1 00:00:01,071 --> 00:00:02,221 How y'all doing? 2 00:00:02,881 --> 00:00:04,111 Good. 3 00:00:04,135 --> 00:00:06,920 I came here to give you a science lesson 4 00:00:06,944 --> 00:00:09,006 about animal mating systems 5 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:13,614 and why defining monogamy has been a challenge for scientists. 6 00:00:13,934 --> 00:00:17,046 But you won't need a textbook or to download an online lecture. 7 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:22,283 All you'll simply need to do is revisit the song "OPP" 8 00:00:22,307 --> 00:00:23,712 by Naughty by Nature. 9 00:00:23,736 --> 00:00:24,926 (Laughter) 10 00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:27,211 It was released in 1991. 11 00:00:28,808 --> 00:00:31,493 Now, "OPP" is a call-and-response song. 12 00:00:31,815 --> 00:00:35,649 So throughout the talk, I'm going to put lyrics up on the screen, 13 00:00:35,673 --> 00:00:37,063 and I'm going to recite some 14 00:00:37,087 --> 00:00:38,450 and I'm going to prompt you 15 00:00:38,474 --> 00:00:40,644 when it's your turn to do the response, OK? 16 00:00:40,668 --> 00:00:41,921 (Cheers) 17 00:00:41,945 --> 00:00:44,580 Now, I know some people in this audience know this song, 18 00:00:44,604 --> 00:00:47,429 so I need you to lead the way with the tempo and the rhythm, 19 00:00:47,453 --> 00:00:48,857 if that's alright, OK? 20 00:00:48,881 --> 00:00:50,071 Right, y'all ready? 21 00:00:50,974 --> 00:00:52,321 You down with OPP? 22 00:00:52,345 --> 00:00:53,712 Audience: Yeah, you know me! 23 00:00:53,736 --> 00:00:55,119 DNL: You down with OPP? 24 00:00:55,143 --> 00:00:56,498 Audience: Yeah, you know me! 25 00:00:56,522 --> 00:00:57,777 DNL: You down with OPP? 26 00:00:57,791 --> 00:00:59,133 Audience: Yeah, you know me! 27 00:00:59,157 --> 00:01:00,355 DNL: That was perfect. 28 00:01:00,379 --> 00:01:01,529 Thank you. 29 00:01:02,768 --> 00:01:04,450 "OPP, how can I explain it? 30 00:01:04,474 --> 00:01:05,982 I'll take it frame by frame it. 31 00:01:06,006 --> 00:01:08,045 To have y'all jumping shout and singing it 32 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:10,823 O is for other, P is for people. scratch your temple. 33 00:01:10,847 --> 00:01:13,355 The last P, well, that's not that simple." 34 00:01:13,379 --> 00:01:17,069 Now, in the song, the MC hints that it's a five-letter word, 35 00:01:17,093 --> 00:01:18,704 but to keep it rated PG, 36 00:01:18,728 --> 00:01:21,553 he simply refers to it as "property." 37 00:01:21,983 --> 00:01:23,133 (Laughter) 38 00:01:23,157 --> 00:01:26,466 The song is about cheating on your significant other. 39 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:30,633 Now, around the time that this song was in heavy rotation, 40 00:01:30,657 --> 00:01:35,974 biologists were in deep discussion about whether bird species, 41 00:01:35,998 --> 00:01:41,246 notably songbirds and waterfowl were actually monogamous or not. 42 00:01:41,831 --> 00:01:45,117 See, for decades, generations of science students 43 00:01:45,141 --> 00:01:49,131 were taught that well over 90 percent of the bird species were monogamous. 44 00:01:49,657 --> 00:01:52,723 A male and female mating faithfully for life. 45 00:01:53,419 --> 00:01:55,672 That was until the late 1980s, 46 00:01:55,696 --> 00:01:58,490 when a new laboratory technique came on the scene, 47 00:01:58,514 --> 00:02:02,522 which could copy DNA from a small tissue or fluid sample 48 00:02:02,546 --> 00:02:04,641 and decode the genetics of individuals. 49 00:02:05,046 --> 00:02:07,109 Now, before that technique, 50 00:02:07,133 --> 00:02:09,378 we were never ever certain about, 51 00:02:09,402 --> 00:02:12,245 100 percent, who the parents of baby birds were. 52 00:02:12,744 --> 00:02:14,482 All we had were our field notes. 53 00:02:14,792 --> 00:02:17,164 And we would know which adults lived in a nest 54 00:02:17,188 --> 00:02:19,323 and which ones fed the baby birds. 55 00:02:20,085 --> 00:02:25,704 Well, come to find out, study after study kept coming in 56 00:02:25,728 --> 00:02:29,286 and we found so much evidence of infidelity -- 57 00:02:29,310 --> 00:02:30,658 (Laughter) 58 00:02:30,682 --> 00:02:32,048 among bird species, 59 00:02:32,072 --> 00:02:33,463 particularly these songbirds 60 00:02:33,487 --> 00:02:36,075 that we thought were the pinnacle of monogamy. 