WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.527 [MUSIC] 00:00:08.527 --> 00:00:10.011 Hi, there language learning aficionados. 00:00:10.011 --> 00:00:12.591 This is Keith Swayne at Five Arrows again. 00:00:12.591 --> 00:00:17.573 I've been talking in my previous videos about the difference 00:00:17.573 --> 00:00:23.048 between proficiency and achievement or proficiency and fluency. 00:00:23.048 --> 00:00:28.239 Today, I wanna talk about different levels of proficiency and what those look like. 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:32.032 When you think of yourself speaking another language, 00:00:32.032 --> 00:00:36.792 you'll find some of these descriptions are helpful to peg the level at 00:00:36.792 --> 00:00:40.759 which you are able to perform certain tasks in a language. 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:45.996 When people are learning languages, they always move through 00:00:45.996 --> 00:00:51.350 a particular series of levels of skill and this is very helpful. 00:00:51.350 --> 00:00:53.212 When I have people joining our classes, 00:00:53.212 --> 00:00:56.956 I asked them to take a look at a chart on a website which I'm gonna be referring to. 00:00:56.956 --> 00:01:01.457 You'll see my eyes looking over on other parts of my computer screen here as I look 00:01:01.457 --> 00:01:03.121 at some of the descriptions. 00:01:03.121 --> 00:01:08.754 But I ask students to take a look and see what describes them the best. 00:01:08.754 --> 00:01:11.881 With a chart like the one that's on my website, 00:01:11.881 --> 00:01:15.723 you're able to figure out exactly what level you're at. 00:01:15.723 --> 00:01:18.563 It also helps you figure out what you need to do or 00:01:18.563 --> 00:01:22.910 what you need to be able to do in order to speak at a new proficiency level. 00:01:22.910 --> 00:01:25.317 So if you're a beginner in Polish, 00:01:25.317 --> 00:01:30.064 what would it look like if you were an intermediate speaker of Polish? 00:01:30.064 --> 00:01:33.236 And what should you be doing in order to reach that next level? 00:01:33.236 --> 00:01:36.831 It hardly matters what you study or what kind of a program you use. 00:01:36.831 --> 00:01:40.660 You will progress in the same order of development. 00:01:40.660 --> 00:01:43.264 So let's take a look at a few of these. 00:01:43.264 --> 00:01:48.005 And again, as I said, I'm referring to something else on my screen. 00:01:48.005 --> 00:01:52.380 First, let me talk about the very first level of proficiency and 00:01:52.380 --> 00:01:57.337 this is describing something between absolute beginners and a novice. 00:01:57.337 --> 00:02:01.881 There's various levels of novice, but an absolute beginner is a person who doesn't 00:02:01.881 --> 00:02:05.804 really have any ability at all in their target language and that's fine. 00:02:05.804 --> 00:02:09.521 That's the starting point for everyone at some point including in English. 00:02:09.521 --> 00:02:14.797 That's where you're at, but a person who studies a new 00:02:14.797 --> 00:02:20.305 language will soon move to a novice level of proficiency. 00:02:20.305 --> 00:02:24.880 And a high novice level speaker of a new language can use maybe 50 or 00:02:24.880 --> 00:02:30.513 100 words in their new language, they're able to do some really basic things. 00:02:30.513 --> 00:02:35.511 They're able to survive in the most predictable situations 00:02:35.511 --> 00:02:38.747 by using rehearsed words and phrases. 00:02:38.747 --> 00:02:41.498 There can't be any surprises for a novice. 00:02:41.498 --> 00:02:45.678 And if there are any surprises, they are quickly lost. 00:02:45.678 --> 00:02:50.375 It doesn't take very long to move from the novice level to the intermediate level. 00:02:50.375 --> 00:02:53.822 And an intermediate student of a new language looks very 00:02:53.822 --> 00:02:55.443 different from a novice. 00:02:55.443 --> 00:02:59.808 An intermediate student can start a conversation and end one, 00:02:59.808 --> 00:03:05.258 can order food from a menu, can tell time and the days of the week and the dates. 00:03:05.258 --> 00:03:10.407 An intermediate student is able to make purchases in their target language. 