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(Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,

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an in-depth, interactive study

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of the Word of God.

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I'm so excited as we continue this series

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on <i>Themes in the Gospel of John,</i>

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such a blessing.

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Today, <i>Fulfilling Old Testament
Prophecies.</i>

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Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,

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and again I'm excited because one

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of our team is going to be teaching.

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Stephanie, great to have you with us today

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and great to have our team here.

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Give everybody a wave.

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We're glad you're here.

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We've got some remote team members

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with us we want to welcome today.

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Faith, great to have you with us today,

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glad you're here.

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Mighty, good to have you with us today.

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And I think Rodney's with us,

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good to see you, Rodney.

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And we're also happy that <i>you're</i> here,

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because you're part of our global family.

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Just received an email from someone

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who said, "I raise my hand

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when you ask a question

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whenever someone's teaching,"

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because that's what we call interactive,
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And we're also happy when you write to us

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from wherever you are in the world

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as part of our Hope Sabbath School family.

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So, Muyonzo, thank you for writing to us

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from the country of Uganda.

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Muyonzo writes and says, "I appreciate

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your in-depth understanding

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of the Word of God.

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I am blessed."

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Well, I think we would say

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we learn, too, don't we, Puia,

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as we study the Word together.

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"May the Good Lord and Father of us all

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fill you with plenty

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of His blessings. Amen."

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(Team) Amen.

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(Derek) We say Amen, too.

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Thank you, Muyonzo, for writing to us

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from the country of Uganda.

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Here's a note from Linda

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on our Facebook page.

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I think we have about 180,000 subscribers

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on our Facebook.

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You say, "Derek, I'm one of them."

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Well, Linda writes and says, "I am

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so very happy to see

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Hope Sabbath School on Facebook.

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As an avid listener

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to Hope Sabbath School,

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I encourage everyone who really loves

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the Lord and wants to know more about Him

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and His everlasting love to watch

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Hope Sabbath School!"

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(Team) Amen!

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(Derek) Excellent. "Learning

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more about Jesus through His Word,

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the Bible, I guarantee you will be

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inspired and blessed.

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If there's a desire to love the Lord,

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to walk in His footsteps, and to one day

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be with Him in that beautiful home

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He's gone to prepare for us,

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accepting Jesus as our Savior and Lord,

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He promises He will never leave us
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(Team) Amen.

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(Derek) Wow, that was a sermon.

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That was a sermon, thank you, Linda.

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"I encourage everyone who wants

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to have a closer walk with Jesus

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to watch Hope Sabbath School."

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(Team) Amen.

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(Derek) "Be inspired and be blessed."

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Well, thank you, Linda, for writing,

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and you are an evangelist, sharing

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the good news, and we're so happy you're

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part of our Hope Sabbath School family.

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Here is a little hand-written note

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from the state of Alabama, here

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in the United States of America,

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and the donor writes,

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"Hello, Hope Sabbath School."

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(Team) Hello.

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(Derek) Got the wave.

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"You have really been a blessing

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to me and my family.

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I can't see that well, but I can

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really hear the Word of God."

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(Team) Amen.

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(Derek) Isn't that a reason

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why we want to speak clearly

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so that people get the message.

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"May God continue to bless you all.

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In Jesus' name," and a donation

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of 100 dollars to bless

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Hope Sabbath School.

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Thank you, Donor; you know who you are.

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Thank you for sharing with us

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in the mission.

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And thanks to each one of you.

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We're at a time of the year

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when some are saying, "What could I do?"

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"Where can I lay up some treasure
in Heaven?"

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I want to encourage you

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to partner with us.

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Just go to our website, hopetv.org/hopess,

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click on the Donate button.

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Or get an address there at our website

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and send us a note.

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Let us know how you're blessed

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and how you want to extend

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that blessing to others.

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One last note, from Ernest,

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a Liberian in Norway.

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That's a long way

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from home, Joshua, right?

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"I'm Ernest, originally from Liberia

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in West Africa, living in Norway.

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I've been watching Hope Sabbath School

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for over a decade now.

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When I moved to Norway,

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there was no church in my area,

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so I decided to do my Bible study online.

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I did that for some time, but I wanted

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an interactive class."

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You know what's happening, don't you?

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Alright, "I wanted an interactive class

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where we could see and hear

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different perspectives.

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In my search to get such a study,
I came across..."?

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(Derek, Team) "...Hope Sabbath School."

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(Derek) "And I've been

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glued to it since then.

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I love the testimonies,

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the Scripture songs, and the..."
what do you think?

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"...diversity," take a look at each other.

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We don't all look the same.

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People say, "Hope Sabbath School,

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I like it; we look like the world," right?

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(Team) Amen.

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(Derek) "I like the testimonies,

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Scripture songs, and diversity.

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I want to thank Bodil Morris

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for composing the Scripture songs

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and making the Bible easier to memorize.

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I also enjoy the inspiration

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when you give class members

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the opportunity to teach."

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Well, today, Ernest, is the day.

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Here is Stephanie; she is

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one of our team teachers, "Great idea.

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Thank you for everything you do."

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And this person is a monthly donor."

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(Team) Praise the Lord.

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(Derek) Yeah, so you never know

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where you are, if you're in Norway

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or Liberia or Botswana, or South Africa,

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you can be part of the mission."

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(Team) Amen.

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(Derek) Well, I just want to remind you

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before we sing our song that we have

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a special gift for you during this series.

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And it's a collection of Scripture songs

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from the words of Jesus.

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My wife has put some of the words

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of Jesus to music.

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one of my favorites is in this collection

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of six Scripture songs

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from the words of Jesus.

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It's in Revelation (four of them

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from John, two are in Revelation),

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it says, "Do not be afraid;

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I am the First and the Last,"

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you know that text?

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" I am He who lives, and was dead,

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and behold, I am alive forevermore."

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If you downloaded the six songs

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just to get that one,

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you'll be incredibly blessed.

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So go to our website,

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hopetv.org/hopess, click

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on the Free Gift tab, and you'll get

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directions to download that collection

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of six <i>Trilogy Scripture Songs</i>

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from the words of Jesus.

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We're going to sing our theme song now.

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It's about Jesus

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but not the words of Jesus.

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It's the words of the great prophet

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John the Baptist when he said,

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"Behold! The Lamb of God

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who takes away the sin of the world."

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Let's sing it together.

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(Derek) And that's what we want to do

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in our study today,

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<i>Fulfilling Old Testament Prophecies,</i>

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is behold the Lamb of God, predicted

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hundreds of years before He came.

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Thanks for leading our study, Stephanie.

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(Stephanie) Alright, let's

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bow our heads for prayer.

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Dear heavenly Father,

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thank You for Your Word.

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Thank You that we can trust it.

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We ask for Your Holy Spirit to guide us

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into Your Word and Your truth today.

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In the name of Jesus Christ we pray. Amen.

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(Derek, Team) Amen.

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(Stephanie) I have a question for us

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as we begin our study today,

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and that question is, who is Jesus?

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Who is Jesus? Rodney?

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(Rodney) Let me read a text

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(Stephanie) Matthew 1 and verse 16,

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would you like us to go there?

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(Rodney) Yes, please.

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(Stephanie) Alright, Matthew,

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(Rodney) And I'm reading

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from the New King James Version, it says:

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So Jesus is the Christ,

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He's the Son of God,

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and He was the Messiah.

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(Stephanie) Amen. Puia.

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(Puia) For me, I would say Jesus Christ

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is the Creator and the Savior.

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(Stephanie) Creator and Savior. Tendi.

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(Tendi) He is the Lamb of God,

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the light of the world,

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the way, the truth and the life.

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(Stephanie) Jonathan.

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(Jonathan) He's the image of God,

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the perfect revelation of His character.

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(Stephanie) The perfect revelation

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of His character. Geoffrey.

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(Geoffrey) Physician, Healer.

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Well, I put it out on social media.

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I asked the question on social media,

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and here are some of the responses

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I received: "The Word made flesh,"

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"a Preacher and Religious Leader,"

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"Messiah," "Divine," "Son of God."

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Let's see what the Bible says.

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We'll start our study in the book of John,

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and, Zandile, do you have that?

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(Stephanie) John, chapter 5,

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verses 17, 20 and 36.

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John, chapter 10, verse 25.

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And, Geoffrey, if you would read that

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for us, John, chapter 10 and verse 25.

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And I want to ask a question

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as we're reading these texts:

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What do these words of Jesus

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reveal about His close collaboration

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with the Father in Heaven?

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Go ahead, Geoffrey.

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(Geoffrey) Alright, I'll be reading

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from the New King James Version:

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(Stephanie) Alright, how do these words

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of Jesus show His close collaboration

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with God the Father? Jonathan.

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(Jonathan) People kept asking Jesus,

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like, "Who are You?"

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And, "How do You do such things?"

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or, "How do You claim such things?"

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And He repeatedly points

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back to these works that He was doing

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that obviously no one else can do.

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And so He's saying, "The works

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that I am doing show

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My relationship to the Father,

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so pay attention to them."

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(Stephanie) Gladys.

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(Gladys) Jesus said many times,

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"I don't do anything of My own.

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Everything I do is what the Father

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tells Me to do."

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So these verses just reveal that They

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were working in close connection.

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He was only doing what the Father

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revealed for Him to do.

