0:00:01.207,0:00:03.901 What's the worst that can happen? 0:00:04.293,0:00:06.786 Almost exactly 10 years ago, 0:00:06.786,0:00:10.505 I was sitting in an exam room[br]that was way too cold 0:00:10.505,0:00:12.841 waiting to meet my new oncologist. 0:00:13.058,0:00:14.443 I was terrified. 0:00:14.443,0:00:17.002 Even though my partner at the time 0:00:17.002,0:00:19.121 was sitting right by my side, 0:00:19.121,0:00:21.672 I felt completely alone. 0:00:21.672,0:00:24.491 I had just been diagnosed[br]with breast cancer, 0:00:24.491,0:00:26.535 and it seemed at the time 0:00:26.535,0:00:29.804 that a single bright spot[br]on a scan of my right lung 0:00:30.155,0:00:33.540 meant that the cancer had already spread. 0:00:33.941,0:00:36.533 I had metastatic breast cancer. 0:00:36.916,0:00:39.404 I had no medical training at this point, 0:00:39.404,0:00:42.339 but I knew what it meant if it were true: 0:00:42.339,0:00:44.923 incurable breast cancer. 0:00:45.849,0:00:48.367 Terminal breast cancer. 0:00:49.218,0:00:51.704 I was 27 years old, 0:00:51.704,0:00:54.288 had just been accepted to medical school, 0:00:54.288,0:00:58.653 and I wondered if I was already[br]at the end of my life. 0:00:58.653,0:01:03.221 My new oncologist was not a warm person. 0:01:03.872,0:01:06.998 She dealt in simple facts, 0:01:06.998,0:01:09.834 as many brilliant physicians do. 0:01:10.018,0:01:13.187 "Our body is made up[br]of cells," she started. 0:01:13.187,0:01:15.996 I stopped her. 0:01:15.996,0:01:18.598 "I'm starting medical school soon. 0:01:18.598,0:01:20.467 I know." 0:01:20.467,0:01:25.021 Instead of taking this as a signal[br]to go backward, to start again, 0:01:25.021,0:01:27.463 she went forward. 0:01:27.463,0:01:30.081 She said that I would need[br]to start on chemotherapy 0:01:30.081,0:01:31.373 to control the cancer. 0:01:31.373,0:01:34.992 She launched into the details[br]of the drug and the side effects 0:01:34.992,0:01:36.444 and the schedule. 0:01:36.444,0:01:40.797 I reminded her that we hadn't even yet[br]biopsied the bright spot on my lung, 0:01:40.797,0:01:44.474 and I asked if she was sure[br]that it was cancer. 0:01:45.425,0:01:50.914 I remember viscerally how she seemed[br]almost frustrated with my question. 0:01:50.914,0:01:54.490 Perhaps she thought I wasn't[br]following along with her explanations, 0:01:54.490,0:01:56.826 or, worse still, I was in denial. 0:01:58.166,0:02:01.587 I simply wanted her to understand[br]that, as her patient, 0:02:01.587,0:02:06.897 the biopsy was not just a mere formality[br]to prove an already foregone conclusion. 0:02:06.897,0:02:11.168 It was a steel needle[br]through skin, muscle and bone 0:02:11.168,0:02:15.646 that would deliver a deep piece of me[br]to the surface and answer a question 0:02:15.646,0:02:18.365 I wish didn't have to be asked. 0:02:18.649,0:02:22.668 Before the biopsy, I could be[br]a 27-year old woman 0:02:22.668,0:02:25.813 who might have metastatic breast cancer, 0:02:25.813,0:02:29.198 who probably had metastatic breast cancer. 0:02:29.198,0:02:31.767 This is a critical distinction, 0:02:31.767,0:02:35.894 but it's not one that's emphasized[br]in the most elite oncology training. 0:02:36.248,0:02:41.103 Instead, I was dismissed[br]with an appointment to start treatment 0:02:41.103,0:02:42.821 in just a few weeks. 0:02:43.571,0:02:47.333 So much has happened[br]since that first visit. 0:02:47.333,0:02:50.786 Ironically, the biopsy was not[br]just a mere formality. 0:02:50.786,0:02:53.571 My former oncologist was right. 