0:41:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you gain the ability to just be \Ncompletely by yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.40,0:41:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that a beautiful idea? Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.88,0:41:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of depending on people \Nall the time, Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.01,0:41:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depending on relationships, \Ndepending on being popular or whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.38,0:41:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can actually hang out by yourself \Nand be completely content, Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.43,0:41:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually more content than when you \Nhangout with other people. Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.70,0:41:28.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So develop that kindness; \Nis what the Buddha is saying. Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.47,0:41:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It starts off by having metta, \Nkindness by body and speech, Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.96,0:41:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then kindness in thoughts, \Nthen kindness in meditation. Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.59,0:41:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It builds up, one upon the other, Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.98,0:41:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until you start to feel connected \Nwith the whole world around you. Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.66,0:41:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is where you want to go. Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.06,0:41:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you are popular in a really deep \Nsense of the word. Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.35,0:41:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what about the last four of these; Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.85,0:41:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the happiness and suffering and \Ngain and loss? Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.27,0:41:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe we can look at those together. Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.52,0:42:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, again, the way to think about \Ngain and loss, Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.35,0:42:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I really like, the idea of \Nkind of getting things in life, Dialogue: 0,0:42:05.92,0:42:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,material things or relationships, \Nor status or whatever it is. Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.25,0:42:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the beautiful similes \Nof the Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.58,0:42:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I always found very, very powerful; Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.42,0:42:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the idea, actually it is the idea \Nthat all of these things are borrowed. Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.29,0:42:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are borrowed things. Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.18,0:42:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have them for a time and\Nthen they will go. Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.67,0:42:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's one nice sutta which has been\Ntranslated as 'themes' into English. Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.26,0:42:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s five themes, five themes, \Nthat a monk or a nun; Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.72,0:42:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or actually a nun or a monk,\Nno, actually a lay woman and a lay man, Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.49,0:42:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a nun or a monk\Nor a monastic whatever. Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.71,0:42:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how it goes, \Na laywoman and a layman. Dialogue: 0,0:42:50.37,0:42:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I think it says one gone-forth,\NI don't think it says nun, Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.74,0:42:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think it says one gone forth,\Nshould reflect on, all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.91,0:43:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Abhiṇha means frequently. \NFive things, Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.42,0:43:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of those things,\Nthose five things; Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.45,0:43:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rest of the five, \Nthey would come another time Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.05,0:43:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that you will have a reason to come \Nback to the Buddhist center here. Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.56,0:43:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is just ... \NSo I will tell you one of them. Dialogue: 0,0:43:13.08,0:43:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of them is that Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.73,0:43:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'everything that is dear and beloved \Nto me must become otherwise, Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.68,0:43:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must become separated from me'. Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.42,0:43:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything that is dear and beloved to me \Nmust become otherwise, Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.95,0:43:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must become separated from me. Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.12,0:43:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very powerful saying. Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.05,0:43:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it that is dear and \Nbeloved to you? Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.32,0:43:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are the things in your life that\Nwould be most difficult to lose? Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.42,0:43:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, of course, one of them very often \Nis like our closest relationships. Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.57,0:43:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have a good relationship with your\Nboyfriend, or girlfriend Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.44,0:43:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or your husband and wife, \Nif that relationship is really good, Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.40,0:43:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then of course, it also means\Nvery strong kind of bonding very often. Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.60,0:43:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And therefore the consequences \Ndown the track are often also Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.45,0:44:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be quite difficult to deal with. Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.42,0:44:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what are the things that you are\Nafraid to lose? Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.62,0:44:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at that. And then when you look at\Nthat, and you understand Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.15,0:44:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the problem that arises from\Nthat, you actually... Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.38,0:44:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the way to do that is to have this \Nidea of the idea of the borrowed goods. Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.18,0:44:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea of how all of these things \Nnow in our lives are actually borrowed. Dialogue: 0,0:44:19.79,0:44:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I only have it for a time. Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.48,0:44:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my beautiful relationship \Nwith this woman or this man Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.28,0:44:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or this daughter or son or this mother \Nand father, this friend or whatever it is. Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.05,0:44:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a wonderful relationship, \Nbut it's a borrowed relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.87,0:44:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will only last for so long, \Nand then it will be gone. Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.15,0:44:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we treat \Nborrowed things in the world? Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.65,0:44:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Borrowed things, you think\Nabout them in a different way, right? Dialogue: 0,0:44:45.14,0:44:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you borrow a car, you rent a car \Ncompared to actually buying one, Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.36,0:44:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a different feeling. Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.80,0:44:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You treat a rented car different from\None that...I was going to say 'is yours' Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.30,0:44:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but 'you think is your own' \Nis a much better way of putting it. Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.82,0:45:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You treat it differently. Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.18,0:45:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all the things in that world that we \Nactually are borrowed, Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.52,0:45:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once you start to look at it like that, Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.73,0:45:09.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your relationship to those things \Nis different. Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.37,0:45:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't hold on so much anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.78,0:45:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look at it in a different way. Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.40,0:45:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You realize you're going to have to find \Na deeper satisfaction and happiness Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.65,0:45:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere else, Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.18,0:45:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because those borrowed goods are \Ninherently unreliable. Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.13,0:45:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The things in your life, \Nyour house, your car, everything you own, Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.59,0:45:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your career, your status in this world, Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.20,0:45:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the people that are\Nclosest to you, Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.48,0:45:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of those things are ultimately \Nborrowed goods. Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.58,0:45:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And once you start to see that, Dialogue: 0,0:45:36.67,0:45:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you start to treat these \Nthings in a different way. Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.13,0:45:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start to look for real meaning, \Ncompleteness, satisfaction, contentment, Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.84,0:45:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere else in life. Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.72,0:45:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start to lean towards the\Nspiritual path. Dialogue: 0,0:45:48.45,0:45:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, the power of the \Nspiritual path is that Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.30,0:45:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of those things that are \Nborrowed goods, Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.45,0:45:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they become more meaningful as well,\Nas you practice a spiritual path, Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.35,0:46:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're able to treat them \Nmore from a spiritual point of view. Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.28,0:46:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It makes them more meaningful. Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.19,0:46:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It makes the relationships better \Nactually down the track. Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.39,0:46:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It makes your ability even to enjoy the \Nworldly goods around you Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.80,0:46:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more wholesome, more pure, and \Ntherefore better as a consequence. Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.98,0:46:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the paradox of the \Nspiritual path. Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.99,0:46:21.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks like I'm saying all of these \Nnegative things Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.82,0:46:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about all the things in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.65,0:46:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually, if you practice the \Nspiritual path in the right way, Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.12,0:46:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things of the world actually\Nbecome more meaningful. Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.59,0:46:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They start to take on a new lease of\Nlife, so to speak, Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.42,0:46:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they actually start to be able to use\Nthem in a proper way, Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.68,0:46:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a way that does not lead to just problems\Ndown the track. Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.42,0:46:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you start living with kindness. Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.62,0:46:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start living a life where you really \Ncare for the people around you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.77,0:46:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You try to say good things, \Nkinds things, gentle things, Dialogue: 0,0:46:52.07,0:46:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that unify people,\Nthings that are meaningful, purposeful, Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.12,0:46:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually go somewhere. Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.45,0:47:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start to treat people with \Ncompassion and understanding. Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.47,0:47:02.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you have an opportunity, Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.93,0:47:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you always do an act of kindness\Naround you. Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.35,0:47:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I must admit that I'm very impressed \Nwith our president, Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.47,0:47:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm part of the Committee of this \NBuddhist Society, I get all the emails Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.92,0:47:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being sent by the committee\Nmembers. Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.77,0:47:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he's really good with his \Nwords and his emails, Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.30,0:47:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always think, wow, I should \Nkind of up my game a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.33,0:47:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be as good as Hock Chin. Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.67,0:47:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very nice emails. Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.30,0:47:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you get an email from Hock Chin… Dialogue: 0,0:47:26.96,0:47:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask him, please send me an email\Nbecause it's gonna make your day. Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.09,0:47:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sorry, Hock Chin.... (Ajahn laughs), Dialogue: 0,0:47:33.17,0:47:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm being naughty now. Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.64,0:47:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We start to think in the right way \Nabout how to use speech, Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.20,0:47:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to use emails; all of these things \Nin a positive way, Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.20,0:47:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give other people a gift. Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.94,0:47:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really like this idea, how speech can \Ngive gifts to people all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.97,0:47:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we use speech wisely, Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.79,0:47:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying something nice, \Nsaying something gentle, Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.84,0:47:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that goes to the \Nheart of other people, Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.49,0:47:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's something beautiful about that. Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.39,0:48:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So often we speak, \Nwe have that opportunity. Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.19,0:48:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that desire to speak gently is not \Nthere, hold back, don't speak now. Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.61,0:48:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wait till desire actually arises. Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.69,0:48:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is how, gradually,\Nthings start to change. Dialogue: 0,0:48:13.70,0:48:15.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things start to become meaningful. Dialogue: 0,0:48:15.57,0:48:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start to think about the world\Nin a new way. Dialogue: 0,0:48:17.88,0:48:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start to think about people \Nin a new way, Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.03,0:48:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More compassion because you understand \Nwe're all trapped Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.70,0:48:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this suffering together.\NEveryone is there. Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.38,0:48:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's no wonder people do bad things, Dialogue: 0,0:48:27.59,0:48:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they have so much suffering\Nin their life.. Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.82,0:48:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course they do bad things. Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.24,0:48:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come here, I'll give you a hug. \NNot me, someone else. Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.06,0:48:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't usually hug people. Dialogue: 0,0:48:36.15,0:48:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, really, I hug my mother, \Nthat's about it. Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.86,0:48:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we do the right thing in this way. \NThinking about the world in the right way. Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.30,0:48:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we do that, this is what it means \Nto paddle against that stream. Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.35,0:48:50.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember the stream in the beginning, Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.17,0:48:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leading to the saltwater crocodiles \Nright? Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.61,0:48:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we're paddling away from the \Nsaltwater crocodiles. Dialogue: 0,0:48:55.72,0:48:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The saltwater crocodiles are fading away \Nin the rear mirror. Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.31,0:49:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure if the rafts have mirrors\Nthese days, Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.05,0:49:05.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if it has a mirror, they're kind of \Nfading away in the rear mirror. Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.49,0:49:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Ajahn making a gesture of relief)\NPhew! Saltwater crocodiles. Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.33,0:49:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m getting close, that was \Nlike a close call. Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.53,0:49:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But anyway, so you have just made it. \NAnd you paddle against the stream. Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.01,0:49:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as you paddle against the stream, \Nthe current becomes weaker. Dialogue: 0,0:49:18.24,0:49:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The current becomes\Nweaker and weaker and weaker Dialogue: 0,0:49:21.25,0:49:24.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you paddle against it...\Nbecause you are reducing your defilements. Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.84,0:49:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're becoming more kind, Dialogue: 0,0:49:26.32,0:49:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the craving, the anger, the normal habits \Nof your mind are weakening as you do this. Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.80,0:49:34.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if you have seen this \Nin your life, Dialogue: 0,0:49:34.09,0:49:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have lived a spiritual life \Nfor a long time, Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.51,0:49:38.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I've seen it very clearly \Nin my own life, Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.89,0:49:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how these things weaken over time, Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.04,0:49:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually you become a\Nmore good-hearted person over time, Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.12,0:49:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gradually, gradually developing. Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.14,0:49:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then eventually there comes a day, Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.62,0:49:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when eventually you are so pure, \Nit's almost no effort at all Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.48,0:49:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to paddle that raft anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.57,0:49:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And suddenly one day, you have a\Ndeep meditation, a deep insight Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.98,0:50:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the nature of reality. \NAnd boom! you enter a new stream, Dialogue: 0,0:50:03.02,0:50:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going in exactly the opposite\Ndirection, going towards, not a Dialogue: 0,0:50:07.02,0:50:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whirlpool, not a shark, not a\Nmonster, not a saltwater crocodile, Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.31,0:50:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not even a freshwater crocodile; Dialogue: 0,0:50:14.52,0:50:18.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but going towards all the good things \Nthat you ever wanted in life. Dialogue: 0,0:50:18.29,0:50:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you always were looking for,\Nyou've entered the stream of the Dhamma, Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.81,0:50:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moving in the right direction.\NAnd now there is no turning back. Dialogue: 0,0:50:26.77,0:50:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's only one goal for you, \Nand that is Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.77,0:50:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the highest happiness of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.22,0:50:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is where, that right stream,\Nthe stream of the Dharma Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.72,0:50:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as opposed to the stream \Nof defilements, Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.70,0:50:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stream that we're normally in, \Nthat is where it's heading for you. Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.05,0:50:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All you have to do is hang out \Non the path, Dialogue: 0,0:50:44.92,0:50:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listen to the beautiful word of the Buddha\Nagain, and again and again, Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.94,0:50:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and gradually make this change. Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.35,0:50:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day, you too may enter that stream, \Nheading for happiness all the way. Dialogue: 0,0:50:57.32,0:51:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, that's the talk for this evening, \Nthank you. Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.74,0:51:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.19,0:51:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, everyone, so are there any\Nquestions? Yes, please, Mr. President, Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.31,0:51:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. So for the New Year, \Nthey set goals, Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.87,0:51:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can be financial, or whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:51:24.24,0:51:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so what is your advice\Nfrom spiritual point of view? Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.72,0:51:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What goal we should have? \NYes, that is a very, very good point, Dialogue: 0,0:51:33.72,0:51:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should have talked about New\NYear's resolutions tonight. Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.44,0:51:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a missed opportunity. Dialogue: 0,0:51:37.88,0:51:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should have talked about that; \Nbut now I have the chance, Dialogue: 0,0:51:40.69,0:51:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you've asked this question. Dialogue: 0,0:51:42.55,0:51:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what should be our \NNew Year's resolution? Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.20,0:51:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What should be our goals as Buddhists? Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.65,0:51:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And increasing your bank account; \NI wouldn't recommend that one. Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.68,0:51:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not really a Buddhist kind of way. Dialogue: 0,0:51:53.77,0:51:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's fine if your bank\Naccount increase, Dialogue: 0,0:51:56.03,0:51:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that shouldn't be a goal as such. Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.38,0:52:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think, there can be many \Nkinds of goals, Dialogue: 0,0:52:03.10,0:52:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think one of the important things \Nwhen we have a resolution Dialogue: 0,0:52:06.23,0:52:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to make it not too arduous, \Nso we're actually able to fulfill it. Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.16,0:52:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, one of the things that \Nwe see every year Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.46,0:52:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people take up these resolutions, \Nis that they fail. Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.18,0:52:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As soon as they start, they can; \Nbut after a week or two, Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.91,0:52:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too difficult, can't do it. Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.48,0:52:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you're going to do a resolution \Nlike meditation for example, Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.53,0:52:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start really low, put the bar as low \Nas you can; Dialogue: 0,0:52:27.67,0:52:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,five minutes a week, right?\NEveryone can do five minutes a week. Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.83,0:52:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you can't do that, okay, give up. Dialogue: 0,0:52:34.70,0:52:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the thing is that \Nif you start low, Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.46,0:52:41.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have success and you enjoy it, \Nit will encourage you, right? Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.100,0:52:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you will, of course, \Nit's very easy to up that. Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.95,0:52:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you can do five minutes \Ntwice a week. Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.28,0:52:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And eventually we do 10 minutes \Nevery day maybe, Dialogue: 0,0:52:49.58,0:52:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can build up in that way. Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.68,0:52:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So put the bar very low; Dialogue: 0,0:52:53.18,0:52:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's kind of the obvious thing,\NI think for New Year’s resolutions. Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.80,0:53:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the most important thing \Non the spiritual path, Dialogue: 0,0:53:02.56,0:53:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the thing that kind of \Nundergirds everything else. Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.55,0:53:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, there's many different ways \Nof looking at this; Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.33,0:53:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the most important thing in the \Nspiritual practice is always kindness. Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.50,0:53:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the ability to live with kindness\Nmoment to moment, Dialogue: 0,0:53:17.92,0:53:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day in day out, year in year out, Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.28,0:53:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is what is going to make this\Npath really progresses. Dialogue: 0,0:53:23.38,0:53:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always surprised when I read the\Nsuttas, how everything Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.18,0:53:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is kind of founded on kindness. Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.50,0:53:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meditation is, according to the suttas, \Nan automatic process. Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.20,0:53:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you may wonder, how can that \Npossibly be, you may wonder, Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.12,0:53:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you sit down and \Nthe mind is always... Dialogue: 0,0:53:38.32,0:53:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not an automatic process at all, \Nit's not going anywhere very often. Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.58,0:53:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the reason why it isn't \Ngoing anywhere Dialogue: 0,0:53:43.80,0:53:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because the sīla, the virtue, \Nthe kindness is not profound enough yet. Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.97,0:53:49.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the reason. Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.45,0:53:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of the most important \Nthings in life Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.60,0:53:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for anyone who's really serious \Nabout this practice, Dialogue: 0,0:53:54.08,0:53:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to put a lot of emphasis \Ninto the idea of kindness, Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.75,0:54:02.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment to moment,\Nverbal, bodily and mental. Dialogue: 0,0:54:02.47,0:54:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As soon as you see that\Nyou get a negative thought about someone, Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.61,0:54:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask, 'How can I think about this person \Ndifferently?' Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.14,0:54:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can I see them with compassion? Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.82,0:54:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can I see their good qualities? Dialogue: 0,0:54:11.80,0:54:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is what you should,\Nthat is to me, the most important one. Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.02,0:54:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Get that right, \Neverything flows from there. Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.34,0:54:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyone else like to say anything here? Dialogue: 0,0:54:24.52,0:54:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe this lady in front here,\Nfirst of all. Dialogue: 0,0:54:28.37,0:54:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This lady in the middle, I think, \Nin the center of the universe. Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.98,0:54:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(not audible) Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.22,0:54:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for the talk Dialogue: 0,0:54:49.68,0:54:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you're talking about the stream, Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.77,0:54:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it almost like a metaphor for\Nthe links of dependent origination? Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.43,0:55:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dependent Origination.. yeah, \NI would say it is that as well, Dialogue: 0,0:55:03.12,0:55:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that kind of shows you \Nhow the stream works. Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.25,0:55:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there are feelings, \Nbecause we feel the world we crave. Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.58,0:55:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we crave the world \Nwe pick things up, all kinds of things Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.02,0:55:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metaphorically and literally. Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.87,0:55:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because of that, we make kamma. Dialogue: 0,0:55:19.97,0:55:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we relate to the things that we\Npick up we make kamma, Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.28,0:55:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through that making of kamma we are reborn\Naccording to that kamma and craving. Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.10,0:55:31.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So indeed, it is very closely related \Nto the idea of a stream; absolutely! Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.63,0:55:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, well done. You have passed; \NI was going to say 101, Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.87,0:55:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this is like 104 maybe. Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.44,0:55:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Ajahn laughs) \NThat's good. Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.02,0:55:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Me again Ajahn Brahmali, \NA very interesting talk. Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.24,0:55:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, good. Dialogue: 0,0:55:51.77,0:55:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ajahn Brahmali, when you\Ntalk about streaming, Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.34,0:55:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you mentioned about the craving and\Nthe eight winds, Dialogue: 0,0:55:59.12,0:56:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that streaming related to the \Nstream entrance? Dialogue: 0,0:56:03.15,0:56:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes it is, exactly. Sotāpanna \N'Sotā' is a stream; āpanna means attain; Dialogue: 0,0:56:11.21,0:56:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one who has attained the stream. Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.98,0:56:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So once you become a stream-enter, Dialogue: 0,0:56:14.76,0:56:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is when you go the \Nstream of the dhamma; Dhamma sotā Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.61,0:56:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you head to awakening, \Nyou are heading to Nibbana, Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.20,0:56:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether you want to or not. Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.88,0:56:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm sure you will want to, \Nso you'll be fine. Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.06,0:56:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What came to my mind when talking \Nabout streaming, Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.44,0:56:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking of the Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.30,0:56:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buddha was telling us \Nwe can read his teachings; Dialogue: 0,0:56:33.26,0:56:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can hear his teaching, \Nbut that's not enough. Dialogue: 0,0:56:37.76,0:56:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He asked us to interact \Nwith his teachings. Dialogue: 0,0:56:41.77,0:56:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the interaction is that streaming \Nisn't t? Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.42,0:56:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Interact with the teachings. Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.44,0:56:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our mind, our feelings, all these things\Nthat you mentioned about... Dialogue: 0,0:56:52.08,0:56:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see what I mean? Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.29,0:56:55.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes you can interact.. Dialogue: 0,0:56:55.37,0:56:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I would just.... Dialogue: 0,0:56:57.74,0:57:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say that interaction to me \Nis just the idea of doing the teachings, Dialogue: 0,0:57:02.64,0:57:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of following the teachings. \NThat's what I would call that. Dialogue: 0,0:57:06.76,0:57:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can call it interaction \Nin one way. Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.84,0:57:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the ways of interacting is to gain\Nsome joy out of the fact Dialogue: 0,0:57:13.10,0:57:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you have the Buddha as your teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.47,0:57:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't fully understand \Nwho the Buddha is. Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.19,0:57:20.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we really understood \Nwho the Buddha was, Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.27,0:57:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would have such incredible joy \Nthat we have such a teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.29,0:57:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it is an extraordinary thing to \Nhave someone like a Buddha in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:57:27.94,0:57:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is to me, interaction, \Nbecause then you're literally feeding off Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.72,0:57:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fact that you have the Buddha\Nand the Dhamma as your teachings. Dialogue: 0,0:57:37.60,0:57:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason why I asked is I also \Ntrying to link what you said..streaming... Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.09,0:57:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An Interesting talk, Thank you Dialogue: 0,0:57:44.74,0:57:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Excellent Eddy. Thank you. \NAnyone else? No one else? Dialogue: 0,0:57:50.71,0:57:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone is quiet. Okay. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.61,0:57:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's take a few from overseas. Dialogue: 0,0:57:58.65,0:58:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have a question from Gloria Wong. Dialogue: 0,0:58:01.96,0:58:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People always say that the Buddha is kind Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.12,0:58:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I can't feel his kindness \Nin the suttas. Why is that? Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.76,0:58:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I think sometimes you can, sometimes\Nyou can see the kindness in the suttas. Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.24,0:58:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some very touching suttas \Nwith the Buddha, Dialogue: 0,0:58:21.11,0:58:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of them is where the Buddha\Nfinds a monk with dysentery. Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.26,0:58:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dysentery is a very filthy\Nillness, Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.54,0:58:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything kind of comes out of \Nyour body. Dialogue: 0,0:58:29.79,0:58:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Buddha together with\NVenerable Ananda, Dialogue: 0,0:58:32.15,0:58:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they clean up this monk,\Nyeah, it's kind of a very powerful sutta. Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.44,0:58:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you do see that kindness sometimes. Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.84,0:58:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think a problem with the suttas\Nis that the suttas are really just ... Dialogue: 0,0:58:42.52,0:58:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remember they are like \Ndistilled essence of the Dhamma. Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.51,0:58:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These have been refined over \Nmany, many centuries. Dialogue: 0,0:58:50.09,0:58:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the beginning, the word of the Buddha \Nwas what they had, Dialogue: 0,0:58:53.97,0:58:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it was refined and systematized \Nto some extent, Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.96,0:58:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we have the\Nsuttas coming from that. Dialogue: 0,0:58:59.72,0:59:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have taken away so much of\Nthe human element in the suttas, Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.05,0:59:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has become like a kind of prose, Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.82,0:59:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the teachings of the Buddha on \Nhow to practice the path. Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.24,0:59:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's very little kind of emotion and \Nhuman interaction in the suttas. Dialogue: 0,0:59:15.87,0:59:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, sometimes there is and sometimes you\Ncan see that coming through, Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.44,0:59:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but very often there is not. Dialogue: 0,0:59:21.12,0:59:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they can often seem a bit dry. Dialogue: 0,0:59:23.12,0:59:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you look carefully, I think you \Nwill see the Buddha, the human being, Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.66,0:59:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Buddha underneath the surface, Dialogue: 0,0:59:29.73,0:59:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think you're able to see a lot\Nof kindness and compassion there, Dialogue: 0,0:59:33.05,0:59:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you look at the suttas in the \Nright way. Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.71,0:59:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember all the teachings of the suttas \Nare an expression of that kindness really, Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.21,0:59:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the Buddha is showing \Npeople the path to the highest happiness. Dialogue: 0,0:59:45.52,0:59:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What more can you give anyone \Nin the world Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.62,0:59:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than the highest happiness?\NIt's the highest gift, right? . Dialogue: 0,0:59:50.38,0:59:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't give anyone a higher gift \Nthan the highest happiness. Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.92,0:59:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is what every sutta is about,\Nthat gift of the highest happiness. Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.97,1:00:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And once you see that, \Nyou will see every sutta actually is Dialogue: 0,1:00:01.67,1:00:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through and through kindness. Dialogue: 0,1:00:05.02,1:00:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, another one from someone\Ncalled Ne Torre mo JD Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.79,1:00:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's an interesting name. \NOkay, hello.... Dialogue: 0,1:00:15.20,1:00:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So anyway, your question is \Nhow to deal with negative cravings? Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.17,1:00:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any concrete practices needed to accept \Nand have positive thoughts of it? Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.97,1:00:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often cravings bring \Nsatisfaction and happiness. Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.57,1:00:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not sure what you mean by \Nnegative cravings. Dialogue: 0,1:00:32.37,1:00:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you mean cravings to do bad stuff? Dialogue: 0,1:00:34.90,1:00:38.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or do you mean ... what exactly do you \Nmean by negative cravings? Dialogue: 0,1:00:38.49,1:00:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think one of the, Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.22,1:00:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like so many things on the \NBuddhist path; Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.36,1:00:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it really is negative, \Nand if it is bad kamma, Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.06,1:00:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then of course you just have to\Nrestrain yourself Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.41,1:00:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to see the danger \Nin going there Dialogue: 0,1:00:57.17,1:00:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and look towards the positive things, Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.37,1:01:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like with so many other things.