00:03:10.407 --> 00:03:14.026 Maybe get directions on foot or in a vehicle, can introduce themselves and 00:03:14.026 --> 00:03:18.290 get some personal information about the person they're speaking with. 00:03:18.290 --> 00:03:22.986 And they are able to distinguish between formal and informal address if 00:03:22.986 --> 00:03:27.612 you're speaking Spanish or French, or Portuguese, or something. 00:03:27.612 --> 00:03:30.355 You'll know there's a difference between the way that you speak to somebody that 00:03:30.355 --> 00:03:31.679 you know well and somebody you don't. 00:03:31.679 --> 00:03:35.888 They're able to maintain very simple face to face 00:03:35.888 --> 00:03:40.502 conversations with lots of mistakes, that's fine. 00:03:40.502 --> 00:03:42.988 But now, they're beginning to function this language. 00:03:42.988 --> 00:03:45.281 That is an intermediate student. 00:03:45.281 --> 00:03:50.828 But again, they're looking at predictable uses of the language. 00:03:50.828 --> 00:03:55.356 What you'll find is that the time that it takes you to move from a novice to 00:03:55.356 --> 00:03:59.826 an intermediate is doubled when you go from intermediate to advanced. 00:03:59.826 --> 00:04:03.806 And when you move from advanced to advanced plus or to superior or 00:04:03.806 --> 00:04:08.447 to distinguished levels of proficiency, each level takes twice as long or 00:04:08.447 --> 00:04:10.375 more than the previous level. 00:04:10.375 --> 00:04:11.632 So that's helpful. 00:04:11.632 --> 00:04:16.650 So sometimes you'll say, I feel like I'm at a plateau in my target language. 00:04:16.650 --> 00:04:17.961 That's completely normal. 00:04:17.961 --> 00:04:20.496 It just takes longer to get to the next level of proficiency. 00:04:20.496 --> 00:04:22.515 And keep going, you're gonna do fine. 00:04:22.515 --> 00:04:27.267 It's impossible to keep working on your languages and not become bilingual if 00:04:27.267 --> 00:04:32.172 you're just following a few basic rules, and that's another video to come up. 00:04:32.172 --> 00:04:34.871 Let's talk about advanced levels of proficiency. 00:04:34.871 --> 00:04:39.819 An advanced student, this is not a perfect speaker of the language. 00:04:39.819 --> 00:04:43.694 And sometimes when people are calling me about advanced Spanish classes or 00:04:43.694 --> 00:04:46.953 French classes, they'll say I don't know if I'm advanced, 00:04:46.953 --> 00:04:49.673 because they're freaked out by the term advanced. 00:04:49.673 --> 00:04:51.581 Advanced doesn't mean perfect. 00:04:51.581 --> 00:04:56.298 Advanced means someone who has a pretty good idea of how the language works. 00:04:56.298 --> 00:05:00.073 If you are an advanced student, you have probably worked through some kind of 00:05:00.073 --> 00:05:03.152 a textbook and you know the basic structures of your language, 00:05:03.152 --> 00:05:05.676 does it have genders like masculine and feminine. 00:05:05.676 --> 00:05:06.848 How did the verbs work? 00:05:06.848 --> 00:05:09.045 What's roughly the word order? 00:05:09.045 --> 00:05:11.871 Are there any weird sounds in this language? 00:05:11.871 --> 00:05:15.803 You got a picture, it doesn't mean that you've mastered everything or 00:05:15.803 --> 00:05:18.187 even that all the things that you studied and 00:05:18.187 --> 00:05:21.293 maybe tried to memorize that you can use them perfectly. 00:05:21.293 --> 00:05:25.766 That's a different thing, but advanced means you've got a handle on it. 00:05:25.766 --> 00:05:27.884 Your pronunciation is always intelligible. 00:05:27.884 --> 00:05:28.643 It's not perfect. 00:05:28.643 --> 00:05:32.872 You might be easily recognized as a native speaker of something else. 00:05:32.872 --> 00:05:38.017 It means that you could exchange a basic message over the phone. 00:05:38.017 --> 00:05:39.465 Generally speaking, 00:05:39.465 --> 00:05:44.502 you can understand maybe 80% of what's going on in a simple conversation. 00:05:44.502 --> 00:05:48.249 And the people who are speaking with you can understand 80% of what you're saying, 00:05:48.249 --> 00:05:51.040 but there's still mistakes and there's still difficulties. 