0:00:08.696,0:00:25.969 0:00:25.969,0:00:28.556 0:00:28.556,0:00:33.849 0:00:33.849,0:00:37.975 0:00:39.646,0:00:41.015 0:00:50.278,0:00:56.794 A cofounder of the social, news and entertainment website reddit has been found dead. 0:00:57.404,0:01:02.276 He certainly was a prodigy, although he never kind of thought of himself like that. 0:01:02.276,0:01:04.920 He was totally unexcited 0:01:04.920,0:01:08.444 about starting businesses and making money. 0:01:09.904,0:01:13.269 There's a profound sense of loss tonight in Highland Park, 0:01:13.269,0:01:15.197 Aaron Swartz's hometown, 0:01:15.197,0:01:18.391 as loved ones say good-bye to one of the Internet's brightest lights. 0:01:18.391,0:01:21.841 Freedom, open access and computer activists are mourning his loss. 0:01:21.841,0:01:25.699 "An astonishing intellect", if you talk to people who knew him. 0:01:25.699,0:01:27.029 He was killed by the government 0:01:27.029,0:01:29.996 and MIT betrayed all of its basic principles. 0:01:29.996,0:01:32.976 They wanted to make an example out of him. 0:01:35.176,0:01:39.053 Governments have insatiable desire to control. 0:01:39.053,0:01:43.477 He was potentially facing 35 years in prison and a one million dollar fine.[br] 0:01:43.477,0:01:50.042 Raising questions of prosecutorial zeal, and I would say even misconduct. 0:01:50.389,0:01:55.437 Have you looked into that particular matter and reached any conclusions? 0:01:57.399,0:02:00.915 Growing up, you know, I slowly had this process of realizing 0:02:00.915,0:02:03.562 that all the things around me, that people had told me 0:02:03.562,0:02:06.713 were just the natural way things were, the way things always would be 0:02:06.713,0:02:09.420 They weren't natural at all, there were things that could be changed 0:02:09.420,0:02:11.824 and there were things that more importantly were wrong and should change. 0:02:11.824,0:02:14.364 And once I realized that, there was really kind of no going back. 0:02:15.324,0:02:21.093 The Internet's Own Boy. 0:02:24.274,0:02:27.881 Welcome to story reading time. 0:02:28.048,0:02:33.084 The name of the book is "Paddington at the fair". 0:02:33.573,0:02:37.043 Well, he was born in Highland Park and grew up here. 0:02:37.434,0:02:40.778 Aaron came from a family of three brothers, all extraordinarily bright. 0:02:40.778,0:02:43.792 Oh, the box is tipping over... 0:02:44.532,0:02:48.714 So we were all, you know, not the best behaved children. 0:02:48.714,0:02:51.752 You know, three boys running around all the time, causing trouble. 0:02:51.752,0:02:54.005 Hey, no, no no! 0:02:54.005,0:02:56.234 - Aaron![br]- What? 0:02:56.234,0:03:01.134 But I've come to the realization that Aaron learned how to learn at a very young age. 0:03:01.711,0:03:05.711 "One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,seven, eight, nine, ten" 0:03:06.462,0:03:09.552 - Knock, knock![br]- Who's there? 0:03:09.552,0:03:11.427 - Aaron.[br]- Aaron who? 0:03:11.427,0:03:12.773 - Aaron Funnyman. 0:03:12.773,0:03:15.449 He knew what he wanted, and he always wanted to do it. 0:03:15.468,0:03:17.269 He always accomplished what he wanted. 0:03:18.609,0:03:21.288 His curiosity was endless. 0:03:21.888,0:03:25.117 "Here's a little picture of what the planets are." 0:03:25.117,0:03:32.929 "And each planet has a symbol. Mercury symbol, Venus symbol, Earth symbol, Mars symbol, Jupiter symbol." 0:03:33.114,0:03:37.089 One day he said to Susan: what's this free family entertainment downtown Highland Park? 0:03:37.089,0:03:39.964 "Free family entertainment at the downtown [less] park" 0:03:39.964,0:03:41.571 He was three at the time. 0:03:42.432,0:03:44.642 She said: what are you talking about? 0:03:44.642,0:03:50.242 He said: Look, it says here on the refrigerator, "Free family entertainment downtown Highland Park". 0:03:50.272,0:03:54.513 She was floored and astonished that he could read. 0:03:55.010,0:03:59.010 It's called "My Family Seder". 0:03:59.755,0:04:04.881 That Seder night is different from all other nights. 0:04:05.130,0:04:08.772 I remember once, we were at the University of Chicago Library. 0:04:08.847,0:04:12.318 I pulled a book off the shelf that was from like 1900. 0:04:12.318,0:04:16.540 And showed to him, and said: you know, this is an extraordinary place. 0:04:16.540,0:04:22.719 We all were curious children, but Aaron really liked learning and really liked teaching. 0:04:22.999,0:04:27.509 And what we're going to learn is ABC backwards. 0:04:27.945,0:04:31.385 Z, Y, X, W, V, U, T... 0:04:32.063,0:04:35.620 I remember he came home from his first Algebra class. 0:04:35.620,0:04:38.828 He was like: Noah, let me teach you Algebra! 0:04:38.828,0:04:41.274 and I'm like: what is Algebra? 0:04:41.274,0:04:43.287 And he was always like that. 0:04:43.287,0:04:48.516 Now let's press click button, there! Now it's got that! 0:04:48.898,0:04:51.858 Now it's in pink! 0:04:51.858,0:04:56.318 When he was about two or three years old, and Bob introduced him to computers, 0:04:56.318,0:04:59.608 then he just took off, like crazy on them. 0:04:59.820,0:05:03.687 (baby talk) 0:05:03.687,0:05:08.717 We all had computers, but Aaron really took to them, really took to the Internet. 0:05:09.698,0:05:12.965 - Working at the computer?[br]- Naah.. 0:05:12.965,0:05:16.008 - How c... mommy, why is nothing working? 0:05:16.008,0:05:18.667 He started programming from a really young age. 0:05:18.667,0:05:25.533 I remember the first program that I wrote with him was in Basic, and it was a Star Wars trivia game. 0:05:25.533,0:05:30.356 He sat down with me in the basement, where the computer was, 0:05:30.356,0:05:33.337 for hours, programming this game. 0:05:34.817,0:05:38.661 The problem that I kept having with him is that there was nothing that I wanted done. 0:05:38.661,0:05:44.057 And to him, there was always something to do, always something that programming could solve. 