\NKeep the five precepts, Dialogue: 0,1:01:02.19,1:01:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if you don't keep the \Nfive precepts, you're gonna break them. Dialogue: 0,1:01:05.67,1:01:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like your determination to keep them\Nbasically, Dialogue: 0,1:01:08.29,1:01:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what I would call \Na negative craving. Dialogue: 0,1:01:10.67,1:01:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you want to kill someone, please \Ndon't kill anyone, because bad idea. Dialogue: 0,1:01:14.92,1:01:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And try to go even further than that, Dialogue: 0,1:01:17.04,1:01:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's not enough, \Njust not to kill anyone, Dialogue: 0,1:01:19.47,1:01:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not going to get you \Nall that far. Dialogue: 0,1:01:21.50,1:01:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Try to take it further. Dialogue: 0,1:01:22.71,1:01:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So first of all, try to kind of \Nrestrain those negative things. Dialogue: 0,1:01:32.22,1:01:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't follow them, \Nknow that they are bad. Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.64,1:01:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you see them in your mind, \Njust leave them in your mind, Dialogue: 0,1:01:37.47,1:01:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but don't follow those things.\NThat's the first thing. Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.37,1:01:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second thing is not to judge yourself. Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.86,1:01:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because very often, when we say we don't\Nwant to go there, Dialogue: 0,1:01:45.61,1:01:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we judge ourselves very harshly. Dialogue: 0,1:01:47.35,1:01:49.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I shouldn't think like this, \NI shouldn't do that. Dialogue: 0,1:01:49.100,1:01:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But please don't do that. Dialogue: 0,1:01:51.89,1:01:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you, every one of us, Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.82,1:01:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are the sum of the conditioning that \Nhas worked on us Dialogue: 0,1:01:58.86,1:02:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for innumerable lifetimes. Dialogue: 0,1:02:00.69,1:02:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are built up to be like this. Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.82,1:02:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because we have become like this, \Nwe can't really help those things. Dialogue: 0,1:02:06.46,1:02:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are there. They're part of\Nwhat has actually come to be Dialogue: 0,1:02:09.26,1:02:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through all these conditioning processes. Dialogue: 0,1:02:11.35,1:02:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So don't judge yourself. \NInstead be kind to yourself, Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.38,1:02:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you are the\Nvictim of those cravings. Dialogue: 0,1:02:17.37,1:02:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are the victim of those bad habits. \NFar better to see yourself as a victim. Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.15,1:02:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not anyone else who is \Nthe perpetrator, Dialogue: 0,1:02:25.78,1:02:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is no perpetrator, \Nbut you are still the victim. Dialogue: 0,1:02:28.62,1:02:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we are all a bit like that. Dialogue: 0,1:02:30.35,1:02:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And once you understand that you \Nare the victim of these things, Dialogue: 0,1:02:33.52,1:02:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you start to think \N"Well, what is the way out"? Dialogue: 0,1:02:36.30,1:02:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you can look at it neutrally. Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.29,1:02:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't react in a negative way, which \Ndestroys the ability for having insight. Dialogue: 0,1:02:42.97,1:02:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead you become neutral, Dialogue: 0,1:02:44.30,1:02:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you say, let me look at\Nthis thing carefully with mindfulness Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.12,1:02:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see what the cause is, \Nwhat the problem is, Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.62,1:02:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then when I understand that,\Nthen I can start to shift direction, Dialogue: 0,1:02:53.89,1:02:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can start to understand, why is it \Nthat I have these negative cravings? Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.13,1:03:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is driving this process? Dialogue: 0,1:03:00.04,1:03:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe it's just foolishness. Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.82,1:03:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one day it will just switch off \Nlike that (Ajahn snaps his fingers), Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.27,1:03:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you have understood the problem. Dialogue: 0,1:03:09.19,1:03:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often cravings bring satisfaction \Nand happiness, Dialogue: 0,1:03:11.93,1:03:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, often they do bring satisfaction \Nand happiness, Dialogue: 0,1:03:15.23,1:03:19.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is part of the problem.\NBecause this is why we follow them, right? Dialogue: 0,1:03:19.80,1:03:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have to remember the downside. Dialogue: 0,1:03:22.18,1:03:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's only when you remember the downside \Nthat you can steer in the right direction. Dialogue: 0,1:03:26.57,1:03:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Buddha talks about this \Nin the suttas, Dialogue: 0,1:03:29.06,1:03:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he talks about the benefit of something, \Nthe downside or something Dialogue: 0,1:03:32.28,1:03:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the escape. Dialogue: 0,1:03:34.02,1:03:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asadha, adhinava, nissarana; Dialogue: 0,1:03:36.51,1:03:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three factors that he talks about \Neverywhere in the suttas. Dialogue: 0,1:03:39.35,1:03:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the downside is always greater \Nthan the upside. Dialogue: 0,1:03:42.87,1:03:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why we have all those \Nsaltwater crocodiles. Dialogue: 0,1:03:45.66,1:03:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love the saltwater crocodiles. \NDon't you think they're pretty cool? Dialogue: 0,1:03:48.96,1:03:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really find that really cool. Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.56,1:03:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you have to be Australian to\Nunderstand that. Dialogue: 0,1:03:53.44,1:03:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Australian enough to\Nunderstand the meaning of that. Dialogue: 0,1:03:56.80,1:04:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm really kind of proud of that. \NSo I thought that was really cool. Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.34,1:04:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, anyway. Next one. Dialogue: 0,1:04:02.74,1:04:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is someone who calls themselves \NVegan Kind; Vegan Kind, okay. Dialogue: 0,1:04:09.14,1:04:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that your real name or kind of your \Npen name, so to speak? Anyway.. Dialogue: 0,1:04:14.70,1:04:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question--when I create, I suffer \Nas a result of identification with it, Dialogue: 0,1:04:21.07,1:04:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and attachment to it; \Nthe final result of a project? Dialogue: 0,1:04:24.65,1:04:29.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can I think about things more \Nwisely in this respect? Dialogue: 0,1:04:29.89,1:04:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a very good question. Dialogue: 0,1:04:32.35,1:04:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you identify with things and you\Ncreate things then you Dialogue: 0,1:04:36.16,1:04:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of have a problem down the track. Dialogue: 0,1:04:40.80,1:04:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what you have to do is that \Nyou have to do things Dialogue: 0,1:04:46.19,1:04:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not because you want to build something, \Nbut because you want to live well. Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.72,1:04:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whenever you do something, do it\Nbecause you want to be kind to the world; Dialogue: 0,1:04:58.28,1:05:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you want to leave something for \Nsomeone else Dialogue: 0,1:05:00.82,1:05:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of generosity or kindness. Dialogue: 0,1:05:02.65,1:05:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why you should do things\Nin this life. Dialogue: 0,1:05:04.82,1:05:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not because it is something \Nnecessarily for you. Dialogue: 0,1:05:08.32,1:05:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the best example for me of this, \Nthis is in a little book called Dialogue: 0,1:05:12.35,1:05:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Karuna Virus \Nwhich we have published in Dialogue: 0,1:05:16.39,1:05:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connection with the corona pandemic\Nand has stories about Ajahn Brahm, Dialogue: 0,1:05:19.94,1:05:22.