WEBVTT 00:00:01.207 --> 00:00:03.901 What's the worst that can happen? 00:00:04.293 --> 00:00:06.786 Almost exactly 10 years ago, 00:00:06.786 --> 00:00:10.505 I was sitting in an exam room that was way too cold 00:00:10.505 --> 00:00:12.841 waiting to meet my new oncologist. 00:00:13.058 --> 00:00:14.443 I was terrified. 00:00:14.443 --> 00:00:17.002 Even though my partner at the time 00:00:17.002 --> 00:00:19.121 was sitting right by my side, 00:00:19.121 --> 00:00:21.672 I felt completely alone. 00:00:21.672 --> 00:00:24.491 I had just been diagnosed with breast cancer, 00:00:24.491 --> 00:00:26.535 and it seemed at the time 00:00:26.535 --> 00:00:29.804 that a single bright spot on a scan of my right lung 00:00:30.155 --> 00:00:33.540 meant that the cancer had already spread. 00:00:33.941 --> 00:00:36.533 I had metastatic breast cancer. 00:00:36.916 --> 00:00:39.404 I had no medical training at this point, 00:00:39.404 --> 00:00:42.339 but I knew what it meant if it were true: 00:00:42.339 --> 00:00:44.923 incurable breast cancer. 00:00:45.849 --> 00:00:48.367 Terminal breast cancer. 00:00:49.218 --> 00:00:51.704 I was 27 years old, 00:00:51.704 --> 00:00:54.288 had just been accepted to medical school, 00:00:54.288 --> 00:00:58.653 and I wondered if I was already at the end of my life. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:58.653 --> 00:01:03.221 My new oncologist was not a warm person. 00:01:03.872 --> 00:01:06.998 She dealt in simple facts, 00:01:06.998 --> 00:01:09.834 as many brilliant physicians do. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:10.018 --> 00:01:13.187 "Our body is made up of cells," she started. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:13.187 --> 00:01:15.996 I stopped her. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:15.996 --> 00:01:18.598 "I'm starting medical school soon. 00:01:18.598 --> 00:01:20.467 I know." NOTE Paragraph 00:01:20.467 --> 00:01:25.021 Instead of taking this as a signal to go backward, to start again, 00:01:25.021 --> 00:01:27.463 she went forward. 00:01:27.463 --> 00:01:30.081 She said that I would need to start on chemotherapy 00:01:30.081 --> 00:01:31.373 to control the cancer. 00:01:31.373 --> 00:01:34.992 She launched into the details of the drug and the side effects 00:01:34.992 --> 00:01:36.444 and the schedule. 00:01:36.444 --> 00:01:40.797 I reminded her that we hadn't even yet biopsied the bright spot on my lung, 00:01:40.797 --> 00:01:44.474 and I asked if she was sure that it was cancer. 00:01:45.425 --> 00:01:50.914 I remember viscerally how she seemed almost frustrated with my question. 00:01:50.914 --> 00:01:54.490 Perhaps she thought I wasn't following along with her explanations, 00:01:54.490 --> 00:01:56.826 or, worse still, I was in denial. 00:01:58.166 --> 00:02:01.587 I simply wanted her to understand that, as her patient, 00:02:01.587 --> 00:02:06.897 the biopsy was not just a mere formality to prove an already foregone conclusion. 00:02:06.897 --> 00:02:11.168 It was a steel needle through skin, muscle and bone 00:02:11.168 --> 00:02:15.646 that would deliver a deep piece of me to the surface and answer a question 00:02:15.646 --> 00:02:18.365 I wish didn't have to be asked. 00:02:18.649 --> 00:02:22.668 Before the biopsy, I could be a 27-year old woman 00:02:22.668 --> 00:02:25.813 who might have metastatic breast cancer, 00:02:25.813 --> 00:02:29.198 who probably had metastatic breast cancer. 00:02:29.198 --> 00:02:31.767 This is a critical distinction, 00:02:31.767 --> 00:02:35.894 but it's not one that's emphasized in the most elite oncology training. 00:02:36.248 --> 00:02:41.103 Instead, I was dismissed with an appointment to start treatment 00:02:41.103 --> 00:02:42.821 in just a few weeks. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:43.571 --> 00:02:47.333 So much has happened since that first visit. 00:02:47.333 --> 00:02:50.786 Ironically, the biopsy was not just a mere formality. 00:02:50.786 --> 00:02:53.571 My former oncologist was right. 