0:05:47.018,0:05:50.548 The way Aaron always saw it, is that programming is magic. 0:05:50.901,0:05:54.222 You can accomplish these things that normal humans can't. 0:05:54.222,0:05:58.892 Aaron made an ATM, using, like, a MacIntosh and, like, a cardboard box. 0:05:59.055,0:06:02.368 One year for Halloween, I didn't know what I wanted to be, 0:06:02.368,0:06:06.848 and he thought it would be really really cool if I dressed up like his new favorite computer, 0:06:06.848,0:06:09.108 which at the time was the original iMac. 0:06:09.108,0:06:13.434 I mean, he hated dressing up for Halloween but he loved convincing other people 0:06:13.434,0:06:16.280 to dress up in these things that he wanted to see. 0:06:16.280,0:06:20.395 Host Aaron, stop! Guys, come on, look at the camera! 0:06:20.395,0:06:22.720 Spider-man looks at the camera 0:06:24.010,0:06:30.725 He made this website called The Info, where people could just fill in information. 0:06:30.725,0:06:34.987 I'm sure someone out there knows everything about gold, gold leafing. 0:06:34.987,0:06:38.722 Why they don't write about that on this website? And then other people can come at a later point 0:06:38.722,0:06:43.347 and read that information, and edit the information if they thought it was bad. 0:06:43.347,0:06:46.226 Not too dissimilar from Wikipedia, right? 0:06:46.226,0:06:50.474 And this was before Wikipedia begun, and this is developed by a 12 year old, 0:06:50.474,0:06:58.452 in his room, by himself, running on this tiny server, using ancient technology. 0:06:58.452,0:07:06.977 One of the teachers response was, like: This is a terrible idea, you cant' just let anyone author the encyclopedia. 0:07:06.977,0:07:12.464 The whole reason we have scholars is to write these books for us. How did you have such a terrible idea? 0:07:12.484,0:07:20.155 Me and my other brother will go, like: Oh, you know, Wikipedia is cool, but we had that in our house, like, five years ago. 0:07:20.776,0:07:25.597 Aaron's website, theinfo.org, wins a school competition 0:07:25.597,0:07:30.348 hosted by the Cambridge-based web design firm ArsDigita. 0:07:33.758,0:07:38.090 We all went to the Cambridge for the... when he won the art centro prize 0:07:38.090,0:07:40.506 and we had no clue what Aaron was doing. 0:07:40.506,0:07:43.358 It was obvious that the prize was really important. 0:07:43.778,0:07:48.171 Aaron soon became involved with online programming communities, 0:07:48.171,0:07:51.437 then in the process of shaping a new tool for the web. 0:07:51.437,0:07:55.545 He comes up saying to me, like: Ben, there's this really awesome thing that I'm working on. 0:07:55.545,0:07:57.713 You need to hear about it! 0:07:57.713,0:07:59.742 "Yeah, what is it?" 0:07:59.742,0:08:01.769 "It's a thing called RSS." 0:08:02.259,0:08:07.171 And he explains me what RSS is.like... like why is that useful,Aaron? 0:08:07.171,0:08:11.268 Is any site using it, like why would I want to use it? 0:08:11.268,0:08:16.664 There is this mailing list for people who are working on RSS, and XML more generally. 0:08:16.893,0:08:21.134 And there was a person on it named Aaron Swartz who was really competitive but very smart, 0:08:21.134,0:08:24.675 and who has lots of good ideas and he didn't ever come to the face to face meetings 0:08:24.675,0:08:28.566 and he'd never come to face-to-face meetings, and they said, 0:08:28.632,0:08:32.302 you know, when are you gonna come to one of these face-to-face meetings? 0:08:32.322,0:08:36.942 And he said: you know, I don't think my mom would let me. I'm.. I've just turned 14. 0:08:37.222,0:08:42.674 And so their first reaction was, well, you know, this person, this colleague we've been working with all year is... 0:08:42.674,0:08:46.694 was 13 years old while we were working with him, and he's only 14 now. 0:08:46.694,0:08:51.335 And their second reaction was: Christ, we really want to meet him, you know. That's extraordinary! 0:08:51.335,0:08:53.785 He was part of the committee that drafted RSS. 0:08:53.785,0:08:59.151 What he was doing was to help build the plumbing for modern hypertext. 0:08:59.151,0:09:06.056 The piece that he was working on, RSS, was a tool that you can use to get summaries 0:09:06.056,0:09:08.675 of things that are going on on other web pages. 0:09:08.675,0:09:13.295 Most commonly, you would use this for a blog. You might have 10 or 20 people's blogs you wanna read. 0:09:13.359,0:09:18.329 You use their RSS feeds, these summaries of what's going on on those other pages 0:09:18.378,0:09:22.609 to create a unified list of all the stuff that's going on. 0:09:22.609,0:09:27.778 Aaron was really young, but he understood the technology and he saw that it was imperfect 0:09:27.778,0:09:30.418 and looked for ways to help make it better. 0:09:35.645,0:09:39.965 So his mom started bundling him on planes in Chicago, we'd pick him up in San Francicso. 0:09:39.965,0:09:45.363 We'd introduce him to interesting people to argue with, and we'd marvel at his horrific eating habits. 0:09:45.363,0:09:51.072 He only ate white food, only like steamed rice and not fried rice 'cause that wasn't sufficiently white 0:09:51.072,0:09:53.700 and white bread, and so on... 0:09:53.700,0:09:59.250 And you kind of marveled at the quality of the debate emerging from this, 0:09:59.263,0:10:01.744 what appeared to be a small boy's mouth. 0:10:01.744,0:10:05.063 And you'd think, this is a kid that's really going to get somewhere if he doesn't die of scurvy. 0:10:05.063,0:10:06.693 Aaron, you're up! 0:10:06.693,0:10:10.002 I think the difference is that now you can't make companies like dotcoms. 