[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.08,0:00:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: If you could go back in time Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.03,0:00:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the first day of your ministry Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.70,0:00:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and speak to a young Clint Leiter, Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.62,0:00:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what would you tell him Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.04,0:00:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and most stress to him? Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.06,0:00:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clint: I would say be \Ncertain of your calling. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.04,0:00:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're going to last in the ministry, Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.03,0:00:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've got to know that you are Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.97,0:00:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the will of God being there. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.56,0:00:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Apostle Paul did that. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.64,0:00:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I've counted six of his letters, Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.67,0:00:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he opened to different churches, Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.38,0:00:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.12,0:00:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the will of God." Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.98,0:00:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He keeps saying "by the will of God." Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.72,0:00:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he might be saying that surely Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.77,0:00:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the benefit of the Corinthians Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.57,0:00:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the Colossians Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.95,0:00:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whichever church that he's addressing, Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.18,0:00:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but surely he's reiterating \Nthat in his own mind. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.06,0:00:58.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is that confirmation \Nin the mind of a pastor Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.11,0:01:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is vitally important, Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.25,0:01:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is a calling. Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.26,0:01:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't have that, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.98,0:01:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you won't weather the storm - Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.81,0:01:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're not convinced. Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.15,0:01:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a stick-to-it-ness about a man Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.32,0:01:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he knows that it's because of God Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.59,0:01:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he's there. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.98,0:01:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There have been numerous times, Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.14,0:01:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,countless times when I've been able Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.29,0:01:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pray to God and say Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.65,0:01:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the midst of difficulties, Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.31,0:01:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lord, this was Your idea. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.38,0:01:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not here because I forced my way Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.61,0:01:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into this situation. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.31,0:01:38.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You brought me here Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.45,0:01:40.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was confirmed by Your men Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.67,0:01:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all along the way. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.18,0:01:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm here because You brought me here." Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.32,0:01:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's helpful. That's necessary. Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.64,0:01:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I would tell any young man that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.62,0:01:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got to be convinced of that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.41,0:01:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's any number of other motivations Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.81,0:01:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would cause someone to seek Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.51,0:02:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a pastoral ministry. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.07,0:02:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would counsel against it Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.52,0:02:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until that one right \Nthere has been settled, Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.10,0:02:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is, God wants you there. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.17,0:02:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone has a romantic notion Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.70,0:02:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what it is to stand in a pulpit Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.08,0:02:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and speak these words Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.72,0:02:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have people fawning over your sermon, Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.31,0:02:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe they're a very \Ncompassionate person Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.29,0:02:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they just want to help people, Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.35,0:02:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or any number of things. Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.25,0:02:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sooner or later, they're \Ngoing to run head on Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.49,0:02:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into some opposition. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.03,0:02:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The devil will see to it Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.23,0:02:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because every pastor is \Nlike a squirrel on a fence post. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.03,0:02:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The devil is there to \Ntake a pot shot at it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.71,0:02:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they won't last. Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.33,0:02:46.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You won't last in that office Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.31,0:02:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless you're convinced of that one thing, Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.13,0:02:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God called you Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.56,0:02:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're there for that reason. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.52,0:02:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very comforting to me Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.84,0:03:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when Bob was in the process of dying, Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.32,0:03:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Conrad Murrell came and stayed in our home Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.17,0:03:06.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were sitting there talking Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.39,0:03:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was pouring out my heart Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.16,0:03:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my fears to him. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.46,0:03:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he had a very prophetic, helpful, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.72,0:03:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insightful word that was profound. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.68,0:03:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Clint, you've got to remember Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.86,0:03:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are God's responsibility." Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.36,0:03:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was very helpful. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.66,0:03:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God is very much concerned Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.98,0:03:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about my longevity. Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.71,0:03:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He takes me seriously and my position. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.54,0:03:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm His responsibility. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.72,0:03:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's very helpful to remember. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.24,0:03:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's helpful to remember the temple of God Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.61,0:03:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the church Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.78,0:03:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to the Corinthian letter. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.73,0:03:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The temple of God - Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.43,0:03:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God takes very seriously - the church. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.51,0:03:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anyone destroys the church - Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.67,0:03:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the temple of God - Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.96,0:04:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him will God destroy. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.61,0:04:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so you can't cause problems that way Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.33,0:04:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without incurring the consequences Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.08,0:04:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the wrath of God. Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.04,0:04:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is this whole \Nidea, this whole notion, Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.57,0:04:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God has called a man. Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.88,0:04:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's put him here with this local body. Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.53,0:04:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There might be situations Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.40,0:04:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where a man finds himself \Nin places of ministry Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.39,0:04:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he's put there from \Na pragmatic viewpoint. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.43,0:04:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's a guy who's got qualifications. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.52,0:04:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's a guy who's willing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.87,0:04:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's a need and a place Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.20,0:04:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so we'll put him there Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.70,0:04:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he'll serve there. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.35,0:04:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it might last for awhile. Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.11,0:04:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There might be a season \Nwhere that's useful Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.89,0:04:47.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a man's life building him Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.41,0:04:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for future usefulness in \Nsome other capacity. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.51,0:04:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's over and against a man Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.19,0:04:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who knows God has \Ncalled me to the ministry Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.38,0:05:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He's put me in this church. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.39,0:05:03.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's rather narrow maybe, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.43,0:05:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but God has done that \Nfor me in some regard. Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.13,0:05:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have as my focus this \Nlittle church right here. Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.71,0:05:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And whatever else God might choose Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.52,0:05:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use me in whatever capacity, Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.75,0:05:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not my calling. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.85,0:05:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, David went in the Old Testament Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.86,0:05:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the battlefront to take \Nsupplies to his brothers. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.93,0:05:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The army was stationed \Nover and against the Philistines. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.90,0:05:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was that occasion when \NGoliath was coming out Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.44,0:05:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and taunting the armies of Israel. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.19,0:05:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And David's brother said to David, Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.04,0:05:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"who is back watching that little flock?" Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.76,0:05:48.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those words have stuck in my mind Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.73,0:05:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever since I read them. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.67,0:05:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, you need \Nto be singular in your focus. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.33,0:05:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God has called you to \Nthat church right there. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.56,0:05:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Focus on that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.83,0:06:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do that to the best of your ability Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.22,0:06:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and don't leave your post. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.35,0:06:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a suffering that \Nis very military-istic Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.23,0:06:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the life of a pastor. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.01,0:06:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul said to Timothy, Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.35,0:06:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Suffer hardship with me Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.13,0:06:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a good soldier of Jesus Christ." Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.56,0:06:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Soldiers, when they're trained, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.85,0:06:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the special forces - Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.77,0:06:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they put them through hardship. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.03,0:06:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There might be some that \Nmight be more courageous. Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.50,0:06:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There might be some that are better shots. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.36,0:06:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what they want is someone Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.10,0:06:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's going to stick it out in the midst Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.22,0:06:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the worst - absolute worst conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.93,0:06:41.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Suffer hardship with me as a good soldier Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.39,0:06:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.49,0:06:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so when we find ourselves Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.03,0:06:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in those situations, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.30,0:06:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether or not we leave our post Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.02,0:06:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to largely be dependent Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.20,0:07:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upon our conviction that \NGod has put us there Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.56,0:07:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that spot, in that place, Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.65,0:07:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for those people. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.85,0:07:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we're certain about that, Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.49,0:07:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we can stand our ground so to speak. 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