1 00:00:00,118 --> 00:00:02,836 (instrumental synthesizer music) 2 00:00:02,836 --> 00:00:04,356 (tape rewinding) 3 00:00:04,356 --> 00:00:07,582 (electronic instrumental music) 4 00:00:11,057 --> 00:00:11,952 - [Voiceover] My father, you see, 5 00:00:11,952 --> 00:00:14,029 interested me in patterns at the very beginning 6 00:00:14,029 --> 00:00:16,816 and then later in things, like we would turn over stones 7 00:00:16,816 --> 00:00:18,161 and watch the ants carry the little 8 00:00:18,161 --> 00:00:20,529 white babies down deeper into the hole. 9 00:00:20,529 --> 00:00:21,761 We would look at worms. 10 00:00:21,761 --> 00:00:24,406 We’d go for walks and we’d look at things all the time, 11 00:00:24,406 --> 00:00:27,111 the stars, the way birds fly. 12 00:00:27,111 --> 00:00:29,905 He was always telling me interesting things. 13 00:00:31,791 --> 00:00:34,077 I mean this story’s a rumor, as far as I’m concerned, 14 00:00:34,077 --> 00:00:36,098 but the story is that before I was born, 15 00:00:36,098 --> 00:00:37,759 he told my mother that, 16 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:39,640 “If it’s a boy, he’ll be a scientist.” 17 00:00:43,151 --> 00:00:44,776 My father used to sit me on his lap 18 00:00:44,776 --> 00:00:46,169 and the one book we did use all 19 00:00:46,169 --> 00:00:48,584 the time was the Encyclopedia Britannica 20 00:00:48,584 --> 00:00:50,506 and he used to sit me on his lap when I was a kid 21 00:00:50,506 --> 00:00:52,398 and read out of the damned thing. 22 00:00:52,398 --> 00:00:55,115 There would be pictures of dinosaurs and then he would read, 23 00:00:55,115 --> 00:00:57,530 you know the long words, the dinosaur so and so 24 00:00:57,530 --> 00:01:01,756 attains a length of so and so many feet. 25 00:01:01,756 --> 00:01:03,637 He would always stop and he would say, 26 00:01:03,637 --> 00:01:04,672 “You know what that means? 27 00:01:04,672 --> 00:01:07,770 "It means, if the dinosaur’s standing on our front yard 28 00:01:07,770 --> 00:01:10,359 "and your bedroom window, you know, is on the second floor 29 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:13,168 "you’d see out the window his head standing looking at you." 30 00:01:13,168 --> 00:01:14,737 He would translate everything 31 00:01:14,737 --> 00:01:15,989 and I learned to translate everything, 32 00:01:15,989 --> 00:01:17,556 so it’s the same disease. 33 00:01:17,556 --> 00:01:18,555 When I read something, 34 00:01:18,555 --> 00:01:20,634 I always translate it in the best I can 35 00:01:20,634 --> 00:01:22,648 into what does it really mean. 36 00:01:24,953 --> 00:01:27,971 I can remember my father talking, talking, talking. 37 00:01:27,971 --> 00:01:29,609 When you go into the museum, for example, 38 00:01:29,609 --> 00:01:32,906 there are great rocks which have long cuts, 39 00:01:32,906 --> 00:01:34,589 grooves in them, from glacier 40 00:01:34,589 --> 00:01:36,471 and I remember, the first time going there, 41 00:01:36,471 --> 00:01:37,759 he stopped there and explained to me 42 00:01:37,759 --> 00:01:39,279 about the ice moving and grinding. 43 00:01:39,279 --> 00:01:41,346 I can hear the voice, practically 44 00:01:41,346 --> 00:01:42,600 and then he would tell me, 45 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,416 “How do you think we know 46 00:01:43,416 --> 00:01:45,185 "there were glaciers in the past?” 47 00:01:45,185 --> 00:01:47,263 He’d point out, “That's what we're looking at, 48 00:01:47,263 --> 00:01:49,806 "that these rocks are found in New York 49 00:01:49,806 --> 00:01:51,745 "and so there must have been ice in New York.” 50 00:01:51,745 --> 00:01:53,079 He understood. 