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:51.909 There's still challenges. 00:05:51.909 --> 00:05:59.570 The communication works when you're at advanced level. 00:05:59.570 --> 00:06:03.863 So when you're at an intermediate level, you can survive. 00:06:03.863 --> 00:06:07.513 This is what we mean when we say things like I can get by in. 00:06:07.513 --> 00:06:10.349 I can get by in Greek. 00:06:10.349 --> 00:06:12.618 It means I can survive. 00:06:12.618 --> 00:06:15.192 I could handle basic situations. 00:06:15.192 --> 00:06:19.214 I can combine the words and phrases that I've learned before to get my way around, 00:06:19.214 --> 00:06:22.611 and it's far from perfect, and sometimes it's really confusing. 00:06:22.611 --> 00:06:23.754 That's intermediate. 00:06:23.754 --> 00:06:27.242 Advanced means I can have a conversation and 00:06:27.242 --> 00:06:31.019 I might not pass myself off as a native speaker. 00:06:31.019 --> 00:06:36.568 In fact, I can't quite at that level, but I don't need a predictable situation. 00:06:36.568 --> 00:06:41.276 If I run into somebody who speaks my target language, we can talk for 00:06:41.276 --> 00:06:44.013 a half an hour in connected discourse. 00:06:44.013 --> 00:06:48.002 Meaning, sentence after sentence without large pauses and hesitation. 00:06:48.002 --> 00:06:51.800 And sure, you stop and you look for a word and you mix up your word order and you say 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.567 some things that aren't quite right and maybe make an embarrassing mistake. 00:06:55.567 --> 00:07:00.225 That's still at an advanced level, but getting beyond an advanced level 00:07:00.225 --> 00:07:04.355 means that you're able to perhaps work in your target language, 00:07:04.355 --> 00:07:07.825 that you don't avoid certain features of a language. 00:07:07.825 --> 00:07:11.956 I know when I was learning Spanish, one of the things that I did early on is I would 00:07:11.956 --> 00:07:14.005 talk in the present tense all the time. 00:07:14.005 --> 00:07:16.056 Everything was as if it's happening now and 00:07:16.056 --> 00:07:19.167 then I'd add in some words like yesterday, I'm going downtown. 00:07:19.167 --> 00:07:22.092 Two years ago, I am talking with my friends and I'm doing this and that. 00:07:22.092 --> 00:07:26.958 So I was avoiding certain structures and I know that a lot of my advanced students in 00:07:26.958 --> 00:07:31.769 Spanish will avoid the subjunctive, because it's so different from English. 00:07:31.769 --> 00:07:34.685 When you get to a superior level in your target language, 00:07:34.685 --> 00:07:37.497 then you don't avoid certain grammatical features. 00:07:37.497 --> 00:07:42.174 Another thing that differs between advanced and superior. 00:07:42.174 --> 00:07:44.786 Sometimes even when you're an advanced level in language, 00:07:44.786 --> 00:07:46.331 I know that this has happened to me. 00:07:46.331 --> 00:07:49.759 You start a sentence and you get halfway through it and you think, no, 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:51.236 I can't finish this sentence. 00:07:51.236 --> 00:07:54.803 No matter what I do, I don't know how I'm gonna find a way around this. 00:07:54.803 --> 00:07:59.531 At a superior level, you can finish any sentence you start. 00:07:59.531 --> 00:08:03.500 Sometimes in an advanced level, you can't finish it in anyway that you thought of. 00:08:03.500 --> 00:08:07.377 And you have to step back and say, okay, how will I say this in some other way? 00:08:07.377 --> 00:08:08.646 Can I paraphrase this? 00:08:08.646 --> 00:08:11.096 Can I find some other way around? 00:08:11.096 --> 00:08:14.779 Can I draw a picture on a napkin to get the job done? 00:08:14.779 --> 00:08:16.931 That's called circumlocution. 00:08:16.931 --> 00:08:20.466 Talking my way around what I was trying to say directly, but 00:08:20.466 --> 00:08:23.308 a superior student can complete any sentence. 00:08:23.308 --> 00:08:25.792 They can participate in a conversation between native speakers. 