WEBVTT 00:00:05.027 --> 00:00:07.692 RC3 preroll music 00:00:07.692 --> 00:00:14.640 Herald: Hello, and welcome back on the x-Hain stage at this very strange RC3. Now 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:22.320 on the second day and our next talk is by aprica and Saad, we're going to talk about 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:27.280 how to add critical making to your critical thinking to your making. And 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:35.360 there was a talk two years ago at 35 c3 when we're still able to meet in person, 00:00:35.360 --> 00:00:40.040 which was also already talking about the subject. And this now kind of as a follow 00:00:40.040 --> 00:00:45.120 up. And they're going to talk about what we can learn from critical makers and 00:00:45.120 --> 00:00:50.880 other grassroot initiatives. Yes, the stage is yours. 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:56.960 aprica: Thank you, Carl. Thank you so much for hosting us here under the tree and 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:06.320 X-Hain. Well, maybe not so great to be here and great to have you all watching in 00:01:06.320 --> 00:01:12.800 the stream, and I hope next year we will meet on the trees again and also not on 00:01:12.800 --> 00:01:22.160 the trees and the at the rocket. So I'm aprica . I'm part of the global innovation 00:01:22.160 --> 00:01:31.040 gathering a big worldwide community that I often describe as global erpha, which most 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:36.160 of the CCC- folks would know as a Erfahrungsaustauschkreis. So knowledge 00:01:36.160 --> 00:01:43.360 sharing and circle. And so we are also a knowledge sharing circle, and I'm joined 00:01:43.360 --> 00:01:48.160 by Saad, who was one of the amazing members of the association and of the 00:01:48.160 --> 00:01:53.120 network of gig from Singapore. And do you want to quickly introduce yourself as 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:58.000 well? Saad: Sure thing. I'm based in Singapore 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:05.600 normally, and last year we had a little talk about with Regina and on critical 00:02:06.160 --> 00:02:10.560 thinking and critical making, which was actually quite phenomenal. The response 00:02:11.200 --> 00:02:15.840 was really great. And who had a chance to work on this, together with the other gig 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:21.200 members, members of the Global Innovation Group, which is also part. So I'm very 00:02:21.200 --> 00:02:25.760 happy to be with you a little bit of my background. I'm a tech person. I run a 00:02:25.760 --> 00:02:32.640 small startup in Singapore and I also help with maker spaces and tech for good. And 00:02:32.640 --> 00:02:38.000 I'm a huge coffee snob that that's me. aprica: Other people would call it coffee 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.720 coffee geek. both laughing Saab:That works too. 00:02:42.320 --> 00:02:49.640 aprica: Nice. So I think some people now in the stream also see our slides and we 00:02:49.640 --> 00:02:55.040 are on the first slide. And on the second slide, you would see a picture of an 00:02:55.040 --> 00:03:03.760 actual stage and an actual Congress where Regina and Saad last year defined 00:03:03.760 --> 00:03:11.120 critical, making the topic rules two years ago. It's basically yesterday like pre- 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:16.720 pandemic, but it's also 100 years ago, right? So last timelaughs you spoke 00:03:16.720 --> 00:03:22.800 about the topic, you define it as adding critical thinking to the making. And so we 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:30.400 arrive at critical making. And I guess there's like 200 other definitions of 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:36.160 this. Which one did you share, Saad? Saad: Making with a purpose, I think, is 00:03:36.160 --> 00:03:43.200 the one that puts the best. The idea that the skills and experience and knowledge 00:03:43.200 --> 00:03:48.800 that have being applied towards something that is constructive and meaningful, and 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:53.600 that means very different things to very different people. So depending on the 00:03:53.600 --> 00:03:59.120 context that you're in, the definition changes quite dramatically by sort of 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:03.200 digging down into it, making with a purpose, understanding what that purpose 00:04:03.200 --> 00:04:07.120 is, rather than just using your 3D printer for printing you over their heads all the 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:13.120 time, you think about how this could actually help people with customization, 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:17.600 personalization, things like that. So that's the that's the sort of thing that 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.160 definition, but I prefer to making with the purpase. 