0:10:10.002,0:10:15.720 You can't have companies that just sell dog food over the Internet, or sell dog food over cell phones. 0:10:15.720,0:10:18.186 But there's still a lot of innovation going on. 0:10:18.186,0:10:21.425 Think that maybe if you don't see the innovation, maybe your head is in the sand! 0:10:21.425,0:10:24.696 He takes on this, like an alpha nerd personality, where he's 0:10:24.696,0:10:28.612 sort of like: "I'm smarter than you, and because I'm smarter than you I'm better than you, 0:10:28.612,0:10:30.884 and I can tell you what to do." 0:10:30.884,0:10:35.202 It's an extension of, like, him being kind of like a twerp. 0:10:35.310,0:10:39.010 So you aggregate all these computers together and now they're solving big problems 0:10:39.010,0:10:42.040 like searching for aliens and trying to cure cancer. 0:10:45.110,0:10:48.470 I first met him on IRC, or Internet Relay Chat. 0:10:48.470,0:10:53.490 He didn't just write code, he also got people excited about solving problems he got. 0:10:53.490,0:10:55.617 He was a connector. 0:10:55.617,0:10:58.417 The free culture movement, he had a lot of this energy. 0:10:58.751,0:11:03.872 I think Aaron was trying to make the world work. He was trying to fix it. 0:11:03.872,0:11:08.640 He had a very kind of strong personality, that definitely ruffled feathers at times. 0:11:08.640,0:11:13.395 It wasn't necesarily the case that he was always comfortable in the world 0:11:13.395,0:11:16.265 and the world wasn't always comfortable with him. 0:11:18.994,0:11:22.994 Aaron got into high school and he was really just sick of school. 0:11:22.999,0:11:27.939 He didn't like it, he didn't like any of the classes that were being thaught, he didn't like the teachers. 0:11:27.939,0:11:30.496 Aaron really knew how to get information. 0:11:30.496,0:11:34.819 He was like: "I don't need to go to this teacher to learn how to do geometry. 0:11:34.819,0:11:37.012 I can just read the geometry book. 0:11:37.032,0:11:41.178 And I don't need to go to this teacher to learn their version of American history, 0:11:41.178,0:11:45.400 like I have like three historical compilations here, I could just read them. 0:11:45.400,0:11:49.091 And I'm not interested in that, I'm interested in the web." 0:11:49.091,0:11:53.368 I was very frustrated with school, I thought the teachers didn't know what they were talking about. 0:11:53.368,0:11:57.021 They were domineering and controlling, the homework was kind of a sham 0:11:57.021,0:12:01.103 and it was all just like all about a way to pen students all together and force them to do busywork. 0:12:01.103,0:12:05.305 And, you know, I started reading books about the history of education 0:12:05.305,0:12:07.847 and how this educational system was developed. 0:12:07.847,0:12:11.221 Then, you know, alternatives to it and ways that people could actually learn things 0:12:11.221,0:12:15.021 as opposed to just regurgitating facts that teachers told them. 0:12:15.240,0:12:19.428 And that kind of led me down this path of questioning things, once I questioned the school I was in, 0:12:19.428,0:12:24.361 I questioned the society that built the school, I questioned the businesses that the schools were training people for, 0:12:24.361,0:12:28.089 I questioned the government that set up this whole structure. 0:12:28.089,0:12:32.022 One of the thing he was most passionate about was copyright, especially in those early days. 0:12:32.192,0:12:37.600 Copyright has always been something kind of a burden on the publishing industry and on readers, 0:12:38.120,0:12:43.460 but it wasn't an eccessive burden, it was a reasonable institution to have in place, 0:12:44.477,0:12:46.913 to make sure that people got paid. 0:12:47.045,0:12:53.083 What Aaron's generation experienced was the collision between this antique copyright system 0:12:53.083,0:12:57.120 and this amazing new thing we were trying to build, the Internet and the Web. 0:12:57.120,0:13:00.260 These things collided, and what we got was chaos. 0:13:02.454,0:13:06.061 He then met Harvard's Law professor Lawrence Lessig, 0:13:06.061,0:13:09.328 who was then challenging copyright law in the Supreme Court. 0:13:09.328,0:13:13.269 The young Aaron Swartz flew to Washington to listen to the Supreme Court hearings. 0:13:13.279,0:13:17.759 I am Aaron Swartz and I'm here to listen to the LD, to see the LD document. 0:13:17.894,0:13:23.144 Why did you fly out here from Chicago and come all this way to see the LD argument? 0:13:23.493,0:13:25.743 That's a more difficult question... 0:13:29.231,0:13:33.974 I don't know. It's very exciting to see the Supreme Court, 0:13:33.974,0:13:36.704 especially in such a prestigious case as this one. 0:13:42.669,0:13:47.039 Lessig was also moving forward with a new way to define copyright on the Internet. 0:13:47.039,0:13:49.356 It was called Creative Commons. 0:13:49.356,0:13:53.560 So the simple idea of Creative Commons is to give people, creators, 0:13:53.560,0:13:58.694 a simple way to mark their creativity with the freedoms they intended to carry. 0:13:58.694,0:14:04.583 So if copyright is all about "All rights reserved", then this is a kind of a "Some rights reserved" model. 0:14:04.583,0:14:08.789 I want a simple way to say to you: here is what you can do with my work, 0:14:08.979,0:14:13.715 even if there are other things which you need to get my permission before you could do. 0:14:13.715,0:14:16.501 And Aaron's role was the computer part. 0:14:16.501,0:14:20.802 Like how do you architect the licenses so they'll be simple and understandable 0:14:20.802,0:14:24.127 and expressed in a way so that machines can process it. 0:14:24.207,0:14:29.994 And people were like: why do you have this 15 years old kid writing the specifications for Creative Commons? 