00:02:53.571 --> 00:02:56.297 It did show cancer, 00:02:56.297 --> 00:03:00.301 but it was a totally separate lung cancer, 00:03:00.301 --> 00:03:02.502 and as crazy as it sounds, 00:03:02.502 --> 00:03:04.778 this was great news. 00:03:04.994 --> 00:03:08.181 I did not have metastatic breast cancer, 00:03:08.181 --> 00:03:10.033 I had two different cancers, 00:03:10.033 --> 00:03:12.134 but both of them were localized, 00:03:12.134 --> 00:03:15.378 and so the lung cancer was localized enough 00:03:15.378 --> 00:03:16.930 that it could be removed. 00:03:16.930 --> 00:03:20.584 And so the onslaught of treatments began with a lung surgery, 00:03:20.584 --> 00:03:23.068 continued with chemotherapy, 00:03:23.068 --> 00:03:27.814 and ended with a breast surgery just after my 28th birthday. 00:03:27.814 --> 00:03:29.815 And then two weeks later, 00:03:29.815 --> 00:03:32.867 I started medical school. 00:03:32.867 --> 00:03:35.978 My new oncologist, 00:03:35.978 --> 00:03:40.064 who deals much more fluidly both with facts and their implications, 00:03:40.530 --> 00:03:42.583 very reasonably suggested 00:03:42.583 --> 00:03:45.876 that I should defer my acceptance to medical school for a year, 00:03:45.876 --> 00:03:49.011 take some time to rest, to recover, 00:03:49.011 --> 00:03:52.748 and I trusted her advice. 00:03:52.748 --> 00:03:56.743 I felt terrible during the intensive chemotherapy sessions. 00:03:56.743 --> 00:03:58.461 And so I wrote to the Dean. 00:03:58.461 --> 00:04:00.346 I explained my circumstances, 00:04:00.346 --> 00:04:02.648 and a deferral was speedily granted. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:03.683 --> 00:04:06.191 But as the chemo fog lifted, 00:04:06.191 --> 00:04:09.478 I wondered what I was going to do with a year. 00:04:09.478 --> 00:04:12.847 Should I go to the beach? 00:04:13.282 --> 00:04:15.998 I wasn't really a beach person. 00:04:15.998 --> 00:04:17.099 (Laughter) 00:04:17.099 --> 00:04:20.402 And how many years did I have left anyway? 00:04:21.153 --> 00:04:23.512 I really wanted to go to medical school. 00:04:23.512 --> 00:04:26.648 It seemed like a missing piece of my puzzle. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:26.848 --> 00:04:30.703 So instead of going around and around with indecision, 00:04:30.703 --> 00:04:33.611 I asked myself, what's the worst that could happen? 00:04:33.611 --> 00:04:37.065 Well, I could be too weak or too sick to do the work. 00:04:37.065 --> 00:04:39.467 It could be too hard for me emotionally. 00:04:39.467 --> 00:04:42.443 I could fail out of medical school. 00:04:42.443 --> 00:04:46.346 But then I remembered, that wouldn't be the worst thing that happened to me 00:04:46.346 --> 00:04:47.481 even that year. 00:04:47.481 --> 00:04:51.217 So why not get started? 00:04:51.217 --> 00:04:53.125 Why not continue living the way that I wanted to live? 00:04:53.125 --> 00:04:56.563 So I did. 00:04:56.563 --> 00:04:58.580 Bald and rail thin, 00:04:58.580 --> 00:05:02.201 I put on my best earrings and my favorite dress, 00:05:02.201 --> 00:05:04.843 and I started. 00:05:04.843 --> 00:05:06.094 I pretended to belong, 00:05:06.094 --> 00:05:08.212 and I began to. 00:05:08.212 --> 00:05:12.016 There is no way to describe how hard it was. 00:05:12.016 --> 00:05:13.875 Some days it felt impossible. 00:05:13.875 --> 00:05:18.440 It felt as I was doing things that would never matter in the future. 00:05:18.440 --> 00:05:21.982 But every day, I asked myself, are you still enjoying this? 00:05:21.982 --> 00:05:24.825 Is this still what you want to be doing? 00:05:24.825 --> 00:05:26.977 And every day, the answer was yes, 00:05:26.977 --> 00:05:29.847 sometimes a very qualified yes, 00:05:29.847 --> 00:05:31.564 but a yes. 00:05:31.564 --> 00:05:33.839 And then, just as I was getting comfortable 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:37.360 and feeling like I might not necessarily fail out of medical school, 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:40.562 I received even more devastating news. 00:05:40.562 --> 00:05:47.159 I learned that I had a mutation in a gene called TP53, or p53 for short. 