WEBVTT 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:06.308 I was thinking today about the relationship between race and 00:00:06.308 --> 00:00:08.398 economic prosperity. 00:00:08.398 --> 00:00:12.472 >> [INAUDIBLE] that's interesting, and what were your thoughts on the matter? 00:00:12.472 --> 00:00:17.000 >> Well, I was thinking about how far we've come in the past hundred years since 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:22.712 the Fourteenth Amendment that just simply gave everyone protection under the law. 00:00:22.712 --> 00:00:26.910 It's almost insane to think that at one time in our country, 00:00:26.910 --> 00:00:28.890 people of color didn't have any rights. 00:00:28.890 --> 00:00:31.010 And they were even enslaved. 00:00:31.010 --> 00:00:34.650 >> And sadly, so yes, yeah, it is crazy. 00:00:34.650 --> 00:00:37.270 But it's also amazing how far we've come. 00:00:37.270 --> 00:00:38.510 But the thing is, 00:00:38.510 --> 00:00:43.360 there's still work that needs to be done to weed out the systemic racism. 00:00:43.360 --> 00:00:47.859 >> Do you really think systemic racism still exists in our country? 00:00:47.859 --> 00:00:51.802 >> Yeah, 100%, even if it's not as prevalent, 00:00:51.802 --> 00:00:56.510 we are still seeing the lasting effects of systemic racism. 00:00:56.510 --> 00:00:59.720 Just look at the areas where everyone still lives to this day. 00:00:59.720 --> 00:01:03.546 >> What do you mean where everyone still lives? 00:01:03.546 --> 00:01:08.417 >> Well, in the 1930s, using redlining was a tactic widely 00:01:08.417 --> 00:01:13.287 supported by the government to refuse people of color loans or 00:01:13.287 --> 00:01:16.659 financial help when trying to buy a house, 00:01:16.659 --> 00:01:21.470 more often than non-predominantly white neighborhoods. 00:01:21.470 --> 00:01:25.953 >> Yeah, it's like they took all these people, and 00:01:25.953 --> 00:01:32.912 they created the poverty and crime-filled ghettos that we still see today. 00:01:32.912 --> 00:01:37.974 >> Yeah, and then what made matters worse is the divide that was widened 00:01:37.974 --> 00:01:42.789 by Richard Nixon with his war on drugs campaign in the 1970s. 00:01:42.789 --> 00:01:45.570 >> Yeah. >> So people of color were often getting 00:01:45.570 --> 00:01:52.380 the maximum sentences for these petty non-violent crimes, whereas a white person 00:01:52.380 --> 00:01:57.236 would often get the minimum sentence on the same type of crime. 00:01:57.236 --> 00:02:02.850 >> Yeah, and some of the non-violent crimes like the ones involving marijuana, 00:02:02.850 --> 00:02:07.630 these people are still serving time today for offenses that are now decriminalized, 00:02:07.630 --> 00:02:10.410 and in some places, even recreationally legal. 00:02:10.410 --> 00:02:12.770 >> Yeah, people are making money off of it. 00:02:12.770 --> 00:02:17.120 So when we think about it, and what had been done to people of color, 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:20.810 it's really just a sense of legalized slavery. 00:02:20.810 --> 00:02:24.120 >> Yeah, it's like you take this demographic of people, 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:27.210 you limit them to impoverished neighborhoods. 00:02:27.210 --> 00:02:31.430 You make no effort to properly fund their education, 00:02:31.430 --> 00:02:36.060 then you give them maximum sentencing when they finally turn into a life of crime. 00:02:36.060 --> 00:02:39.210 Because that's the only way they see themselves actually rising above their 00:02:39.210 --> 00:02:40.340 station. 00:02:40.340 --> 00:02:45.705 >> Yeah, and then with the level of mass incarceration against men of color, 00:02:45.705 --> 00:02:48.431 specifically African American men, 00:02:48.431 --> 00:02:53.899 you have to consider how many families have been broken and torn apart by it. 00:02:53.899 --> 00:02:58.667 And countless kids that no longer have a father figure, or any parents, 00:02:58.667 --> 00:03:03.540 or advice, or guidance, uninevitably, they lead down that same path. 00:03:03.540 --> 00:03:07.330 >> Yeah, I agree, it's like a never-ending cycle. 00:03:07.330 --> 00:03:12.306 And I guess my question is, how do you think we fix this? 00:03:12.306 --> 00:03:16.160 >> Well, I think it starts with everyone joining and 00:03:16.160 --> 00:03:20.016 participating their own civic duty and voting and 00:03:20.016 --> 00:03:25.365 becoming involved in their local communities and local elections. 00:03:25.365 --> 00:03:29.703 For so long, I think there is this form of cynicism around voting, 00:03:29.703 --> 00:03:33.900 making people believe that their vote really doesn't matter. 00:03:35.660 --> 00:03:41.560 >> Yeah, I agree, I will say that seems like now more people than ever, 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:43.200 especially young people and 00:03:43.200 --> 00:03:47.940 people of color, are getting involved in politics and going out and voting. 00:03:47.940 --> 00:03:51.840 And I think social media has a big role to play in that as well. 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:56.060 >> Yeah, social media has definitely taken everything by storm. 00:03:56.060 --> 00:04:01.190 And I agree, I think we're on the path to hopefully eliminating these 00:04:01.190 --> 00:04:06.610 systemic racism, problems, and prejudice from future generations. 00:04:06.610 --> 00:04:09.020 We just have to keep participating and 00:04:09.020 --> 00:04:12.780 educating those that aren't given a fair shot at having a voice. 00:04:13.860 --> 00:04:17.050 >> So what do you think is the first step 00:04:17.050 --> 00:04:20.660 to getting to a place where everyone has their own voice? 00:04:22.540 --> 00:04:24.120 >> Having conversations like these. 00:04:25.890 --> 00:04:26.390 >> Yeah.