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(Derek) It just hit me from your post,

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"Who is Jesus?" that if we didn't have

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the Bible, we would just have to say,

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"Well, He's Someone that a lot of people

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talk about, I guess a famous teacher

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of some kind," but we wouldn't have any

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of the testimonies we're hearing today.

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The Bible is so important,

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and I know you're going to take us

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actually to the Bible

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before even the Incarnation, right?

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But even there Jesus said,

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"These are all about Me."

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So, I guess what I'm sensing

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in the answer to, "Who was Jesus?" is I

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really need the inspired Word of God

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to answer that question.

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(Stephanie) That's right. Zandile.

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(Zandile) I wanted to say that they

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show us that Jesus and the Father

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had a shared mission, and they had

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an intimate relationship together,

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which was Divine.

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So whenever He is saying the Father,

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it shows the divinity of Him.

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(Stephanie) And Jesus boldly claimed

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His relationship with God the Father.

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Let's look at John, chapter 10,

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looking at verses 37 and 38,

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and, Mighty, if you would be willing

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to read that for us,

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John, chapter 10, verses 37 and 38.

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We're looking at what that bold claim was

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of Jesus about His close relationship

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with God the Father.

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(Mighty) Sure, so John, chapter 10,

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verses 37 and 38, I'm reading

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the King James Version, it says:

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(Stephanie) What are you hearing there?

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Thank you, Mighty.

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What are you hearing?

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Go ahead, Scott.

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(Scott) One of the things

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that we've seen already

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in the Gospel of John

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is that Jesus' works are signs,

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and that's what He is saying here.

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You know, "Even if you have

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some questions, look at the works

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and see that the God the Father is in it."

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And if God the Father...if you see

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the evidence that He is in these works,

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then you should believe in Jesus.

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(Stephanie) And His bold claim is what?

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What is His bold claim?

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Well, we can go to John, chapter 14.

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Shall we go to John, chapter 14,

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and let's look at verses 7 through 13,

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and then also verse 23.

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And, Faith, if you would be willing

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to read that for us, John, chapter 14,

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and that's verses 7

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through 13, and verse 23.

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(Faith) Yes, I'm reading

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from the New King James Version, verse 7:

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And you said verse 20?

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(Stephanie) 23.

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(Faith) 23, okay. Verse 23:

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(Stephanie) What is the bold claim?

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Thank you, Faith.

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What is the bold claim? Jonathan.

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(Jonathan) Here you have this Man

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that is walking around, and the disciples

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are watching, other people

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are watching them, and slowly realizing

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that this living Person

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they can reach and touch is God Himself,

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is the Divine living...

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And He claims here He is in the Father,

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the Father is in Him, that, yeah,

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the Almighty has come to Earth.

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(Derek) Immanuel - God with us.

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(Stephanie) They are one.

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And in John, chapter 10, verse 30,

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Jesus is very clear; He says,

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"My Father and I are one," very clear.

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Scott and then we'll go to Geoffrey.

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(Scott) And just to make this explicit,

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Jesus is saying that He is God.

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(Stephanie) Geoffrey.

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(Geoffrey) When we were reading this,

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and the disciples were witnessing

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Jesus' deeds and things,

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it's not just majesty

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and power but character.

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It's like, "Let the children

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come unto Me."

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That's the thing, back then, God

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was dictator, authoritarian, like,

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"If you don't do what I say,

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you're going to be punished."

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And Jesus is like, "No, I'm trying

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to heal you; I'm trying to save you."

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And that's really what it is,

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"God is on your side; I'm on your side."

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(Stephanie) They both have

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the same mission, God and the Father.

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(Derek) And I think it's important,

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Stephanie, to reiterate that Jesus

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never says, "I am the Father."

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He says, "The Father and I are one.

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He says, "If you've seen Me,"

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to use the language Geoffrey was using,

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"you've seen a full revelation

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of the character of My Father."

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But He doesn't say, "I am the Father,"

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right, and He will later say,

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"I will send you another Comforter,

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the Holy Spirit."

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He doesn't ever say,

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"I am the Holy Spirit."

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So there is this mystery of the Godhead,

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and yet they are so close

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that they are one.

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(Stephanie) That's right, Divine,
Jesus is Divine.

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(Derek) We'll study that for eternity,
I think.

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(Stephanie) We will.

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How do these words

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that we've just read in John

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reveal to us, the beginning of John,

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his inspired declaration

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about whom Jesus was?

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Let's look at John, chapter 1,

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verses 1 and 2, and, Rodney, if you

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would be prepared to read that for us.

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And we're looking to see how the verses

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we just read confirm the declaration

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that was at the beginning of John.

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(Rodney) So I'm reading John,

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chapter 1, verses 1 and 2, and reading

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from the New King James Version:

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(Stephanie) Did you want

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to comment on that, Rodney?

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(Rodney) It comes back to the question

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that you were asking earlier, Stephanie,

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about who is Jesus, and here it is

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clearly making the connection

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between the Word, which is

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representing Jesus in this context,

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to God Himself, God the Father.

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So, back to the point

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that Derek just mentioned,

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if you notice, you have the Father

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and you have Jesus,

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and they are interconnected.

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There is a popular belief out there

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that there is just one Entity,

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but what we are seeing here is

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that there is a clear depiction

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between [Jesus] and the Father,

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and you also see in different aspects

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in John where Jesus would actually go

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and get instructions

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from His Father essentially.

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Early in the morning, He would commune

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with His Father for direction

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for Himself that particular day.

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(Stephanie) Yes, thank you very much.

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Did we have another comment?

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Alright, we're moving on now to...

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Scott, did I see your hand?

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(Scott) Yeah, I was just noticing

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when it says, "The Word was with God,

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and the Word was God," if you

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read that in the original language,

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there's a little bit of emphasis

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on the word "God."

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Like, "The Word was <i>God,</i>

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like this is one of the major points

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that John wants us to get.

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And it's just right there

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in that first verse of John.

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(Stephanie) Right, and the Word, we know,

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became flesh and dwelt among us, right?

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So we understand that to be Jesus,

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just to clarify that.

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(Derek) And you know, Stephanie,

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anybody could make that claim,

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"Well, I'm the Word," or, "I am..."

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But, as we've heard earlier,

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it's the life and the works, the ministry.

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Again, we need the Bible.

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And as we see that, we see

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it's not just the rash claim

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of a madman claiming to be the Son of God,

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but it is speaking truth and is evidenced

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by how He lived and what He did.

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(Stephanie) That's right.

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In fact, Jesus...and we're

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going to move on.

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Now, we've established

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He is Divine; is that right?

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(Team) Yes.

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(Stephanie) And we're going to move on

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and look at how Jesus claimed

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that the Hebrew Scriptures

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pointed to Him as the Messiah, alright?

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So, we're going back to John,

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John, chapter 5 and looking

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at verses 39 and 40 and then 46.

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And, Joshua, would you read that for us?

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(Joshua) Sure, and I'll be reading

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from the New King James Version,

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and the Bible says:

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And verse 46?

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(Stephanie) That's right.

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(Stephanie) What was Jesus' claim?

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(Joshua) That, "The One that you

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have learned about, the One

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that you have studied and understood

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from your ancestors and teachers,

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all of them were prophesying of Me,

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which you now see today."

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(Stephanie) So He was referring

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back to Moses and the prophets and saying

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that they testified of Him. Gladys.

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(Gladys) The Hebrew children would learn

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the first five books

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of the [Bible, the] Torah,

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and Moses was their biggest prophet.

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So for Him to claim right there,

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"You believe in Moses,

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but he was talking about Me."

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00:25:34,152 --> 00:25:35,752
He was kind of referring them to,

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just like Joshua was saying,

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kind of saying, "All the things

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you have been studying, you

541
00:25:39,897 --> 00:25:42,369
should have been able to recognize Me."

542
00:25:42,369 --> 00:25:45,471
(Stephanie) Very good. Rodney.

543
00:25:45,471 --> 00:25:47,000
(Rodney) Stephanie, everyone

544
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,920
knew back then, well, the Jews

545
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,734
knew, back then, Moses

546
00:25:50,734 --> 00:25:53,289
as the deliverer of the Jews,

547
00:25:53,289 --> 00:25:55,908
again, back then.

548
00:25:55,908 --> 00:25:58,981
And they also associated the changing

549
00:25:58,981 --> 00:26:02,461
of the water to blood by Moses

550
00:26:02,461 --> 00:26:04,298
who was the deliverer,

551
00:26:04,298 --> 00:26:06,826
clearly Moses asked God

552
00:26:06,826 --> 00:26:10,296
for that power to be able to do so.

553
00:26:10,296 --> 00:26:12,019
But I believe that is why, when you

554
00:26:12,019 --> 00:26:13,805
go on over now to John,

555
00:26:13,805 --> 00:26:16,138
and John talks about the first miracle

556
00:26:16,138 --> 00:26:19,014
of Jesus, it was all about water,

557
00:26:19,014 --> 00:26:20,939
turning water into something else,

558
00:26:20,939 --> 00:26:22,842
water into wine in that particular case,

559
00:26:22,842 --> 00:26:23,800
not blood, but wine.

560
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,989
So it should have triggered something

561
00:26:25,989 --> 00:26:27,768
in the minds of the Jews to say,

562
00:26:27,768 --> 00:26:30,159
"I've heard that story some time ago,

563
00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:31,972
which was water turning to something,

564
00:26:31,972 --> 00:26:33,220
which is blood; here it is

565
00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:34,889
water turning into wine.