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:26.720 aprica: Well, yeah, that's certainly one of them. Yeah, very easy to understand 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:32.640 once. Also, it's also very academic concept. And so everybody who's interested 00:04:32.640 --> 00:04:38.160 in this whole concept and all and all the different areas of critical making, we 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:43.840 highly recommend. I highly recommend because speaking of this, I really 00:04:43.840 --> 00:04:49.200 recommend to watch the talk by Regina and Saad. It's like one hour long, and it will 00:04:49.200 --> 00:04:57.280 give them very comprehensive and also academic viewpoint of the topic. And today 00:04:57.280 --> 00:05:03.680 I think we will focus more on, what happened since then and what's beyond just 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:13.040 the not just beyond the concept. So to go to the third slide, you see, this is one 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.680 of the pictures also shared in the talk back then of the global innovation 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:23.840 gathering, when we also were still gathering physically with the Big Blue 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:33.760 Mobile Lab. And I would love to go like for two minutes into what's happened since 00:05:34.320 --> 00:05:38.960 we gathered the last time. So what happened during the pandemic in terms of 00:05:40.640 --> 00:05:48.160 how? How did critical making evolve in public perception during the time of the 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:54.240 pandemic? Saad, what would you say? Saad: Well, I think we've seen a 00:05:54.240 --> 00:06:03.840 phenomenal response, a global response from makers to meet the needs of what the 00:06:03.840 --> 00:06:10.640 pandemic has surfaced. I mean, I think there's a phenomenal potential here in the 00:06:10.640 --> 00:06:16.720 nature of this response. But if we remember about a year or so ago and I 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:21.440 know, time is broken because of COVID, but about a year or so ago, there was this 00:06:21.440 --> 00:06:28.160 shortage of personal protective equipment, PPE and people came forward in order to 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:34.400 try and help. And it wasn't just health care workers, it wasn't just social 00:06:34.400 --> 00:06:39.680 workers. It was anybody and everybody who had skills or knowledge or experience, 00:06:40.640 --> 00:06:46.560 tried to find a way to make themselves useful. And this happening on a global 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:53.600 scale in response to something like the personal shortage of PPE. Drew out a lot 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:58.480 of critical neighbors, as in makers who were quite comfortable with how 3D 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:04.000 printers work or how maker spaces work, and trying to apply that to a social need, 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:11.440 which I think is remarkable in itself. But on a global scale, I think that that that 00:07:11.440 --> 00:07:17.440 potential is phenomenal, that all of us have had to find ways to adapt digitally 00:07:17.440 --> 00:07:23.600 and go online and do things remotely. And I really miss having a CCC in person, for 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:28.960 example, and the global innovation gathering hasn't happened in person. So I 00:07:28.960 --> 00:07:32.880 really do miss that and I'm looking forward to a time where we're able to meet 00:07:32.880 --> 00:07:39.360 in person again, trying to stay optimistic, but with we're still not out 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:44.720 of it yet. The pandemic is still very much something we're adapting to, something 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:51.440 that we're responding to. And to answer your question, what's changed, I feel, is 00:07:52.080 --> 00:07:56.720 that people are now more involved. People who are normally sort of in their own 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:02.640 maker spaces bubble or in the tech bubble or in the hacker space bubble are now more 00:08:02.640 --> 00:08:08.800 involved and more engaged and recognized for the skills to be relevant to a social 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:14.320 cause. So I think moving forward, I would like to see us try and tap on that 00:08:14.320 --> 00:08:19.120 potential as much as possible. aprica: Yeah, definitely, and I mean, the 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:25.520 space we're in at the moment, the Ixion can make space was like at the forefront 00:08:25.520 --> 00:08:32.000 together with, of course, many other spaces in Germany to produce such 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:38.400 protective equipment. And if you see around around us now, you also see like 00:08:38.400 --> 00:08:43.920 lots of figurines of, I don't know, Yoda hats, for example, and many other things 00:08:43.920 --> 00:08:49.920 that bring joy to making as well. And that, for example, help to educate about, 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:58.278 which tools to use, for example. And then, yeah, looking in what you're doing in 00:08:58.278 --> 00:09:05.160 Singapore, was creating toys for children with disabilities, which you also sharing 00:09:05.160 --> 00:09:10.784 in the talk two years ago, where they can interact with like big buttons instead of 00:09:10.784 --> 00:09:15.848 like tiny, tiny things that they can't really touch and interact with. That's 00:09:15.848 --> 00:09:22.347 also bringing lots of joy. And it's not only always to counter a pandemic, but it 00:09:22.347 --> 00:09:29.865 was there before. And now I think it's very, yeah, more in mainstream. Well, it 00:09:29.865 --> 00:09:37.960 was for a time more arriving in mainstream that this is really, yeah, a movement or 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:47.061 movements to follow and to contribute to as well. So what we often do and this