0:02:53.571,0:02:56.297 It did show cancer, 0:02:56.297,0:03:00.301 but it was a totally separate lung cancer, 0:03:00.301,0:03:02.502 and as crazy as it sounds, 0:03:02.502,0:03:04.778 this was great news. 0:03:04.994,0:03:08.181 I did not have metastatic breast cancer, 0:03:08.181,0:03:10.033 I had two different cancers, 0:03:10.033,0:03:12.134 but both of them were localized, 0:03:12.134,0:03:15.378 and so the lung cancer[br]was localized enough 0:03:15.378,0:03:16.930 that it could be removed. 0:03:16.930,0:03:20.584 And so the onslaught of treatments began[br]with a lung surgery, 0:03:20.584,0:03:23.068 continued with chemotherapy, 0:03:23.068,0:03:27.814 and ended with a breast surgery[br]just after my 28th birthday. 0:03:27.814,0:03:29.815 And then two weeks later, 0:03:29.815,0:03:32.867 I started medical school. 0:03:32.867,0:03:35.978 My new oncologist, 0:03:35.978,0:03:40.064 who deals much more fluidly[br]both with facts and their implications, 0:03:40.530,0:03:42.583 very reasonably suggested 0:03:42.583,0:03:45.876 that I should defer my acceptance[br]to medical school for a year, 0:03:45.876,0:03:49.011 take some time to rest, to recover, 0:03:49.011,0:03:52.748 and I trusted her advice. 0:03:52.748,0:03:56.743 I felt terrible during the intensive[br]chemotherapy sessions. 0:03:56.743,0:03:58.461 And so I wrote to the Dean. 0:03:58.461,0:04:00.346 I explained my circumstances, 0:04:00.346,0:04:02.648 and a deferral was speedily granted. 0:04:03.683,0:04:06.191 But as the chemo fog lifted, 0:04:06.191,0:04:09.478 I wondered what I was going[br]to do with a year. 0:04:09.478,0:04:12.847 Should I go to the beach? 0:04:13.282,0:04:15.998 I wasn't really a beach person. 0:04:15.998,0:04:17.099 (Laughter) 0:04:17.099,0:04:20.402 And how many years did I have left anyway? 0:04:21.153,0:04:23.512 I really wanted to go to medical school. 0:04:23.512,0:04:26.648 It seemed like a missing[br]piece of my puzzle. 0:04:26.848,0:04:30.703 So instead of going around[br]and around with indecision, 0:04:30.703,0:04:33.611 I asked myself, what's the worst[br]that could happen? 0:04:33.611,0:04:37.065 Well, I could be too weak[br]or too sick to do the work. 0:04:37.065,0:04:39.467 It could be too hard for me emotionally. 0:04:39.467,0:04:42.443 I could fail out of medical school. 0:04:42.443,0:04:46.346 But then I remembered, that wouldn't be[br]the worst thing that happened to me 0:04:46.346,0:04:47.481 even that year. 0:04:47.481,0:04:51.217 So why not get started? 0:04:51.217,0:04:53.125 Why not continue living[br]the way that I wanted to live? 0:04:53.125,0:04:56.563 So I did. 0:04:56.563,0:04:58.580 Bald and rail thin, 0:04:58.580,0:05:02.201 I put on my best earrings[br]and my favorite dress, 0:05:02.201,0:05:04.843 and I started. 0:05:04.843,0:05:06.094 I pretended to belong, 0:05:06.094,0:05:08.212 and I began to. 0:05:08.212,0:05:12.016 There is no way to describe[br]how hard it was. 0:05:12.016,0:05:13.875 Some days it felt impossible. 0:05:13.875,0:05:18.440 It felt as I was doing things[br]that would never matter in the future. 0:05:18.440,0:05:21.982 But every day, I asked myself,[br]are you still enjoying this? 0:05:21.982,0:05:24.825 Is this still what you want to be doing? 0:05:24.825,0:05:26.977 And every day, the answer was yes, 0:05:26.977,0:05:29.847 sometimes a very qualified yes, 0:05:29.847,0:05:31.564 but a yes. 0:05:31.564,0:05:33.839 And then, just as I[br]was getting comfortable 0:05:33.839,0:05:37.360 and feeling like I might not necessarily[br]fail out of medical school, 0:05:37.360,0:05:40.562 I received even more devastating news. 0:05:40.562,0:05:47.159 I learned that I had a mutation[br]in a gene called TP53, or p53 for short. 0:05:47.159,0:05:50.446 Known as the guardian of the genome, 0:05:50.446,0:05:56.492 a mutation, p53 is responsible[br]for supervising the repair of our DNA. 0:05:56.492,0:05:59.645 A mutation in this gene[br]means errors go uncorrected. 