566
00:26:34,889 --> 00:26:38,434
This must have been the Messiah

567
00:26:38,434 --> 00:26:39,828
that Moses was pointing to,

568
00:26:39,828 --> 00:26:40,794
the greater Prophet

569
00:26:40,794 --> 00:26:44,086
that Moses was pointing to."

570
00:26:44,086 --> 00:26:45,768
(Stephanie) What does that tell us

571
00:26:45,768 --> 00:26:48,336
about Jesus' conviction

572
00:26:48,336 --> 00:26:50,424
about the Scriptures, the validity

573
00:26:50,424 --> 00:26:51,978
of the Scriptures?

574
00:26:51,978 --> 00:26:53,122
(Puia) I try to imagine,

575
00:26:53,122 --> 00:26:54,839
what if there were no Scriptures?

576
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:56,488
Jesus would show up on the scene

577
00:26:56,488 --> 00:26:58,654
and say, "Surprise, I'm here."

578
00:26:58,654 --> 00:27:01,114
But instead, Jesus said, "Well,

579
00:27:01,114 --> 00:27:02,853
Moses wrote about Me,

580
00:27:02,853 --> 00:27:05,074
and all the prophets wrote about Me."

581
00:27:05,074 --> 00:27:07,751
And Jesus was using the Scripture

582
00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:12,419
as a way to confirm, in a way, solidify

583
00:27:12,419 --> 00:27:15,711
their faith that He is truly the Messiah.

584
00:27:15,711 --> 00:27:17,240
(Stephanie) And, Puia, maybe you

585
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,893
can take us there - Jesus

586
00:27:18,893 --> 00:27:21,715
also confirmed who He was when He

587
00:27:21,715 --> 00:27:23,969
referred back to the Old Testament,

588
00:27:23,969 --> 00:27:25,452
the Hebrew Scriptures,

589
00:27:25,452 --> 00:27:29,476
in Luke, chapter 24, verse 36,

590
00:27:29,476 --> 00:27:33,119
when He spoke to those two disciples

591
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,014
after His resurrection

592
00:27:35,014 --> 00:27:38,305
on the road to Emmaus.

593
00:27:38,305 --> 00:27:42,608
Luke, chapter 24, verse 27.

594
00:27:42,608 --> 00:27:43,853
(Puia) And I'll be reading

595
00:27:43,853 --> 00:27:45,399
from the New King James Version,

596
00:27:45,399 --> 00:27:47,101
Luke 24, verse 27:

597
00:27:58,492 --> 00:28:00,272
(Stephanie) I just wish I was walking

598
00:28:00,272 --> 00:28:02,988
with Jesus that day, don't You?

599
00:28:02,988 --> 00:28:04,540
Where did He start?

600
00:28:04,540 --> 00:28:07,093
Maybe Genesis 3:15, "I'm going

601
00:28:07,093 --> 00:28:09,576
to put enmity...," I don't know.

602
00:28:09,576 --> 00:28:12,452
But He walked them through the Scriptures

603
00:28:12,452 --> 00:28:14,370
and made it clear,

604
00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:16,734
who the Hebrew Scriptures

605
00:28:16,734 --> 00:28:19,171
were pointing to was Him.

606
00:28:19,171 --> 00:28:21,867
He was the Messiah. Alright, Derek.

607
00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:23,210
(Derek) I love the testimony

608
00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:24,744
of those two disciples.

609
00:28:24,744 --> 00:28:27,073
Later they said, "Didn't our hearts

610
00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,093
burn within us?"

611
00:28:29,093 --> 00:28:31,177
So, Gladys talked about the Scriptures,

612
00:28:31,177 --> 00:28:35,639
but they saw this amazing revelation,

613
00:28:35,639 --> 00:28:37,946
again, not a random claim,

614
00:28:37,946 --> 00:28:40,849
but they saw all of these fulfilled

615
00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:43,494
in the Jesus they knew and followed.

616
00:28:43,494 --> 00:28:44,767
It must have been amazing.

617
00:28:44,767 --> 00:28:47,668
(Stephanie) It must have. Alright, Tendi?

618
00:28:47,668 --> 00:28:49,095
(Tendi) I just wanted to add

619
00:28:49,095 --> 00:28:51,148
that every time Jesus talks

620
00:28:51,148 --> 00:28:54,853
about the Scriptures validating who He is

621
00:28:54,853 --> 00:28:57,008
or testifying about Him,

622
00:28:57,008 --> 00:28:59,816
if you read the text, "Scriptures"

623
00:28:59,816 --> 00:29:01,650
and "Me," "Scriptures" and "Him"

624
00:29:01,650 --> 00:29:05,629
are always in capitals, which is emphasis.

625
00:29:05,629 --> 00:29:07,603
(Stephanie) Thank you. Jonathan.

626
00:29:07,603 --> 00:29:09,570
(Jonathan) I just think it's interesting

627
00:29:09,570 --> 00:29:10,776
how God didn't reveal

628
00:29:10,776 --> 00:29:12,935
everything all at once; He left

629
00:29:12,935 --> 00:29:14,778
little pictures throughout Scriptures.

630
00:29:14,778 --> 00:29:16,775
And so, as you go through the Scriptures,

631
00:29:16,775 --> 00:29:17,977
as you walk through them,

632
00:29:17,977 --> 00:29:21,276
and as the disciples looked afterwards,

633
00:29:21,276 --> 00:29:23,210
it's like, "Oh, wow, that revealed Him,"

634
00:29:23,210 --> 00:29:24,468
"Oh, that revealed Him."

635
00:29:24,468 --> 00:29:26,643
And so, I think that maybe that's how God

636
00:29:26,643 --> 00:29:28,127
works in our lives as well,

637
00:29:28,127 --> 00:29:30,662
bit by bit by bit.

638
00:29:30,662 --> 00:29:31,673
(Stephanie) Geoffrey.

639
00:29:31,673 --> 00:29:34,978
(Geoffrey) Yes, the God that we serve

640
00:29:34,978 --> 00:29:36,622
does not just make claims;

641
00:29:36,622 --> 00:29:38,847
He reveals evidence, and that's

642
00:29:38,847 --> 00:29:40,776
really what this whole great controversy

643
00:29:40,776 --> 00:29:42,449
is all about and when Jesus

644
00:29:42,449 --> 00:29:45,249
was on Earth, revealing the evidence

645
00:29:45,249 --> 00:29:47,149
bit by bit and making us

646
00:29:47,149 --> 00:29:50,594
fully convinced in our own minds.

647
00:29:50,594 --> 00:29:52,609
(Stephanie) Thank you. Zandile.

648
00:29:52,609 --> 00:29:53,843
(Zandile) So, I went back

649
00:29:53,843 --> 00:29:56,328
to the five books that Moses wrote

650
00:29:56,328 --> 00:29:57,525
to try to find out

651
00:29:57,525 --> 00:30:00,727
what really prefigured Jesus

652
00:30:00,727 --> 00:30:02,271
that He was referring to when He

653
00:30:02,271 --> 00:30:04,593
was saying "starting from Moses."

654
00:30:04,593 --> 00:30:07,010
And I found that in Genesis, Moses says

655
00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:09,343
He is the seed in Genesis 3:15.

656
00:30:09,343 --> 00:30:12,076
And in Leviticus, He is the Passover Lamb.

657
00:30:12,076 --> 00:30:16,266
No, in Exodus He is the Passover Lamb,

658
00:30:16,266 --> 00:30:17,519
and in Leviticus He is

659
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:18,962
the sacrificial system,

660
00:30:18,962 --> 00:30:20,475
"You all sacrifice; you are

661
00:30:20,475 --> 00:30:21,615
familiar with this one,

662
00:30:21,615 --> 00:30:23,114
and this pointed to Me,

663
00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:24,644
dying on the cross for you."

664
00:30:24,644 --> 00:30:26,607
And in Numbers, He is the bronze serpent.

665
00:30:26,607 --> 00:30:30,546
He says to Nicodemus, "If the Son of Man

666
00:30:30,546 --> 00:30:32,830
shall be lifted up just like Moses when he

667
00:30:32,830 --> 00:30:34,047
lifted up the serpent

668
00:30:34,047 --> 00:30:35,729
in the desert, that was Me."

669
00:30:35,729 --> 00:30:38,452
And in Deuteronomy it says "I."

670
00:30:38,452 --> 00:30:40,868
Moses says, "God will raise up a prophet

671
00:30:40,868 --> 00:30:43,251
who is like unto me but who will be

672
00:30:43,251 --> 00:30:44,079
greater than Me."

673
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:45,920
So when He is saying Moses,

674
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,930
I was like, okay, I really need to see

675
00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:49,878
what Moses was saying about the manna,

676
00:30:49,878 --> 00:30:51,924
which is Jesus, the bread of life.

677
00:30:51,924 --> 00:30:52,644
(Team) Amen!

678
00:30:52,644 --> 00:30:54,440
(Stephanie) And as you pointed out...

679
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,755
Thank you so much, Zandile.

680
00:30:55,755 --> 00:30:59,803
As you pointed out each Bible book

681
00:30:59,803 --> 00:31:03,631
that you found, it's prolific;

682
00:31:03,631 --> 00:31:06,830
it's throughout the whole Hebrew
Scriptures. Yes, Puia.

683
00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:08,793
(Puia) And to add to that,

684
00:31:08,793 --> 00:31:10,463
it's not just the books of Moses.

