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Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text
Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.36,0:00:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(ambient electronic music)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.55,0:00:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(tapping bowl)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.21,0:00:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every human being should know what the sun\Nis,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.38,0:00:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't have to explain to somebody what\Nthe sun is,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.72,0:00:27.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't want to explain to somebody what\Npollen is.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.86,0:00:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is something which I sifted it there\Nto enjoy it and share it with many people,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.12,0:00:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not my task to explain this.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.62,0:00:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the secret and the beauty\Nand the power and the potential of all this.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.24,0:00:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(tapping sifter)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.84,0:00:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, the pollen is the beginning\Nof the life of the plants and not less.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.18,0:01:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pollen has an incredible color,\Nbut it's not a pigment for a painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.45,0:01:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the pollen I collect is in the close vicinity\Nof the village where we live in southern Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.90,0:01:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the most beautiful is the dandelion pollen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.11,0:01:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you sit days and days in a dandelion\Nmeadow,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.99,0:01:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's an incredible experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.45,0:01:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's something totally different\Nthan what our society thinks
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.30,0:01:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what you should do or what you should achieve\Nin an hour or in a day or in a week or in
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.80,0:01:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a month.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.95,0:01:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(tapping sifter)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.21,0:01:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pollen piece at MOMA was pollen from hazelnut.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.38,0:01:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They blossom in very early spring.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.78,0:01:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For one month about, I can collect one jar\Nof pollen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.46,0:02:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pollen which was here at MOMA\Nwas from the early '90s to last year.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.76,0:02:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(tapping sifter)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.29,0:02:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about 15 to 18 seasons.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.27,0:02:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was by far the biggest pollen piece I\Never made.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.78,0:02:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other pollen pieces I made\Nwere like one-quarter of this piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.44,0:02:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father worked as a doctor\Nin a small town in southern Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.03,0:02:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was this one friend, Jakob Braeckle\Nis his name,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.81,0:02:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was this artist from a local town.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.43,0:02:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was the only friend of my parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.36,0:02:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He showed my parents many things\Nwhich somehow became very important
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.08,0:02:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for our family and for myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.76,0:02:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think this glass house which my parents\Nbuilt
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.54,0:02:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which we are still living in
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.83,0:03:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow wouldn't have been possible without\Nhim.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.36,0:03:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had an incredible, beautiful relationship.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.38,0:03:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the main influence was\Nhe was very interested in Chinese philosophy
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.36,0:03:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Laozi and Brancusi.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.93,0:03:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was 15, I could remember by heart\Nall chapters of the Tao Te Ching.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.33,0:03:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My favorite chapter was one, number one, and\Nnumber 25.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.61,0:03:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This exhibition at Sperone Westwater,\Nthe space is a very difficult space.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.28,0:03:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not an easy space.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.11,0:03:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very interesting space.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.85,0:03:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I found a very beautiful solution,\Nto use two floors with an old work, with beeswax
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.89,0:03:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ziggurats,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.05,0:03:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then combine it with new work,\Nwith all these brass ships.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.27,0:03:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This installation was for me the first time\NI did something like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.30,0:04:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Test the integrity of all this, it's like\None piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.82,0:04:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My beeswax step pyramids which I made,\NI give the title Ziggurat,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.74,0:04:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which refers to Mesopotamian step pyramids.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.57,0:04:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, it was always very beautiful\Nthat you can do something today in the 21st
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.00,0:04:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,century
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.00,0:04:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is not an imitation\Nbut which has a connection to art which is
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.64,0:04:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4,000 years old.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.86,0:04:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: what is the boats actually made\Nout of?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.01,0:04:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Brass.\N— Brass?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.33,0:04:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Brass, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.33,0:04:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They actually brass boats?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.61,0:04:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brass, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.02,0:04:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.71,0:04:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.23,0:04:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very simple brass.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.74,0:04:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right, right, right, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.51,0:04:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the tips?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.63,0:04:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even like even like the tip?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.57,0:05:00.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, yeah, it's one piece which I just folded.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.17,0:05:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.67,0:05:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not welded, nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.84,0:05:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like paper folding.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.61,0:05:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah, got you.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.87,0:05:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, how did you get the brass to bend like\Nthat?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.77,0:05:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I did that.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.17,0:05:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You did it?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.67,0:05:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I made all the ships myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.00,0:05:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah, got you.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.00,0:05:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once in in high school, I wrote like a 10-page\Nthing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.12,0:05:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about Brancusi, and it was about Laozi.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.67,0:05:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the teacher came, and in front of the\Nwhole class,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.24,0:05:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said, "Wolfgang, you really cheat.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.75,0:05:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had the Laozi lying there under your table.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.81,0:05:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't believe this."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.43,0:05:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I got really upset,\Nand then he said, "And who is this Brancusi?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.74,0:05:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know who this is."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.03,0:05:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.03,0:05:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Who is this?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.03,0:05:45.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never heard about this man."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.13,0:05:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I then I stood up\Nand somehow by heart, in front of the whole
