[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.76,0:00:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What has the War on Drugs \Ndone to the world? Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.98,0:00:07.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at the murder and mayhem in Mexico, Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.15,0:00:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Central America, so many \Nother parts of the planet, Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.100,0:00:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the global black market estimated Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.80,0:00:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at 300 billion dollars a year, Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.38,0:00:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prisons packed in the \NUnited States and elsewhere, Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.82,0:00:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police and military drawn \Ninto an unwinnable war Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.50,0:00:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that violates basic rights, \Nand ordinary citizens Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.76,0:00:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just hope they don't get \Ncaught in the crossfire, Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.74,0:00:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and meanwhile, more people using Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.10,0:00:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more drugs than ever. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.36,0:00:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's my country's history \Nwith alcohol prohibition Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.66,0:00:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Al Capone, times 50. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.78,0:00:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is why it's \Nparticularly galling to me Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.34,0:00:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an American that we've \Nbeen the driving force Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.46,0:00:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,behind this global drug war. Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.50,0:00:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ask why so many countries criminalize Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.50,0:00:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drugs they'd never heard of, Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.29,0:00:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why the U.N. drug treaties emphasize Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.32,0:00:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criminalization over health, Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.54,0:00:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even why most of the money worldwide Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.88,0:00:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for dealing with drug abuse goes not Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.55,0:01:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to helping agencies but those that punish, Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.32,0:01:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you'll find the good old U.S. of A. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.64,0:01:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did we do this? Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.82,0:01:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people, especially in Latin America, Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.11,0:01:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think it's not really about drugs. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.85,0:01:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a subterfuge for advancing Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.01,0:01:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the realpolitik interests of the U.S. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.17,0:01:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But by and large, that's not it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.53,0:01:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't want gangsters and guerrillas Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.44,0:01:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,funded with illegal drug money Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.51,0:01:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terrorizing and taking over other nations. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.63,0:01:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, the fact is, America really is crazy Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.20,0:01:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to drugs. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.04,0:01:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, don't forget, we're \Nthe ones who thought Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.20,0:01:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we could prohibit alcohol. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.87,0:01:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So think about our global drug war Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.15,0:01:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not as any sort of rational policy, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.88,0:01:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as the international projection Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.63,0:01:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a domestic psychosis. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.11,0:01:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.16,0:01:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the good news. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.83,0:01:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now it's the Russians leading\Nthe Drug War and not us. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.12,0:02:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most politicians in my country Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.70,0:02:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to roll back the Drug War now, Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.02,0:02:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put fewer people behind bars, not more, Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.83,0:02:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm proud to say as an American Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.34,0:02:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we now lead the world Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.93,0:02:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in reforming marijuana policies. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.17,0:02:13.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's now legal for medical purposes Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.11,0:02:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in almost half our 50 states, Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.91,0:02:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,millions of people can \Npurchase their marijuana, Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.27,0:02:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their medicine, in government-\Nlicensed dispensaries, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.19,0:02:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and over half my fellow \Ncitizens now say it's time Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.27,0:02:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to legally regulate and tax marijuana Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.64,0:02:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more or less like alcohol. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.32,0:02:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what Colorado and \NWashington are doing, Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.29,0:02:33.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Uruguay, and others \Nare sure to follow. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.67,0:02:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's what I do: Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.16,0:02:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work to end the Drug War. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.97,0:02:42.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it all started growing up Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.63,0:02:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a fairly religious, moral family, Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.20,0:02:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eldest son of a rabbi, Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.24,0:02:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going off to university where I Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.41,0:02:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smoked some marijuana Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.76,0:02:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I liked it. (Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.98,0:02:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I liked drinking too, but it was obvious Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.46,0:02:59.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that alcohol was really the\Nmore dangerous of the two, Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.93,0:03:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but my friends and I could get busted Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.62,0:03:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for smoking a joint. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.19,0:03:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, that hypocrisy kept bugging me, Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.75,0:03:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I wrote my Ph.D dissertation\Non international drug control. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.69,0:03:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talked my way into the State Department. Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.18,0:03:12.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a security clearance. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.41,0:03:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I interviewed hundreds of DEA\Nand other law enforcement agents Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.37,0:03:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all around Europe and the Americas, Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.53,0:03:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'd ask them, Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.76,0:03:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What do you think the answer is?" Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.38,0:03:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, in Latin America, they'd say to me, Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.16,0:03:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You can't really cut off the supply. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.98,0:03:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer lies back in the U.S., Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.53,0:03:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in cutting off the demand." Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.34,0:03:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then I go back home and I talk to people Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.85,0:03:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved in anti-drug efforts there, and they'd say, Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.45,0:03:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You know, Ethan, you can't \Nreally cut off the demand. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.68,0:03:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer lies over there.\NYou've got to cut off the supply." Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.63,0:03:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I'd go and talk \Nto the guys in customs Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.24,0:03:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to stop drugs at the borders, Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.60,0:03:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'd say, "You're \Nnot going to stop it here. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.82,0:03:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer lies over there, Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.79,0:03:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in cutting off supply and demand." Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.78,0:03:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it hit me: Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.41,0:03:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody involved in this Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.69,0:04:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought the answer lay in that area Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.13,0:04:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about which they knew the least. Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.14,0:04:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's when I started \Nreading everything I could Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.64,0:04:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about psychoactive drugs: \Nthe history, the science, Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.52,0:04:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the politics, all of it, Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.63,0:04:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the more one read, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.95,0:04:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more it hit you how a thoughtful, Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.49,0:04:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enlightened, intelligent \Napproach took you over here, Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.85,0:04:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas the politics and laws of my country Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.36,0:04:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were taking you over here. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.40,0:04:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that disparity struck me as this incredible Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.19,0:04:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellectual and moral puzzle. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.38,0:04:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's probably never been Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.41,0:04:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a drug-free society. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.02,0:04:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Virtually every society Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.77,0:04:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has ingested psychoactive substances Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.17,0:04:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to deal with pain, increase \Nour energy, socialize, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.79,0:04:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even commune with God. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.82,0:04:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our desire to alter our consciousness Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.51,0:04:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may be as fundamental as our desires Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.94,0:04:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for food, companionship and sex. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.85,0:04:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So our true challenge Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.99,0:05:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to learn how to live with drugs Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.87,0:05:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they cause the least possible harm Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.63,0:05:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in some cases the \Ngreatest possible benefit. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.84,0:05:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll tell you something else I learned, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.91,0:05:14.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the reason some drugs \Nare legal and others not Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.100,0:05:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has almost nothing to do \Nwith science or health Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.96,0:05:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the relative risk of drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.79,0:05:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and almost everything to do with who uses Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.18,0:05:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who is perceived \Nto use particular drugs. Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.31,0:05:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the late 19th century, Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.38,0:05:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when most of the drugs that\Nare now illegal were legal, Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.72,0:05:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the principal consumers \Nof opiates in my country Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.44,0:05:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and others were middle-aged white women, Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.24,0:05:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using them to alleviate aches and pains Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.60,0:05:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when few other analgesics were available. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.32,0:05:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And nobody thought about \Ncriminalizing it back then Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.48,0:05:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because nobody wanted to \Nput Grandma behind bars. Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.48,0:05:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when hundreds of thousands of Chinese Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.94,0:05:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started showing up in my country, Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.72,0:05:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working hard on the railroads and the mines Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.32,0:05:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then kicking back in the evening Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.80,0:05:57.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like they had in the old country Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.51,0:06:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a few puffs on that opium pipe, Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.16,0:06:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's when you saw the \Nfirst drug prohibition laws Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.48,0:06:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in California and Nevada, Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.28,0:06:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,driven by racist fears of Chinese Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.16,0:06:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transforming white women Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.99,0:06:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into opium-addicted sex slaves. Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.38,0:06:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first cocaine prohibition \Nlaws, similarly prompted Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.21,0:06:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by racist fears of black men \Nsniffing that white powder Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.98,0:06:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and forgetting their proper place Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.86,0:06:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Southern society. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.81,0:06:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first marijuana prohibition laws, Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.80,0:06:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all about fears of Mexican migrants Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.87,0:06:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the West and the Southwest. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.64,0:06:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what was true in my country, Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.38,0:06:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is true in so many others as well, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.88,0:06:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with both the origins of these laws Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.12,0:06:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their implementation. Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.54,0:06:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Put it this way, Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.16,0:06:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I exaggerate only slightly: Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.84,0:06:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the principal smokers of cocaine Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.92,0:06:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were affluent older white men Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.92,0:06:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the principal consumers of Viagra Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.91,0:06:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were poor young black men, Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.80,0:06:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then smokable cocaine would be easy to\Nget with a prescription from your doctor Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.91,0:07:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and selling Viagra would get you \Nfive to 10 years behind bars. Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.20,0:07:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.98,0:07:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to be a professor teaching about this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.84,0:07:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I'm an activist, a human rights activist, Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.49,0:07:15.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what drives me is my shame Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.25,0:07:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at living in an otherwise great nation Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.43,0:07:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has less than five percent\Nof the world's population Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.21,0:07:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but almost 25 percent of the\Nworld's incarcerated population. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.84,0:07:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the people I meet \Nwho have lost someone Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.24,0:07:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they love to drug-related \Nviolence or prison Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.80,0:07:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or overdose or AIDS Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.26,0:07:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because our drug policies emphasize Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.24,0:07:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criminalization over health. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.26,0:07:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's good people who have lost their jobs, Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.49,0:07:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their homes, their freedom, \Neven their children Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.12,0:07:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the state, not because they hurt anyone Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.59,0:07:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but solely because they chose to use one drug Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.81,0:07:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of another. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.83,0:07:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So is legalization the answer? Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.18,0:07:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On that, I'm torn: Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.21,0:08:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three days a week I think yes,\Nthree days a week I think no, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.40,0:08:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on Sundays I'm agnostic. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.62,0:08:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But since today is Tuesday, Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.14,0:08:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me just say that legally \Nregulating and taxing Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.84,0:08:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of the drugs that \Nare now criminalized Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.26,0:08:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would radically reduce \Nthe crime, violence, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.64,0:08:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,corruption and black markets, Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.37,0:08:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the problems of adulterated\Nand unregulated drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.40,0:08:21.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and improve public safety, Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.35,0:08:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and allow taxpayer resources to be developed Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.56,0:08:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to more useful purposes. Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.77,0:08:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, look, the markets \Nin marijuana, cocaine, Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.55,0:08:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heroin and methamphetamine Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.56,0:08:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are global commodities markets Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.13,0:08:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like the global markets \Nin alcohol, tobacco, Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.32,0:08:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coffee, sugar, and so many other things. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.20,0:08:42.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where there is a demand, Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.60,0:08:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be a supply. Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.12,0:08:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Knock out one source and another Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.28,0:08:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inevitably emerges. Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.99,0:08:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People tend to think of prohibition Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.37,0:08:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the ultimate form of regulation Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.87,0:08:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when in fact it represents \Nthe abdication of regulation Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.89,0:09:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with criminals filling the void. Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.90,0:09:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is why putting criminal laws and police Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.16,0:09:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,front and center in trying to control Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.38,0:09:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a dynamic global commodities market Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.49,0:09:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a recipe for disaster. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.36,0:09:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what we really need to do Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.53,0:09:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to bring the underground drug markets Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.90,0:09:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as much as possible aboveground Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.81,0:09:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and regulate them as intelligently as we can Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.88,0:09:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to minimize both the harms of drugs Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.67,0:09:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the harms of prohibitionist policies. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.16,0:09:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, with marijuana, that obviously means Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.73,0:09:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legally regulating and taxing it like alcohol. Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.39,0:09:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The benefits of doing so are\Nenormous, the risks minimal. Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.72,0:09:43.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will more people use marijuana? Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.43,0:09:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe, but it's not going to be young people, Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.40,0:09:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's not going to be legalized for them, Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.41,0:09:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quite frankly, they already have Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.22,0:09:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best access to marijuana. Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.25,0:09:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right? I think it's going to be older people. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.40,0:09:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's going to be people in their 40s and 60s Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.56,0:10:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 80s who find they prefer a little marijuana Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.21,0:10:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that drink in the evening or the sleeping pill Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.50,0:10:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that it helps with their arthritis or diabetes Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.14,0:10:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe helps spice up a long-term marriage. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.33,0:10:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that just might be a net public health benefit. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.48,0:10:18.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As for the other drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.85,0:10:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at Portugal, where nobody goes to jail Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.47,0:10:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for possessing drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.23,0:10:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the government's made a serious commitment Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.60,0:10:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to treating addiction as a health issue. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.81,0:10:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at Switzerland, Germany, the Netherlands, Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.71,0:10:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Denmark, England, where people who have Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.66,0:10:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been addicted to heroin for many years Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.56,0:10:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and repeatedly tried to quit and failed Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.86,0:10:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can get pharmaceutical heroin and helping services Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.72,0:10:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in medical clinics, and the results are in: Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.16,0:10:44.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,illegal drug abuse and disease Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.23,0:10:48.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and overdoses and crime and arrests all go down, Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.37,0:10:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health and well being improve, Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.52,0:10:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taxpayers benefit, Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.26,0:10:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and many drug users even\Nput their addictions behind them. Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.40,0:10:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at New Zealand, which recently enacted a law Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.21,0:11:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowing certain recreational drugs to be sold legally Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.14,0:11:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provided their safety had been established. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.84,0:11:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look here in Brazil, and some other countries, Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.54,0:11:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where remarkable psychoactive substance, Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.60,0:11:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ayahuasca, can be legally bought and consumed Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.83,0:11:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provided it's done so within a religious context. Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.96,0:11:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look in Bolivia and Peru, Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.96,0:11:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where all sorts of products made from the coca leaf, Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.75,0:11:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the source of cocaine, Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.65,0:11:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are sold legally over the counter Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.27,0:11:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with no apparent harm to people's public health. Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.40,0:11:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, don't forget, Coca-Cola\Nhad cocaine in it until 1900, Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.44,0:11:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so far as we know was no more addictive Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.41,0:11:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than Coca-Cola is today. Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.46,0:11:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Conversely, think about cigarettes: Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.54,0:11:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing can both hook you and kill you like cigarettes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.52,0:11:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When researchers ask heroin addicts Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.59,0:11:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's the toughest drug to quit, most say cigarettes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.79,0:11:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet in my country and many others, Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.17,0:11:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half of all the people who were ever addicted Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.71,0:11:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cigarettes have quit Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.64,0:12:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without anyone being arrested or put in jail Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.65,0:12:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or sent to a "treatment program" Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.91,0:12:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a prosecutor or a judge. Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.64,0:12:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did it were higher taxes Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.94,0:12:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and time and place restrictions on sale and use Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.48,0:12:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and effective anti-smoking campaigns. Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.55,0:12:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, could we reduce smoking even more Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.49,0:12:24.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by making it totally illegal? Probably. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.83,0:12:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just imagine the drug war nightmare Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.44,0:12:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would result. Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.48,0:12:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the challenges we face today Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.76,0:12:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are twofold. Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.63,0:12:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first is the policy challenge Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.64,0:12:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of designing and implementing alternatives Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.32,0:12:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ineffective prohibitionist policies, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.74,0:12:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even as we need to get better at regulating Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.16,0:12:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and living with the drugs that are now legal. Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.42,0:12:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the second challenge is tougher, Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.19,0:12:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's about us. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.80,0:13:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The obstacles to reform lie not just out there Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.29,0:13:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the power of the prison industrial complex Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.45,0:13:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or other vested interests that want to keep things Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.65,0:13:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way they are, Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.08,0:13:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but within each and every one of us. Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.92,0:13:15.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's our fears and our lack of knowledge Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.97,0:13:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and imagination that stands in the way of real reform. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.67,0:13:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And ultimately, I think that boils down to the kids, Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.24,0:13:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to every parent's desire\Nto put our baby in a bubble, Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.98,0:13:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the fear that somehow\Ndrugs will pierce that bubble Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.32,0:13:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and put our young ones at risk. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.24,0:13:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, sometimes it seems like the entire Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.31,0:13:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,War on Drugs gets justified as one great big Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.97,0:13:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,child protection act, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.22,0:13:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which any young person can tell you it's not. Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.82,0:13:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here's what I say to teenagers. Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.93,0:13:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, don't do drugs. Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.62,0:13:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Second, don't do drugs. Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.40,0:14:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Third, if you do do drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.82,0:14:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's some things I want you to know, Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.37,0:14:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because my bottom line as your parent is, Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.41,0:14:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come home safely at the end of the night Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.39,0:14:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and grow up and lead a healthy and good adulthood. Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.92,0:14:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's my drug education mantra: safety first. Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.54,0:14:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is what I've dedicated my life to, Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.19,0:14:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to building an organization and a movement Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.70,0:14:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people who believe we need to turn our backs Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.56,0:14:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the failed prohibitions of the past Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.61,0:14:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and embrace new drug policies grounded in science, Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.30,0:14:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compassion, health, and human rights, Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.74,0:14:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people who come from\Nacross the political spectrum Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.88,0:14:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and every other spectrum as well, Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.86,0:14:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people who love our drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.60,0:14:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who hate drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.94,0:14:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people who don't give a damn about drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.25,0:14:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but every one of us believes that this War on Drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.68,0:14:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this backward, heartless, disastrous War on Drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.93,0:14:59.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has got to end. Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.03,0:15:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.87,0:15:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.04,0:15:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.72,0:15:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chris Anderson: Ethan, Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.94,0:15:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,congrats, quite the reaction. Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.18,0:15:25.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a powerful talk. Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.93,0:15:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not quite a complete standing O, though, Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.23,0:15:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm guessing that some people here Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.92,0:15:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe a few watching online, Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.19,0:15:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe someone knows a teenager or a friend Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.29,0:15:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whatever who got sick, Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.50,0:15:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe died from some drug overdose. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.50,0:15:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sure you've had these\Npeople approach you before. Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.39,0:15:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you say to them? Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.56,0:15:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ethan Nadelmann: Chris, the most\Namazing thing that's happened of late Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.74,0:15:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that I've met a growing number of people Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.98,0:15:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have actually lost a sibling or a child Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.56,0:15:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a drug overdose, Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.18,0:15:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 10 years ago, those people just wanted to say, Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.16,0:15:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let's line up all the drug dealers and shoot them Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.14,0:16:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that will solve it." Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.48,0:16:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what they've come to understand Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.78,0:16:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the Drug War did nothing to protect their kids. Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.66,0:16:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anything, it made it more likely Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.11,0:16:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that those kids were put at risk. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.21,0:16:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so they're now becoming part of this Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.82,0:16:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drug policy reform movement. Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.70,0:16:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's other people who have kids, Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.38,0:16:16.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one's addicted to alcohol, the other\None's addicted to cocaine or heroin, Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.85,0:16:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they ask themselves the question: Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.28,0:16:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Why does this kid get to take one step at a time Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.60,0:16:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to get better Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.89,0:16:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that one's got to deal with jail Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.45,0:16:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and police and criminals all the time?" Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.48,0:16:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So everybody's understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.95,0:16:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Drug War's not protecting anybody. Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.67,0:16:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Certainly in the U.S., you've got political gridlock Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.75,0:16:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on most issues. Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.15,0:16:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there any realistic chance of anything Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.88,0:16:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually shifting on this issue in the next five years? Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.23,0:16:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EN: It's quite remarkable. I'm getting all these calls Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.24,0:16:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from journalists now who are saying to me, Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.13,0:16:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ethan, it seems like the only two issues Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.13,0:16:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advancing politically in America right now Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.42,0:16:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are marijuana law reform and gay marriage. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.31,0:16:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are you doing right?" Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.89,0:16:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you're looking at bipartisanship breaking out Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.15,0:16:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with actually Republicans in the Congress Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.77,0:16:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and State Legislatures allowing bills to be enacted Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.84,0:17:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with majority Democratic support, Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.80,0:17:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we've gone from being sort of the third rail, Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.32,0:17:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most fearful issue of American politics, Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.41,0:17:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to becoming one of the most successful. Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.16,0:17:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Ethan, thanks so much.\NEN: Chris, thanks so much. Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.10,0:17:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Thank you.\NEN: Thank you. (Applause)