685
00:31:10,463 --> 00:31:12,921
If we go through every single book

686
00:31:12,921 --> 00:31:14,538
of the Old Testament,

687
00:31:14,538 --> 00:31:15,638
the Hebrew Scripture,

688
00:31:15,638 --> 00:31:18,337
throughout all the Old Testament time,

689
00:31:18,337 --> 00:31:20,063
they were all pointing

690
00:31:20,063 --> 00:31:22,203
forward to the coming Messiah.

691
00:31:22,203 --> 00:31:25,803
So this is all about Jesus.

692
00:31:25,803 --> 00:31:29,332
(Stephanie) Amen. And, of course, later

693
00:31:29,332 --> 00:31:30,697
He revealed Himself

694
00:31:30,697 --> 00:31:32,434
to the 11 disciples, right?

695
00:31:32,434 --> 00:31:35,072
And He repeated something very similar.

696
00:31:35,072 --> 00:31:37,949
And maybe we should just go there,

697
00:31:37,949 --> 00:31:42,339
Luke, chapter 24, looking at verse 36

698
00:31:42,339 --> 00:31:45,089
and then 44 and 45.

699
00:31:45,089 --> 00:31:47,752
And, Gladys, would you read that for us?

700
00:31:47,752 --> 00:31:49,388
(Gladys) Sure, I'm reading

701
00:31:49,388 --> 00:31:51,191
from the New International Version,

702
00:31:51,191 --> 00:31:53,959
Luke, chapter 27, verse 36

703
00:31:53,959 --> 00:31:55,785
and then 44 and 45:

704
00:32:05,845 --> 00:32:07,168
Verse 44:

705
00:32:25,956 --> 00:32:29,317
(Stephanie) Amen. Jesus recognized

706
00:32:29,317 --> 00:32:30,739
that the Hebrew Scriptures

707
00:32:30,739 --> 00:32:33,553
pointed to Him as the Messiah,

708
00:32:33,553 --> 00:32:35,047
but He's not the only one.

709
00:32:35,047 --> 00:32:36,522
His disciples did, too.

710
00:32:36,522 --> 00:32:39,652
Let's look at John, chapter 1, verse 45.

711
00:32:39,652 --> 00:32:41,850
Jonathan, would you read that for us?

712
00:32:58,233 --> 00:33:01,955
(Stephanie) What did Philip say?
He found who?

713
00:33:01,955 --> 00:33:03,040
(Team) The One.

714
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,268
(Stephanie) The One

715
00:33:04,268 --> 00:33:06,774
who was prophesied, right?

716
00:33:06,774 --> 00:33:08,775
Alright, let's go to John, chapter 2

717
00:33:08,775 --> 00:33:13,114
and look at verses 17 and 22,

718
00:33:13,114 --> 00:33:15,579
and, Mighty, would you be able

719
00:33:15,579 --> 00:33:16,611
to read that for us?

720
00:33:16,611 --> 00:33:22,466
John, chapter 2, verses 17 and 22.

721
00:33:22,466 --> 00:33:23,609
(Mighty) I'll be reading

722
00:33:23,609 --> 00:33:27,615
from the King James Version, and it says:

723
00:33:35,516 --> 00:33:36,738
22:

724
00:33:51,314 --> 00:33:52,726
(Stephanie) What can we learn

725
00:33:52,726 --> 00:33:54,756
from the fact that both the disciples

726
00:33:54,756 --> 00:33:58,554
and Jesus had confidence

727
00:33:58,554 --> 00:34:00,571
in the Scriptures?

728
00:34:00,571 --> 00:34:01,389
What can we learn

729
00:34:01,389 --> 00:34:06,130
for ourselves today? Puia.

730
00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:08,271
(Puia) As we just looked at that verse 22

731
00:34:08,271 --> 00:34:11,677
from chapter 2, the disciples believed

732
00:34:11,677 --> 00:34:15,057
because they witnessed the fulfillment

733
00:34:15,057 --> 00:34:17,242
of what Jesus prophesied.

734
00:34:17,242 --> 00:34:19,930
And so, for me, when I read

735
00:34:19,930 --> 00:34:22,070
the Scripture and study these prophecies

736
00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:24,304
and see it in fulfillment

737
00:34:24,304 --> 00:34:26,646
in the history of this world,

738
00:34:26,646 --> 00:34:30,059
it brings a great deal of evidence,

739
00:34:30,059 --> 00:34:32,254
as Geoffrey pointed out, to believe

740
00:34:32,254 --> 00:34:34,587
that this is trustworthy

741
00:34:34,587 --> 00:34:36,462
because the predictions

742
00:34:36,462 --> 00:34:39,344
and the prophecies are fulfilled.

743
00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:40,591
(Stephanie) That's right.

744
00:34:40,591 --> 00:34:42,021
(Derek) I think you're making

745
00:34:42,021 --> 00:34:43,212
a really important point,

746
00:34:43,212 --> 00:34:46,734
because modern liberal scholars will say,

747
00:34:46,734 --> 00:34:49,255
"This just related to people back then.

748
00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:51,497
There's no one who can tell

749
00:34:51,497 --> 00:34:54,445
what's going to happen in the future,
not even God."

750
00:34:54,445 --> 00:34:56,182
Well, God does claim, "I know

751
00:34:56,182 --> 00:34:57,864
the end from the beginning," right,

752
00:34:57,864 --> 00:35:00,210
things that have not yet come to pass.

753
00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:02,645
But Jesus had confidence

754
00:35:02,645 --> 00:35:05,114
in the reliability of those prophecies

755
00:35:05,114 --> 00:35:06,830
testifying about Him.

756
00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:08,964
And I think, today,

757
00:35:08,964 --> 00:35:10,563
our Hope Sabbath School members

758
00:35:10,563 --> 00:35:12,631
around the world need to realize

759
00:35:12,631 --> 00:35:15,322
that we don't listen to the scoffers

760
00:35:15,322 --> 00:35:17,946
and the skeptics who say, "None

761
00:35:17,946 --> 00:35:19,906
of that has any significance;

762
00:35:19,906 --> 00:35:22,201
it's just something back then."

763
00:35:22,201 --> 00:35:25,088
But holy men of God were moved

764
00:35:25,088 --> 00:35:26,641
by the Holy Spirit,

765
00:35:26,641 --> 00:35:28,480
so it's actually very exciting,

766
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,610
as Zandile was sharing, "I found this

767
00:35:30,610 --> 00:35:32,788
in Genesis; I found this in Exodus."

768
00:35:32,788 --> 00:35:35,035
It's an exciting discovery.

769
00:35:35,035 --> 00:35:36,480
I know you're going to lead us

770
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,451
on some of it, but it's important to know

771
00:35:38,451 --> 00:35:40,770
it's not just opinion, that this is

772
00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:43,427
the reliable, inspired Word of God.

773
00:35:43,427 --> 00:35:46,342
(Stephanie) Indeed, and Derek was

774
00:35:46,342 --> 00:35:49,350
bringing out a verse, 2 Peter, chapter 1,

775
00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:50,951
verses 19 through 21.

776
00:35:50,951 --> 00:35:54,924
Let's read that, and before we read that,

777
00:35:54,924 --> 00:35:57,104
Rodney, I see you have a comment,

778
00:35:57,104 --> 00:36:03,034
and maybe you can read 2 Peter, chapter 1,

779
00:36:03,034 --> 00:36:06,272
verses 19 through 21, after your comment.

780
00:36:06,272 --> 00:36:07,862
(Rodney) What I wanted to comment

781
00:36:07,862 --> 00:36:09,621
before I read this text is,

782
00:36:09,621 --> 00:36:12,950
it is also interesting to note

783
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:15,181
that it is possible for you to know

784
00:36:15,181 --> 00:36:19,094
the Scriptures but still [not] believe.

785
00:36:19,094 --> 00:36:22,127
So, those leaders back then

786
00:36:22,127 --> 00:36:23,506
knew the Scriptures.

787
00:36:23,506 --> 00:36:25,048
That's why Jesus made the point,

788
00:36:25,048 --> 00:36:27,055
"You know the Scriptures, and in them you

789
00:36:27,055 --> 00:36:28,455
think you have eternal life."

790
00:36:28,455 --> 00:36:30,644
And essentially He's saying, "Here I am,

791
00:36:30,644 --> 00:36:32,339
the fulfillment of what you

792
00:36:32,339 --> 00:36:33,590
have been reading, and you

793
00:36:33,590 --> 00:36:34,659
still don't believe."

794
00:36:34,659 --> 00:36:37,720
So there is the aspect of us,

795
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:39,252
when we read the Scriptures,

796
00:36:39,252 --> 00:36:41,325
to open our hearts to the leading

797
00:36:41,325 --> 00:36:43,562
of the Holy Spirit so that He can lead us

798
00:36:43,562 --> 00:36:47,561
to understand who Jesus truly is.

799
00:36:47,561 --> 00:36:49,837
So, as we look at 2 Peter 1,

800
00:36:49,837 --> 00:36:54,114
verses 19 and 21, is that what you said,
Stephanie?

801
00:36:54,114 --> 00:36:55,512
(Stephanie) Yes.

802
00:36:55,512 --> 00:36:57,903
(Rodney) Alright, 19 and 21, and it says

803
00:36:57,903 --> 00:37:00,119
in the New King James Version:

804
00:37:16,083 --> 00:37:17,156
Verse 21:

805
00:37:29,112 --> 00:37:34,473
(Stephanie) So the Scripture was inspired.

