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Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.53,0:00:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,URSULA VON RYDINGSVARD:\NMy work is so labor intensive that often
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.72,0:00:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm doing things that are highly repetitive
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.00,0:00:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to get to the end of \Nthe piece or of the project.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.24,0:00:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's actually pretty easy to have an image,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.60,0:00:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to realize it is a deep deal.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.48,0:00:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often when you're in the \Nprocess of realizing an image,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.08,0:00:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's going somewhere else.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.36,0:01:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that tangent starts going off in \Na place that feels more exciting,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.24,0:01:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what I go with.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.40,0:01:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up as one of seven children
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.48,0:01:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the post-World War II refugee \Ncamps for Polish people in Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.48,0:01:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents were extraordinary survivors,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.32,0:01:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my home was one in which \Nwords were not used very often,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.64,0:01:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in fact anybody that used too \Nmany words was automatically suspect.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.96,0:01:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I drank from the world through visual means.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.60,0:01:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a huge source of the \Ninformation by which I lived.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.68,0:01:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I learned you smile but you ration that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.80,0:01:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You laugh, but not very frequently,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.64,0:01:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really at appropriate times.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.20,0:02:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that working hard was the answer to life.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.68,0:02:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I almost think of it as the way \Nthat the Shakers might live.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.20,0:02:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We stayed in wooden barracks,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.32,0:02:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,raw wooden floors, raw wooden walls
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.16,0:02:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and raw wooden ceilings so
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.12,0:02:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere in my blood I'm \Ndipping into that source.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.16,0:02:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I build everything out of cedar.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.40,0:02:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very neutral. Almost like a piece of paper.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.44,0:02:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we build the sculpture, \Nwe build it layer by layer.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.64,0:02:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I draw the outside lines of each \Nof the pieces that you see here.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.04,0:02:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cutters cut them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.00,0:02:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We put them back here.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.28,0:02:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We then mark it precisely.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.80,0:02:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the outside--you see some \Nof these marks on the outside?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.24,0:02:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on the inside, on the top portions these marks
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.04,0:02:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are actually the most precise of all
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.04,0:02:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that if any one of these pieces \Nwere to be tossed or to be lost,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.60,0:02:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could find them and put \Nthem back where they belong.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.12,0:03:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We build it and screw it all together.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.08,0:03:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we take it off layer by layer by layer
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.72,0:03:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to glue it layer by layer.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.80,0:03:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cutters by the way are \Nthe princes of my studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.56,0:03:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are cutters who cut lyrically,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.96,0:03:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are cutters who cut very aggressively,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.48,0:03:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and depending on what I need, that's who I use.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.00,0:03:43.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to make an organic form you \Nneed to have many, many straight cuts.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.88,0:03:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The surface is a kind of landscape \Nthat I get carried away with.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.93,0:04:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My definition of a landscape \Nthat could also have to do with
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.40,0:04:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of psychological landscape \Nor an emotional landscape.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.74,0:04:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Graphite is a very, very fine \Npowder and because it's so fine,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.92,0:04:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's able to get into the pores of the cedar.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.32,0:04:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really put it on in a very hefty way so that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.76,0:04:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really grind it with a brush into the surface.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.83,0:04:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we scoured the surface to further define
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.84,0:04:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I wanted the surface to do
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.84,0:04:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that surface is extremely important to me
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.44,0:04:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of communicating emotionally.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.52,0:04:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never do a model–
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.96,0:04:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never do drawings for my works–
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.16,0:04:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they close me in.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.92,0:05:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they limit my options.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.44,0:05:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't get too predictable.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.08,0:05:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to have surprises all over the place.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.72,0:05:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If for nothing else, then \Njust to keep my head going–
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.48,0:05:13.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep my mind alive.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.96,0:05:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think to have any level of interest
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.36,0:05:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to have some sort of combat, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.68,0:05:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's occurring within the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.44,0:05:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And anger has been a tremendous \Nmobilizing force for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.16,0:05:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm grateful to my anger.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.96,0:05:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The confrontation in part lies \Nwith my struggle with the cedar.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.68,0:05:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's always telling me what it needs to do
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.24,0:05:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that I'm trying to \Ntell it what I want it to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.04,0:05:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a sculpture that I want \Nto look as though it's ravaged.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.74,0:06:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As though it's been kind of beaten up by life.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.00,0:06:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anything that has to do with chaos is as \Ninteresting if not more so than order.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.28,0:06:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a machine that's meant only \Nfor metal to grind on top of wood