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.36,0:05:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,class,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.38,0:05:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recited the whole chapters out loud.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.72,0:05:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got so emotional.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.96,0:06:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I look back, it was already this very\Nstrong strive
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.80,0:06:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for something totally different.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.40,0:06:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pollen is far from the other works,\Nbut still, I feel in such a major exhibition,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.03,0:06:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a gallery,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.23,0:06:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very beautiful to have the shelf of pollen\Njars there.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.93,0:06:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is beech.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.88,0:06:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is pine.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.88,0:06:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is hazelnut, the same which is now at\NMOMA.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.25,0:06:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is from moss, a very fine...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.85,0:06:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an extremely fine...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.26,0:06:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's nearly like a liquid, so fine, it really\Nfalls.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.30,0:06:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's also very good.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.22,0:06:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Smell it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.94,0:06:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, my father had this incredible interest\Nin art,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.61,0:07:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then, towards his midlife, it was a real\Ncrisis for him.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.61,0:07:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had begun to paint\Nand made really very beautiful white paintings.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.94,0:07:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then for him, of course,\Nit was impossible to become an artist,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.72,0:07:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there was a real tension.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.11,0:07:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for myself, I was then a teenager,\Nand not like a normal teenager who would oppose
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.11,0:07:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.50,0:07:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was following everything what my parents\Ndid.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.66,0:07:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we only lived three years in this\Nglass house,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.03,0:07:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then there was this travel to Turkey.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.18,0:07:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People in small villages invited us into their\Nhomes,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.18,0:07:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simple houses with rooms totally empty, with\Nsome pillows,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.85,0:07:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my parents came home, and all the furniture\Ndisappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.62,0:07:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The main thing was that we wanted to have\Nonly the art
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.17,0:08:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a space and not to be disturbed by anything\Nelse.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.70,0:08:08.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The beginning of the '60s,\Nmy father saw these books about Indian tantric
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.27,0:08:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,art.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.63,0:08:15.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was somehow so struck by the drawings,\Nwhich looked like a Mondrian, but were like
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.77,0:08:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,400 years old.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.20,0:08:21.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he said, "I want to see this country\Nwhere this is coming from."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.98,0:08:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this was actually the reason\Nfor the first travel to India of my parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.92,0:08:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we, my sister and I, we were like 15 years\Nold.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.29,0:08:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,India is overwhelming.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.06,0:08:39.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's for everybody overwhelming.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.04,0:08:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I remember the first night in Delhi,\Nwe arrived like five o'clock, and then we
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.17,0:08:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took a walk.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.87,0:08:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could not walk on the sidewalk.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.16,0:08:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was people were lying there, like one after\Nthe next.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.27,0:08:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looked like a cemetery.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.53,0:09:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents began to weep.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.35,0:09:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was a real emotional experience on every\Nlevel
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.38,0:09:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then seeing all this artworks and all\Nthis architecture
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.81,0:09:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also the human existence, which was even\Nmuch more...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.51,0:09:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the deepest experience, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.33,0:09:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents began to support a village in south\NIndia.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.72,0:09:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have this studio now there some years.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.09,0:09:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People always think that I became a Buddhist,\Nwhich is not true at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.38,0:09:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I chose not to enter a monastery.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.18,0:09:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I became an artist,\Nand art is about not knowing where you are
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.74,0:09:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.83,0:09:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(tapping tub)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.89,0:09:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very interested in art when I was in\Nhigh school.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.11,0:10:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, artists were like semi-gods,\Nand when I met then some artists
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.02,0:10:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was for me such a shock (laughs)\Nand to the other way that I began to study
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.22,0:10:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medicine
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.01,0:10:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all the ideals you can have as a doctor,\Nto save mankind and humanity.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.18,0:10:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In German university, you can go to any lecture\Nyou want,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.86,0:10:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I went to philosophy and psychology and\Npsychiatry,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.32,0:10:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was searching, searching.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.59,0:10:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't imagine to go write a thesis in\Na lab.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.31,0:10:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I found a professor who said,\N"If you have really a good idea
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.88,0:10:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is totally independent."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.25,0:10:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I asked him if I could write a thesis\Non the hygiene of drinking water in south India,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.36,0:10:48.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would give me a total freedom\Nfrom all this kind of thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.74,0:10:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Go ahead.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.94,0:10:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do it well, there's no problem."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.47,0:10:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what I did.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.59,0:11:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I went to all these villages\Naround the village which my parents supported
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.03,0:11:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stayed there for half a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.64,0:11:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was somehow when I came back,\Nit was such a intense experience that I...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.52,0:11:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I began to carve this brahmanda, this\Negg.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.49,0:11:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Brahmanda" means "the egg of Brahma,"\Nso it's like a universal egg.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.30,0:11:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The beginning of the universe, that was the\Nidea.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.07,0:11:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made this work in 1972.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.53,0:11:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a boulder from nearby, from a quarry.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.25,0:11:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very hard stone, and I worked here\Non top of this small hill near the forest
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.82,0:11:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for three months.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.41,0:11:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a very intense time,\Nthinking of what I want to do with my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.36,0:11:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, when it was finished, just before\NChristmas,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.79,0:11:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody thought I would never come back\Nto the university.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.91,0:11:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All my friends, they called, and,\N"Where is Wolfgang?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.88,0:11:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is he doing?"