0:05:59.645,0:06:03.621 It means that normal cells[br]become cancerous at a much higher rate. 0:06:04.739,0:06:07.241 All of a sudden, with this knowledge, 0:06:07.241,0:06:10.187 my medical history[br]made a terrible kind of sense. 0:06:10.187,0:06:13.787 I had had a childhood cancer --[br]rhabdomyosarcoma -- at age seven. 0:06:13.787,0:06:16.756 It recurred when I was a teenager. 0:06:16.756,0:06:20.626 And this was all before p53[br]had been discovered in the lab. 0:06:20.626,0:06:24.636 Then I'd had young adult[br]breast and lung cancers. 0:06:24.636,0:06:26.989 With the knowledge of this mutation, 0:06:26.989,0:06:30.491 it seemed that there was likely[br]no end to the number of cancers 0:06:30.491,0:06:32.733 that I could expect in my future. 0:06:32.950,0:06:35.353 And yet, 0:06:35.353,0:06:39.274 I decided to become[br]a radiation oncologist. 0:06:39.274,0:06:40.308 (Laughter) 0:06:40.308,0:06:44.186 I hoped to graduate from residency[br]in just a few months, 0:06:44.186,0:06:46.622 move to a new city, 0:06:46.622,0:06:48.240 and start my first real job 0:06:48.240,0:06:51.883 as a doctor and researcher, 0:06:51.883,0:06:54.218 because of grit, 0:06:54.218,0:06:55.704 because of privilege, 0:06:55.704,0:06:57.572 because of therapy, 0:06:57.572,0:07:01.729 because of my medical teams[br]and my family and my teachers, 0:07:02.675,0:07:08.688 because genetic diagnoses 0:07:08.688,0:07:09.477 should give us the knowledge[br]to move forward. 0:07:09.477,0:07:12.408 And even in the year 2020, 0:07:12.408,0:07:15.567 that generally doesn't mean[br]miracle cures or medical breakthroughs. 0:07:15.567,0:07:20.067 Having a devastating genetic diagnosis 0:07:20.067,0:07:23.961 means learning to live with uncertainty. 0:07:23.961,0:07:27.938 It means learning that you,[br]and your diagnosis, 0:07:27.938,0:07:30.775 are not the worst thing that could happen. 0:07:30.775,0:07:32.982 Learning to live with uncertainty 0:07:32.982,0:07:35.603 means walking forward into a life 0:07:35.603,0:07:39.773 that is as full of beauty[br]as it is of challenges. 0:07:40.173,0:07:45.204 It means learning for yourself[br]that cancer is just part of your story. 0:07:45.204,0:07:47.739 It may not be the worst thing[br]that happens to you, 0:07:47.739,0:07:49.593 and if it is, that's OK. 0:07:49.593,0:07:52.134 You can claim that, and you can own that, 0:07:52.134,0:07:55.008 but let that be a narrative[br]that you author and you authorize, 0:07:55.008,0:07:59.112 not one that's prescribed to you[br]by someone else. 0:07:59.112,0:08:01.281 Have your deferral letter in hand,[br]but use it on your terms. 0:08:01.281,0:08:04.267 As I come to the end[br]of my oncology training, 0:08:04.267,0:08:07.893 I have deja vu again and again[br]with the following scenario. 0:08:07.893,0:08:12.199 A patient has cancer. 0:08:12.199,0:08:14.160 There are several options, 0:08:14.160,0:08:20.533 all of which offer a different balance[br]between cure and quality of life, 0:08:20.533,0:08:24.427 between the possibility[br]of alleviating suffering 0:08:24.427,0:08:29.515 and the possibility of causing suffering. 0:08:29.515,0:08:31.073 An oncologist lays out the options, 0:08:31.073,0:08:33.057 but, somewhere in the discussion,[br]things get skewed. 0:08:33.057,0:08:35.327 The choice becomes something more like, 0:08:35.327,0:08:38.312 well, you could choose to do something 0:08:38.312,0:08:41.522 or you could choose to do nothing. 0:08:41.522,0:08:43.958 We could be aggressive 0:08:43.958,0:08:45.993 and treat your cancer, 0:08:45.993,0:08:48.028 or we could watch it, 0:08:48.028,0:08:51.705 and 9.9 times out of 10, the patient says, 0:08:51.705,0:08:54.724 "I want to do everything I can do." 0:08:54.941,0:08:56.659 Of course. 