WEBVTT 00:00:00.522 --> 00:00:01.951 there is a bug 00:00:01.951 --> 00:00:05.650 I can not realy on clicking on the terminal to open a link in a browser 00:00:05.650 --> 00:00:08.871 because there is currently a bug in konsole with a k 00:00:08.871 --> 00:00:12.441 that opens link in random browsers 00:00:14.761 --> 00:00:19.002 and i learned that i have a browser installed that i didnt know existed NOTE Paragraph 00:00:19.012 --> 00:00:22.560 its called eric6 00:00:22.621 --> 00:00:30.261 and if you have the eric python graphical development environment installed 00:00:31.041 --> 00:00:38.240 it contains a browser and it maps it to mine 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:43.001 and if you have a terminal that for some reason open browsers at random 00:00:43.001 --> 00:00:47.101 you get links to open in that 00:00:47.101 --> 00:00:49.492 so ill copy and paste the urls 00:00:49.492 --> 00:00:51.221 it will be slighly slower 00:00:51.221 --> 00:00:53.900 i think i have 5 minutes still to go 00:00:58.040 --> 00:01:01.731 time passes quickly when you have fun 00:01:04.601 --> 00:01:07.602 audience: install terminator! 00:01:07.602 --> 00:01:09.010 enrico: no 00:01:09.010 --> 00:01:14.041 if look at my blog, there is a list of my requirements for terminal emulators 00:01:14.041 --> 00:01:17.081 and the reason they all suck 00:01:17.081 --> 00:01:20.062 all the bits that do not work 00:01:20.062 --> 00:01:24.421 now terminator is in that list, it has things that dont work for me 00:01:24.421 --> 00:01:27.861 but we have the upstream for lxterminal at the conference 00:01:27.861 --> 00:01:31.102 that has seen the list and went like 00:01:31.102 --> 00:01:33.781 that i implemented 2 days ago 00:01:33.781 --> 00:01:35.541 that is in my todo list now 00:01:35.541 --> 00:01:39.321 that, let me have a look at the code, yes i can do it 00:01:39.321 --> 00:01:41.211 im working on it 00:01:41.211 --> 00:01:44.301 and so thank you 00:01:59.272 --> 00:02:01.880 3 minutes i believe 00:02:01.880 --> 00:02:02.701 2 00:02:06.892 --> 00:02:09.602 well, in the meantime, i will read something 00:02:09.602 --> 00:02:13.921 that i guess everyone should had read before entering 00:02:13.921 --> 00:02:17.841 which is, i will ramble freely about debian 00:02:17.871 --> 00:02:20.181 and everything else i care about 00:02:20.181 --> 00:02:23.721 and you are going to have the misfortune 00:02:24.041 --> 00:02:27.842 of figuring out what it is that i also care about 00:02:29.632 --> 00:02:32.522 i will cover topics including 00:02:33.002 --> 00:02:35.791 but specially, not limited to, 00:02:36.022 --> 00:02:39.041 anarchism, relationships, sex, violence 00:02:39.041 --> 00:02:42.350 society, stereotypes and expectations 00:02:42.350 --> 00:02:46.920 and i will always be talking about debian 00:02:47.441 --> 00:02:49.212 really 00:02:49.212 --> 00:02:51.780 i expect that this talks will be both 00:02:51.780 --> 00:02:54.791 unsuitable and insightful for pretty much 00:02:55.211 --> 00:02:58.621 any kind of audience that i can think of 00:02:58.691 --> 00:03:03.341 and first 3 minutes of it are about making sure 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:06.800 you understand what will be the remaining 27 00:03:07.040 --> 00:03:11.480 and have a chance to leave 00:03:20.601 --> 00:03:23.421 after 3 minutes if you leave 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you are kinda seen by everyone or something 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but some shy people might 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i dont know 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 no, at any point in the talk 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if anybody want to safe word out 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and ill explain what the safe word is 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but if anybody want out and 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 lalala i dont want to hear anymore 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 raise your hand, i will stop 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 black the screen 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 ?? my ?? file will show up in my clumsy attempt 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to black the screen, and waiting for you to leave 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the room before resuming, so 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 ?? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 quotations that are famous anarchists have said 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 hundreds of years ago about debian 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 like this could be about mailing list discussions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for example 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i guess i can begin 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 chapter one: disclaimers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 sorry, I was supposed to be introduced 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was born... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is it on? okay 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it gives me great pleasure to introduce a man that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that pushed me into the maintainers process about 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 seven years ago 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Enrico Zini 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so, chapter one: disclaimers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i will let people know my better introducer 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Aida: anyhow if you are still a little dark 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the end, just ask a young person or google 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i mean, dont take your computer for a ?? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i mean ?? afterwards 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Enrico: that songs talks about dogging 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is an interesting topic to kind of give 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 an idea about the rest of the thing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its good to give you an idea about the level 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of the rest of the discussion 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so you know what is going to happen 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 dogging redirect to public sex 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its one of the famous 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 anyone safewording outs? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you okay? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its a british thing apparently 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a british are famous for steam engines 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and dogging and a bunch of other things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 hot and cold water, ?? but dogging in this case 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and dogging like debian has 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a code of conduct 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its good that we found a liquor tap 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which people who are doing things seriously 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there is more if you goggle 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but yeah, its always sex in public spaces 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its usually done with cars 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in cars, im not sure someone might 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but i personally wouldnt recommend it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its not my thing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 theres a code that if you would like to be seen 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 while you do it, you leave the light on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 inside the car 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you want to be followed into another's place 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you flash your lights 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i think there was a thing about raising the windows 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but im not sure about that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 theres a wonderful documental from BBC 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 where you can find 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 ask the british 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so this set 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Aida: theres a sense of dispossition 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 leave now 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 right, we can begin 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 about the debian social contract 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and Emma Goldman said once that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Every daring attempt to make a great change 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in existing conditions, every lofty vision of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 new possibilities for the human race 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 has been labeled Utopian 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we do 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 im going to talk about many topics 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we all know have so much in common 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Anarchism, poliamory, BSDM and free software 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and after all, they are about people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 consensually, doing things together, right? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 people consensually doing things together 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so its different communities, with some overlaps 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they are different communities of people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 consensually doing things together and 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there a lot to talk, theres a lot to learn 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 from each other, because for a reason 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or another all this communities are focus on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 different aspects of aspects of consensually 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 doing things together 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 anarchism might focus more on the political side 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 BDSM might focus more on the consensual side 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and on the things that you do, free software 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and poliamory have a lot of focus on the political 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the doing things, the consensual and ?? everything else 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 chapter 2: BDSM 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Lysander Spooner talking about proprietary cloud 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 service providers said that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A person is no less a slave because they are allowed 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to choose a new master once in a term of years 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so, BDSM 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we freesoftware people think that we are clever 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because we have recursive acronyms 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 BDSM stands for 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Bondage disco is an interesting concept 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we could expanded later im sure it can go somewhere 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Bondage, Discipline, Dominance, Submission 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who was in the debian contributors this afternoon 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 has worked on code that submits debian developers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 sorry, submit debian contributors to the site 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but its not the same thing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so its a chained acronym 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 BD, DS, SM (Bondage Discipline, Dominance Submission, Sado Masochism) 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so thats the first thing we have in common 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 clever acronyms 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so its about some of those things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i think BDSM is really interesting not just because 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of whips but also for having develop over the years 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a lot of awareness about power relationships 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its in the acronym, dominance-submission-discipline 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with that in mind i have a BDSM freesoftware definition 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i refuse to be bound by software 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i cannot negotiate with 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and how i negotiate with software 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 well, if i have the source code i can come to terms 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with it and nogiating my interaction and if i dont 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the source code or i dont have the ability to change it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then im stuck, right? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so i think thats a pretty good definition of freesoftware 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 im very proud of that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so thats another way to coceptualize freesoftware that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i think that can be understood really well by people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who may struggle with the four freedoms or the 10 points 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of the ?? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so thats one thing that could be carried across 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 theres another acronym that i would like to submit 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to your consideration which is this 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Your Kink Is Not My Kink But Your Kink Is Okay (YKINMKBYKIOK) 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which i said but i should expand it for those that dont 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 find it obvious 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 kink is something people do 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and something that some other people might not want to do 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the BSDM community is costumary to say 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 your kink is not my kink but your kink is okay 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the idea is to be non judgamental but at the same time 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to pull oneself out from somebody that one doesnt want to do 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in my opinion, this is the final solution 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for the VI vs EMACS problem 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 im really eager to carry this into the freesoftware 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 community, it would solve a lot of things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 other interesting things about BDSM is awareness about 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 confort zones i know when im doing something im confortable with 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i know my limits i know the limits i have i do not want to push 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i learned to communicate all this 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 otherwise dissaster happens 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there are safewords to prevent dissater to happen 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 safeword means a word that means stop everything right now 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 no matter what 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there is even level of safe words 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 common standard traffic lights green, yellow, red 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 green means yeah, bring it on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 yellow means this is getting intense, but do go on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 red means stop right now or i will call the police 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 once i manage to manage to wiggle free of this 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 incidentally safe words are something we dont have in debian 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and i would be interested to have 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there are things that i see in mailing lists that i would like 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to safeword out 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there is the clause the mail browser option yes 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it works pretty well, but then some people might take decisions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and then... well, its a concept i think should be explored 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 theres this nice gift that tell me that i can zoom, yes 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "No means no", unless there has been a long discussion first, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and a safeword is in place, in which case "Fuzzy purple unicorn" means "no" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 thats the idea of safewords and "no means no" is an important 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 concept in most of the BSDM community 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 theres the some fringes in there but i think is unimportant 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 theres an interesting thing coming from the BDSM comunity 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is the awereness that really, when no means no 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is easier to say yes 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if im around a person that says, would you like to have tea 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and i say mmm nooo? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and i go like: but do have tea, tea is good 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and im like no 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and it goes: but its really good tea 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then i start feeling really unconfortable and chances are 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i dont want to drink anymore tea in my whole life 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is a shame, because i might like tea 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 incidentally, you can have consent explain with tea 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 video: if you are still struggling with consent 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 just imagine instead of iniciating sex, you are making them a cup of tea 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you said: hey, would you like a cup of tea? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they go: omg, fuck yes, i would fucking love a cup of tea 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 thank you 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then you know they want a cup of tea 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you say: hey would you like a cup of tea? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they are like: hmmm, you know, im not really sure 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but you could make him a cup of tea or not 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you could make him a cup of tea... or not 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but be aware they might not drink it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and if they dont drink it, then if they dont drink it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then, and this is the important part, dont make them drink it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 just because you made it, doenst mean you are entitled to watch them 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 drink it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and if they say: no thank you 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then, dont make them tea. That is all 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 enrico: i highly recommend this video 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 consent is important, ill come back to it later 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 theres another thing that i really like about BDSM 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its a concept wich is aftercare 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the idea is that after you are having a person, bound... whatever 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you both have push your comfort zones a little further than usual 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when the whole thing ends, there's a moment of recovering 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 getting back inside the comfort zones of love, of celebration 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is called aftercare, which is something 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we dont do much in debian 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we do debian release parties. Aftercare for release 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we are out of the bindings of the free spirit 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and then we get back into the comfort zone 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of freedom and gcc transition and breaking unstable 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but there could be moments of celebration 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 after each vote on something 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there could be solidarity towards the people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that werent represented on the results of the election 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or high fives after springs and lots of efforts 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 thats another thing that, in part we do, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but could do more, because more hacks is nice 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 except if one does not like hacks 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at first, approach people at front if you want to hug 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and signal that you want a hug, before entering their personal space 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 do not hug people from the back, that short of things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 chapter previous + 1: poliamory 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Emma Goldman said: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If love does not know how to give and take without restrictions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it is not love, but a transaction that never fails to lay stress 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 on a plus and a minus 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 poliamory is according to wikipedia 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the practice, desire or acceptance of intimate relationships 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that are not exclusive with respect to 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 other sexual intimate relationships, and, this is important, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with knowledge and consent from everyone involved 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so, a fling on the side dont ask, dont tell 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its generally not considered poliamory 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 unless, theres knowledge and consent about the dont ask dont tell part of it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that is the concept 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the poliamory community has some interesting things for us to learn 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 one was pointed out in Vaumarcus a couple of years ago 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 nod if you want to be credited 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that wasnt a nod, i can take it as a ?? consense 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Rhonda pointed out something along the line of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if somebody takes good care of one of your packages 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you should be happy, rather than angry 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the poliamorous community uses the word compersion a lot 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is exactly the feeling you get when somebody else also takes good care 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of one of your packages 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 talking about that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we currently allow only one value in the maintainer field in debian control 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which means that packages takes over are traumatic experiences 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because the previous maintainer is dump in favor of a new one 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and values can only be replaced 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if values could be added instead and removed when they dont make sense anymore 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then the whole concept of somebody not maintaining a packages ?? and so on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 could be solved by other people joining in and relationships evolving, right? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so thats a proposal for policy 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 another interesting thing that comes out of the poliamorous greater cloud of people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is that different people have different definitions of love 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 different needs, different definitions of love even 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so it happened to me to have a conversation with a person and say 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so, how do you define love? whats love for you? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 oh, great you asked me that is fantastic because 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its not an standard thing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you ask a random person what is love often the result is... its love, right? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so, the definition ive adopted recently and im still very happy about is this 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [I love you:] [my world is better with you in it] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with and idea like that, you can see how it is possible 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to love several people at once 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it does not mean that one has specific expectations 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 towards the people one loves 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 otherwise, life becomes difficult and theres only 24h in a day 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there are people that makes my world better but they dont smell in a way that i like 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and stuff like that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [laughs] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the distinction between romantic love and sexual love could be made 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you can see how the whole concept of relationship gets deconstructed 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and one can have sexual, romantic sexual and romantic 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 no sexual, no romantic but plans for life 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 ?? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 life gets really interesting 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and fortunately theres only 24h in a day and i like ?? every night 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but we were talking about anarchism as well 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so i have done my ?? as well 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the readical idea than relationships can be something that is negotiated 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 between the people involved 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 thats so radical 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 why isnt like that all the time? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to me is a big problem if a relationship is something that is bound by rules 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that are not mutually agreed on by the people involved, right? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but, some call it, relationship anarchy 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so, going on, im 4 minutes behind 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Voltairine de Cleyre about new debian contributors 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and trusting lintian warmings said: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 anarchism, to me, means not only the denial of authority, not only a new economy, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but a revision of the principles of morality 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It means the development of the individual as well as the assertion of the individual 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It means self-responsible, and not leader whorship 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so self-reponsability before blinding trusting lintian warmings 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 back to consent, i thought a lot about consent because, having a person mildly say yes 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 does not feel like right 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when things get complicated you need to know what you are doing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what situation you are putting yourself into 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which isnt often easy. Especially, if you dont know the person 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you have in front of you. And if you dont know the person you have in front of you 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you might not know what situation you are putting yourself into 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you deny consent until you feel some trust 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you need to know that the person asking a question really is able to acept 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 any answer and take it seriously 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that is not necessarily true if you have an application manager 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that asks a question to an applicant some applicants go... [i dont know] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what do you think of the social contract and the applicant goes like... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its perfect! i have no problem with it but... can you trust that? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you need to feel that you have alternatives, because if an applicant thinks 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if they say, i really do not understand why in the DFSG we have an article about ?? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they might feel like if they say that they will not become debian developers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because something 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so if one doesnt feel theres an alternative 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if things go wrong, there is ways out and so on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then consent is hard 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 sometime ago, i came up with the idea of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 be selfish when you ask, honest when you reply, and when others reply 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 take them seriously, and if any of this does not stand, i find it hard to trust 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we are in a consensual situation 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and unfortunately i see little education for consent 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in standard education, there is not much consent 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 dear child, this is what you would like to do today 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 this is what is important for you today 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 otherwise, bad things happen 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or in the workplace, there is often little consensuality 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the whole thing begins with, i need to buy part of your consent with money 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 some people are lucky to get paid for what they really want to do 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 some people not 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we will be followed by the cheese and wine BOF, so there will be alcohol 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 alcohol is not an excuse for breaking consent 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and incidentally i heard reports of borderline situations happening 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at debconf, if something makes you uncomfortable, you can talk to people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at frontdesk 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if people in frontdesk makes you uncomfortable, you can talk to me 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if both me and frontdesk makes you uncomfortable, call the police 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 audience: [inaudible] good point 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 thats a very good point 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 can i have 5 more minutes? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 practical advice 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 suppose you want relationship advice or work advice 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they are pretty much the same, like this is a nice article about 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 how to deal with abusive relationship or bad work places 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 keep them tired, keep them too busy to think 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 keep them emotionally involved reward intermittently 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 keep the crises rolling, things will be better when... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we figured some time ago that if you go on a situation thinking, it will be better 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it never will 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 keep real rewards distant, and so on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 more practical advice i can give links later 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 this is an excellent article 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [what technical recruiters can learn from online dating] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i highly recommend it, because then you can really see the recruiter email 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 very similar to some shady person somewhere coming from behind 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and saying: do you come here often? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 more relationship advice from 99 ways to ruin an open source project 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 how to ruin the trust of the community 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 exert excessive control 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 never give anyone else commit access 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i dont know what that was, require an unparseable unicode character 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 ignore concerns voiced in issues 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 do any of this in a relationship and it wont last long, right? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and so on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i highly also recommend this thing making relationships suck 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its a wonderful read, i can provide links somehow later 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i dont know where to publish them but we can work it out 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 theres also this 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 BSDM advice, tips for new dominants 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so, tips for new packages maintainers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you will fuck up 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and so on 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 i guess is time to close, i hope i gave an idea on how to carry across 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 advise thought quite a lot over the years between one domain to another 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when theres an interesting point that will overlap 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and id like to close recalling my definition of love 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 dear debian and dear everyone contributing to debian 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 my world is better with you in it <3 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 thank you, thank you, thank you 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 talkmaister: any questions?