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.20,0:12:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, when this was finished,\NI said to myself and to my parents
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.40,0:12:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I would not become a doctor.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.50,0:12:10.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really wanted to become an artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.84,0:12:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I would finish my medical studies,\Nwhich would take another two years.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.94,0:12:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From 1972 until '74,\Nwhen I then finally left the university,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.44,0:12:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these two years were so important for me,\Nwas, I think, the most difficult time in my life,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.53,0:12:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where all this tension built up,\Nand then, only like half a year later,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.40,0:12:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made the first milkstone.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.24,0:12:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(milk pouring)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.74,0:13:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first milkstone was the direct answer\Nto what I had seen at the university and in
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.57,0:13:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hospitals.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.76,0:13:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm still amazed that I could give such a\Ndirect answer
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.91,0:13:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with such an artwork.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.18,0:13:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How temporary milk is and how \Neternal a stone is.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.87,0:14:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Art is, for me, also that it can have these\Nconnections
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.08,0:14:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over many centuries or thousands of years.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.04,0:14:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always thought about beeswax.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.75,0:14:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very close to pollen.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.47,0:14:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first wax pieces were very small works.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.47,0:14:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to have just only beeswax,\Nbut then, of course, it's not stable really.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.38,0:14:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not an easy, practical thing to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.36,0:14:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I work from the inside, and somehow,\NI had to have my head inside these small pieces,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.95,0:14:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I remember this experience\Nof just having only your head inside.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.31,0:14:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What an incredible experience this was,\Nand I had really the idea to make a space
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.73,0:14:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which not only your head is inside,\Nthat your body is inside,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.75,0:14:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just surrounded by beeswax and nothing else.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.07,0:15:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The beginning of the beeswax spaces I made\Nwere for exhibitions, so it's a different
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.27,0:15:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technique
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.04,0:15:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I made slabs which you can install.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.32,0:15:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one which I made now at the Phillips,\Nthey can be permanent,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.32,0:15:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I put the wax directly on the wall,\Nand it's like one piece, and you cannot remove it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.47,0:15:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My smallest wax room I ever made.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.88,0:15:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's a more intense experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.24,0:15:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The aroma of the beeswax has a deep feeling.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.42,0:15:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like going into a cave or going into\Nanother world.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.88,0:15:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the beeswax is in the dark,\Nit doesn't have this golden glow,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.98,0:15:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's a very simple way of having this\Ngolden glow,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.27,0:15:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with just a simple light bulb,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.87,0:16:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that gives this yellowish light on\Nthe beeswax,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.26,0:16:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which has a connection to the medieval paintings,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.56,0:16:05.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the golden background.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.45,0:16:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I began these works in this small village\Nin southern Germany for myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.22,0:16:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was 27 or so, and I had the first pollen jars.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.22,0:16:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had the first milkstones.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.45,0:16:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt this is the most important thing in\Nthe world.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.61,0:16:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This will change the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.26,0:16:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was extremely naive.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.47,0:16:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had this strive to show this as soon as\Npossible
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.08,0:16:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to as many people as possible in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.44,0:16:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(visitors chattering)
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.56,0:17:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My idea of exhibitions in showing this was\Nabout this.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.72,0:17:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt this is the essence of life\Nand this is something which holds the world
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.01,0:17:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.91,0:17:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was not about becoming a famous artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.51,0:17:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really, I felt, this is what I searched\Nin medicine
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.82,0:17:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and somehow I did not find it in the medical\Nscience.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.90,0:17:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel I never changed my profession.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.34,0:17:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did with these things what I wanted to do\Nas a doctor.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.00,0:17:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(visitors chattering)
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.67,0:18:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(ambient electronic music)
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