806
00:37:34,473 --> 00:37:37,418
I saw a few comments here. Scott?

807
00:37:37,418 --> 00:37:40,320
(Scott) We skipped over verse 20 where it

808
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,608
says that no prophecy of Scripture

809
00:37:42,608 --> 00:37:45,350
comes from someone's own interpretation,

810
00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:46,637
and this is the other side

811
00:37:46,637 --> 00:37:48,297
of what we talked about, how Jesus

812
00:37:48,297 --> 00:37:49,857
had confidence in the Scripture.

813
00:37:49,857 --> 00:37:51,790
And we talked about how some people say,

814
00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:53,383
"Well, Scripture doesn't matter."

815
00:37:53,383 --> 00:37:55,651
But there are other times when people get

816
00:37:55,651 --> 00:37:59,191
very much into their own kind
of esoteric understanding

817
00:37:59,191 --> 00:38:00,050
of the Scripture;

818
00:38:00,050 --> 00:38:01,934
it has a spiritual meaning.

819
00:38:01,934 --> 00:38:03,639
And this is also what we're saying,

820
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:05,704
that, no, Scripture has a plain meaning.

821
00:38:05,704 --> 00:38:07,532
We read it, and when the plain meaning

822
00:38:07,532 --> 00:38:08,819
is apparent, that's what we

823
00:38:08,819 --> 00:38:10,467
should hold to.

824
00:38:10,467 --> 00:38:11,619
(Stephanie) We can trust

825
00:38:11,619 --> 00:38:12,716
the Word of God.

826
00:38:12,716 --> 00:38:13,883
Let's take a look...

827
00:38:13,883 --> 00:38:16,090
I'm sorry, our time limits us,

828
00:38:16,090 --> 00:38:18,459
so we have to move on to the next section,

829
00:38:18,459 --> 00:38:19,527
but let's take a look

830
00:38:19,527 --> 00:38:22,604
at some Old Testament prophecies

831
00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:24,384
and how we see those fulfilled

832
00:38:24,384 --> 00:38:26,033
in the life of Jesus.

833
00:38:26,033 --> 00:38:27,500
We'll start in Isaiah,

834
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:30,579
chapter 40, verse 3, and then I'll

835
00:38:30,579 --> 00:38:34,280
let you be thinking,
as we're reading this,

836
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,439
some of the other times

837
00:38:35,439 --> 00:38:37,697
where we see in the Old Testament

838
00:38:37,697 --> 00:38:40,480
those prophecies were fulfilled

839
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,075
in the life of Jesus.

840
00:38:42,075 --> 00:38:44,834
Isaiah 40, verse 3, and, Geoffrey,

841
00:38:44,834 --> 00:38:46,299
if you would read that for us.

842
00:38:46,299 --> 00:38:47,884
(Geoffrey) Yes, I'll be reading

843
00:38:47,884 --> 00:38:50,760
from the New King James Version:

844
00:39:02,537 --> 00:39:03,883
(Stephanie) And where do we

845
00:39:03,883 --> 00:39:04,938
see that fulfilled?

846
00:39:04,938 --> 00:39:05,750
(Team) In John.

847
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:08,210
(Stephanie) In John. Who fulfilled that?

848
00:39:08,210 --> 00:39:10,275
(Team, Stephanie) John the Baptist.

849
00:39:10,275 --> 00:39:12,085
(Stephanie) Let's take a look at that,

850
00:39:12,085 --> 00:39:16,624
John, chapter 1, verse 23.

851
00:39:16,624 --> 00:39:18,503
And, Scott, would you read that for us,

852
00:39:18,503 --> 00:39:21,033
John, chapter 1, verse 23.

853
00:39:21,033 --> 00:39:22,429
(Scott) Okay, and I'm reading

854
00:39:22,429 --> 00:39:24,304
from the English Standard Version,

855
00:39:24,304 --> 00:39:25,734
"He," that's John the Baptist:

856
00:39:34,776 --> 00:39:37,475
(Stephanie) So referring back to what?
Hebrew Scriptures.

857
00:39:37,475 --> 00:39:41,135
Alright, what are some other examples?

858
00:39:41,135 --> 00:39:42,271
Psalms? Go ahead.

859
00:39:42,271 --> 00:39:45,973
(Gladys) Yeah, Psalm 118, verse 26.

860
00:39:45,973 --> 00:39:49,350
(Stephanie) Psalm 118, verse 26?

861
00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:51,359
"Blessed is he who comes

862
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:52,913
in the name of the Lord"?

863
00:39:52,913 --> 00:39:55,808
Yes, please read that for us.

864
00:39:55,808 --> 00:39:57,469
Psalm, chapter...

865
00:39:57,469 --> 00:40:02,640
(Gladys) 118, verse 26, and it says:

866
00:40:11,771 --> 00:40:13,141
(Stephanie) And where do we

867
00:40:13,141 --> 00:40:14,854
see that fulfilled?

868
00:40:14,854 --> 00:40:16,111
(Gladys) Triumphal Entry.

869
00:40:16,111 --> 00:40:17,814
(Stephanie) In the Triumphal Entry,

870
00:40:17,814 --> 00:40:20,356
John, chapter 12, right,

871
00:40:20,356 --> 00:40:22,556
John, chapter 12, verse 13,

872
00:40:22,556 --> 00:40:25,817
and, Rodney, would you be willing

873
00:40:25,817 --> 00:40:26,885
to read that for us?

874
00:40:26,885 --> 00:40:32,596
John, chapter 12, verse 13.

875
00:40:32,596 --> 00:40:33,745
(Rodney) And I'm reading

876
00:40:33,745 --> 00:40:35,321
from the New King James Version:

877
00:40:48,615 --> 00:40:49,714
(Stephanie) And we need

878
00:40:49,714 --> 00:40:51,502
to follow that one up with Zechariah,

879
00:40:51,502 --> 00:40:54,264
okay, Zechariah, chapter 9, verse 9,

880
00:40:54,264 --> 00:40:55,947
because they are closely connected.

881
00:40:55,947 --> 00:40:58,062
Tendi, would you read that for us?

882
00:40:58,062 --> 00:40:59,882
(Tendi) Thank you, Stephanie, and I'll

883
00:40:59,882 --> 00:41:01,568
be reading Zechariah 9:9

884
00:41:01,568 --> 00:41:03,744
from the New King James Version:

885
00:41:23,693 --> 00:41:25,453
(Stephanie) We'll see the fulfillment

886
00:41:25,453 --> 00:41:28,922
of this, John, chapter 2, verse 14.

887
00:41:28,922 --> 00:41:30,340
(Jonathan) 2 or 12?

888
00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:31,741
(Stephanie) I'm sorry, John,

889
00:41:31,741 --> 00:41:33,972
chapter 12, thank you,

890
00:41:33,972 --> 00:41:38,398
and we'll be looking at verse 14.

891
00:41:38,398 --> 00:41:40,671
Jonathan, would you read that for us?

892
00:41:40,671 --> 00:41:41,925
(Jonathan) I'll be reading

893
00:41:41,925 --> 00:41:43,569
from the English Standard Version:

894
00:41:48,633 --> 00:41:51,447
(Stephanie) Do you want to read
verse 15 as well?

895
00:41:51,447 --> 00:41:53,067
Please do, okay, so we're looking

896
00:41:53,067 --> 00:41:54,729
at John, chapter 12

897
00:41:54,729 --> 00:41:56,317
and now looking at verse 15.

898
00:41:56,317 --> 00:41:57,985
(Jonathan) Alright, and it says:

899
00:42:05,025 --> 00:42:06,706
(Stephanie) What was the importance

900
00:42:06,706 --> 00:42:09,270
of Him coming in that manner?

901
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:13,303
Jesus had not wanted anyone

902
00:42:13,303 --> 00:42:16,923
to bring any light to Himself,

903
00:42:16,923 --> 00:42:20,603
but now He was riding, Triumphal Entry,

904
00:42:20,603 --> 00:42:25,025
riding into Jerusalem on a donkey.

905
00:42:25,025 --> 00:42:27,136
What is significant

906
00:42:27,136 --> 00:42:30,254
about Him doing that? Puia?

907
00:42:30,254 --> 00:42:32,024
(Puia) He was fulfilling the prophecy

908
00:42:32,024 --> 00:42:37,278
of Zechariah, and there was no excuse

909
00:42:37,278 --> 00:42:40,422
for anyone in Jerusalem

910
00:42:40,422 --> 00:42:42,631
who witnessed that scene to deny

911
00:42:42,631 --> 00:42:45,781
that Jesus was the Messiah.

912
00:42:45,781 --> 00:42:47,402
I mean, He was being welcomed in

913
00:42:47,402 --> 00:42:49,002
as the prophecy predicted.

914
00:42:49,002 --> 00:42:52,382
It was important for Jesus to do that.

915
00:42:52,382 --> 00:42:53,554
(Stephanie) And this was

916
00:42:53,554 --> 00:42:54,992
the first day of the week,

917
00:42:54,992 --> 00:42:56,164
right, leading up...?

918
00:42:56,164 --> 00:42:58,617
He knew, Jesus <i>knew</i>

919
00:42:58,617 --> 00:43:00,924
it would take Him to the cross.

920
00:43:00,924 --> 00:43:03,474
He knew that. Gladys.