00:05:47.159 --> 00:05:50.446 Known as the guardian of the genome, 00:05:50.446 --> 00:05:56.492 a mutation, p53 is responsible for supervising the repair of our DNA. 00:05:56.492 --> 00:05:59.645 A mutation in this gene means errors go uncorrected. 00:05:59.645 --> 00:06:03.621 It means that normal cells become cancerous at a much higher rate. 00:06:04.739 --> 00:06:07.241 All of a sudden, with this knowledge, 00:06:07.241 --> 00:06:10.187 my medical history made a terrible kind of sense. 00:06:10.187 --> 00:06:13.787 I had had a childhood cancer -- rhabdomyosarcoma -- at age seven. 00:06:13.787 --> 00:06:16.756 It recurred when I was a teenager. 00:06:16.756 --> 00:06:20.626 And this was all before p53 had been discovered in the lab. 00:06:20.626 --> 00:06:24.636 Then I'd had young adult breast and lung cancers. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:24.636 --> 00:06:26.989 With the knowledge of this mutation, 00:06:26.989 --> 00:06:30.491 it seemed that there was likely no end to the number of cancers 00:06:30.491 --> 00:06:32.733 that I could expect in my future. 00:06:32.950 --> 00:06:35.353 And yet, 00:06:35.353 --> 00:06:39.274 I decided to become a radiation oncologist. 00:06:39.274 --> 00:06:40.308 (Laughter) 00:06:40.308 --> 00:06:44.186 I hoped to graduate from residency in just a few months, 00:06:44.186 --> 00:06:46.622 move to a new city, 00:06:46.622 --> 00:06:48.240 and start my first real job 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.883 as a doctor and researcher, 00:06:51.883 --> 00:06:54.218 because of grit, 00:06:54.218 --> 00:06:55.704 because of privilege, 00:06:55.704 --> 00:06:57.572 because of therapy, 00:06:57.572 --> 00:07:01.729 because of my medical teams and my family and my teachers, 00:07:02.675 --> 00:07:08.688 because genetic diagnoses 00:07:08.688 --> 00:07:09.477 should give us the knowledge to move forward. 00:07:09.477 --> 00:07:12.408 And even in the year 2020, 00:07:12.408 --> 00:07:15.567 that generally doesn't mean miracle cures or medical breakthroughs. 00:07:15.567 --> 00:07:20.067 Having a devastating genetic diagnosis 00:07:20.067 --> 00:07:23.961 means learning to live with uncertainty. 00:07:23.961 --> 00:07:27.938 It means learning that you, and your diagnosis, 00:07:27.938 --> 00:07:30.775 are not the worst thing that could happen. 00:07:30.775 --> 00:07:32.982 Learning to live with uncertainty 00:07:32.982 --> 00:07:35.603 means walking forward into a life 00:07:35.603 --> 00:07:39.773 that is as full of beauty as it is of challenges. 00:07:40.173 --> 00:07:45.204 It means learning for yourself that cancer is just part of your story. 00:07:45.204 --> 00:07:47.739 It may not be the worst thing that happens to you, 00:07:47.739 --> 00:07:49.593 and if it is, that's OK. 00:07:49.593 --> 00:07:52.134 You can claim that, and you can own that, 00:07:52.134 --> 00:07:55.008 but let that be a narrative that you author and you authorize, 00:07:55.008 --> 00:07:59.112 not one that's prescribed to you by someone else. 00:07:59.112 --> 00:08:01.281 Have your deferral letter in hand, but use it on your terms. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:01.281 --> 00:08:04.267 As I come to the end of my oncology training, 00:08:04.267 --> 00:08:07.893 I have deja vu again and again with the following scenario. 00:08:07.893 --> 00:08:12.199 A patient has cancer. 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:14.160 There are several options, 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:20.533 all of which offer a different balance between cure and quality of life, 00:08:20.533 --> 00:08:24.427 between the possibility of alleviating suffering 00:08:24.427 --> 00:08:29.515 and the possibility of causing suffering. 00:08:29.515 --> 00:08:31.073 An oncologist lays out the options, 00:08:31.073 --> 00:08:33.057 but, somewhere in the discussion, things get skewed. 00:08:33.057 --> 00:08:35.327 The choice becomes something more like, 00:08:35.327 --> 00:08:38.312 well, you could choose to do something 00:08:38.312 --> 00:08:41.522 or you could choose to do nothing. 00:08:41.522 --> 00:08:43.958 We could be aggressive 00:08:43.958 --> 00:08:45.993 and treat your cancer, 00:08:45.993 --> 00:08:48.028 or we could watch it, 00:08:48.028 --> 00:08:51.705 and 9.9 times out of 10, the patient says, 00:08:51.705 --> 00:08:54.724 "I want to do everything I can do." 00:08:54.941 --> 00:08:56.659 Of course. 