is 00:09:47.061 --> 00:09:55.843 the next slide is we create a Horizon 2020 proposal for things we want to do. And so 00:09:55.843 --> 00:10:02.783 this is my work actually to bring in funding that lasts us for two and a half 00:10:02.783 --> 00:10:09.802 years, for example, in this case, to really further research, to collaborate 00:10:09.802 --> 00:10:16.766 with researchers as a civil society organization ourselves and to be able to 00:10:16.766 --> 00:10:24.332 work together globally on a specific project and on a specific topic. So in the 00:10:24.332 --> 00:10:31.395 craziness of the beginning of the pandemic, we found that critical making is 00:10:31.395 --> 00:10:37.440 the one topic that is not very researched and that we can contribute to as a network 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:43.269 and also connecting with Regina as part of the two billion and other organizations 00:10:43.269 --> 00:10:48.533 that you see here with Vicki Factory. That's a global platform for makers to 00:10:48.533 --> 00:10:55.680 share designs, for example, and to find a community of other designers and makers 00:10:55.680 --> 00:11:02.091 and the Center for Social Innovation in Austria and also Vitt in Finland. So we've 00:11:02.091 --> 00:11:08.805 produced this project together that got finally accepted by the European Union, 00:11:08.805 --> 00:11:16.080 which was really nice. And so we are now thankful for getting support for the 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:24.023 research we're doing now in critical making. So this was after after Congress 00:11:24.023 --> 00:11:33.093 that we wrote this. And the main goal and you see this on the next slide, is to help 00:11:33.093 --> 00:11:40.268 make a communities to work with anyone to contribute to open source innovation. And 00:11:40.268 --> 00:11:47.156 so from this very complex like research frameworks that Horizon 2020 is using, 00:11:47.156 --> 00:11:54.204 like the responsible research and innovation framework and others, we found 00:11:54.204 --> 00:12:01.767 that it connects very well with values that also we want to further contribute 00:12:01.767 --> 00:12:11.247 to, like openness, like inclusion. And so we selected a few of those. We selected 00:12:11.247 --> 00:12:17.790 gender diversity, we selected young talents. We call it because in such 00:12:17.790 --> 00:12:26.253 proposals, you often have to use language that speaks to the funder. And we also 00:12:26.253 --> 00:12:35.990 selected openness as a very broad term, also to research on. And today I would 00:12:35.990 --> 00:12:42.503 like to show you a little bit of what's already happened, because we're now at the 00:12:42.503 --> 00:12:48.280 end of the first year of the project and show you about what we're up to as well. 00:12:48.280 --> 00:12:56.441 So to just give you a very tiny glimpse into, what we did in the gender work 00:12:56.441 --> 00:13:05.620 package, we work with different spaces, different makers in several countries. And 00:13:05.620 --> 00:13:13.480 in this case, I brought two examples of case studies that will be published soon 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:20.650 about different spaces. The. One is Miss Baltazar Laboratory and Austria, which I 00:13:20.650 --> 00:13:27.063 highly recommend to check out. And then there were like many different more and 00:13:27.063 --> 00:13:32.985 also X-Hain. And of course, I need to show that here as we are in X-Hain at the 00:13:32.985 --> 00:13:40.160 moment. laughs And this is super nice because of course, if you like think about 00:13:40.160 --> 00:13:46.961 gender, many people would assume it's only about like inclusion of women of girls in 00:13:46.961 --> 00:13:53.889 maker spaces. But of course it's not. It's like to have an understanding of the 00:13:53.889 --> 00:14:01.400 multitude of genders and also like them to to include everyone. Also have a nice 00:14:01.400 --> 00:14:09.160 space for people identifying as male, female and many other genders. And in this 00:14:09.160 --> 00:14:17.477 case, it's just so nice also about X-Hain, that they are not saying like we have 00:14:17.477 --> 00:14:24.120 space for women or we have space for only for a specific kind of nerd. But we want 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:31.667 to be very, very inclusive and very safe for everyone. So that's just a very tiny 00:14:31.667 --> 00:14:38.994 examples you will find online more in our deliverables. We call it that. Yeah. The 00:14:38.994 --> 00:14:44.842 reports that we have to hand in to the European Union. And then after handing 00:14:44.842 --> 00:14:51.040 them in, we take snippets out of these and published them and a more like human 00:14:51.040 --> 00:14:58.501 interaction formats, that people outside of academia can also read better and watch 00:14:58.501 --> 00:15:06.500 better. Than the next one I see in slide nine is Yang Taelons, which basically make 00:15:06.500 --> 00:15:14.144 about maker education for young people. And there you already find online, and 00:15:14.144 --> 00:15:20.000 that's the next slide. The review of measures to integrate young people into 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:26.028 make a community. And then we looked mostly only at Germany at the moment and 00:15:26.028 --> 00:15:32.707 want to be creating this for other countries as well. So if you're interested 00:15:32.707 --> 00:15:38.267 in this part of the project, you can already download like the full report, the 00:15:38.267 --> 00:15:45.463 first one. But you can also reach out to us and contribute to the next steps. And 00:15:45.463 --> 00:15:53.357 