921
00:43:03,474 --> 00:43:04,916
(Gladys) Whenever the kings

922
00:43:04,916 --> 00:43:07,655
and the army went out to war,

923
00:43:07,655 --> 00:43:09,112
whenever they were triumphant,

924
00:43:09,112 --> 00:43:12,429
they would come in, riding into the city,

925
00:43:12,429 --> 00:43:13,571
and the people would

926
00:43:13,571 --> 00:43:14,795
come out and celebrate.

927
00:43:14,795 --> 00:43:16,704
So Jesus was fulfilling...He got

928
00:43:16,704 --> 00:43:18,110
to the end of His mission,

929
00:43:18,110 --> 00:43:19,355
and He was coming.

930
00:43:19,355 --> 00:43:21,171
The kings would come on horses,

931
00:43:21,171 --> 00:43:23,468
but He chose a humble way to come in.

932
00:43:23,468 --> 00:43:24,236
(Stephanie) Yes!

933
00:43:24,236 --> 00:43:25,910
(Gladys) Not like you said before,

934
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:27,177
to bring glory to Himself,

935
00:43:27,177 --> 00:43:29,404
but to point to the Scriptures,

936
00:43:29,404 --> 00:43:32,334
humbly on a colt.

937
00:43:32,334 --> 00:43:34,356
(Stephanie) Yes. Derek, you
have a comment?

938
00:43:34,356 --> 00:43:36,439
(Derek) She's right, no triumphal entry

939
00:43:36,439 --> 00:43:39,653
on a stallion, but exactly the way

940
00:43:39,653 --> 00:43:41,276
the prophet had foretold hundreds

941
00:43:41,276 --> 00:43:42,354
of years before.

942
00:43:42,354 --> 00:43:44,337
(Stephanie) Amen. Jonathan.

943
00:43:44,337 --> 00:43:45,936
(Jonathan) That I think goes

944
00:43:45,936 --> 00:43:46,827
with this picture.

945
00:43:46,827 --> 00:43:48,604
I mean, we have kings coming in,

946
00:43:48,604 --> 00:43:50,140
and here He is fulfilling that,

947
00:43:50,140 --> 00:43:51,390
but it's different.

948
00:43:51,390 --> 00:43:54,602
It's not coming in triumphantly like they

949
00:43:54,602 --> 00:43:56,370
wanted Him to, honestly.

950
00:43:56,370 --> 00:43:58,009
It was this picture, like, there's

951
00:43:58,009 --> 00:43:59,829
something different about this Messiah

952
00:43:59,829 --> 00:44:02,731
that's coming; He's humble,
He's lowly, He's...

953
00:44:02,731 --> 00:44:03,734
(Derek) Riding on...

954
00:44:03,734 --> 00:44:05,823
(Jonathan) Riding a donkey.

955
00:44:05,823 --> 00:44:07,699
(Stephanie) Where are some other places

956
00:44:07,699 --> 00:44:10,070
in the Old Testament Scripture

957
00:44:10,070 --> 00:44:12,420
that speak, that point to Jesus,

958
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:14,419
as the Messiah and that were fulfilled

959
00:44:14,419 --> 00:44:16,453
in the New Testament

960
00:44:16,453 --> 00:44:18,663
in the life of Jesus? Puia.

961
00:44:18,663 --> 00:44:21,645
(Puia) There are a few, like,

962
00:44:21,645 --> 00:44:23,760
to try to summarize and say

963
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,298
that the Bible predicted

964
00:44:25,298 --> 00:44:26,942
where He would be born,

965
00:44:26,942 --> 00:44:28,637
where He would be raised up,

966
00:44:28,637 --> 00:44:31,638
how He would be rejected,

967
00:44:31,638 --> 00:44:33,689
and how He would die.

968
00:44:33,689 --> 00:44:35,354
All those prophecies were written

969
00:44:35,354 --> 00:44:37,702
hundreds and hundreds of years

970
00:44:37,702 --> 00:44:40,799
before Jesus ever showed up on the scene.

971
00:44:40,799 --> 00:44:42,571
(Stephanie) Yes, nice summary.

972
00:44:42,571 --> 00:44:44,586
Thank you. Anyone else?

973
00:44:44,586 --> 00:44:46,079
(Gladys) Also it talks exactly

974
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:47,886
about His crucifixion.

975
00:44:47,886 --> 00:44:49,275
You know, He will be pierced,

976
00:44:49,275 --> 00:44:51,321
He will be rejected, He will be mocked.

977
00:44:51,321 --> 00:44:53,145
So every single detail

978
00:44:53,145 --> 00:44:56,430
of His life was predicted.

979
00:44:56,430 --> 00:45:00,470
(Stephanie) Faith, I see your hand.

980
00:45:00,470 --> 00:45:03,303
(Faith) Yes, it also talks about how He

981
00:45:03,303 --> 00:45:05,205
would be born, how He would be born

982
00:45:05,205 --> 00:45:06,800
through a virgin, and that's

983
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,787
exactly how He was born,

984
00:45:08,787 --> 00:45:11,321
conceived through the Holy Spirit

985
00:45:11,321 --> 00:45:13,185
and born of the virgin Mary.

986
00:45:13,185 --> 00:45:16,163
(Derek) Amen. That's important.

987
00:45:16,163 --> 00:45:17,569
(Stephanie) Jesus' timing,

988
00:45:17,569 --> 00:45:21,298
as we have read through John,

989
00:45:21,298 --> 00:45:22,831
we recognize that there were

990
00:45:22,831 --> 00:45:25,903
times before that they would have

991
00:45:25,903 --> 00:45:28,689
taken Him and killed Him.

992
00:45:28,689 --> 00:45:31,526
But the Bible records

993
00:45:31,526 --> 00:45:34,244
it was not His time.

994
00:45:34,244 --> 00:45:36,081
And I know this is not in our outline,

995
00:45:36,081 --> 00:45:38,053
but I'm just thinking of Galatians,

996
00:45:38,053 --> 00:45:42,124
Galatians, chapter 4, and I believe

997
00:45:42,124 --> 00:45:43,784
it's verses [4 and 5],

998
00:45:43,784 --> 00:45:50,217
Galatians, chapter 4 and verses [4 and 5].

999
00:45:50,217 --> 00:45:51,765
Go ahead, Zandile.

1000
00:45:51,765 --> 00:45:53,431
(Zandile) Okay, and I'll be reading

1001
00:45:53,431 --> 00:45:55,453
from the New King James Version, it says:

1002
00:46:03,955 --> 00:46:05,478
(Stephanie) Alright, do you mind

1003
00:46:05,478 --> 00:46:08,127
reading verse 5 as well?

1004
00:46:08,127 --> 00:46:09,227
(Zandile) Verse 5:

1005
00:46:16,045 --> 00:46:20,621
(Stephanie) Jesus was born on time.

1006
00:46:20,621 --> 00:46:24,131
He went into ministry on time.

1007
00:46:24,131 --> 00:46:26,521
He was crucified on time.

1008
00:46:26,521 --> 00:46:28,971
He raised on time.

1009
00:46:28,971 --> 00:46:30,760
It was all according to prophecy.

1010
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,687
If we look at Daniel, chapter 9,

1011
00:46:32,687 --> 00:46:34,007
which we cannot surround

1012
00:46:34,007 --> 00:46:37,797
in this study today, but Daniel,

1013
00:46:37,797 --> 00:46:44,240
chapter 9, reveals that Jesus fulfilled

1014
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:49,394
the Old Testament prophecies,

1015
00:46:49,394 --> 00:46:52,255
the prophecies of the Old Testament,

1016
00:46:52,255 --> 00:46:55,301
to the T - amazing!

1017
00:46:55,301 --> 00:46:58,570
Now, we could just go home and say,

1018
00:46:58,570 --> 00:47:00,882
"Hey, we proved that that's Jesus," right,

1019
00:47:00,882 --> 00:47:03,082
that Jesus is the Messiah.

1020
00:47:03,082 --> 00:47:06,822
But my question is, does it

1021
00:47:06,822 --> 00:47:12,325
make a difference who we believe Jesus is?

1022
00:47:12,325 --> 00:47:16,150
Does it make a difference? Gladys.

1023
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:17,637
(Gladys) Well, John 17:3 says

1024
00:47:17,637 --> 00:47:20,464
that, "This is eternal life,

1025
00:47:20,464 --> 00:47:24,621
that they may know You, the only true God,

1026
00:47:24,621 --> 00:47:27,003
and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."

1027
00:47:27,003 --> 00:47:29,938
So knowing God, in Him we find salvation.

1028
00:47:29,938 --> 00:47:31,863
So, without knowing that He came,

1029
00:47:31,863 --> 00:47:34,356
He saved, He died for us,

1030
00:47:34,356 --> 00:47:36,024
there is no point to this life.

1031
00:47:36,024 --> 00:47:38,608
(Stephanie) Yes. Geoffrey.

1032
00:47:38,608 --> 00:47:40,083
(Geoffrey) It is very important

1033
00:47:40,083 --> 00:47:42,012
because without such evidence

1034
00:47:42,012 --> 00:47:43,857
how can we truly trust Him,

1035
00:47:43,857 --> 00:47:45,142
and if we can't trust Him,

1036
00:47:45,142 --> 00:47:47,121
how can He save us?

1037
00:47:47,121 --> 00:47:49,568
He reaches out, but if we cannot grab

1038
00:47:49,568 --> 00:47:53,294
His hand in full trust, what's the point?

