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Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.38,0:00:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(pensive music)\N(wind whistles)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.98,0:00:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Esteban] The way that\Nmy paintings develop
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.70,0:00:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is in a very intuitive\Napproach of what I feel,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.53,0:00:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I respond to, but also\Nsearching for who I am.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.71,0:00:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Growing up along the border
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.13,0:00:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not being connected\Nto a lot of my heritage,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.00,0:00:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have had to find it on my own.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.93,0:00:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The process of art as being\Nlike a healing gesture
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.76,0:00:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of connecting to these histories,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.06,0:01:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then also reconnecting my\Nrelationship back to the land
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.14,0:01:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to learning these histories\Nbefore we lose them to time.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.98,0:01:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(clock ticks)\N(pensive music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.79,0:01:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(wind whistles)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.58,0:01:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(water trickles)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.42,0:01:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way my process works\Nis based on the concept
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.22,0:01:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a tesseract, where you\Nhave four different layers
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.34,0:01:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or four different dimensions inside of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.26,0:01:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, I start out by dyeing\Nthe canvas with cochineal.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.69,0:01:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cochineal dye operates as\Nalmost like an astral plane
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.07,0:01:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that looks similar to the\Nway physicists map space.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.45,0:01:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These spiral forms in my\Npaintings are about solstices.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.20,0:02:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Indigenous societies had the capability
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.75,0:02:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of modeling time without\Nindustrial technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.96,0:02:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then building up the next image
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.92,0:02:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I'm thinking about\Npre-colonial histories
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.18,0:02:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what advanced structures predate 1492.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.56,0:02:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The third layer involves\Nobservational painting
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.31,0:02:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I do on site.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.65,0:02:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, that's looking pretty good.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.61,0:02:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Esteban] Heidi's been\Nmy partner for 10 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.86,0:02:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm asking for feedback,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.03,0:02:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm also giving support where I can
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.99,0:02:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Heidi's process.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.67,0:02:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fourth layer that\NI do is thinking about
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.96,0:02:54.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a post-colonial future where\Nit's optimistic and healing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.93,0:03:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These layers don't sit\Nparallel to one another
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.14,0:03:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there are multiple\Ndimensions that are existing
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.73,0:03:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alongside of all of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.65,0:03:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Painting is that device\Nthat can defy time.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.15,0:03:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(clock ticks)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.99,0:03:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want my viewer to\Nexperience is this paradox
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.66,0:03:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can go backwards in time.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.80,0:03:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(wind rushes)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.65,0:03:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the land speaks to\Nyou when you're looking at it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.36,0:04:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(cicadas chirruping)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.16,0:04:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why I continue to go back to New Mexico
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.16,0:04:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to reconnect with my past.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.66,0:04:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father's family was from New Mexico,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.42,0:04:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my mom's from San Ysidro, California,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.67,0:04:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but born in Tijuana.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.18,0:04:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't really explain\Nhow much spiritual freedom
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.47,0:04:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sense when I'm there.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.94,0:04:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go outdoor painting,\Ndoing plein-air painting,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.90,0:04:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in some ways it's about endurance.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.28,0:04:47.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go out to a specific\Nsite with a certain intention
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.83,0:04:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then nature guides you.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.79,0:04:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Time is shifting also.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.13,0:05:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only am I kind of building\Nthese multiple dimensions,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.55,0:05:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm also literally chasing after light.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.02,0:05:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(footsteps crunch)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.77,0:05:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(birds chirp)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.56,0:05:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(clock ticks)\N(gentle music)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.24,0:05:25.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Landscape painting for me, feels like
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.07,0:05:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what all of our ancestors\Nused to do in the caves.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.83,0:05:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where we all began\Nthinking about space
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.42,0:05:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not severing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.72,0:05:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colonial era painting came\Ninto the United States
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.89,0:05:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the project of showing\Nhow nature needs to be tamed
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.14,0:05:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the savages need to be converted
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.14,0:05:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and turned into men.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.69,0:05:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm trying to do with\Nmy work is deconstruct
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.90,0:06:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we're seeing.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.11,0:06:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who used to live there,\Nwho still lives there.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.24,0:06:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do I utilize the language\Nof painting to expand
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.75,0:06:15.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our vision of where we could\Nthink about space and time.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.80,0:06:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Landscape painting can\Nstart two dimensionally
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.80,0:06:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it could also expand\Nout into a whole worldview
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.97,0:06:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to treat people in more equitable ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.76,0:06:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(subway announcer speaks)\N(gentle orchestral music)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.35,0:06:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(train clacks)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.32,0:06:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(clock ticks)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.26,0:07:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's crazy how much more fencing
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.88,0:07:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they kind of put up around here
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.59,0:07:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since we last were here, Mom?\N- Oh yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.30,0:07:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We used to consider this\Na place where you could
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.81,0:07:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like, really run around
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.10,0:07:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and especially when you're kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.36,0:07:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would have never expected
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.69,0:07:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what I took as natural\Nand day-to-day, would change.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.24,0:07:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Esteban] It's weird to\Njust be here and making it
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.83,0:07:36.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an image that we've seen\Nso much in mass media.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.37,0:07:38.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What can I say about it that isn't just
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.83,0:07:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like something that's trying to define us?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.05,0:07:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think the privilege of having lived
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.67,0:07:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a long life is that you know\Nthat that is not permanent.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.68,0:07:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.93,0:07:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That at some point that\Nfence is going to go down,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.98,0:08:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I have to bring back\Na memory of this space
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.81,0:08:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without the fences because\Notherwise I go crazy.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.57,0:08:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's just really hard.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.37,0:08:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just really hard
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.20,0:08:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see the fences.\N- Yeah, (sniffs)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.54,0:08:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you for sharing that, Mom.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.21,0:08:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to express it though too,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.67,0:08:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to get past it and imagine
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.88,0:08:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something bigger than it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.38,0:08:35.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(gentle music)\N(clock ticks)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.98,0:08:44.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We never knew if they\Nwere coming for coffee.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.15,0:08:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(speaks in Spanish)\N- Or spending the night.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.69,0:08:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Spending the night or-\N- Some of the core themes
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.49,0:08:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my work are about freedom.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.82,0:08:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(pensive music)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.91,0:09:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Freedom to really express yourself
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.12,0:09:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your relationship to\Nspace and the environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.75,0:09:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Justice, how can you\Ndo justice to the past?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.84,0:09:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think, also joy.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.01,0:09:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(gentle piano music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.07,0:09:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't start speaking till I was five
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.62,0:09:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so painting was that way\Nfor me to communicate
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.16,0:09:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with other people.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.16,0:09:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't have to explain myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.59,0:09:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Painting has always been\Nthat method to go backwards
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.38,0:09:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in time into that mode\Nof the five-year-old,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.51,0:09:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I'm just feeling.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.64,0:10:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no words for it.