then the part in the next slide openness, which is the one that I want to be talking 00:15:53.357 --> 00:16:01.258 a little bit more about, because that's the one, where we're mostly working 00:16:01.258 --> 00:16:08.717 together here. So for openness, you see in the next slide, that was some academic 00:16:08.717 --> 00:16:14.144 article now published, which is a literature review on the openness 00:16:14.144 --> 00:16:23.751 practices and which is like, very directed for researchers, of course. But we're also 00:16:23.751 --> 00:16:31.861 starting to make, yeah, like talks like this about what was found out by our 00:16:31.861 --> 00:16:38.970 colleagues, who were doing the literature review. So in the next slide, you see a 00:16:38.970 --> 00:16:45.600 little bit more accessible. What they found is that openness, as probably all of 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:52.300 you also know, it's one of the core values of global makeup movements. But as you 00:16:52.300 --> 00:16:59.197 probably also all know, there are lots and lots of different interpretations and ways 00:16:59.197 --> 00:17:05.400 of practicing this. So we can speak about open hardware, which is probably one of 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:11.750 the most obvious for many of the people just watching this, because it's also 00:17:11.750 --> 00:17:19.936 something we speak at Chaos Congress all the time. So like sharing what you're 00:17:19.936 --> 00:17:28.996 making and like open repositories, for example, creating very easy tech like 00:17:28.996 --> 00:17:37.888 frugal tech, customizing things. So that's all integral part of open hardware. I 00:17:37.888 --> 00:17:45.765 would say from then found other aspects that are strong in the literature as well, 00:17:45.765 --> 00:17:52.229 like openness can also be understood as inclusion and empowerment of, for example, 00:17:52.229 --> 00:17:59.320 of people with disabilities, but also generally consumers or ethnic minorities. 00:17:59.320 --> 00:18:09.258 So all different kinds of inclusions that one could think of. It's probably like one 00:18:09.258 --> 00:18:16.370 of the things, I think also a slick hacker. Ethics is concerned, but. That is 00:18:16.370 --> 00:18:24.631 maybe not always in our minds and then also very important economic growth, 00:18:24.631 --> 00:18:32.920 especially if we look at the global scale of the maker movement. So that we have 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:42.411 open business models, for example, and high innovation activities and. And the 00:18:42.411 --> 00:18:52.869 field. And so this already shows also lots of tension, so I would like to go to the 00:18:52.869 --> 00:18:58.936 next slide, where you see the tensions identified in the scientific literature. 00:18:58.936 --> 00:19:04.510 So there's lots of tension between different economic stances like people who 00:19:04.510 --> 00:19:10.689 want to have their make up practice, mostly for leisure purposes, mostly for 00:19:10.689 --> 00:19:20.240 also capitalistic or anti capitalistic purposes. So this is quite an important 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:27.813 tension to identify and also to to work around. Then tensions arising from 00:19:27.813 --> 00:19:34.993 different imagined areas of the future role of making like, do you use it in a 00:19:34.993 --> 00:19:42.520 revolutionary sense or in the sense that contributes to the current status of the 00:19:42.520 --> 00:19:50.355 capitalist system, for example? And then also, of course, always that's maybe the 00:19:50.355 --> 00:19:58.363 least important finding between individual and collective orientations, where you 00:19:58.363 --> 00:20:07.148 often have, like, What do I do? And what is good for society is. Something that's 00:20:07.148 --> 00:20:15.905 always important to to go forward with us as a discussion. Yeah. So these are the 00:20:15.905 --> 00:20:26.480 scientific findings from this article. Not not all of them, of course. Please read 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:35.775 the article also has more in it. And do you want to add something, Saad? You will 00:20:35.775 --> 00:20:40.640 bring more examples of these different tensions, I guess. 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:47.238 Saad: Yeah, I mean, I have my perspective is always the sort of hands on learning by 00:20:47.238 --> 00:20:53.009 example kind of approach. For the more academic perspective, I turn to Regina and 00:20:53.009 --> 00:20:58.480 people who are with the academic community. So I won't I can't really speak 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:05.320 to that perspective. But, to add to what you've already said, I think the the 00:21:05.320 --> 00:21:13.210 nature of the work, at least from my perspective, being all hands on does meet 00:21:13.210 --> 00:21:20.861 a lot of resistance with these restrictions, you the whole pandemic 00:21:20.861 --> 00:21:29.273 situation. So I'm hoping that we are going to see more examples of people coming 00:21:29.273 --> 00:21:35.641 forward with a more constructive mindset and the ability to share. Because we've 00:21:35.641 --> 00:21:42.202 seen examples of this in response to the pandemic, and some of that is now starting 00:21:42.202 --> 00:21:49.092 to show up in people's mindset. And when people who are normally not so engaged 00:21:49.092 --> 00:21:55.738 with engineering, good, where I volunteer, is depends entirely on volunteers. And 00:21:55.738 --> 00:22:01.748 sometimes people show up like once a week, once one weekend a month to volunteer, and 00:22:01.748 --> 