0:14:29.994,0:14:32.159 Don't you think that's a huge mistake? 0:14:32.159,0:14:35.679 And they're like: the biggest mistake we would have is not listening to this kid. 0:14:36.031,0:14:39.668 He barely is not even tall enough to even get over the podium. 0:14:39.711,0:14:43.100 And it was this movable podium so it was this embarrassing thing, 0:14:43.102,0:14:45.968 where once he put his screen up nobody could see his face. 0:14:46.874,0:14:51.257 When you come to our website here, and you go to "Choose license", 0:14:51.257,0:14:56.957 it gives you this list of options, it explains what it means, and you got three simple questions: 0:14:57.740,0:15:00.055 "Do you want to require attribution?" 0:15:00.225,0:15:03.287 "Do you want to allow commercial uses of your work?" 0:15:03.507,0:15:06.413 "Do you want to allow modifications of your work?" 0:15:06.413,0:15:12.246 I was floored, just completely flabbergasted that these adults regarded him as an adult. 0:15:12.246,0:15:16.428 And Aaron stood up there in fromt of a whole audience full of people and just started talking 0:15:16.428,0:15:20.421 about the platform that he'd created for Creative Commons. 0:15:20.421,0:15:23.372 And they were all listening to him. Just... 0:15:23.372,0:15:28.742 I was sitting at the back, thinking: he's just a kid, why are they listening to him? 0:15:28.892,0:15:29.978 But they did... 0:15:30.168,0:15:32.784 Well, I don't think I comprehended it fully. 0:15:32.784,0:15:37.171 Though critics have said it does little to ensure artists get paid for their work, 0:15:37.216,0:15:40.572 the success of Creative Commons has been enormous. 0:15:40.572,0:15:46.776 Currently on the website Flickr alone, over 200 million people use some form of Creative Commons license. 0:15:46.992,0:15:56.638 He contributed through his technical abilities, and yet it was not simply a technical matter to him. 0:15:57.651,0:16:00.551 Aaron often wrote candidly in his personal blog: 0:16:01.101,0:16:05.812 I think deeply about things, and I want others to do likewise. 0:16:06.722,0:16:11.049 I work for ideas and learn from people. I don't like excluding people. 0:16:11.429,0:16:15.556 I'm a perfectionist, but I won't let that get in the way of publication. 0:16:15.636,0:16:19.661 Except for education and entertainment, I'm not going to waste my time 0:16:19.661,0:16:21.654 on things that won't have an impact. 0:16:21.654,0:16:26.161 I try to be friends with everyone, but I hate it when you don't take me seriously. 0:16:26.161,0:16:32.086 I don't hold grudges, it's not productive, but I learn from my experience. 0:16:32.086,0:16:35.396 I want to make the world a better place. 0:16:41.102,0:16:46.475 In 2004, Swartz leaves Highland Park and enrolls in Stanford University. 0:16:46.475,0:16:51.848 He'd had ulcerative colitis which was very troubling and we were concerned about him taking his medication. 0:16:51.848,0:16:55.863 He got hospitalized and he would take this cocktail of pills every day. 0:16:56.753,0:17:01.093 And one of those pills was a steroid which stunted his growth, 0:17:01.093,0:17:04.782 and made him feel different from any of the other students. 0:17:04.782,0:17:07.828 Aaron, I think, shows up at Stanford ready to do scholarship 0:17:07.828,0:17:12.801 and finds himself in effectively a babysitting program for overachieving high-schoolers 0:17:12.801,0:17:20.828 who in four years are meant to become captains of industry and one-percenters 0:17:20.828,0:17:25.578 and I think it just made him bananas. 0:17:26.077,0:17:29.197 In 2005, after only one year of college, 0:17:29.197,0:17:35.874 Schwartz was offered a spot at a new start-up incubation firm called Y Combinator, lead by Paul Graham. 0:17:36.431,0:17:39.777 He's like, "Hey, I have this idea for a a website." 0:17:39.851,0:17:43.170 And Paul Graham likes him enough, and says, "Yeah, sure." 0:17:43.170,0:17:46.650 Suddenly he drops out of school, moves to this apartment... 0:17:46.668,0:17:49.604 So this used to be Aaron's apartment when he moved here. 0:17:49.604,0:17:55.397 I have vague memories of my father telling me how difficult it was to get a lease 0:17:55.397,0:17:58.737 'cause Aaron had no credit and he dropped out of college. 0:17:58.742,0:18:04.989 Aaron lived in what's now the livingroom and some of the posters are leftovers from when Aaron lived here. 0:18:04.989,0:18:09.889 And the library... there are more books, but a lot of them are Aaron's. 0:18:11.551,0:18:17.511 Aaron's Y Combinator site was called infogami, a tool to build websites. 0:18:17.511,0:18:21.098 But infogami struggles to find users, and Swartz eventually 0:18:21.098,0:18:25.037 merges his company with another Y Combinator project in need of help. 0:18:25.037,0:18:29.919 It was a project headed by Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian, called reddit. 0:18:29.919,0:18:33.988 That we were, starting from almost nothing. No users, no money, no code, 0:18:33.988,0:18:37.657 and growing day by day into a hugely popular website. 0:18:37.657,0:18:39.846 And it showed no signs of letting up, 0:18:39.846,0:18:44.373 first we had 1000 users, then 10000, then 20000 and on, and on... It was just incredible... 0:18:44.373,0:18:49.563 reddit becomes huge and it's a real sort of geeky corner of the Internet. 0:18:52.642,0:19:01.220 There's a lot of humor, there's a lot of art, and there's just people who flocked to the site 0:19:01.220,0:19:07.883 and made that site the main site they go to every morning to get their news. 0:19:07.883,0:19:12.008 reddit kind of just borders on chaos at some levels, 0:19:12.008,0:19:19.368 so on the one hand it's a place where people discuss news of the day, technology, politics and issues, 0:19:19.368,0:19:24.824 and yet there is a lot of kind of Not Safe For Work material, offensive material, 0:19:24.824,0:19:29.716 there are some sub-reddits where trolls find a welcome home 0:19:29.716,0:19:33.929 and so, in that sense reddit has been kind of home to controversy, as well. 0:19:33.929,0:19:36.791 It kind of sits on that edge of chaos. 