61 00:02:36,445 --> 00:02:39,783 It would have made Maury Povich jealous for the ratings. 62 00:02:39,807 --> 00:02:42,180 (Laughter) 63 00:02:42,538 --> 00:02:45,831 It rocked biology and ornithology so hard, 64 00:02:45,855 --> 00:02:50,053 we had to modify and expand the entire definition of monogamy. 65 00:02:50,974 --> 00:02:54,657 Now, it was so bad that this was the headline 66 00:02:54,681 --> 00:02:57,172 of the "New York Times" science section, 67 00:02:57,196 --> 00:02:58,958 August, 1990. 68 00:02:59,427 --> 00:03:02,381 "Mating for Life? It's not for the Birds or the Bees." 69 00:03:02,405 --> 00:03:04,237 (Laughter) 70 00:03:04,261 --> 00:03:07,173 We had to come up with new definitions. 71 00:03:07,538 --> 00:03:11,204 The situation where an individual would change partners, 72 00:03:11,228 --> 00:03:13,057 either between breeding seasons 73 00:03:13,081 --> 00:03:16,394 or just simply because they didn't like their partner anymore? 74 00:03:16,418 --> 00:03:18,618 We now call this "serial monogamy." 75 00:03:18,941 --> 00:03:23,791 (Laughter) 76 00:03:23,815 --> 00:03:25,894 I didn't know it was going to be this funny. 77 00:03:25,918 --> 00:03:27,865 (Laughter) 78 00:03:28,283 --> 00:03:32,783 The situation where we know the male and female pair together 79 00:03:32,807 --> 00:03:35,355 and all the babies belong to both partners? 80 00:03:35,379 --> 00:03:37,346 We call that "genetic monogamy." 81 00:03:37,370 --> 00:03:39,815 And we now recognize that it only holds true 82 00:03:39,839 --> 00:03:43,966 for about 14 percent of the songbird species, 83 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:47,070 which we were very certain were truly monogamous. 84 00:03:47,831 --> 00:03:49,569 And with this reclassification, 85 00:03:49,593 --> 00:03:52,343 we realized that in a lot of those field observations 86 00:03:52,367 --> 00:03:55,481 where we saw a male and female sharing a nest, 87 00:03:55,505 --> 00:04:00,021 comaintaining a territory, even provisioning offspring together, 88 00:04:00,045 --> 00:04:04,560 often included a few baby birds that did not belong to the male partner. 89 00:04:05,925 --> 00:04:08,288 We call this "social monogamy." 90 00:04:08,312 --> 00:04:10,732 (Laughter) 91 00:04:10,756 --> 00:04:13,066 And the mechanism responsible? 92 00:04:13,090 --> 00:04:15,557 Extra-pair copulation. 93 00:04:17,660 --> 00:04:20,370 "It's OPP, time for other people's what you get it 94 00:04:20,394 --> 00:04:23,206 there's no room for relationship, there's just room to ..." 95 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:24,381 Audience: "Hit it!" 96 00:04:24,405 --> 00:04:27,234 "How many brothers out there know just what I'm getting at? 97 00:04:27,258 --> 00:04:30,404 Who thinks it's wrong because I was splitting and cohitting that. 98 00:04:30,754 --> 00:04:33,785 Well if you do, that's OPP" 99 00:04:34,238 --> 00:04:35,777 Actually, that's EPC 100 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:40,572 Which is the abbreviation for extra-pair copulation. 101 00:04:40,596 --> 00:04:42,888 (Laughter) 102 00:04:42,912 --> 00:04:47,720 Now, we define extra-pair copulation as the mating outside of a pair bond. 103 00:04:48,119 --> 00:04:50,434 And just like we were discovering via science, 104 00:04:50,458 --> 00:04:54,085 it can lead to babies that don't belong to the male partner. 105 00:04:54,109 --> 00:04:55,264 Alright? 106 00:04:55,288 --> 00:04:58,942 Now, I first learned about EPCs years later, 107 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:02,029 after all the science news broke while I was in graduate school. 