00:22:07.264 then they go back into their day to day lives and we see them every now and again, 00:22:07.264 --> 00:22:12.492 when they have the time. But in the last few in the recent past, we've seen a 00:22:12.492 --> 00:22:18.640 different kind of volunteer, a different kind of mindset that they bring to their 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:24.915 work. And it seems a little bit more motivated, I feel. And so the work, that 00:22:24.915 --> 00:22:31.960 we've been doing in the past, this idea of being open and to share and to be able to 00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:38.835 look into other people's work and try and replicate it, that aspect is starting to 00:22:38.835 --> 00:22:44.103 get to be more welcomed by these volunteers. It's not seen as an alien 00:22:44.103 --> 00:22:48.450 idea. It's not like you have to sort of like workshop it and get people 00:22:48.450 --> 00:22:55.532 comfortable with this idea. And in Asian cultures, that more of that is necessary, 00:22:55.532 --> 00:23:02.603 I feel. But the remarkable difference, I think. I don't know if this is just me, 00:23:02.603 --> 00:23:08.306 but from what I've seen, the mindset has shifted and people are more open to trying 00:23:08.306 --> 00:23:12.920 new things and also sharing what they've tried, rather than waiting until they get 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:17.684 to a point, that something works and then they share it. So the process of that 00:23:17.684 --> 00:23:22.354 they're going through is something that you don't, at least with Asian 00:23:22.354 --> 00:23:27.320 sensibilities, you tend not to share it. You would think that it's not good enough 00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:31.945 or it's not fully formed yet. So you tend to keep it to yourself or just a few 00:23:31.945 --> 00:23:36.520 people that you're working with and it never gets documented. It never gets 00:23:36.520 --> 00:23:40.223 shared. But I'm starting to see more examples of that. 00:23:40.223 --> 00:23:46.979 aprica: Yeah, I think that's not only Asian. Asian problem laughs, but we have 00:23:46.979 --> 00:23:54.617 it like everywhere that you have so many projects or left foot products that people 00:23:54.617 --> 00:24:00.570 create, that are like prototypes to a certain stage and then you either don't 00:24:00.570 --> 00:24:06.714 have time for it anymore or you just feel like you can't finish it and it never gets 00:24:06.714 --> 00:24:14.360 documented. So that's also one of the issues. We found another identified when 00:24:14.360 --> 00:24:23.280 we met in 2019 in Kenya and the crew. This the global innovation gathering in the 00:24:23.280 --> 00:24:30.000 like Work Workshop kind of conference, and we came up with what is shared on the next 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:35.454 slide. The principles of sustainable making and sustainable is not only 00:24:35.454 --> 00:24:41.962 environmentally, but also, what you would call maybe responsible or with purpose. So 00:24:41.962 --> 00:24:45.937 do you want to share a little bit more about that? 00:24:45.937 --> 00:24:51.967 Saad: With the process behind? This was mind boggling to me. The sort of energy 00:24:51.967 --> 00:25:00.247 that was in the room at the time, when we were discussing this was sort of, for me, 00:25:00.247 --> 00:25:06.880 at least very hard to keep up with. And the challenge was to try and encapsulate 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:11.954 what that sort of very diverse perspectives that were coming in all at 00:25:11.954 --> 00:25:17.141 the same time, because with the global innovation gathering and many other groups 00:25:17.141 --> 00:25:23.219 of that sort. There's a lot of diversity and the nature of the people who are 00:25:23.219 --> 00:25:29.846 working on maker spaces and co-working spaces are sort of enterprise type of 00:25:29.846 --> 00:25:35.692 ecosystems or hackerspaces. They're very socially engaged and it tends to be in 00:25:35.692 --> 00:25:42.039 response to the local environment in which they exist. So the learnings and the sort 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:49.265 of mindset that they have and they bring to this, this particular topic, that we're 00:25:49.265 --> 00:25:56.316 talking about unlocked a whole world of opinions and perspectives. And all of that 00:25:56.316 --> 00:26:01.425 was flooding in and to this room after having gone through the sort of ice 00:26:01.425 --> 00:26:07.082 breaking thing, it was all just pouring in and it was very difficult to sort of sort 00:26:07.082 --> 00:26:13.398 out what was happening. So the process was a mess. And if you look at the image now, 00:26:13.398 --> 00:26:20.772 it's very neat and clean and tidy. But I feel every single aspect of what's being 00:26:20.772 --> 00:26:27.967 portrayed here is a representation of this diversity in an international on a global 00:26:27.967 --> 00:26:34.303 scale, and all of this was just before the pandemic and the idea of this of this 00:26:34.303 --> 00:26:41.646 global perspective, bringing it through times of crisis, I think is phenomenal. I 00:26:41.646 --> 00:26:51.110 mean, I could go on and on and Typekit, but that's just what I think at the point. 00:26:51.110 --> 00:26:59.422 aprica: Thank you, and yeah, I also feel it's phenomenal, and we try to replicate 00:26:59.422 --> 00:27:07.280 this kind of. Yeah. Sessions and workshops online and to have big whiteboards 00:27:07.280 --> 00:27:14.880 together. But yeah, I'm very happy that we also got to build this still in person. 