1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,308 I was thinking today about the relationship between race and 2 00:00:06,308 --> 00:00:08,398 economic prosperity. 3 00:00:08,398 --> 00:00:12,472 >> [INAUDIBLE] that's interesting, and what were your thoughts on the matter? 4 00:00:12,472 --> 00:00:17,000 >> Well, I was thinking about how far we've come in the past hundred years since 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,712 the Fourteenth Amendment that just simply gave everyone protection under the law. 6 00:00:22,712 --> 00:00:26,910 It's almost insane to think that at one time in our country, 7 00:00:26,910 --> 00:00:28,890 people of color didn't have any rights. 8 00:00:28,890 --> 00:00:31,010 And they were even enslaved. 9 00:00:31,010 --> 00:00:34,650 >> And sadly, so yes, yeah, it is crazy. 10 00:00:34,650 --> 00:00:37,270 But it's also amazing how far we've come. 11 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:38,510 But the thing is, 12 00:00:38,510 --> 00:00:43,360 there's still work that needs to be done to weed out the systemic racism. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,859 >> Do you really think systemic racism still exists in our country? 14 00:00:47,859 --> 00:00:51,802 >> Yeah, 100%, even if it's not as prevalent, 15 00:00:51,802 --> 00:00:56,510 we are still seeing the lasting effects of systemic racism. 16 00:00:56,510 --> 00:00:59,720 Just look at the areas where everyone still lives to this day. 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,546 >> What do you mean where everyone still lives? 18 00:01:03,546 --> 00:01:08,417 >> Well, in the 1930s, using redlining was a tactic widely 19 00:01:08,417 --> 00:01:13,287 supported by the government to refuse people of color loans or 20 00:01:13,287 --> 00:01:16,659 financial help when trying to buy a house, 21 00:01:16,659 --> 00:01:21,470 more often than non-predominantly white neighborhoods. 22 00:01:21,470 --> 00:01:25,953 >> Yeah, it's like they took all these people, and 23 00:01:25,953 --> 00:01:32,912 they created the poverty and crime-filled ghettos that we still see today. 24 00:01:32,912 --> 00:01:37,974 >> Yeah, and then what made matters worse is the divide that was widened 25 00:01:37,974 --> 00:01:42,789 by Richard Nixon with his war on drugs campaign in the 1970s. 26 00:01:42,789 --> 00:01:45,570 >> Yeah. >> So people of color were often getting 27 00:01:45,570 --> 00:01:52,380 the maximum sentences for these petty non-violent crimes, whereas a white person 28 00:01:52,380 --> 00:01:57,236 would often get the minimum sentence on the same type of crime. 29 00:01:57,236 --> 00:02:02,850 >> Yeah, and some of the non-violent crimes like the ones involving marijuana, 30 00:02:02,850 --> 00:02:07,630 these people are still serving time today for offenses that are now decriminalized, 31 00:02:07,630 --> 00:02:10,410 and in some places, even recreationally legal. 32 00:02:10,410 --> 00:02:12,770 >> Yeah, people are making money off of it. 33 00:02:12,770 --> 00:02:17,120 So when we think about it, and what had been done to people of color, 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,810 it's really just a sense of legalized slavery. 35 00:02:20,810 --> 00:02:24,120 >> Yeah, it's like you take this demographic of people, 36 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,210 you limit them to impoverished neighborhoods. 37 00:02:27,210 --> 00:02:31,430 You make no effort to properly fund their education, 38 00:02:31,430 --> 00:02:36,060 then you give them maximum sentencing when they finally turn into a life of crime. 39 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:39,210 Because that's the only way they see themselves actually rising above their 40 00:02:39,210 --> 00:02:40,340 station. 41 00:02:40,340 --> 00:02:45,705 >> Yeah, and then with the level of mass incarceration against men of color, 42 00:02:45,705 --> 00:02:48,431 specifically African American men, 43 00:02:48,431 --> 00:02:53,899 you have to consider how many families have been broken and torn apart by it. 44 00:02:53,899 --> 00:02:58,667 And countless kids that no longer have a father figure, or any parents, 45 00:02:58,667 --> 00:03:03,540 or advice, or guidance, uninevitably, they lead down that same path. 46 00:03:03,540 --> 00:03:07,330 >> Yeah, I agree, it's like a never-ending cycle. 47 00:03:07,330 --> 00:03:12,306 And I guess my question is, how do you think we fix this? 48 00:03:12,306 --> 00:03:16,160 >> Well, I think it starts with everyone joining and 49 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,016 participating their own civic duty and voting and 50 00:03:20,016 --> 00:03:25,365 becoming involved in their local communities and local elections. 51 00:03:25,365 --> 00:03:29,703 For so long, I think there is this form of cynicism around voting, 52 00:03:29,703 --> 00:03:33,900 making people believe that their vote really doesn't matter. 53 00:03:35,660 --> 00:03:41,560 >> Yeah, I agree, I will say that seems like now more people than ever, 54 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,200 especially young people and 55 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,940 people of color, are getting involved in politics and going out and voting. 56 00:03:47,940 --> 00:03:51,840 And I think social media has a big role to play in that as well. 57 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,060 >> Yeah, social media has definitely taken everything by storm. 58 00:03:56,060 --> 00:04:01,190 And I agree, I think we're on the path to hopefully eliminating these 59 00:04:01,190 --> 00:04:06,610 systemic racism, problems, and prejudice from future generations. 60 00:04:06,610 --> 00:04:09,020 We just have to keep participating and 61 00:04:09,020 --> 00:04:12,780 educating those that aren't given a fair shot at having a voice. 62 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:17,050 >> So what do you think is the first step 63 00:04:17,050 --> 00:04:20,660 to getting to a place where everyone has their own voice? 64 00:04:22,540 --> 00:04:24,120 >> Having conversations like these. 65 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:26,390 >> Yeah.