0:19:36.791,0:19:41.081 reddit catches the attention of the corporate magazine giant Condé Nast, 0:19:41.081,0:19:42.938 who makes an offer to buy the company. 0:19:42.938,0:19:46.939 Some large amount of money, large enough that my dad was getting bugged with questions 0:19:46.939,0:19:51.079 about like: "How do I store this money?" 0:19:51.302,0:19:54.272 - Like a lot of money...[br]- Like a lot of money. 0:19:54.272,0:20:00.319 Like probably more than a million dollars, but I don't actually know. 0:20:00.319,0:20:03.461 - And he's how old at the time?[br]- 19 - 20... 0:20:05.165,0:20:11.205 So it was in this apartment, they sat around [br]on what predated these couches 0:20:11.205,0:20:14.675 hacking on reddit, and when they sold reddit 0:20:14.757,0:20:18.641 they threw a giant party, and then all flew[br]out to California the next day 0:20:18.641,0:20:21.885 and left the keys with me. 0:20:24.261,0:20:27.480 It was funny, you know, he'd just sold his start up so we all presumed 0:20:27.480,0:20:29.329 he was the richest person around 0:20:29.329,0:20:33.920 but he said, "Oh no, I'll take this tiny little[br]shoe-box sized room. That's all I need." 0:20:33.920,0:20:36.146 It was barely larger than a closet. 0:20:36.146,0:20:42.499 The idea of him spending his money on[br]fancy objects just seemed so implausible. 0:20:42.580,0:20:47.590 He explains it as "I like living in apartments so I'm not going to spend a lot of money on a new place to live, I'm not gonna buy a mansion. 0:20:47.750,0:20:49.888 And I like wearing jeans and a T-shirt, 0:20:50.016,0:20:52.046 so I'm not going to spend any more money on clothes. 0:20:52.046,0:20:54.576 So it's really no big deal." 0:20:54.576,0:20:57.966 What is a big deal to Swartz is how traffic [br]flows on the internet. 0:20:58.140,0:21:00.680 And what commands our attention. 0:21:00.844,0:21:04.252 In the old system of broadcasting, you're[br]fundamentally limited by the amount of 0:21:04.252,0:21:08.583 space in the airwaves. You can only send out ten channels over the airwaves, television 0:21:08.583,0:21:10.915 or even with cable, you had 500 channels. 0:21:11.003,0:21:15.593 On the Internet, everybody can have a channel. [br]Everyone can get a blog, or a Myspace page. 0:21:15.690,0:21:18.274 Everyone has a way of expressing themselves. [br] 0:21:18.274,0:21:21.280 What you see now is not a question of who gets[br]access to the airwaves, 0:21:21.280,0:21:25.100 it's a question of who gets control over the [br]ways you find people. 0:21:25.120,0:21:29.286 You know, you start seeing power centralizing in sites like Google, they are sort of gate-keepers that tell you 0:21:29.286,0:21:30.993 where on the internet you want to go. 0:21:30.993,0:21:34.273 The people who provide you your sources of news and information. 0:21:34.273,0:21:38.314 So it's not only certain people have a license to speak, now everyone has 0:21:38.314,0:21:40.904 a license to speak. It's a question of who gets heard. 0:21:45.196,0:21:49.806 After he started working in San Francisco [br]at Condé Nast, he comes into the office 0:21:49.806,0:21:53.792 and they want to give him a computer with all[br]this crap installed on it 0:21:53.792,0:21:57.273 and say he can't install any new things [br]on his computer, 0:21:57.273,0:21:59.375 which to developers is outrageous. 0:21:59.375,0:22:02.095 From the first day he was complaining[br]about all the stuff. 0:22:05.317,0:22:11.147 "Gray walls, gray desks, gray noise. The first[br]day I showed up here, I simply couldn't take it. 0:22:11.147,0:22:15.483 By lunchtime, I had literally locked myself [br]in a bathroom stall and started crying. 0:22:15.483,0:22:18.285 I can't imagine staying sane with someone[br]buzzing in my ear all day[br] 0:22:18.285,0:22:21.575 Let alone getting any actual work done. [br] 0:22:21.575,0:22:24.087 Nobody else seems to get work done here either 0:22:24.087,0:22:27.587 Everybody's always coming into our room to [br]hang out and chat, or invite us to play [br][br] 0:22:27.587,0:22:29.927 the new video game system that Wired is testing." 0:22:32.972,0:22:37.867 He really had different aspirations that were politically oriented. 0:22:37.987,0:22:41.862 And Silicon Valley just doesn't really quite have that culture 0:22:41.862,0:22:46.967 that orients technical activity for the purposes of political goals. 0:22:47.237,0:22:49.613 Aaron hated working for a corporation. 0:22:49.613,0:22:53.673 They all hate working for Condé Nast, but Aaron[br]is the only one who is not going to take it. 0:22:53.694,0:22:55.884 And Aaron basically gets himself fired. 0:22:55.903,0:22:58.313 By not showing up to work, ever. 0:23:01.183,0:23:05.434 It was said to be a messy break-up. [br]Both Alexis Ohanian and Steve Huffman 0:23:05.447,0:23:08.277 declined to be interviewed for this film. 0:23:09.251,0:23:15.891 He rejected the business world. One of the really important things to remember about 0:23:15.891,0:23:22.664 that choice when Aaron decided to leave start-up[br]culture is that he was also leaving behind 0:23:22.664,0:23:31.334 the things that had made him famous and well-loved.[br]He was at risk of letting down fans. 0:23:31.422,0:23:35.866 He got to where he was supposed to be going, and had the self-awareness 0:23:35.866,0:23:43.051 and the orneriness to realize that he had climbed the mountain of shit to pluck 0:23:43.051,0:23:45.849 the single rose and discovered that he'd lost his sense of smell. 