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:21.120 And so we came up with these five principles of integrate local knowledge of 00:27:21.120 --> 00:27:26.880 make things that make sense, of share how you make like that's one of the openness 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:33.120 factors, of course, build for continuity and also include ecosystem services. So 00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:38.960 look around you and look what's already there and also contribute back to what's 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:45.600 around you. And based on these and what we already talked about in particular making. 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:54.880 We built this project. And while I was away for three months and didn't look at 00:27:54.880 --> 00:28:03.840 any email and recharged this year, the project team also updated this for our 00:28:03.840 --> 00:28:14.000 project, so that we now look at being local and connected. Have like a social 00:28:14.560 --> 00:28:23.200 background and what you're doing at the criticality. So be reflexive, have an 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:29.280 impact and change structures and adding to it the joyful and meaningful. But we 00:28:29.280 --> 00:28:34.320 didn't found and our principles PAC Man, which is we of course, always think that's 00:28:34.320 --> 00:28:42.160 part of it, hopefully.laughes So adding some glitter is always necessary. So this 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:50.080 from that slide is, what we're now working with and the critical making principles, 00:28:50.080 --> 00:28:57.680 basically, and we are also building upon it in the next steps of the project. So I 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:03.920 would like to share, what we're now working on in the next few months, which 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:10.960 is on the next slide. The Critical Making Mentoring program, which is to be starting 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:21.280 to have an open call in January or early February. And then we'll go through four 00:29:21.280 --> 00:29:26.480 will go on for the whole year. So on the next slide, you see, why are we doing 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:36.160 this? We did like a small survey within our own circles and again found, that 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:42.720 openness also for everybody in the global innovation gathering community is very 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:49.040 important value, which we knew, but it's nice to see it again. And then also the 00:29:49.040 --> 00:29:55.375 economic opportunities of making all very important. So we're thinking about lower 00:29:55.375 --> 00:30:00.400 income countries sometimes. But also if you look at high income countries, there's 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:07.280 so many volunteer projects like projects are doing in your free time that in the 00:30:07.280 --> 00:30:13.920 end you would like to find somehow a way to further work on them. And what is 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:22.400 possible without any like economic background to add to it? And then also 00:30:23.040 --> 00:30:30.480 inclusion was recognized as an important topic like including, for example, people 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:37.520 with lower technical skills and also, for example, having making more accessible for 00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:44.480 people with disabilities. So we're looking at that. And on the next slide, you see, 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:50.000 I'm trying to live up to the value of sharing early, like one of those online 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:58.400 mind boards of like forts of seeing, what we want to be doing in the year in this 00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:06.480 project. where we're having mentoring workshops throughout the summer and we 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:13.680 will hopefully in the end have an amazing demo week or demo day, where we also give 00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:21.985 a reward for people who participate in it. And we're still in this last phase of co- 00:31:21.985 --> 00:31:32.159 designing that program to prepare the open call. So I'm inviting you for watching now 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:42.160 already to watch our space, to maybe apply for the program or share it also with 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:49.520 others who could be interested in it. And last but not least, I would like to share 00:31:49.520 --> 00:31:56.400 a few tools and. Resources, whereas currently assembling. So one of the things 00:31:57.120 --> 00:32:04.960 we're preparing for the next two months, I think, is toolkits for researchers and 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:12.720 filmmakers. And you see on the next slide one example of a tool for makers, to learn 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:19.760 about open hardware, and I hope you all know this already. But if not, check out 00:32:19.760 --> 00:32:28.640 this open hardware makers program. It's an amazing resource to learn like the basics 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:37.120 of open hardware. We collected, you see on the next slide, lots and lots of different 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:44.400 resources for people to look at. And