108 00:05:02,403 --> 00:05:04,703 And as we were taking a class, 109 00:05:04,727 --> 00:05:07,601 talking about current discoveries and mating systems, 110 00:05:07,625 --> 00:05:09,403 this topic comes up. 111 00:05:09,855 --> 00:05:12,459 And as my professor's going through the definition 112 00:05:12,483 --> 00:05:15,292 and recounting all the dramatic turns of events 113 00:05:15,316 --> 00:05:17,482 that lead to these new revelations, 114 00:05:17,506 --> 00:05:21,109 I'm sitting in class and a familiar song starts bopping in my head. 115 00:05:21,133 --> 00:05:22,768 I'm like, "You down with OPP? 116 00:05:22,792 --> 00:05:24,323 Yeah, you know me!" 117 00:05:24,347 --> 00:05:25,966 (Laughter) 118 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:29,799 I mean, that's exactly what that song was about: 119 00:05:29,823 --> 00:05:30,973 EPCs. 120 00:05:31,355 --> 00:05:33,182 And what I recognized 121 00:05:33,206 --> 00:05:36,847 is that this gives us an opportunity to revisit this song. 122 00:05:36,871 --> 00:05:38,671 Let's switch the lyrics up. 123 00:05:39,815 --> 00:05:41,569 So say EPC. 124 00:05:41,593 --> 00:05:42,751 Audience: EPC. 125 00:05:42,775 --> 00:05:44,289 DNL: Say it, EPC! 126 00:05:44,313 --> 00:05:45,464 Audience: EPC! 127 00:05:45,488 --> 00:05:46,855 "I like to say it with pride 128 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,855 now, when you do it, do it well, and make sure that it counts. 129 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:51,498 You're not down with a discount." 130 00:05:51,522 --> 00:05:52,720 You down with EPC? 131 00:05:52,744 --> 00:05:56,026 Audience: Yeah, you know me! 132 00:05:56,050 --> 00:05:59,534 Now, I had always been playing songs in my head 133 00:05:59,558 --> 00:06:01,534 while I was in science class, 134 00:06:01,558 --> 00:06:05,136 kind of tapping into this index of pop culture and hip-hop songs. 135 00:06:05,585 --> 00:06:08,871 But when I would share my analogies with my science professors, 136 00:06:08,895 --> 00:06:10,823 all of whom were older white men, 137 00:06:10,847 --> 00:06:15,585 I often got blank and confused stares as responses. 138 00:06:15,609 --> 00:06:17,792 (Laughter) 139 00:06:17,816 --> 00:06:21,712 But when I would share this with people from communities like mine, 140 00:06:21,736 --> 00:06:24,950 or other colleagues -- so, diverse communities -- 141 00:06:24,974 --> 00:06:27,441 this hip-hop science remix was a hit. 142 00:06:27,871 --> 00:06:31,537 That's because I was either talking to people who looked and sounded like me, 143 00:06:31,561 --> 00:06:34,967 or at the very least, you know, listened to some of the same songs. 144 00:06:34,991 --> 00:06:37,791 We were sharing a common cultural lexicon. 145 00:06:38,346 --> 00:06:42,768 And with that lexicon, I was able to bring new science terms to them, 146 00:06:42,792 --> 00:06:48,653 and together, we were sharing a new comprehension of science for the culture. 147 00:06:49,649 --> 00:06:53,745 Now, hip-hop song references 148 00:06:53,769 --> 00:06:59,880 are a really good tool for teaching content to students from hip-hop culture 149 00:06:59,904 --> 00:07:01,333 or urban communities. 150 00:07:01,357 --> 00:07:04,537 And I use it intentionally to connect to those students, 151 00:07:04,561 --> 00:07:07,823 tapping into vocabulary that they already know 152 00:07:07,847 --> 00:07:10,580 and systems that they already comprehend. 153 00:07:11,228 --> 00:07:17,748 And what it does in that process is it ratifies them, us, our culture 154 00:07:17,772 --> 00:07:19,557 as knowledge purveyors. 155 00:07:20,691 --> 00:07:24,077 I use hip-hop to frame and communicate science 156 00:07:24,101 --> 00:07:28,601 because I'm intentionally communicating science to broader audiences 157 00:07:28,625 --> 00:07:33,315 that public science outreach has traditionally overlooked. 158 00:07:34,427 --> 00:07:36,316 And in the process, 159 00:07:36,340 --> 00:07:39,308 I am affirming the genius 160 00:07:39,332 --> 00:07:43,347 that thrives in the young minds of people from every hood everywhere. 161 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:45,966 So let me ask you one last time, 162 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:47,395 you down with EPC? 163 00:07:47,419 --> 00:07:48,776 Audience: Yeah, you know me! 164 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,057 DNL: You down with EPC? 165 00:07:50,081 --> 00:07:51,420 Audience: Yeah, you know me! 166 00:07:51,444 --> 00:07:52,646 DNL: You down with EPC? 167 00:07:52,670 --> 00:07:54,030 Audience: Yeah, you know me! 168 00:07:54,054 --> 00:07:55,262 DNL: Who's down with EPC? 169 00:07:55,286 --> 00:07:57,362 Audience: All the homies! 170 00:07:57,698 --> 00:07:58,864 Thank you. 171 00:07:58,888 --> 00:08:03,277 (Applause and cheers)