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.76,0:06:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what it does is it burns its surface.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.72,0:06:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, that's what gives it a whole \Nother landscape and a whole other depth.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.72,0:06:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mine are definitely not utilitarian objects
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.64,0:06:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I learned from that which is vernacular.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.92,0:07:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I consider these my drawings.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.28,0:07:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are three-dimensional but \Nthey're actually quite complicated
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.40,0:07:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of all of the markings on their surface.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.60,0:07:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is chalk and that's graphite.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.99,0:07:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's made out of wood--out of cedar, obviously–
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.24,0:07:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's still lace because it \Nwanders in a way that's very wayward
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.52,0:07:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's very open.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.72,0:07:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see through it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.20,0:07:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I deliberately, consciously,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.00,0:07:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,set out to make it feel and look light.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.92,0:07:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love the man-made and nature kind of \Nreally becoming fused or becoming one.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.08,0:07:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the project at Madison Square Park,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.40,0:07:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the urethane bonnet, I wanted a transparent look–
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.32,0:07:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a look of walls that the light went through.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.36,0:07:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted a very agitated surface and the hood that \Nis over the bonnet is almost like a little porch.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.12,0:08:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very erratic and it's very celebratory
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.96,0:08:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it needed that translucency of the light.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.35,0:08:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there were twelve marriages \Nthat took place inside the bonnet.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.04,0:08:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Certainly that part of the \Npiece was a big success.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.04,0:08:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do have books that I've written in.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.44,0:08:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use this as a way to talk to myself
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.84,0:08:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I write down my dreams,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.32,0:08:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documenting them is one of the \Nthings that makes me feel lighter.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.64,0:08:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I draw because it's something that \NI like to do from time to time.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.04,0:08:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've never shown my drawings–
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.88,0:08:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very shy about my drawings.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.27,0:08:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They really are mine.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.52,0:09:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't help but think right now that
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.20,0:09:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe the best drawings are the \Nones that I leave for a while.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.52,0:09:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let it gestate because as time goes by
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.55,0:09:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it becomes more and more obvious.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.18,0:09:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This particular drawing I've \Nworked on for I think over a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.04,0:09:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's almost like a patchwork quilt you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.64,0:09:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think of these things not really as sewing,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.16,0:09:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe as cuts that the surgeon then sews later.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.52,0:09:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of them as a kind of landscape \Nthat you look at from the top.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.72,0:10:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This piece is the most baroque \Npiece that I've done in my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.84,0:10:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's also the kind of landscape \Nyou find on a human body.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.80,0:10:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The interiors of these pouches \Nhad a tremendous amount to do with
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.64,0:10:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,defining what the exterior does.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.68,0:10:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want people to enjoy the \Nvoluptuousness of the piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.60,0:10:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want the piece to walk with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.28,0:10:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel that anchoring these \Nstructures and anchoring these forms
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.24,0:10:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a part of the power behind how it speaks.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.45,0:10:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gravity serves an incredibly \Nimportant purpose for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.32,0:10:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This wall pocket has a flat, flat back
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.00,0:11:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it actually can edge up against a wall.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.28,0:11:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's kind of a humbleness to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.72,0:11:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's almost an introverted feel that it has.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.24,0:11:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need the inside to be as \Ncarefully considered as the outside.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.12,0:11:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have this idea of almost like \Nsomething that would–
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.46,0:11:36.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, almost like something that a body could excavate from.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.20,0:11:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, could sort of be \Nmolded with and then escape from.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.60,0:11:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My whole cedar studio is loaded \Nwith pieces that are unfinished
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.52,0:11:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I need all of those things \Nin my environment to feed me,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.44,0:11:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give me always options.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.88,0:12:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing can exist in my head without opposites.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.24,0:12:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The opposites don't have to be complete opposites,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.44,0:12:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they can be things that \Ndon't ordinarily belong together.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.56,0:12:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within a piece that has tremendous \Namount of agitation and agony,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.52,0:12:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there can also be something very hushed
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.68,0:12:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and very quiet and very lyrical and very humane–
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.68,0:12:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also within the context of something that \Nfeels as though it's full of violence.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.28,0:12:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That within it one can have \Nsomething that feels humble
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.56,0:12:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that feels as though it's capable \Nof giving you a "głaskać po głowie" –
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.08,0:12:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the capacity of petting you on the \Nhead in a most gentle sort of way.