this is just the first page of a long list, 00:32:45.040 --> 00:32:52.160 that we want to publish in the next weeks for people to look at and to add to. And 00:32:52.160 --> 00:33:01.120 then the last bit I want to be sharing is the self-reflection as a slider tool. And 00:33:01.120 --> 00:33:10.560 this is what you find on the slider tool page, where we also look at the different 00:33:11.360 --> 00:33:21.840 categories of the principles and where we use this tool once we start with the 00:33:21.840 --> 00:33:27.680 mentoring program for people to just reflect back on their own making on their 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:35.440 own projects and where we have the idea that this would be like a like a game and 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:41.760 Saad, you created that idea together with a few other people also in Singapore to 00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:48.080 just have like a needle to spin. And then you don't always answer it and the same 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:54.400 like one after the other question, but you can really make it also a little bit more 00:33:54.400 --> 00:34:02.560 fun. So on the next page, you see how this was created, also from masi slides back 00:34:03.600 --> 00:34:12.800 back, when we were meeting in person. So how it evolved and on the next slide, you 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:20.160 see some guiding cards, that should help you to actually think about what to ask 00:34:20.160 --> 00:34:27.360 yourself like. How do you think about what makes sense or how do you think about 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:33.040 being self-sustainable and to to share a few questions around this? So you have 00:34:33.040 --> 00:34:38.160 like a card game that you can have and you maker space and you can make a workshop 00:34:38.160 --> 00:34:45.758 around it and work with other people in the maker space to speak about that. So, 00:34:45.758 --> 00:34:56.280 and then on the last page, you see how to follow the project and how to contribute 00:34:56.280 --> 00:35:03.814 to it also in the wiki factory community and where we will also be launching the 00:35:03.814 --> 00:35:13.822 calls on these platforms very soon in the next year, which is basically tomorrow. 00:35:13.822 --> 00:35:20.712 both are laughing And if you're watching this in January, it's maybe already there 00:35:20.712 --> 00:35:29.840 in February. So now I would say call can come back. 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:35.680 Herald: Yes. Thank you very much for the talk. And before now, we have a few more 00:35:35.680 --> 00:35:41.280 minutes for a quick Q&A session. And before we start that, I want to remind the 00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:47.040 viewers and listeners that you can ask questions for this talk using Twitter and 00:35:47.040 --> 00:35:56.400 Mastodon using the hashtag ac3xhain. That's rc3xhain. And you can also ask 00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:04.320 questions on IRC on Hekint and using the Channel RC3-XHain. And we already got a 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:10.320 few questions in, and many of them are asking, where they can find more 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.600 information. So you already showed the link just now is everything you talked 00:36:15.600 --> 00:36:20.243 about can be found on there, I think? aprica: Not everything is published yet. 00:36:20.243 --> 00:36:29.600 Many of the things I just showed are also still a work in progress. And if somebody 00:36:29.600 --> 00:36:36.322 is like, eager to have it immediately, we can of course share like our internal 00:36:36.322 --> 00:36:44.139 boards with people, but otherwise we always like continuously publish things on 00:36:44.139 --> 00:36:49.440 the website to to find. Yeah. Herald: OK. So the people just have to 00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:54.800 follow you on Twitter and look at your website and reach out directly to you. And 00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:00.316 then the next question I got here was What is frugal tech, exactly? 00:37:00.316 --> 00:37:05.330 aprica: Saad, do you want to answer that? both are laughing 00:37:05.330 --> 00:37:10.807 Saad: It's an interesting question. I mean, if depending on who you ask, it'll 00:37:10.807 --> 00:37:16.113 probably get co-opted as a new buzzword or a hashtag, especially if you talk to the 00:37:16.113 --> 00:37:21.504 voice of venture capital and sort of world. But the way I see it is sort of 00:37:21.504 --> 00:37:27.977 like borrowing from the disruptive mindset where you look at what is available in the 00:37:27.977 --> 00:37:32.200 marketplace and find a lower cost alternative for it. And when you look at 00:37:32.200 --> 00:37:36.129 the assistive tech marketplace, when you work with persons with disabilities and 00:37:36.129 --> 00:37:40.838 you look at the devices that are available, they suffer from high prices 00:37:40.838 --> 00:37:47.493 because of supply and demand. And you have a fairly small, relatively small market 00:37:47.493 --> 00:37:52.571 and the cost of production of a specialized device is quite high. So the 00:37:52.571 --> 00:37:56.993 products that you find in the assistive tech marketplace tend to be very 00:37:56.993 --> 00:38:02.035 expensive. And when you look at it, it could be as simple as just like a button, 00:38:02.035 --> 00:38:07.234 which you just press the button and something happens and the button itself 00:38:07.234 --> 00:38:12.692 