there's been cases of allegations of

sexual sin against leaders across the

world unfortunately a lot of the

situations seem to get to me somehow and

they're complicated because what happens

in a situation like this you have an

event that happens usually happens when

nobody's there so who's whose evidence

you you have the emotional response is

the exactly opposite usually between the

men and the women and then if you are

talking about spiritual leaders you have

an imbalance of emotional psychological

positioning with it that becomes abusive

whether the person meant for it to be

abusive and then you have allegations

and then what can get proved and then

what cannot get proved and then it it is

so complicated I mean I've had to spend

hundreds of hours this year dealing with

these situations and none of them are

very nice and everybody's hurt

everybody's hurt on all the sides it's

kind of like I mean this in a spiritual

way it's disgusting I mean it's like we

all just want to vomit it up I mean in a

right way God's dealing with this and

you realize God is not embarrassed about

these kind of things we're embarrassed

but God is like hey you want to sin you

remember what happened to David that he

God said will you send in private I'm

going to display it in public so his son

Rebels against him and he commits

adultery for all of David's wives and

concubines on the roof in front of

everybody puts it on the front page of

the newspaper I mean it's horrible and

somehow in God's holiness he desires to

have these things displayed it's totally

humiliating for us human beings to be

involved in this but God is so

interested in displaying the wrongness

of sin that he wants to get all these

things out