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the stories in there about \NAjahn Brahm, Dialogue: 0,1:05:22.38,1:05:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which maybe not that many people \Nhad heard until that book came out. Dialogue: 0,1:05:25.84,1:05:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a story of the fire that we had \Nat Bodhinyana Monastery in 1991. Dialogue: 0,1:05:30.97,1:05:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By 1991, Ajahn Brahm had worked on that \Nmonastery day and night, Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.44,1:05:40.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ajahn Brahm was, he still is, \Nan incredibly hard worker. Dialogue: 0,1:05:40.67,1:05:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in those days, even more hard working, Dialogue: 0,1:05:42.79,1:05:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because his stomach wasn't\Nin the way for all the hard work, Dialogue: 0,1:05:45.67,1:05:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it was easier for him\Nto kind of work properly. Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.39,1:05:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he worked really, really hard. Dialogue: 0,1:05:50.50,1:05:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also he is very intelligent, \Nhe picks up things very fast Dialogue: 0,1:05:53.84,1:05:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of his, whatever it is \Nbackground, or kamma or whatever. Dialogue: 0,1:05:57.28,1:06:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he built up this monastery,\Nworked seven days a week, sometimes Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.30,1:06:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having flood lights to be able to see at \Nnight, and all these kinds of things. Dialogue: 0,1:06:06.17,1:06:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, Main Hall, Dana Sala, \Nand this was his life's work. Dialogue: 0,1:06:11.37,1:06:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eight years of work in this monastery. Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.28,1:06:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then comes the fire. Dialogue: 0,1:06:16.22,1:06:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fire comes.. this is like the\Nbiggest bushfire.. Dialogue: 0,1:06:18.51,1:06:24.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That day was the hottest day so far in \NPerth area, 46 point something degrees, Dialogue: 0,1:06:24.43,1:06:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,super, super hot and the fire comes. Dialogue: 0,1:06:27.24,1:06:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course when a fire comes \Nwith that heat, in Western Australia, Dialogue: 0,1:06:30.93,1:06:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the middle of summer, \Nthat was the 30th of January. Dialogue: 0,1:06:33.50,1:06:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the middle of summer, everything is \Nkind of dry as bones. Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.37,1:06:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And really, really bad. Dialogue: 0,1:06:39.33,1:06:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, everyone says \Neverything is gonna go, Dialogue: 0,1:06:41.91,1:06:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is it. Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.91,1:06:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything is going to be kind of gone. Dialogue: 0,1:06:45.90,1:06:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course most people, if your\Nlife's work is going to be gone. Dialogue: 0,1:06:50.57,1:06:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you spent eight years or\Nsomething, working day and night Dialogue: 0,1:06:54.14,1:06:58.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build something, if that is\Ngonna go, you feel a sense of despair. Dialogue: 0,1:06:58.44,1:07:01.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, no, this is terrible. \NWhat am I going to do? Dialogue: 0,1:07:01.57,1:07:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you kind of go crazy, \Nmaybe you cry, maybe you shout, Dialogue: 0,1:07:04.94,1:07:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe you do bad things as\Na consequence. Dialogue: 0,1:07:08.31,1:07:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People do bad things when these things\Nhappen. Dialogue: 0,1:07:10.75,1:07:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, what happened with Ajahn Brahm \Nwas kind of really fascinating. Dialogue: 0,1:07:15.84,1:07:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what he told me personally. Dialogue: 0,1:07:18.21,1:07:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course he might deny \Nthat is exactly what he said; Dialogue: 0,1:07:20.74,1:07:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this is how I remember it anyway. Dialogue: 0,1:07:23.42,1:07:28.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What he said was ‘at that moment,\Nwhen I realized what was going on, Dialogue: 0,1:07:28.39,1:07:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was able to let it go, just like that.\N(Ajahn snaps his fingers) Dialogue: 0,1:07:30.99,1:07:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I eventually got out of the \Nmonastery to a safe place, Dialogue: 0,1:07:34.74,1:07:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew that if the monastery would \Nburn down completely Dialogue: 0,1:07:38.54,1:07:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be gone on the following day, Dialogue: 0,1:07:40.47,1:07:43.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would just go back and start\Nfrom square one. Dialogue: 0,1:07:43.81,1:07:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said the reason is, Dialogue: 0,1:07:45.51,1:07:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘because I didn't build the monastery \Nto create a monastery, Dialogue: 0,1:07:48.76,1:07:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I built the monastery to create \Nsomething good in the world, Dialogue: 0,1:07:52.08,1:07:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of generosity, out of kindness \Nfor future generations, Dialogue: 0,1:07:55.20,1:07:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build up Buddhism in \NWestern Australia. Dialogue: 0,1:07:57.45,1:07:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was an act of kindness. Dialogue: 0,1:07:59.09,1:08:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The result in terms of bricks and mortar \Nwas not important. Dialogue: 0,1:08:03.05,1:08:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was important was the \Nact of kindness. Dialogue: 0,1:08:05.28,1:08:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that act of kindness could always\Nbe carried on, on the following day. Dialogue: 0,1:08:10.22,1:08:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the kind of attitude, right? Dialogue: 0,1:08:13.32,1:08:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're doing things not because they \Nmean anything in the material realm. Dialogue: 0,1:08:18.42,1:08:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You do things because they mean \Nsomething in the spiritual realm. Dialogue: 0,1:08:21.92,1:08:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are acts of kindness, \Nact of generosity, Dialogue: 0,1:08:24.49,1:08:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acts of purity of the heart. Dialogue: 0,1:08:26.42,1:08:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you can never go wrong, \Nthen you never lose out. Dialogue: 0,1:08:29.97,1:08:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you can use a little bit of that \Nkind of attitude in your creative work, Dialogue: 0,1:08:34.67,1:08:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I think you will gradually \Nmove in a good direction, Dialogue: 0,1:08:38.28,1:08:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you won't attach quite so much \Nperhaps. So best of luck. Dialogue: 0,1:08:42.96,1:08:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A couple of more quick questions. Dialogue: 0,1:08:46.82,1:08:48.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next one is from YC Tan. Dialogue: 0,1:08:48.55,1:08:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dear Ajahn, how do we help siblings\Nand parents who live together, Dialogue: 0,1:08:53.58,1:08:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but constantly quarrel over\Nmaterial things? Dialogue: 0,1:08:57.75,1:09:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We encourage kindness, prayer, \Nvolunteering, etc. But nothing is working. Dialogue: 0,1:09:07.18,1:09:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a standard question \NI get so often. Dialogue: 0,1:09:10.81,1:09:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we change other people? \NThat's kind of the question. Dialogue: 0,1:09:13.66,1:09:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we change other people? Dialogue: 0,1:09:15.46,1:09:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's kind of always the question. Dialogue: 0,1:09:17.51,1:09:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then, the best way to change others, \Nof course is to change yourself. Dialogue: 0,1:09:21.74,1:09:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are the one, the only person\Nyou can really change in the world. Dialogue: 0,1:09:27.04,1:09:30.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is kind of one of the harsh\Nrealities of life, Dialogue: 0,1:09:30.51,1:09:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that our ability even to change\Nourselves is so difficult, right? Dialogue: 0,1:09:35.68,1:09:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you try to change, try\Nto be more kind, try to be less whatever, Dialogue: 0,1:09:40.01,1:09:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually it's very hard. Dialogue: 0,1:09:42.27,1:09:44.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I say to you 'be less angry',\N'OK!' Dialogue: 0,1:09:44.73,1:09:47.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It takes time. \NIt's difficult to do that.' Dialogue: 0,1:09:47.83,1:09:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so even though it is so hard\Nto change ourselves, Dialogue: 0,1:09:51.06,1:09:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we demand that other people change. Dialogue: 0,1:09:53.21,1:09:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But remember that they are in deep ruts, Dialogue: 0,1:09:56.02,1:09:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are in deep habits.