costs like sixty five dollars. And it doesn't quite make sense to me that this 00:38:12.692 --> 00:38:17.652 is a good thing, but that is what you will find in the marketplace. So to answer the 00:38:17.652 --> 00:38:23.526 question. I think frugal tech or frugal innovation is to sort of think outside the 00:38:23.526 --> 00:38:30.783 box of the normal, or at least the established workflow of making a product 00:38:30.783 --> 00:38:37.716 that is this expensive to take the end price or the user perspective as the 00:38:37.716 --> 00:38:43.680 starting point and then figure out the value chain from behind it are the cost of 00:38:43.680 --> 00:38:48.492 production from from that point on with an inner makerspace that happens all the 00:38:48.492 --> 00:38:52.450 time. You are working with things that you're not entirely sure of. So instead of 00:38:52.450 --> 00:38:56.293 starting with something really, really expensive, you start with something that 00:38:56.293 --> 00:39:00.504 is cheap and cheerful, something that you can have lots of. If you break one, that's 00:39:00.504 --> 00:39:04.223 OK, you can always try it on another one. And then when you're confident with that, 00:39:04.223 --> 00:39:09.330 you translate what you've learned into something that's a little bit expensive. 00:39:09.330 --> 00:39:15.595 So that I think Approach speaks to, I think, what people are calling now frugal 00:39:15.595 --> 00:39:20.114 tech or frugal innovation. aprica: Oh, my very short answer would 00:39:20.114 --> 00:39:27.200 have been that just low cost, because that's the easiest I would be able to come 00:39:27.200 --> 00:39:32.980 up with, but that's way more colorful now. I hope for everybody. laugh 00:39:32.980 --> 00:39:40.707 Herald: Yes, and thank you for the great explanation. The next question we have is 00:39:40.707 --> 00:39:47.101 how does this movement or how do you include people who are not that interested 00:39:47.101 --> 00:39:52.169 in politics or the political side of making and just want to build cool stuff? 00:39:52.169 --> 00:39:56.089 both laughing aprica: How do you do that in Singapore? 00:39:56.089 --> 00:40:01.794 Well, it's very easy because, you know, the political scene in Singapore is quite, 00:40:01.794 --> 00:40:06.543 how shall we put this? Not very exciting. And I don't really care much for politics 00:40:06.543 --> 00:40:11.413 either. Whether it be like, you know, at the government level, our internal 00:40:11.413 --> 00:40:16.912 politics within large companies, I just I just don't have the mental capacity for 00:40:16.912 --> 00:40:24.440 wrap my head around that. So I really like to just do things. And I find that with a 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:30.584 physical thing, it's easier to talk about something. It sort of crystallizes what 00:40:30.584 --> 00:40:37.332 your your ideas are, even if the thing is made out of Post-it notes or cardboard or, 00:40:37.332 --> 00:40:46.440 you know, cable ties and duct tape. It just having that little physical, tangible 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:55.055 prototype helps focus the attention on the thing that you're trying to solve. So the 00:40:55.055 --> 00:41:01.738 conversation I find becomes solution oriented rather than ideological process 00:41:01.738 --> 00:41:08.040 or about manufacturing principles or design ideologies or even good ones. So I 00:41:08.040 --> 00:41:14.362 find that it's not I mean, it didn't work all the time, but having something 00:41:14.362 --> 00:41:19.583 tangible really helps to sort of bring that point back to the solution that 00:41:19.583 --> 00:41:23.835 you're talking about. aprica: Yeah, yeah. And adding to that, 00:41:23.835 --> 00:41:29.085 there's always like so many different levels of politics. So maybe you're not 00:41:29.085 --> 00:41:33.846 interested in global or national or whatever politics, but you're still 00:41:33.846 --> 00:41:40.040 interested to help your own community around you. So if you look at, I don't 00:41:40.040 --> 00:41:47.748 know, sensors for airquality or if you look at providing free public Wi-Fi for 00:41:47.748 --> 00:41:53.871 people or all these things are very political in one way and very much not 00:41:53.871 --> 00:42:00.040 very political in another way, like depending on how you want to look at them. 00:42:00.040 --> 00:42:06.246 So. So I think there will be like areas to contribute for anyone, like whether it's 00:42:06.246 --> 00:42:13.176 for their own grandma or whether it's for like a whole school class. In the end, 00:42:13.176 --> 00:42:20.225 that's not so important. Herald: OK. Very interesting. So I think 00:42:20.225 --> 00:42:27.137 now our time for Q&A is almost over. So I want to thank both of you again for having 00:42:27.137 --> 00:42:33.378 this really interesting talk here at our X-Hain stage. And I want to thank all of 00:42:33.378 --> 00:42:40.652 you us for watching. And our next talk will happen in a bit more than an hour at 00:42:40.652 --> 00:42:46.960 16:00. It's the car's audio. It's 407 reverse engineering kochen, nähen break 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.126 points, and I hope we'll see you all there. 00:42:51.126 --> 00:42:58.474 aprica: And maybe I'm sorry, Tony commercial if you're still there. Go to 00:42:58.474 --> 00:43:06.652 the open hardware. Happy hour and also go to on the last day to the prototype and 00:43:06.652 --> 00:43:11.285 hardware announcements. So don't miss that. 00:43:11.285 --> 00:43:23.142 RC3 postroll music 00:43:23.142 --> 00:43:30.401 Subtitles created by many many volunteers and the c3subtitles.de team. Join us, and help us!