51 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:55,553 A thing that was very important about my father 52 00:01:55,553 --> 00:01:57,991 was not the facts, but the process. 53 00:01:57,991 --> 00:01:59,059 How we find out. 54 00:01:59,059 --> 00:02:01,718 What is the consequence of finding such a rock? 55 00:02:01,718 --> 00:02:03,297 But that’s the kind of guy he was. 56 00:02:03,297 --> 00:02:05,816 I don’t think he ever successfully went to college. 57 00:02:05,816 --> 00:02:08,092 However, he did teach himself a great deal. 58 00:02:08,092 --> 00:02:09,392 He read a lot. 59 00:02:09,392 --> 00:02:11,051 He liked the rational mind 60 00:02:11,050 --> 00:02:12,503 and liked those things which 61 00:02:12,503 --> 00:02:14,407 could be understood by thinking. 62 00:02:14,407 --> 00:02:17,119 So it’s not hard to understand I got interested in science. 63 00:02:20,272 --> 00:02:22,302 I got a laboratory in my room. 64 00:02:22,302 --> 00:02:24,868 We also played a trick on my mother there. 65 00:02:24,868 --> 00:02:28,189 We put sodium ferrocyanide in the towels 66 00:02:28,189 --> 00:02:30,963 and another substance, an iron salt, 67 00:02:30,963 --> 00:02:32,751 probably alum, in the soap 68 00:02:32,751 --> 00:02:34,747 and when they come together, they make blue ink. 69 00:02:34,747 --> 00:02:36,919 So we were supposed to fool my mother, you see. 70 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,357 She would wash her hands and then when she dried them, 71 00:02:39,357 --> 00:02:41,377 her hands would turn blue, 72 00:02:41,377 --> 00:02:43,595 but we didn’t think the towel would turn blue. 73 00:02:43,595 --> 00:02:44,977 Anyway, she was horrified, 74 00:02:44,977 --> 00:02:48,488 the screams of, “My good linen towels!” 75 00:02:48,488 --> 00:02:49,651 But she was always cooperative. 76 00:02:49,651 --> 00:02:51,961 She never was afraid of the experiments. 77 00:02:51,961 --> 00:02:53,470 The bridge partners, would tell her, 78 00:02:53,470 --> 00:02:54,922 “How can you let the child have a laboratory? 79 00:02:54,922 --> 00:02:56,872 "He'll blow up the house," and all this kind of talk 80 00:02:56,872 --> 00:02:58,288 and she just said, “It’s worth it.” 81 00:02:58,288 --> 00:02:59,989 I mean, “ It’s worth the risk.” 82 00:03:03,977 --> 00:03:06,973 I took later solid geometry and trigonometry. 83 00:03:06,973 --> 00:03:08,412 In solid geometry was the first time 84 00:03:08,412 --> 00:03:10,933 I had any mathematical difficulties. 85 00:03:10,933 --> 00:03:12,162 It was my only experience with how 86 00:03:12,162 --> 00:03:14,844 it must feel to the ordinary human being 87 00:03:14,844 --> 00:03:17,224 a then I discovered what was wrong. 88 00:03:17,224 --> 00:03:19,048 The diagrams that were being drawn 89 00:03:19,048 --> 00:03:20,370 on the blackboard were three-dimensional 90 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:22,170 and I was thinking of them as plane diagrams 91 00:03:22,170 --> 00:03:24,296 and I couldn’t understand what the hell was going on. 92 00:03:24,296 --> 00:03:26,570 It was a mistake in the orientation. 93 00:03:26,570 --> 00:03:29,229 When he would draw pictures and I would see a parallelogram 94 00:03:29,229 --> 00:03:30,970 and he called it a square, 95 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:32,677 because it was tilted out of the plane, you know 96 00:03:32,677 --> 00:03:34,569 and I, “Oh God, this thing doesn’t make any sense. 