\NIt is difficult for them to change too. Dialogue: 0,1:09:59.38,1:10:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they are used to arguing \Nwith each other, Dialogue: 0,1:10:01.54,1:10:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they probably enjoy that argument\Nto some extent. Dialogue: 0,1:10:04.16,1:10:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how people are. We enjoy \Nan argument; we enjoy being angry, Dialogue: 0,1:10:07.58,1:10:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we enjoy doing all kinds of crazy stuff\Nin this world. Dialogue: 0,1:10:11.67,1:10:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the most important thing \Nfor you to do very often Dialogue: 0,1:10:15.98,1:10:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for other people is to be the example, Dialogue: 0,1:10:18.78,1:10:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the example of harmony, Dialogue: 0,1:10:20.39,1:10:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the example person who shows\Nan alternative way of being. Dialogue: 0,1:10:24.16,1:10:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is one of the most important things. Dialogue: 0,1:10:26.39,1:10:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then as you do that, gradually, \Ngradually, things may turn around. Dialogue: 0,1:10:30.74,1:10:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, if you have the ability \Nto kind of guide them towards Dialogue: 0,1:10:34.41,1:10:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some kind of dhamma teaching, \Nthat's wonderful. Dialogue: 0,1:10:37.01,1:10:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember, because you\Nare the son and the sibling, Dialogue: 0,1:10:40.26,1:10:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very often as the son and the sibling,\Nthey're not gonna listen to you. Dialogue: 0,1:10:43.99,1:10:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because parents don't often listen \Nto the children all that much. Dialogue: 0,1:10:47.34,1:10:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or siblings... yeah, \Nyou're just my brother, shut up. Dialogue: 0,1:10:50.49,1:10:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to hear from you.\NSometimes it's a bit like that. Dialogue: 0,1:10:53.45,1:10:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you get an authority figure \Nthat they trust, Dialogue: 0,1:10:55.93,1:10:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is one of the critical things.\NGet an authority figure, Dialogue: 0,1:10:58.74,1:11:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get Ajahn Bram, right? \NInvite Ajahn Brahm to a Dana. Dialogue: 0,1:11:01.33,1:11:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually I shouldn't say that \Npoor Ajahn Brahm. Dialogue: 0,1:11:03.97,1:11:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very difficult to get Ajahn Brahm \Nfor danas these days. Dialogue: 0,1:11:09.04,1:11:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Get some.. get them to listen to an \Nauthority figure. Dialogue: 0,1:11:12.61,1:11:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you can, invite them to a dana or \Nat least come to somewhere Dialogue: 0,1:11:17.39,1:11:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ajahn Brahm is available for receiving the\Nfood. And then go up to Ajahn Brahm Dialogue: 0,1:11:21.79,1:11:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give a leading question \Nto Ajahan Brahm Dialogue: 0,1:11:24.51,1:11:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,''Ajahn, should there be harmony\Nor quarreling in a family? Dialogue: 0,1:11:28.95,1:11:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think? Can you talk \Nabout that? Something like that. Dialogue: 0,1:11:32.36,1:11:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's see what happens. Dialogue: 0,1:11:34.24,1:11:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Ajahn will probably crack a few \Ngood jokes, Dialogue: 0,1:11:36.54,1:11:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone will laugh, maybe that will kind \Nof .. and a bit of good dhamma in there. Dialogue: 0,1:11:40.49,1:11:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you might be in business; \Nsomething like that. Dialogue: 0,1:11:43.38,1:11:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But don't expect change.\NI think this is the important thing. Dialogue: 0,1:11:46.88,1:11:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Try to help them, encourage them, \Nbut if you expect change, Dialogue: 0,1:11:50.33,1:11:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're asking for suffering for yourself. Dialogue: 0,1:11:54.08,1:11:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last question, which is good,\Nbecause I'm getting a bit tired now. Dialogue: 0,1:11:58.26,1:12:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is from Richard Upton Pickman \Nfrom Scotland, Dialogue: 0,1:12:02.46,1:12:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I listen to you Ajahn, I want to leave\Nmy worldly life behind and become a monk. Dialogue: 0,1:12:08.99,1:12:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But! ... but .. I am married. And I don't\Nwant to break my commitment. Dialogue: 0,1:12:14.33,1:12:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do I reconcile these cravings? Dialogue: 0,1:12:17.94,1:12:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so you have to make the most;\Nif you don't want to break a commitment, Dialogue: 0,1:12:23.30,1:12:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to make the most \Nout of your married life. Yeah. Dialogue: 0,1:12:26.66,1:12:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the ideal thing to do, and this is \Nthe ideal thing to do, Dialogue: 0,1:12:30.58,1:12:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your wife also wants to become a nun.\NShe becomes a nun, you become a monk. Dialogue: 0,1:12:35.87,1:12:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the ideal.\NThat's what I really recommend. Dialogue: 0,1:12:38.86,1:12:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So your main job is now to convince\Nyour wife that nuns are really cool, Dialogue: 0,1:12:44.94,1:12:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are the best. Yeah. Dialogue: 0,1:12:46.52,1:12:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nuns are kind of.. this is the path \Nto the highest happiness. Dialogue: 0,1:12:49.53,1:12:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that may be impossible. \NMaybe your wife is not up for that. Dialogue: 0,1:12:52.61,1:12:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But anyway, that's kind of the ideal. Dialogue: 0,1:12:54.41,1:12:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have some examples of that \Nhere in Perth. Dialogue: 0,1:12:56.74,1:13:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have one monk who was a\Nmonk at Bodhinyana Monastery Dialogue: 0,1:13:00.93,1:13:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a Nun at Dhammasara Monastery,\Nand they decided to do just that, Dialogue: 0,1:13:04.41,1:13:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they became a monk and a nun, Dialogue: 0,1:13:05.87,1:13:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think they are much more happy\Nnow than they were before. Dialogue: 0,1:13:09.21,1:13:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's kind of a good, good news. Dialogue: 0,1:13:11.71,1:13:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some very interesting \Nstories from the suttas. Dialogue: 0,1:13:14.76,1:13:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to the story, \NVenerable Maha Kassapa, Dialogue: 0,1:13:17.88,1:13:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the great monks at the time of\Nthe Buddha, Dialogue: 0,1:13:20.23,1:13:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was married, he had this very wonderful\Nwife before, he was (married). Dialogue: 0,1:13:25.99,1:13:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They decided to split up, she became\Na nun, he became a monk. Dialogue: 0,1:13:29.61,1:13:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think they both became Arahants, \Nfully enlightened. Dialogue: 0,1:13:32.98,1:13:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is what I recommend you to do. Dialogue: 0,1:13:35.72,1:13:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if that doesn't work out, Dialogue: 0,1:13:37.12,1:13:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of the second option, Dialogue: 0,1:13:38.62,1:13:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a low, much, much lower option,\Nis way down the scale. Dialogue: 0,1:13:42.18,1:13:46.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what you really should do \Nif you have tried everything Dialogue: 0,1:13:46.17,1:13:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make your wife into a Nun Dialogue: 0,1:13:47.59,1:13:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if that doesn't work, \Nyou really have to try hard, Dialogue: 0,1:13:50.16,1:13:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the second option-\Nmake the most of your married life. Dialogue: 0,1:13:52.92,1:13:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A married life lived well \Ncan take you a long way on the path Dialogue: 0,1:13:55.99,1:13:57.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you do it in a good way. Dialogue: 0,1:13:57.51,1:14:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see a lot of married people around \Nthe world who are very, very good people Dialogue: 0,1:14:02.06,1:14:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are using the married life \Nto progress in the Dhamma. Dialogue: 0,1:14:05.68,1:14:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do that well, do that in the \Nright way, you can go a long way. Dialogue: 0,1:14:09.25,1:14:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But still better to become a \Nmonk and nun. Dialogue: 0,1:14:11.94,1:14:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Ajahn laughs) Dialogue: 0,1:14:13.72,1:14:16.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, Thank you everyone for this evening. Dialogue: 0,1:14:16.25,1:14:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's pay respects to the \NBuddha Dhamma Sangha Dialogue: 0,1:14:18.90,1:14:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before we call it a day.