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(Bell)

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(Bell)

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(French) What is it like[br]on the other shore?

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Do you still think?

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Do you still have suffering?

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(Translator) Dear Thây,[br]when you have arrived on the other shore,

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do you still think?[br]Do you still suffer?

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Yes!

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Even when you arrive at the other shore,[br]you continue to suffer,

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but you suffer differently.

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There is a way to suffer[br]that can help you grow,

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that can help you heal,[br]that can help you help other people.

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(Vietnamese)

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(Translator) Can we have[br]a translator for our friend?

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You might think that[br]the Buddha Shakyamuni, our teacher,

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is a person who is only happy,[br]that he does not suffer.

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But that is not true.

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How can you do that[br]when so many people around you suffer?

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When you are aware of[br]the suffering going on in the world,

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you want to do something[br]in order for them to suffer less.

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You are in good communication[br]with other living beings

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and that is why you co-suffer with them.

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You feel the suffering in them and in you.

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But because you have transformed,[br]you have a lot of compassion and wisdom.

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that is why you are not[br]a victim of that suffering.

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You know how to[br]make good use of the suffering

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in order to create[br]healing and transformation.

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There are those of us who know[br]how not to be victim of suffering,

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but who know how to make[br]good use of the suffering

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in order to heal,

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to make joy and happiness.

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It is like you are a gardener.

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The garden produces[br]many beautiful flowers and vegetables.

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But as a garden it also[br]produces other things,

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that are not like flowers and vegetables.

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It produces both flowers and garbage.

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But as an organic gardener,[br]you do not throw away the garbage.

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You keep it and make good use of it[br]in order to nourish the flowers.

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So if you want to grow a lotus flower,[br]you need the mud.

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The mud is necessary to make a lotus.

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The same thing is true[br]with suffering and happiness.

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You need some suffering[br]in order to make happiness.

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If you are a good gardener[br]you are not a victim of the garbage.

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You are the boss.

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You know how to make good use[br]of the garbage to make compost.

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So the Buddha is someone like that.

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He is a gardener.

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He knows how to[br]make good use of the garbage,

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of suffering, anger, fear, despair,

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in order to transform them[br]into something else.

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It is like the right and the left.

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The left has to lean on the right[br]in order to manifest.

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So suffering and happiness[br]are two aspects of reality.

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If suffering does not exist,[br]happiness does not exist either.

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On the other shore there is suffering,[br]but you are not a victim of it.

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You know how to make good use of it.

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My idea of the Kingdom of God is the same.

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The Kingdom of God is not a place[br]where there is no suffering.

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It is a place where people know[br]how to make good use of suffering

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in order to create[br]understanding and compassion.

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Because without suffering

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you cannot bring about[br]understanding and compassion,

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which are the ground of happiness.

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It is very clear.[br]That is the view of interbeing.

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Right View.

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Our idea that the Kingdom of God[br]is a place where there is no suffering,

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there is only happiness,

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according to the insight of interbeing[br]is a wrong view.

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Therefore,

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if our sangha knows[br]how to make good use of suffering

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and transform it into happiness

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we are in the Kingdom of God right here.

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And we have the power to build[br]the Kingdom of God by our practice.

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To me, the Kingdom is now or never.

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(Bell)

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(Bell)