0:08:56.659,0:08:59.930 Who wouldn't want everything? 0:09:00.280,0:09:02.925 But what is everything? 0:09:02.925,0:09:08.729 Is everything the ability to sit[br]in your own home in front of your window 0:09:08.729,0:09:11.823 bathed in sunshine[br]and surrounded by family? 0:09:12.041,0:09:16.811 Is everything still being able[br]to feel your fingers and your toes 0:09:16.811,0:09:20.021 because they haven't gone numb[br]from chemotherapy. 0:09:20.021,0:09:22.390 As oncologists, our everything[br]is cancer treatment. 0:09:22.390,0:09:30.038 It's radiation and surgery[br]and chemotherapy and novel treatments. 0:09:30.038,0:09:33.323 And for us, the worst thing[br]that could happen, 0:09:33.323,0:09:35.826 and I have heard more than one[br]oncologist say this, 0:09:35.826,0:09:38.244 the worst thing that could happen[br]is that the patient will develop 0:09:38.244,0:09:39.903 metastatic disease. 0:09:39.903,0:09:43.723 Or, the worst thing that could happen[br]is that five years from now, 0:09:43.723,0:09:47.293 the cancer will grow and I'll[br]have to give more radiation. 0:09:47.293,0:09:49.936 As a patient and as an oncologist, 0:09:49.936,0:09:54.072 I would never argue that these[br]are not devastating outcomes. 0:09:54.072,0:09:56.124 But are they the worst? 0:09:56.124,0:09:58.493 Should cancer control, 0:09:58.493,0:10:03.774 be at the center, of our thinking always? 0:10:03.774,0:10:11.036 Many unspeakably, unfathomably painful[br]and brutal things have happened to me 0:10:11.036,0:10:15.005 because of my cancers[br]and my genetic mutation. 0:10:15.005,0:10:19.332 And yet, I consider myself[br]very lucky indeed, 0:10:19.332,0:10:23.236 because the worst thing[br]that could happen never came to pass, 0:10:23.236,0:10:28.474 because I have let devastation[br]and uncertainty sit at the table, 0:10:28.474,0:10:30.899 but somewhere off to the side. 0:10:30.899,0:10:33.618 When I was diagnosed[br]with metastatic breast cancer, 0:10:33.618,0:10:37.722 I went to Boston for a second opinion,[br]because what could I lose? 0:10:37.722,0:10:40.715 When my oncologist gave me[br]very good and very safe 0:10:40.715,0:10:42.501 and very standard advice, 0:10:42.501,0:10:44.402 I started medical school anyway, 0:10:44.402,0:10:48.072 even though I was undergoing[br]active cancer treatment. 0:10:48.323,0:10:51.933 Instead of shying away[br]from patients with cancer, 0:10:51.933,0:10:54.067 I became a radiation oncologist, 0:10:54.067,0:10:57.304 and I work with patients[br]who are very much like me 0:10:57.304,0:10:58.556 every single day. 0:10:58.556,0:11:03.733 Instead of imagining the suffering[br]that I might cause to a future partner 0:11:03.733,0:11:05.818 when I died of cancer, 0:11:05.818,0:11:09.245 I married my wonderful husband. 0:11:09.446,0:11:13.449 Because, the worst thing that can happen 0:11:13.449,0:11:15.023 is always a series of negatives. 0:11:15.023,0:11:17.469 It's blank spaces 0:11:17.469,0:11:19.878 that should be filled with life. 0:11:20.613,0:11:27.336 So what is the most that I have leaned in[br]to this kind of radical uncertainty? 0:11:27.918,0:11:31.062 Well, this is William. 0:11:32.263,0:11:37.618 He is the most joyful person[br]that I have ever met, 0:11:38.802,0:11:44.464 and in just over a year, he has already[br]made the world a better place. 0:11:45.448,0:11:50.521 As oncologists, we talk to our patients 0:11:50.521,0:11:52.428 as if the worst thing that could happen 0:11:52.428,0:11:54.680 is that their cancer could come back, 0:11:54.680,0:11:57.867 or that it could spread,[br]or that they could die from it. 0:11:58.301,0:12:01.860 As a patient, I know[br]that these are paramount, 0:12:01.860,0:12:04.247 but I want to change the way[br]that we think about this, 0:12:04.247,0:12:08.382 and I want to change the way[br]that we talk about this with our patients. 