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there is a bug

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because there is currently a bug in konsole with a k

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that opens link in random browsers

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and i learned that i have a browser installed that i didnt know existed

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its called eric6

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and if you have the eric python
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it contains a browser and it maps it to mine

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and if you have a terminal that for some reason open browsers at random

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you get links to open in that

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so ill copy and paste the urls

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it will be slighly slower

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i think i have 5 minutes still to go

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time passes quickly when you have fun

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audience: install terminator!

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enrico: no

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if look at my blog, there is a list of my
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and the reason they all suck

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all the bits that do not work

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now terminator is in that list,
it has things that dont work for me

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but we have the upstream for
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that has seen the list and went like

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that i implemented 2 days ago

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that is in my todo list now

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that, let me have a look at the code,
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im working on it

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and so thank you

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3 minutes i believe

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well, in the meantime, i will read something

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that i guess everyone 
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which is, i will ramble freely
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and everything else i care about

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and you are going to have the misfortune

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of figuring out what it is that 
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i will cover topics including

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anarchism, relationships, sex, violence

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society, stereotypes and expectations

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and i will always be talking about debian

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i expect that this talks will be both

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unsuitable and insightful for pretty much

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any kind of audience that i can think of

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and first 3 minutes of it are
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you understand what will be
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and have a chance to leave

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after 3 minutes if you leave

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you are kinda seen by everyone or something

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but some shy people might

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i dont know

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no, at any point in the talk

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if anybody want to safe word out

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and ill explain what the safe word is

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but if anybody want out and

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lalala i dont want to hear anymore

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raise your hand, i will stop

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black the screen

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?? my ?? file will show up in my clumsy attempt

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to black the screen, and waiting for you to leave

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the room before resuming, so

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quotations that are famous anarchists have said

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hundreds of years ago about debian

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like this could be about mailing list discussions

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i guess i can begin

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chapter one: disclaimers

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sorry, I was supposed to be introduced

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I was born...

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is it on? okay

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it gives me great pleasure to introduce a man that

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that pushed me into the maintainers process about

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seven years ago

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so, chapter one: disclaimers

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i will let people know my better introducer

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in the end, just ask a young person or google

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i mean, dont take your computer for a ??

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Enrico: that songs talks about dogging

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which is an interesting topic to kind of give

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an idea about the rest of the thing

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so you know what is going to happen

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dogging redirect to public sex

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you okay?

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its a british thing apparently

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a british are famous for steam engines

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and dogging and a bunch of other things

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hot and cold water, ?? but dogging in this case

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but yeah, its always sex in public spaces

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theres a code that if you would like to be seen

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about the debian social contract

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and Emma Goldman said once that

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new possibilities for the human race

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that we all know have so much in common

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people consensually doing things together

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so its different communities, with some overlaps

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they are different communities of people

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and on the things that you do, free software

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the doing things, the consensual and ?? everything else

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who was in the debian contributors this afternoon

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i refuse to be bound by software

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im very proud of that

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so thats one thing that could be carried across

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to your consideration which is this

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Your Kink Is Not My Kink But Your Kink Is Okay (YKINMKBYKIOK)

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which i said but i should expand it for those that dont

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to pull oneself out from somebody that one doesnt want to do

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in my opinion, this is the final solution

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community, it would solve a lot of things

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other interesting things about BDSM is awareness about

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confort zones i know when im doing something im confortable with

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i know my limits i know the limits i have i do not want to push

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i learned to communicate all this

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otherwise dissaster happens

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there are safewords to prevent dissater to happen

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safeword means a word that means stop everything right now

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no matter what

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there is even level of safe words

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common standard traffic lights green, yellow, red

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green means yeah, bring it on

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red means stop right now or i will call the police

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to safeword out

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there is the clause the mail browser option yes

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it works pretty well, but then some people might take decisions

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and then... well, its a concept i think should be explored

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theres this nice gift that tell me that i can zoom, yes

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and a safeword is in place, in which case "Fuzzy purple unicorn" means "no"

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thats the idea of safewords and "no means no" is an important

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is the awereness that really, when no means no

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is easier to say yes

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if im around a person that says, would you like to have tea

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and i say mmm nooo?