0:23:45.849,0:23:50.399 And rather than sit there and insist that it wasn't as bad as it seemed, 0:23:50.399,0:23:53.693 and he did get the rose in any event, 0:23:53.693,0:23:57.413 he climbed back down again, which is pretty cool. 0:23:58.026,0:24:01.728 The way Aaron always saw it is that [br]programming is magic. 0:24:01.728,0:24:07.110 You can accomplish these things that normal[br]humans can't, by being able to program. 0:24:07.110,0:24:13.310 So if you had magical powers, would you use [br]them for good, or to make you mountains of cash? 0:24:15.009,0:24:18.478 Swartz was inspired by one of the visionaries[br]he had met as a child. 0:24:18.478,0:24:22.387 The man who had invented the World Wide Web,[br]Tim Berners-Lee. 0:24:22.387,0:24:25.938 In the 1990s, Berners-Lee was arguably sitting on 0:24:25.938,0:24:29.260 one of the most lucrative inventions of [br]the 20th century. [br] 0:24:29.260,0:24:35.137 But instead of profiting from the invention [br]of the World Wide Web, he gave it away for free. 0:24:36.067,0:24:39.707 It is the only reason the World Wide Web exists today. 0:24:41.118,0:24:45.261 Aaron is certainly deeply influenced by Tim. 0:24:45.261,0:24:50.928 Tim is certainly a very prominent early Internet genius, who doesn't in any sense cash out. 0:24:50.928,0:24:55.865 He's not at all interested in how he's going to figure out how to make a billion dollars. 0:24:55.865,0:24:57.829 People were saying, "Ah there's money to be made there", 0:24:57.829,0:25:00.636 so there would have been lots of little webs. 0:25:00.636,0:25:02.139 Instead of one big one. 0:25:02.139,0:25:05.030 And one little web, all sorts of webs doesn't work, 0:25:05.030,0:25:08.080 because you can't follow links from one to the other. 0:25:10.173,0:25:14.112 You had to have the critical masses, the thing was the entire planet, 0:25:14.112,0:25:17.172 so it's not going to work unless the whole planet can get on board. 0:25:24.141,0:25:28.372 I feel very strongly that it's not enough to just live in the world as it is, 0:25:28.702,0:25:34.732 it's just kind of take what you're given, and you know follow the things that adults told you to do, 0:25:34.732,0:25:39.032 and that your parents told you to do, and that society tells you to do. I think you should always be questioning. 0:25:39.045,0:25:43.145 I take this very scientific attitude, that [br]everything you've learned is just provisional, 0:25:43.405,0:25:49.267 you know, it's always open to recantation or refutation or [br]questioning, and I think the same applies to society. 0:25:49.267,0:25:53.491 Once I realized that there were real serious problems, fundamental problems 0:25:53.491,0:25:58.601 that I could do something to address, I didn't see a way to forget that, I didn't see a way not to. 0:26:02.600,0:26:04.831 We just started spending a lot of time,[br] 0:26:04.831,0:26:06.621 just kind of as friends. 0:26:08.912,0:26:11.884 We would just talk for hours, into the night. 0:26:14.393,0:26:18.110 I definitely should have understood that he was flirting with me. I think to some degree 0:26:18.110,0:26:23.980 I was like, this is a terrible idea, and impossible, and therefore I will pretend it is not happening. 0:26:25.161,0:26:28.937 As my marriage was breaking down and I was[br]really stuck without anywhere to go, [br] 0:26:28.937,0:26:32.927 we became roommates, and I brought my daughter over. 0:26:34.081,0:26:37.246 We moved in and furnished the house, and it [br]was really peaceful. 0:26:37.246,0:26:40.816 My life had not been peaceful for a while, and really neither had his. 0:26:46.225,0:26:54.073 We were extremely close from the beginning of our romantic relationship. 0:26:54.073,0:26:57.633 We just...we were in constant contact. 0:26:57.633,0:27:02.432 But we're both really difficult people to deal with. 0:27:04.495,0:27:10.865 In a very Ally McBeal discussion he confessed he had a theme song, and I made him play it for me. 0:27:12.345,0:27:16.504 It was Extraordinary Machine, by Fiona Apple. 0:27:16.504,0:27:24.154 I think it was just that sense of being a little bit embattled that the song has. 0:27:25.054,0:27:27.697 And it also had this hopefulness to it.[br] 0:27:27.837,0:27:34.418 ♪ By foot it's a slow climb. But I'm good[br]at being uncomfortable so I can't stop... 0:27:34.418,0:27:36.689 changing all the time ♪ 0:27:36.689,0:27:44.481 In many ways, Aaron was tremendously optimistic[br]about life. Even when he didn't feel it, [br] 0:27:44.481,0:27:47.041 he could be tremendously optimistic about life. 0:27:47.041,0:27:49.561 ♪ Extraordinary machine ♪ 0:27:53.237,0:27:58.317 - What are you doing?[br](Quinn) - Flicker has video now. 0:27:59.730,0:28:01.743 Swartz threw his energy into a string of new 0:28:01.743,0:28:04.731 projects involving access to public information. 0:28:04.731,0:28:08.189 Including an accountability webside called[br]Watchdog.net 0:28:08.189,0:28:10.799 and a project called The Open Library. 0:28:10.986,0:28:15.299 So the Open Library Project is a website you can visit at openlibrary.org 0:28:15.299,0:28:19.778 and the idea is to be a huge wiki, an editable website with one page per book. 0:28:19.778,0:28:23.910 So for every book ever published, we want to have a web page about it that combines 0:28:23.910,0:28:29.551 all the information from publishers, from booksellers, from libraries, from readers 0:28:29.551,0:28:34.587 onto one site. And then gives you links where[br]you can buy it, you can borrow it, or you can browse it. 0:28:34.587,0:28:39.958 I love libraries. I'm the kind of person who [br]goes to a new city and immediately seeks out the library 0:28:39.958,0:28:44.050 That's the dream of Open Library, is building this website where both you can leap 0:28:44.050,0:28:49.297 from book to book, from person to author, from subject to idea. Go through this vast tree 0:28:49.297,0:28:54.127 of knowledge that's been embedded and lost in big physical libraries, that's hard to find, 0:28:54.177,0:28:59.086 that's not very well accessible online. It's really important because books are our cultural legacy. 