00:08:56.659 --> 00:08:59.930 Who wouldn't want everything? 00:09:00.280 --> 00:09:02.925 But what is everything? 00:09:02.925 --> 00:09:08.729 Is everything the ability to sit in your own home in front of your window 00:09:08.729 --> 00:09:11.823 bathed in sunshine and surrounded by family? 00:09:12.041 --> 00:09:16.811 Is everything still being able to feel your fingers and your toes 00:09:16.811 --> 00:09:20.021 because they haven't gone numb from chemotherapy. 00:09:20.021 --> 00:09:22.390 As oncologists, our everything is cancer treatment. 00:09:22.390 --> 00:09:30.038 It's radiation and surgery and chemotherapy and novel treatments. 00:09:30.038 --> 00:09:33.323 And for us, the worst thing that could happen, 00:09:33.323 --> 00:09:35.826 and I have heard more than one oncologist say this, 00:09:35.826 --> 00:09:38.244 the worst thing that could happen is that the patient will develop 00:09:38.244 --> 00:09:39.903 metastatic disease. 00:09:39.903 --> 00:09:43.723 Or, the worst thing that could happen is that five years from now, 00:09:43.723 --> 00:09:47.293 the cancer will grow and I'll have to give more radiation. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:47.293 --> 00:09:49.936 As a patient and as an oncologist, 00:09:49.936 --> 00:09:54.072 I would never argue that these are not devastating outcomes. 00:09:54.072 --> 00:09:56.124 But are they the worst? 00:09:56.124 --> 00:09:58.493 Should cancer control, 00:09:58.493 --> 00:10:03.774 be at the center, of our thinking always? 00:10:03.774 --> 00:10:11.036 Many unspeakably, unfathomably painful and brutal things have happened to me 00:10:11.036 --> 00:10:15.005 because of my cancers and my genetic mutation. 00:10:15.005 --> 00:10:19.332 And yet, I consider myself very lucky indeed, 00:10:19.332 --> 00:10:23.236 because the worst thing that could happen never came to pass, 00:10:23.236 --> 00:10:28.474 because I have let devastation and uncertainty sit at the table, 00:10:28.474 --> 00:10:30.899 but somewhere off to the side. 00:10:30.899 --> 00:10:33.618 When I was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer, 00:10:33.618 --> 00:10:37.722 I went to Boston for a second opinion, because what could I lose? 00:10:37.722 --> 00:10:40.715 When my oncologist gave me very good and very safe 00:10:40.715 --> 00:10:42.501 and very standard advice, 00:10:42.501 --> 00:10:44.402 I started medical school anyway, 00:10:44.402 --> 00:10:48.072 even though I was undergoing active cancer treatment. 00:10:48.323 --> 00:10:51.933 Instead of shying away from patients with cancer, 00:10:51.933 --> 00:10:54.067 I became a radiation oncologist, 00:10:54.067 --> 00:10:57.304 and I work with patients who are very much like me 00:10:57.304 --> 00:10:58.556 every single day. 00:10:58.556 --> 00:11:03.733 Instead of imagining the suffering that I might cause to a future partner 00:11:03.733 --> 00:11:05.818 when I died of cancer, 00:11:05.818 --> 00:11:09.245 I married my wonderful husband. 00:11:09.446 --> 00:11:13.449 Because, the worst thing that can happen 00:11:13.449 --> 00:11:15.023 is always a series of negatives. 00:11:15.023 --> 00:11:17.469 It's blank spaces 00:11:17.469 --> 00:11:19.878 that should be filled with life. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:20.613 --> 00:11:27.336 So what is the most that I have leaned in to this kind of radical uncertainty? 00:11:27.918 --> 00:11:31.062 Well, this is William. 00:11:32.263 --> 00:11:37.618 He is the most joyful person that I have ever met, 00:11:38.802 --> 00:11:44.464 and in just over a year, he has already made the world a better place. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:45.448 --> 00:11:50.521 As oncologists, we talk to our patients 00:11:50.521 --> 00:11:52.428 as if the worst thing that could happen 00:11:52.428 --> 00:11:54.680 is that their cancer could come back, 00:11:54.680 --> 00:11:57.867 or that it could spread, or that they could die from it. 00:11:58.301 --> 00:12:01.860 As a patient, I know that these are paramount, 00:12:01.860 --> 00:12:04.247 but I want to change the way that we think about this, 00:12:04.247 --> 00:12:08.382 and I want to change the way that we talk about this with our patients. 