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and i go like: but do have tea, tea is good

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and im like no

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and it goes: but its really good tea

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then i start feeling really unconfortable and chances are

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i dont want to drink anymore tea in my whole life

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which is a shame, because i might like tea

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incidentally, you can have consent explain with tea

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video: if you are still struggling with consent

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just imagine instead of iniciating sex, you are making them a cup of tea

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you said: hey, would you like a cup of tea?

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they go: omg, fuck yes, i would fucking love a cup of tea

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thank you

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then you know they want a cup of tea

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if you say: hey would you like a cup of tea?

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they are like: hmmm, you know, im not really sure

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but you could make him a cup of tea or not

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you could make him a cup of tea... or not

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but be aware they might not drink it

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and if they dont drink it, then if they dont drink it

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then, and this is the important part, dont make them drink it

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just because you made it, doenst mean you are entitled to watch them

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drink it

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and if they say: no thank you

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then, dont make them tea. That is all

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enrico: i highly recommend this video

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consent is important, ill come back to it later

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theres another thing that i really like about BDSM

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its a concept wich is aftercare

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the idea is that after you are having a person, bound... whatever

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when the whole thing ends, there's a
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getting back inside the comfort zones of love,
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which is called aftercare, which is
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that we dont do much in debian

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we do debian release parties. Aftercare for release

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we are out of the bindings of the free spirit

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and then we get back into the comfort zone

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of freedom and gcc transition and breaking
unstable

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but there could be moments of celebration

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after each vote on something

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there could be solidarity towards the people

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that werent represented on the results
of the election

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or high fives after springs and
lots of efforts

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thats another thing that, in part we do,

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but could do more, because more hacks
is nice

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except if one does not like hacks

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at first, approach people at front
if you want to hug

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and signal that you want a hug, 
before entering their personal space

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do not hug people from the back,
that short of things

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chapter previous + 1: poliamory

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Emma Goldman said:

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If love does not know how to give and
take without restrictions,

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it is not love, but a transaction
that never fails to lay stress

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on a plus and a minus

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poliamory is according to wikipedia

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the practice, desire or acceptance
of intimate relationships

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that are not exclusive with respect to

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other sexual intimate relationships,
and, this is important,

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with knowledge and consent from
everyone involved

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so, a fling on the side dont ask, dont tell

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its generally not considered poliamory

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unless, theres knowledge and consent about
the dont ask dont tell part of it

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that is the concept

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the poliamory community has some
interesting things for us to learn

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one was pointed out in Vaumarcus
a couple of years ago

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nod if you want to be credited

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that wasnt a nod, i can take it as a ??
consense

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Rhonda pointed out something along
the line of

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if somebody takes good care of one
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you should be happy, rather than angry

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the poliamorous community uses the word
compersion a lot

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which is exactly the feeling you get when
somebody else also takes good care

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of one of your packages

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talking about that

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we currently allow only one value
in the maintainer field in debian control

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which means that packages takes over
are traumatic experiences

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because the previous maintainer is dump
in favor of a new one

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and values can only be replaced

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if values could be added instead and
removed when they dont make sense anymore

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then the whole concept of somebody not
maintaining a packages ?? and so on

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could be solved by other people joining in
and relationships evolving, right?


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so thats a proposal for policy

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another interesting thing that comes out of
the poliamorous greater cloud of people

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is that different people have different
definitions of love

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different needs, different definitions of love
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so it happened to me to have a conversation
with a person and say

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so, how do you define love?
whats love for you?

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oh, great you asked me
that is fantastic because

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its not an standard thing

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if you ask a random person what is love
often the result is... its love, right?

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so, the definition ive adopted recently
and im still very happy about is this

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[I love you:]
[my world is better with you in it]

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with and idea like that, you can see
how it is possible

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to love several people at once

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it does not mean that one has
specific expectations

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towards the people one loves

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otherwise, life becomes difficult and
theres only 24h in a day

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there are people that makes my world better
but they dont smell in a way that i like

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and stuff like that

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[laughs]

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and the distinction between romantic love
and sexual love could be made

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you can see how the whole concept of relationship
gets deconstructed

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and one can have sexual, romantic
sexual and romantic

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no sexual, no romantic but plans for life

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??