1039
00:47:53,294 --> 00:47:55,038
(Stephanie) Jonathan.

1040
00:47:55,038 --> 00:47:58,504
(Jonathan) Many religions believe in God.

1041
00:47:58,504 --> 00:48:02,235
And there was a common belief of a god

1042
00:48:02,235 --> 00:48:04,058
that was similar to the Old Testament,

1043
00:48:04,058 --> 00:48:05,884
but if that didn't actually come

1044
00:48:05,884 --> 00:48:08,188
to the revelation of God's character

1045
00:48:08,188 --> 00:48:10,571
in Christ and the actual fulfillment

1046
00:48:10,571 --> 00:48:13,471
of the solving of the sin problem

1047
00:48:13,471 --> 00:48:15,244
and Christ's sacrifice for sin,

1048
00:48:15,244 --> 00:48:16,415
where would we be?

1049
00:48:16,415 --> 00:48:20,171
We would be lost without the true hope.

1050
00:48:20,171 --> 00:48:22,505
(Stephanie) Amen. Scott.

1051
00:48:22,505 --> 00:48:25,355
(Scott) If we had

1052
00:48:25,355 --> 00:48:27,884
just one Old Testament Scripture

1053
00:48:27,884 --> 00:48:30,047
that spoke of Jesus, we might be able

1054
00:48:30,047 --> 00:48:32,234
to look at it and say, "You know,

1055
00:48:32,234 --> 00:48:33,509
you could see it that way,

1056
00:48:33,509 --> 00:48:35,224
or you could see it this way,

1057
00:48:35,224 --> 00:48:38,221
or maybe there's some coincidence there."

1058
00:48:38,221 --> 00:48:39,902
But you start adding more

1059
00:48:39,902 --> 00:48:41,074
and more and more,

1060
00:48:41,074 --> 00:48:43,188
and it becomes abundantly clear
that there is

1061
00:48:43,188 --> 00:48:45,570
only one possible interpretation.

1062
00:48:45,570 --> 00:48:48,524
If you say, "Well, despite all of that,

1063
00:48:48,524 --> 00:48:49,770
I don't believe that Jesus

1064
00:48:49,770 --> 00:48:54,931
is God," basically, if we reject that,

1065
00:48:54,931 --> 00:48:57,151
we are rejecting all of Scripture.

1066
00:48:57,151 --> 00:48:59,521
We're rejecting the whole foundation.

1067
00:48:59,521 --> 00:49:01,808
We have nothing left over

1068
00:49:01,808 --> 00:49:04,221
but essentially secularism.

1069
00:49:04,221 --> 00:49:07,167
Like, it all depends on this.

1070
00:49:07,167 --> 00:49:11,491
You can't pick and choose and say,

1071
00:49:11,491 --> 00:49:13,188
"I want this part, and I'm going

1072
00:49:13,188 --> 00:49:14,857
to be skeptical about this,

1073
00:49:14,857 --> 00:49:18,571
and I'm going to be skeptical about this."

1074
00:49:18,571 --> 00:49:20,277
(Stephanie) Scott, what I'm hearing

1075
00:49:20,277 --> 00:49:21,674
you say, and what I'm hearing

1076
00:49:21,674 --> 00:49:22,598
all of us saying is

1077
00:49:22,598 --> 00:49:24,567
that this is vitally important.

1078
00:49:24,567 --> 00:49:27,478
This has eternal stakes.

1079
00:49:27,478 --> 00:49:28,771
Whether or not we believe

1080
00:49:28,771 --> 00:49:31,305
that Jesus is the Messiah,

1081
00:49:31,305 --> 00:49:33,008
it has eternal results.

1082
00:49:33,008 --> 00:49:34,686
Derek, did you want to add to that?

1083
00:49:34,686 --> 00:49:36,195
(Derek) You know, someone said,

1084
00:49:36,195 --> 00:49:37,779
"I'm not a statistician,"

1085
00:49:37,779 --> 00:49:39,637
but someone said, "The chances

1086
00:49:39,637 --> 00:49:41,426
of someone else fulfilling one

1087
00:49:41,426 --> 00:49:43,732
of those prophecies is possible."

1088
00:49:43,732 --> 00:49:45,090
Many other people were born

1089
00:49:45,090 --> 00:49:46,777
in Bethlehem, right?

1090
00:49:46,777 --> 00:49:52,042
But, again, the statistical likelihood

1091
00:49:52,042 --> 00:49:54,065
of fulfilling two or three or four,

1092
00:49:54,065 --> 00:49:55,691
and then you get up to scores

1093
00:49:55,691 --> 00:49:58,365
of prophecies, I mean, it is

1094
00:49:58,365 --> 00:50:01,201
absolutely impossible for that

1095
00:50:01,201 --> 00:50:03,122
to happen by chance.

1096
00:50:03,122 --> 00:50:05,198
You either have to, like Scott said,

1097
00:50:05,198 --> 00:50:07,421
discard the whole Bible or say,

1098
00:50:07,421 --> 00:50:08,945
"Well, it must have been written

1099
00:50:08,945 --> 00:50:11,487
after it happened," or something.

1100
00:50:11,487 --> 00:50:13,775
But if you read the Bible

1101
00:50:13,775 --> 00:50:15,952
with the confidence that Jesus had

1102
00:50:15,952 --> 00:50:18,089
in the Scriptures, you have

1103
00:50:18,089 --> 00:50:20,164
to come to the conclusion

1104
00:50:20,164 --> 00:50:22,468
that He is who He claimed to be.

1105
00:50:22,468 --> 00:50:25,412
And more than that, as you pointed out,

1106
00:50:25,412 --> 00:50:27,636
to realize that He wants us

1107
00:50:27,636 --> 00:50:31,171
to have life through His name.

1108
00:50:31,171 --> 00:50:33,041
(Stephanie) Amen. So here's

1109
00:50:33,041 --> 00:50:34,162
my next question.

1110
00:50:34,162 --> 00:50:35,482
Thank you, Derek.

1111
00:50:35,482 --> 00:50:38,518
My next question is this: There is someone

1112
00:50:38,518 --> 00:50:41,437
who may be watching us today

1113
00:50:41,437 --> 00:50:46,804
who is saying, "You're just applying

1114
00:50:46,804 --> 00:50:49,837
Scripture to Jesus."

1115
00:50:49,837 --> 00:50:51,284
(Derek) Trying to make it fit.

1116
00:50:51,284 --> 00:50:53,792
(Stephanie) Right, "Jesus

1117
00:50:53,792 --> 00:50:56,167
really wasn't the Messiah."

1118
00:50:56,167 --> 00:50:59,018
How would you respond to that person?

1119
00:50:59,018 --> 00:51:02,485
Remember, eternal destiny at stake.

1120
00:51:02,485 --> 00:51:06,271
How would you respond to that person?
Derek.

1121
00:51:06,271 --> 00:51:07,365
(Derek) I will respond,

1122
00:51:07,365 --> 00:51:09,737
since I raised the question, and say,

1123
00:51:09,737 --> 00:51:11,391
slow down and realize

1124
00:51:11,391 --> 00:51:13,394
our first responsibility is

1125
00:51:13,394 --> 00:51:15,771
to love that person.

1126
00:51:15,771 --> 00:51:18,054
And our second responsibility,

1127
00:51:18,054 --> 00:51:19,172
which I think Jonathan

1128
00:51:19,172 --> 00:51:20,468
has been emphasizing,

1129
00:51:20,468 --> 00:51:22,627
is to, ourselves, be a revelation

1130
00:51:22,627 --> 00:51:25,247
of the immeasurable, unfailing love
of God.

1131
00:51:25,247 --> 00:51:27,252
If we just pounce on, "Well, look at this,

1132
00:51:27,252 --> 00:51:29,281
and this and this," I don't think people

1133
00:51:29,281 --> 00:51:32,448
are persuaded simply by information.

1134
00:51:32,448 --> 00:51:35,507
(Stephanie) Amen. Thank you very much.
Joshua.

1135
00:51:35,507 --> 00:51:36,807
(Joshua) I would also say

1136
00:51:36,807 --> 00:51:39,428
to really confront the person and try

1137
00:51:39,428 --> 00:51:40,938
to help them to acknowledge

1138
00:51:40,938 --> 00:51:43,138
the deeper fears that they have.

1139
00:51:43,138 --> 00:51:45,272
I believe that it takes a deep amount

1140
00:51:45,272 --> 00:51:48,644
of humility and understanding

1141
00:51:48,644 --> 00:51:53,787
to be able to reprogram or to acknowledge

1142
00:51:53,787 --> 00:51:56,158
truth that is new to you,

1143
00:51:56,158 --> 00:51:58,234
to accept new light into your life.

1144
00:51:58,234 --> 00:52:00,198
I have a massive amount of respect

1145
00:52:00,198 --> 00:52:03,733
for anyone out there who has converted

1146
00:52:03,733 --> 00:52:06,648
from one faith to the Christian faith,

1147
00:52:06,648 --> 00:52:10,537
because when you...listen, we could get

1148
00:52:10,537 --> 00:52:12,314
people of every single faith

1149
00:52:12,314 --> 00:52:14,327
into this room, the most scholarly

1150
00:52:14,327 --> 00:52:16,114
of each and every religion,

1151
00:52:16,114 --> 00:52:17,973
but the truth of the matter is,

1152
00:52:17,973 --> 00:52:19,362
only one of them is

1153
00:52:19,362 --> 00:52:21,609
honestly and truly right.