00:12:08.549 --> 00:12:09.924 As a patient, 00:12:09.924 --> 00:12:14.679 the worst thing that can happen is that cancer robs you of opportunity, 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:17.232 of the ability to be and to do 00:12:17.232 --> 00:12:19.350 and to love. 00:12:20.291 --> 00:12:21.725 And it will. 00:12:21.725 --> 00:12:25.112 At least, temporarily, it will. 00:12:25.112 --> 00:12:28.365 But to minimize this loss of life in the living, 00:12:28.365 --> 00:12:31.507 that is the harder 00:12:31.507 --> 00:12:34.710 and I would say truer job of the oncologist: 00:12:34.710 --> 00:12:39.097 to take all the tools that we have and situate them in the context 00:12:39.097 --> 00:12:41.775 of a patient's whole entire life; 00:12:41.775 --> 00:12:45.877 to be guides for how to sit with suffering, 00:12:45.877 --> 00:12:47.996 acknowledge it deeply, 00:12:47.996 --> 00:12:54.275 but to not let fear of future suffering be the narrative for the journey forward. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:54.275 --> 00:12:56.413 One of my mentors always says, 00:12:56.413 --> 00:13:00.016 the medicine part is easy, 00:13:00.016 --> 00:13:03.270 and it never feels that way to a junior doctor, 00:13:03.270 --> 00:13:06.862 but it's contours are finite. 00:13:06.862 --> 00:13:13.735 We have big studies to guide us, and it's what we learn to do in residency. 00:13:13.735 --> 00:13:21.032 Much harder is learning how to help each patient navigate the multitudes 00:13:21.032 --> 00:13:24.185 contained in their illness. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:24.786 --> 00:13:28.696 So I find it really funny 00:13:28.696 --> 00:13:33.033 that, in retrospect, my life looks like a neat package. 00:13:33.033 --> 00:13:37.427 It looks as if I planned each successive step, 00:13:37.427 --> 00:13:42.166 and that perhaps cancer has led to the good things in my life. 00:13:42.465 --> 00:13:45.910 Step one: apply to medical school. 00:13:45.910 --> 00:13:49.496 Step two: get diagnosed with and treated for cancer. 00:13:49.496 --> 00:13:52.122 And step three: have it all, 00:13:52.122 --> 00:13:56.584 a career and a family. 00:13:56.584 --> 00:13:58.394 But I will tell you 00:13:58.394 --> 00:14:02.888 that each phase was a leap of faith 00:14:02.888 --> 00:14:08.476 despite an almost paralyzing uncertainty. 00:14:08.476 --> 00:14:10.061 And so it's that courage 00:14:10.061 --> 00:14:13.438 that I try to give to each of my patients. 00:14:13.621 --> 00:14:17.858 I try to do this regardless of the technical medical details 00:14:17.858 --> 00:14:21.028 of cancers and treatment decisions 00:14:21.028 --> 00:14:22.069 and mutations, 00:14:22.069 --> 00:14:25.555 regardless of the slippery fiction 00:14:25.555 --> 00:14:26.756 of prognosis. 00:14:26.756 --> 00:14:29.659 I try to learn what they want 00:14:29.659 --> 00:14:31.619 and what they need, 00:14:31.619 --> 00:14:35.037 what they wish and what they worry, 00:14:36.438 --> 00:14:39.859 what they dream about, 00:14:39.859 --> 00:14:42.735 what animated them before 00:14:43.489 --> 00:14:49.761 and what will sustain them during the beastly process of cancer treatment. 00:14:51.329 --> 00:14:54.571 It doesn't actually take that much time. 00:14:55.540 --> 00:15:00.677 It does take a few focused, quiet moments 00:15:00.677 --> 00:15:03.803 that require intentional cultivation. 00:15:04.956 --> 00:15:08.408 But this is partnership, 00:15:08.408 --> 00:15:10.911 and it matters, 00:15:11.745 --> 00:15:14.538 because the worst thing that can happen 00:15:14.538 --> 00:15:19.359 is to have an oncologist who does everything, 00:15:19.359 --> 00:15:24.103 everything to help cure your cancer 00:15:24.103 --> 00:15:29.024 and who does nothing to help you live your life. NOTE Paragraph 00:15:29.675 --> 00:15:31.927 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:15:31.927 --> 00:15:35.937 (Applause)