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life gets really interesting

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and fortunately theres only 24h in a day
and i like ?? every night

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but we were talking about anarchism as well

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so i have done my ?? as well

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the readical idea than relationships can
be something that is negotiated

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between the people involved

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thats so radical

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why isnt like that all the time?

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to me is a big problem if a relationship
is something that is bound by rules

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that are not mutually agreed on
by the people involved, right?

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but, some call it, relationship anarchy

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so, going on, im 4 minutes behind

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Voltairine de Cleyre about
new debian contributors

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and trusting lintian warmings said:

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anarchism, to me, means not only the denial
of authority, not only a new economy,

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but a revision of the principles of morality

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It means the development of the individual
as well as the assertion of the individual

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It means self-responsible, and not leader
whorship

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so self-reponsability before blinding
trusting lintian warmings

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back to consent, i thought a lot about consent
because, having a person mildly say yes

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does not feel like right

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when things get complicated
you need to know what you are doing

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what situation you are putting yourself into

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which isnt often easy. Especially, if you
dont know the person

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you have in front of you. And if you dont
know the person you have in front of you

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you might not know what situation
you are putting yourself into

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and you deny consent until
you feel some trust

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you need to know that the person asking
a question really is able to acept

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any answer and take it seriously

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that is not necessarily true if you have
an application manager

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that asks a question to an applicant
some applicants go... [i dont know]

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what do you think of the social contract
and the applicant goes like...

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its perfect! i have no problem with it
but... can you trust that?

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and you need to feel that you have
alternatives, because if an applicant thinks

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if they say, i really do not understand why
in the DFSG we have an article about ??

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they might feel like if they say that
they will not become debian developers

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because something

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so if one doesnt feel theres
an alternative

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if things go wrong, there is ways out
and so on

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then consent is hard

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sometime ago, i came up with the idea of

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be selfish when you ask, honest when
you reply, and when others reply

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take them seriously, and if any of this
does not stand, i find it hard to trust

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that we are in a consensual situation

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and unfortunately i see little education
for consent

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in standard education, there is not much
consent

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dear child, this is
what you would like to do today

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this is what is important for you today

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otherwise, bad things happen

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or in the workplace, there is often
little consensuality

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the whole thing begins with, i need
to buy part of your consent with money

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some people are lucky to get paid
for what they really want to do

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some people not

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we will be followed by the cheese and wine
BOF, so there will be alcohol

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alcohol is not an excuse for breaking
consent

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and incidentally i heard reports of
borderline situations happening

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at debconf, if something makes you
uncomfortable, you can talk to people

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at frontdesk

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if people in frontdesk makes you
uncomfortable, you can talk to me

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if both me and frontdesk makes you
uncomfortable, call the police

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audience: [inaudible]
good point

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thats a very good point

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can i have 5 more minutes?

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practical advice

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suppose you want relationship advice
or work advice

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they are pretty much the same,
like this is a nice article about

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how to deal with abusive relationship
or bad work places

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keep them tired,
keep them too busy to think

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keep them emotionally involved
reward intermittently

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keep the crises rolling,
things will be better when...

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we figured some time ago that if you go on
a situation thinking, it will be better

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it never will

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keep real rewards distant, and so on

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more practical advice
i can give links later

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this is an excellent article

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[what technical recruiters
can learn from online dating]

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i highly recommend it, because then
you can really see the recruiter email

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very similar to some shady person
somewhere coming from behind

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and saying: do you come here often?

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more relationship advice from
99 ways to ruin an open source project

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how to ruin the trust of the community

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exert excessive control

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never give anyone else commit access

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i dont know what that was,
require an unparseable unicode character

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ignore concerns voiced in issues

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do any of this in a relationship and
it wont last long, right?

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and so on

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i highly also recommend this thing
making relationships suck

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its a wonderful read, i can provide links
somehow later

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i dont know where to publish them
but we can work it out

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theres also this

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BSDM advice, tips for new dominants

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so, tips for new packages maintainers

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you will fuck up

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and so on

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i guess is time to close, i hope
i gave an idea on how to carry across

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advise thought quite a lot over the years
between one domain to another

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when theres an interesting point
that will overlap

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and id like to close recalling
my definition of love

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dear debian and dear everyone contributing
to debian

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my world is better with you in it
<3

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thank you, thank you, thank you

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talkmaister: any questions?