97 00:03:34,569 --> 00:03:36,342 "What is he talking about?” 98 00:03:36,342 --> 00:03:38,200 It was a terrifying experience. 99 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,638 Butterflies in my stomach kind of feeling. 100 00:03:40,638 --> 00:03:43,122 But it was just a dumb mistake. 101 00:03:43,122 --> 00:03:45,154 But I suspect that this kind of a dumb mistake 102 00:03:45,154 --> 00:03:48,532 is quite common to people learning mathematics. 103 00:03:48,532 --> 00:03:51,877 Part of the missing understanding is to mistake 104 00:03:51,877 --> 00:03:54,205 what it is you’re supposed to know. 105 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:58,587 It isn’t the question of learning anything precisely, 106 00:03:58,587 --> 00:04:02,047 but of learning that there’s something exciting over there 107 00:04:02,047 --> 00:04:04,172 and I think that the same thing happened with my father. 108 00:04:04,172 --> 00:04:06,876 My father never really knew anything in detail, 109 00:04:06,876 --> 00:04:09,466 but would tell me what’s interesting about the world 110 00:04:09,466 --> 00:04:12,265 and where, if you look, you’ll find still more interests, 111 00:04:12,265 --> 00:04:14,644 so that later I would say, “Well, this is going to be good. 112 00:04:14,644 --> 00:04:16,141 "I know this has got something to do with this, 113 00:04:16,141 --> 00:04:17,651 "which is hot stuff.” 114 00:04:17,651 --> 00:04:20,113 This kind of feeling of what was important 115 00:04:20,113 --> 00:04:21,297 and that is the key. 116 00:04:21,297 --> 00:04:24,455 The key was somehow to know what was important 117 00:04:24,455 --> 00:04:26,038 and what was not important, what was exciting, 118 00:04:26,038 --> 00:04:28,466 because I can’t learn everything. 119 00:04:28,466 --> 00:04:31,515 (electronic instrumental music) 120 00:04:41,505 --> 00:04:42,277 The thing that I loved was, 121 00:04:42,277 --> 00:04:44,158 everything that I read was serious, 122 00:04:44,158 --> 00:04:45,331 wasn’t written for a child. 123 00:04:45,331 --> 00:04:47,058 I didn’t like children’s things. 124 00:04:47,058 --> 00:04:48,649 Because, for one thing I was very, 125 00:04:48,649 --> 00:04:50,717 very, and still am, very sensitive 126 00:04:50,717 --> 00:04:53,642 and very worried about was that the thing to be dead honest, 127 00:04:53,642 --> 00:04:55,987 that it isn’t fixed up so it looks easy. 128 00:04:55,987 --> 00:04:57,823 Details purposely left out 129 00:04:57,823 --> 00:05:00,027 or slightly erroneous explanations, 130 00:05:00,027 --> 00:05:01,491 in order to get away with it. 131 00:05:01,491 --> 00:05:03,011 This was intolerable. 132 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,403 I kind of try to imagine what would 133 00:05:08,403 --> 00:05:11,039 have happened to me if I’d lived in today’s era. 134 00:05:11,039 --> 00:05:12,536 I’m rather horrified. 135 00:05:12,536 --> 00:05:14,115 I think there are too many books, 136 00:05:14,115 --> 00:05:15,874 that the mind gets boggled. 137 00:05:15,874 --> 00:05:18,097 If I got interested, I would have so many things to look at, 138 00:05:18,097 --> 00:05:19,665 I would go crazy. 139 00:05:19,665 --> 00:05:20,712 It’s too easy. 140 00:05:30,284 --> 00:05:31,697 (tape reversing) 141 00:05:31,697 --> 00:05:32,000 Subtitles by the Amara.org community