0:28:59.086,0:29:01.283 Books are the place people go to write things down, 0:29:01.283,0:29:05.813 and to have all that swallowed up by one corporation is kind of scary. 0:29:06.730,0:29:10.771 How can you bring public access to the public domain? 0:29:10.771,0:29:14.828 It may sound obvious that you'd have public access to the public domain, 0:29:14.828,0:29:21.368 but in fact it's not true. So the public domain should be free to all, but it's often locked up. 0:29:21.378,0:29:26.756 There's often guard cages. It's like having a national park but with a moat around it, 0:29:26.756,0:29:33.245 and gun turrets pointed out, in case somebody may want to actually come and enjoy the public domain. 0:29:33.245,0:29:39.458 One of the things Aaron was particularly interested in was bringing public access to the public domain. 0:29:39.458,0:29:43.258 This is one of the things that got him into so much trouble. 0:29:46.254,0:29:52.794 I had been trying to get access to federal court records in the United States. 0:29:54.458,0:29:59.108 What I discovered was a puzzling system, called Pacer. 0:29:59.518,0:30:03.124 Which stands for Public Access to Court Electronic Records. 0:30:03.124,0:30:07.314 I started Googling, and that's when I ran[br]across Carl Malamud. 0:30:08.886,0:30:14.997 Access to legal materials in the U.S. is a[br]$10 billion per year business. 0:30:14.997,0:30:23.004 Pacer is just this incredible abomination[br]of government services. It's 10 cents a page, 0:30:23.004,0:30:27.471 it's this most braindead code you've ever seen. You can't search it, you can't bookmark anything. 0:30:27.471,0:30:31.891 You've got to have a credit card, and these are public records. 0:30:31.891,0:30:37.429 U.S. district courts are very important, it's[br]where a lot of our seminal litigation starts. 0:30:37.429,0:30:44.369 Civil rights cases, patent cases, all sorts of stuff. Journalists, students, citizens and lawyers 0:30:44.369,0:30:48.637 all need access to Pacer and it fights them every step of the way. 0:30:48.637,0:30:55.246 People without means can't see the law as readily as people that have that gold American Express card. 0:30:55.246,0:30:57.776 It's a poll tax on access to justice. 0:30:57.946,0:31:04.096 You know the law is the operating system of our democracy and you have to pay to see it? 0:31:04.246,0:31:07.135 You know, that's not much of a democracy. 0:31:07.135,0:31:11.869 They make about 120 million dollars a year on the Pacer system 0:31:11.869,0:31:18.236 and it doesn't cost anything near that, according to their own records. In fact, it's illegal. 0:31:18.937,0:31:25.834 The E-government Act of 2002 states that the courts may charge only to the extent necessary, 0:31:25.834,0:31:29.591 in order to reimburse the costs of running Pacer. 0:31:34.621,0:31:40.160 As the founder of Public.Resource.Org, Malamud wanted to protest the Pacer charges. 0:31:40.160,0:31:43.300 He started a program called the Pacer Recycling Project, 0:31:43.300,0:31:47.297 where people could upload Pacer documents they had already paid for 0:31:47.297,0:31:50.334 to a free database so others could use them. 0:31:50.334,0:31:55.331 The Pacer people were getting a lot of flack from Congress and others about public access, 0:31:55.336,0:32:00.925 and so they put togheter a system in 17 libraries across the country that was free Pacer access. 0:32:01.885,0:32:07.625 You know, that's one library every 22,000 square miles, I believe, so it wasn't like pretty convenient. 0:32:08.095,0:32:12.173 I encouraged volunteers to join the so-called Thumb Drive Court, 0:32:12.173,0:32:17.157 and download docs from the public access libraries, upload them to the Pacer recycling site. 0:32:17.157,0:32:20.813 People take a thumb drive to one of these libraries and they downloaded a bunch of documents 0:32:20.813,0:32:25.089 and they sent it to me... I mean, it was just a joke. 0:32:25.089,0:32:28.636 In fact, when you clicked on Thumb Drive Court, there was a Wizard of Oz [movie clip], 0:32:28.636,0:32:32.111 you know, the Munchkin singing, so a videoclip came up: 0:32:32.173,0:32:35.034 ♪ We represent the lollipop guild. ♪ 0:32:35.260,0:32:39.386 But of course I get this phone calls from Steve Shultz and Aaron, saying: 0:32:39.621,0:32:43.047 Gee, we'd like to join the Thumb Drive Court. 0:32:43.377,0:32:47.544 Around that time I ran into Aaron at a conference. 0:32:47.544,0:32:51.633 This is something that really has to be a collaboration between a lot of different people. 0:32:51.633,0:32:53.347 So I approached him and I said: 0:32:53.347,0:32:58.195 Hey, I am thinking about an intervention on the Pacer problem. 0:32:59.865,0:33:04.442 Schultz had already developed a program that could automatically download Pacer documents 0:33:04.442,0:33:06.459 from the trial libraries. 0:33:06.459,0:33:08.796 Swartz wanted to take a look. 0:33:08.796,0:33:13.481 So, I showed him the code and I didn't know what would come next, 0:33:13.481,0:33:19.033 but as it turns out, over the course of the next few hours at that conference, 0:33:19.033,0:33:24.588 he was off sitting in a corner, improving my code, recruiting a friend of his 0:33:24.588,0:33:32.139 that lived near one of these libraries to go into the library and to begin to test his improved code, 0:33:32.139,0:33:38.440 at which point the folks at the courts realized something is not going quite according to plan. 0:33:38.440,0:33:42.901 And data started to come in, and come in, and come in 0:33:42.901,0:33:47.632 and soon there was 760 GB of Pacer docs, about 20 million pages. 