0:12:08.549,0:12:09.924 As a patient, 0:12:09.924,0:12:14.679 the worst thing that can happen[br]is that cancer robs you of opportunity, 0:12:14.679,0:12:17.232 of the ability to be and to do 0:12:17.232,0:12:19.350 and to love. 0:12:20.291,0:12:21.725 And it will. 0:12:21.725,0:12:25.112 At least, temporarily, it will. 0:12:25.112,0:12:28.365 But to minimize this loss[br]of life in the living, 0:12:28.365,0:12:31.507 that is the harder 0:12:31.507,0:12:34.710 and I would say truer job[br]of the oncologist: 0:12:34.710,0:12:39.097 to take all the tools that we have[br]and situate them in the context 0:12:39.097,0:12:41.775 of a patient's whole entire life; 0:12:41.775,0:12:45.877 to be guides for how[br]to sit with suffering, 0:12:45.877,0:12:47.996 acknowledge it deeply, 0:12:47.996,0:12:54.275 but to not let fear of future suffering[br]be the narrative for the journey forward. 0:12:54.275,0:12:56.413 One of my mentors always says, 0:12:56.413,0:13:00.016 the medicine part is easy, 0:13:00.016,0:13:03.270 and it never feels that way[br]to a junior doctor, 0:13:03.270,0:13:06.862 but it's contours are finite. 0:13:06.862,0:13:13.735 We have big studies to guide us,[br]and it's what we learn to do in residency. 0:13:13.735,0:13:21.032 Much harder is learning how to help[br]each patient navigate the multitudes 0:13:21.032,0:13:24.185 contained in their illness. 0:13:24.786,0:13:28.696 So I find it really funny 0:13:28.696,0:13:33.033 that, in retrospect, my life[br]looks like a neat package. 0:13:33.033,0:13:37.427 It looks as if I planned[br]each successive step, 0:13:37.427,0:13:42.166 and that perhaps cancer[br]has led to the good things in my life. 0:13:42.465,0:13:45.910 Step one: apply to medical school. 0:13:45.910,0:13:49.496 Step two: get diagnosed with[br]and treated for cancer. 0:13:49.496,0:13:52.122 And step three: have it all, 0:13:52.122,0:13:56.584 a career and a family. 0:13:56.584,0:13:58.394 But I will tell you 0:13:58.394,0:14:02.888 that each phase was a leap of faith 0:14:02.888,0:14:08.476 despite an almost paralyzing uncertainty. 0:14:08.476,0:14:10.061 And so it's that courage 0:14:10.061,0:14:13.438 that I try to give to each of my patients. 0:14:13.621,0:14:17.858 I try to do this regardless[br]of the technical medical details 0:14:17.858,0:14:21.028 of cancers and treatment decisions 0:14:21.028,0:14:22.069 and mutations, 0:14:22.069,0:14:25.555 regardless of the slippery fiction 0:14:25.555,0:14:26.756 of prognosis. 0:14:26.756,0:14:29.659 I try to learn what they want 0:14:29.659,0:14:31.619 and what they need, 0:14:31.619,0:14:35.037 what they wish and what they worry, 0:14:36.438,0:14:39.859 what they dream about, 0:14:39.859,0:14:42.735 what animated them before 0:14:43.489,0:14:49.761 and what will sustain them during[br]the beastly process of cancer treatment. 0:14:51.329,0:14:54.571 It doesn't actually take that much time. 0:14:55.540,0:15:00.677 It does take a few focused, quiet moments 0:15:00.677,0:15:03.803 that require intentional cultivation. 0:15:04.956,0:15:08.408 But this is partnership, 0:15:08.408,0:15:10.911 and it matters, 0:15:11.745,0:15:14.538 because the worst thing that can happen 0:15:14.538,0:15:19.359 is to have an oncologist[br]who does everything, 0:15:19.359,0:15:24.103 everything to help cure your cancer 0:15:24.103,0:15:29.024 and who does nothing[br]to help you live your life. 0:15:29.675,0:15:31.927 Thank you. 0:15:31.927,0:15:35.937 (Applause)