1154
00:52:21,609 --> 00:52:22,766
So you may be passionate

1155
00:52:22,766 --> 00:52:23,888
about what you believe,

1156
00:52:23,888 --> 00:52:25,935
you may have believed it all of your life,

1157
00:52:25,935 --> 00:52:27,513
it could have been your father's,

1158
00:52:27,513 --> 00:52:29,520
grandfather's, great-grandfather's faith,

1159
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,815
but the reality is, there is one truth.

1160
00:52:32,815 --> 00:52:35,052
And so we need to seek that truth,

1161
00:52:35,052 --> 00:52:36,865
and if we're being real here, when it

1162
00:52:36,865 --> 00:52:38,315
comes to Jesus, and you hinted

1163
00:52:38,315 --> 00:52:40,458
at it, too, Derek, is that, are you

1164
00:52:40,458 --> 00:52:42,536
honestly expecting someone else

1165
00:52:42,536 --> 00:52:46,584
to come riding on a donkey in 2024?

1166
00:52:46,584 --> 00:52:48,406
Are you expecting him to come

1167
00:52:48,406 --> 00:52:50,526
riding on a donkey, to be crucified,

1168
00:52:50,526 --> 00:52:52,239
to fulfill all of these prophecies.

1169
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,348
Are we being real here?

1170
00:52:55,348 --> 00:52:59,197
So, if you can just acknowledge, "Hey,

1171
00:52:59,197 --> 00:53:02,255
maybe I've been wrong all this time,

1172
00:53:02,255 --> 00:53:05,104
and I should accept the truth today

1173
00:53:05,104 --> 00:53:07,100
and turn away from what I've known

1174
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,756
so that I can have eternal life,

1175
00:53:08,756 --> 00:53:10,469
so that I can put my family

1176
00:53:10,469 --> 00:53:11,990
on the right path, so that I can

1177
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:14,946
look forward and live according

1178
00:53:14,946 --> 00:53:18,364
to God's will, walking

1179
00:53:18,364 --> 00:53:19,622
from this day forward."

1180
00:53:19,622 --> 00:53:20,562
(Derek, Team) Amen.

1181
00:53:20,562 --> 00:53:21,974
(Stephanie) We're going to go

1182
00:53:21,974 --> 00:53:22,952
to one last comment.

1183
00:53:22,952 --> 00:53:24,105
Mighty, I see your hand.

1184
00:53:24,105 --> 00:53:27,354
And after you share your comment,

1185
00:53:27,354 --> 00:53:28,377
we're going to look

1186
00:53:28,377 --> 00:53:30,589
at 2 Corinthians 4, verse 4,

1187
00:53:30,589 --> 00:53:34,233
as we bring it to a close.

1188
00:53:34,233 --> 00:53:35,702
(Mighty) Joshua said something

1189
00:53:35,702 --> 00:53:38,192
really resonated a chord in me,

1190
00:53:38,192 --> 00:53:41,713
and that is, someone seeking the truth.

1191
00:53:41,713 --> 00:53:43,053
And I think that's

1192
00:53:43,053 --> 00:53:45,834
the most important factor.

1193
00:53:45,834 --> 00:53:46,895
You don't need to have

1194
00:53:46,895 --> 00:53:49,153
an extensive knowledge of the prophecies

1195
00:53:49,153 --> 00:53:52,786
in the Bible in order to believe Christ.

1196
00:53:52,786 --> 00:53:54,102
A story comes to mind

1197
00:53:54,102 --> 00:53:57,462
of when the centurion came to Jesus,

1198
00:53:57,462 --> 00:53:59,622
and he came with such great faith

1199
00:53:59,622 --> 00:54:01,329
that [he said to] Jesus,

1200
00:54:01,329 --> 00:54:03,809
"You just have to speak the word,

1201
00:54:03,809 --> 00:54:06,206
and my child will be healed."

1202
00:54:06,206 --> 00:54:07,595
And Jesus Himself commented,

1203
00:54:07,595 --> 00:54:09,702
"I have not seen such great faith."

1204
00:54:09,702 --> 00:54:11,623
What was different about this person?

1205
00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:13,099
He was a Gentile who didn't

1206
00:54:13,099 --> 00:54:14,409
know the Scripture.

1207
00:54:14,409 --> 00:54:17,521
He heard of Christ, and he believed.

1208
00:54:17,521 --> 00:54:21,548
He had a love of the truth.

1209
00:54:21,548 --> 00:54:24,203
I think that's what's very important.

1210
00:54:24,203 --> 00:54:26,670
And there's a verse I want to read

1211
00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:30,805
in 2 Thessalonians, chapter 2.

1212
00:54:30,805 --> 00:54:33,698
(Stephanie) Chapter 2,

1213
00:54:33,698 --> 00:54:35,178
2 Thessalonians, chapter 2,

1214
00:54:35,178 --> 00:54:37,389
and which verses or verse

1215
00:54:37,389 --> 00:54:39,212
did you want to read, Mighty?

1216
00:54:39,212 --> 00:54:40,318
(Mighty) I want to look

1217
00:54:40,318 --> 00:54:43,519
at verses 10 to 12.

1218
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:45,822
(Stephanie) Alright. As we close,

1219
00:54:45,822 --> 00:54:51,593
we'll close on these few verses, alright?

1220
00:54:51,593 --> 00:54:52,592
(Mighty) I'm reading

1221
00:54:52,592 --> 00:54:54,902
the King James Version:

1222
00:55:20,292 --> 00:55:22,485
So I think this is really important,

1223
00:55:22,485 --> 00:55:24,285
that we have that love of the truth

1224
00:55:24,285 --> 00:55:26,720
no matter how inconvenient it may be

1225
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:28,654
or how it goes against things

1226
00:55:28,654 --> 00:55:30,652
that we love on this earth.

1227
00:55:30,652 --> 00:55:34,269
And if we have the love of truth,

1228
00:55:34,269 --> 00:55:35,909
we'll be able to believe the Word

1229
00:55:35,909 --> 00:55:37,419
that comes to us plainly.

1230
00:55:37,419 --> 00:55:39,402
(Derek, Team) Amen.

1231
00:55:39,402 --> 00:55:40,988
(Stephanie) Thank you very much.

1232
00:55:40,988 --> 00:55:42,386
Thank you, Mighty.

1233
00:55:42,386 --> 00:55:44,638
It reminds us of how relevant

1234
00:55:44,638 --> 00:55:46,385
this is for us today.

1235
00:55:46,385 --> 00:55:49,873
May God help us not only to be a witness

1236
00:55:49,873 --> 00:55:51,605
but to also stay connected to Him

1237
00:55:51,605 --> 00:55:55,189
so that we can be confident in His Word.

1238
00:55:55,189 --> 00:55:55,909
(Team) Amen.

1239
00:55:55,909 --> 00:55:57,316
(Derek) Thank you, Stephanie.

1240
00:55:57,316 --> 00:55:58,673
What a reminder today,

1241
00:55:58,673 --> 00:55:59,972
wherever you are watching

1242
00:55:59,972 --> 00:56:01,611
as our Hope Sabbath School family.

1243
00:56:01,611 --> 00:56:03,897
It's not enough to know the truth.

1244
00:56:03,897 --> 00:56:05,159
We need to love the truth.

1245
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:06,433
And by the way, the truth

1246
00:56:06,433 --> 00:56:07,609
is not just information.

1247
00:56:07,609 --> 00:56:09,375
The truth is Jesus.

1248
00:56:09,375 --> 00:56:11,475
We need to love Him

1249
00:56:11,475 --> 00:56:13,236
and know Him personally,

1250
00:56:13,236 --> 00:56:14,927
whom to know is life eternal.

1251
00:56:14,927 --> 00:56:16,793
Let's pray; Lord God, we've seen

1252
00:56:16,793 --> 00:56:18,213
much evidence today

1253
00:56:18,213 --> 00:56:19,960
from the Hebrew Scriptures,

1254
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,658
inspiration of God provided

1255
00:56:22,658 --> 00:56:24,243
through the prophets to give us

1256
00:56:24,243 --> 00:56:27,142
evidence that Jesus is the Christ,

1257
00:56:27,142 --> 00:56:29,645
the fulfillment of all of the prophecies,

1258
00:56:29,645 --> 00:56:31,546
all of the hopes of Your people

1259
00:56:31,546 --> 00:56:33,261
through the ages.

1260
00:56:33,261 --> 00:56:36,144
We choose to believe and to love the truth

1261
00:56:36,144 --> 00:56:37,323
as it is in Jesus.

1262
00:56:37,323 --> 00:56:39,379
In Jesus' name. Amen.

1263
00:56:39,379 --> 00:56:40,619
(Team) Amen.

1264
00:56:40,619 --> 00:56:43,138
(Derek) Thanks for joining us
for Hope Sabbath School.

1265
00:56:43,138 --> 00:56:43,875
What a journey!

1266
00:56:43,875 --> 00:56:45,166
So much to learn,

1267
00:56:45,166 --> 00:56:47,348
pointing us to Jesus our Savior.

1268
00:56:47,348 --> 00:56:48,907
Go out now, be a blessing

1269
00:56:48,907 --> 00:56:50,098
to those around you.

1270
00:56:50,098 --> 00:57:14,242
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