0:33:48.862,0:33:52.098 Using information retrieved from the trial libraries, 0:33:52.098,0:33:57.304 Swartz was conducting massive automated parallel downloading of the Pacer system. 0:33:57.304,0:34:04.360 He was able to acquire nearly 2.7 million Federal Court documents, almost 20 million pages of text. 0:34:04.360,0:34:09.865 Now I'll grant you that 20 million pages had perhaps exceed the expectations of the people 0:34:09.865,0:34:14.535 running the pilot access project, but surprising a bureaucrat isn't illegal. 0:34:14.830,0:34:19.096 Aaron and Carl decided to go talk to The New York Times about what happened. 0:34:19.731,0:34:26.500 They also caught the attention of the FBI, who began to stake out Swartz parents house in Illinois. 0:34:26.639,0:34:31.053 And I get a tweet from his mother, saying: "Call me!!" 0:34:31.053,0:34:34.127 So, I think, like, what the hell's going on here? 0:34:34.127,0:34:38.981 And so, finally I get a hold of Aaron and, you know, Aaron's mother was like: "Oh my God, FBI, FBI, FBI!" 0:34:40.271,0:34:45.831 An FBI agent drives down our home's driveway, trying to see if Aaron is, like, in his room. 0:34:47.164,0:34:51.899 I remember being home that day, and wondering why this car was driving down our driveway, 0:34:51.899,0:34:55.110 and just driving back up. That's weird! 0:34:56.719,0:35:04.953 Like, five years later I read this FBI file, like, oh my goodness: that was the FBI agent, in my driveway. 0:35:05.185,0:35:09.009 He was terrified. He was totally terrified. 0:35:09.959,0:35:14.920 He was way more terrified after the FBI actually called him up on the phone, 0:35:15.280,0:35:19.302 and tried to sucker him into coming down to a coffee shop without a lawyer. 0:35:19.322,0:35:23.664 He said, he went home and lay down on the bed and, you know, was shaking. 0:35:25.511,0:35:30.006 The downloading also uncovered massive privacy violations in the court documents. 0:35:30.242,0:35:34.922 Ultimately, the courts were forced to change their policies as a result. 0:35:34.922,0:35:42.530 And the FBI closed their investigation without bringing charges. 0:35:42.530,0:35:47.602 To this day, I found it remarkable. 0:35:47.602,0:35:50.983 That anybody, even the most remote podunk field office of the FBI 0:35:50.983,0:35:53.237 thought that a fitting use for tax-payers dollars was investigating people 0:35:53.237,0:35:55.491 for criminal theft on the grounds that they had made the law public. 0:35:55.491,0:35:57.746 How can you call yourself a lawman 0:35:58.055,0:36:02.055 And think that there could be possibly anything wrong in this all world 0:36:02.055,0:36:03.815 with making the law public ? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Aaron was willing to put himself at risk for the causes that the causes he believed in. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Bothered by wealth disparity, Swartz moves beyond technology into a broad range of political causes. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I went into Congress and I invited him to come and hang out an intern for us for a while 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so that he could learn, you know, the political process. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 He was sort of learning about new community and new sets of skills and kind of learning to hack politics. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It seems ridiculous that miners should have to hammer away until their whole bodies are dripping with sweat 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 facing with the knowledge that if they dare to stop, they wouldn't able to put food on their table that night. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 While I get to make larger and larger amounts of money each day just by sitting and watching TV. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But apparently the world is ridiculous. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, I co-founded a group called "The Progressive Change Campaign Community", 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and what we trying to do is we try to organize people over the Internet who care about progressive politics 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and move into the country with more progressive direction 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 To kind of come together, join our e-mail list journal campaign 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and help us to get progressive candidates select all across the countries. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The group is responsible for uniting the [less] effort behind the campaign to elect Elizabeth Warren to the senate 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 He might have thought of this dumb system but he came in and he said, "I need to learn the system" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because you can be manipulated like any, you know, any social system. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but his passion for knowledge and libraries didn't take a back seat 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Arron began to take a closer look at the institution the published academic journal articles 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 My virtue of being a student that made of US university, I assume you have a wide variety of scholar [lessing] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000