00:08:25.792 --> 00:08:28.288 Sometimes when we're speaking with native speakers, 00:08:28.288 --> 00:08:29.886 they adjust the way that they talk. 00:08:29.886 --> 00:08:33.765 Because they recognize that we're not really all the way there yet and 00:08:33.765 --> 00:08:35.933 they'll slow it down a little bit, and 00:08:35.933 --> 00:08:39.038 keep their word choices a little bit simple or simpler. 00:08:39.038 --> 00:08:41.217 But when you are at a superior level, 00:08:41.217 --> 00:08:45.377 the people you're talking with don't adjust their language at all. 00:08:45.377 --> 00:08:49.590 Some people who speak your target language don't know how to talk to foreigners and 00:08:49.590 --> 00:08:53.621 that makes it really difficult for you if you're at an intermediate level, and 00:08:53.621 --> 00:08:56.116 sometimes even if you're in an advanced level. 00:08:56.116 --> 00:08:58.896 But at a superior level, you might not catch everything. 00:08:58.896 --> 00:09:01.956 But you're okay talking with native speakers in the way that 00:09:01.956 --> 00:09:02.983 they usually talk. 00:09:02.983 --> 00:09:05.294 You're able to understand the information over the phone. 00:09:05.294 --> 00:09:09.171 You're able to take notes when you're listening to somebody talking 00:09:09.171 --> 00:09:10.031 the language. 00:09:10.031 --> 00:09:14.245 You're able to communicate clearly with a group of people, 00:09:14.245 --> 00:09:16.567 even on professional subjects. 00:09:16.567 --> 00:09:19.701 There's some technical subjects other than just sort of the day to day stuff. 00:09:19.701 --> 00:09:25.212 You're able to get through common blunders and mistakes. 00:09:25.212 --> 00:09:26.423 That's super helpful. 00:09:26.423 --> 00:09:31.268 Learning how to handle the problem if you can't finish a sentence or 00:09:31.268 --> 00:09:34.243 if you don't know how to say something and 00:09:34.243 --> 00:09:37.984 you've really blown it knowing how to handle that. 00:09:37.984 --> 00:09:42.987 A superior student is able to understand conversations between native speakers and 00:09:42.987 --> 00:09:47.647 can serve as an interpreter for people who don't speak that target language. 00:09:47.647 --> 00:09:49.357 Again, it might not be quite perfect. 00:09:49.357 --> 00:09:53.353 But at a superior level, your knowledge of your native language and 00:09:53.353 --> 00:09:57.419 your target language is good enough that you can handle exchanges for 00:09:57.419 --> 00:10:01.366 other people and you're able to carry out job responsibilities. 00:10:01.366 --> 00:10:02.950 You could actually work in your target language. 00:10:02.950 --> 00:10:04.866 There's another level yet, 00:10:04.866 --> 00:10:08.782 which is the distinguished level of language proficiency. 00:10:08.782 --> 00:10:14.300 This is a person who practically never makes mistakes in the target language, 00:10:14.300 --> 00:10:19.582 is always understood by native speakers when they're talking with them. 00:10:19.582 --> 00:10:23.575 A distinguished speaker is able to understand jokes and puns. 00:10:23.575 --> 00:10:28.269 That's a tricky thing, when you can understand jokes and puns spontaneously 00:10:28.269 --> 00:10:32.548 without preparation, without reading them in advance or something. 00:10:32.548 --> 00:10:36.803 And somebody's making a joke or wordplay and you can follow it. 00:10:36.803 --> 00:10:41.322 A distinguished person is able to convey exact meanings on various subjects, 00:10:41.322 --> 00:10:45.703 including professional things and talking about feelings and opinions and 00:10:45.703 --> 00:10:46.875 that sort of thing. 00:10:46.875 --> 00:10:51.157 It's one thing to be able to explain anything that happens in your life in 00:10:51.157 --> 00:10:53.063 tangible, physical objects. 00:10:53.063 --> 00:10:57.902 But when you start talking about your feelings and emotions and your opinions 00:10:57.902 --> 00:11:02.979 about politics or the way your business should run, that's a higher level yet. 00:11:02.979 --> 00:11:05.775 That's more what we would call distinguished proficiency. 00:11:05.775 --> 00:11:10.798 There is a significant understanding of target language culture and 00:11:10.798 --> 00:11:15.561 that's one thing that is really important to your development in 00:11:15.561 --> 00:11:18.430 proficiency in your target language. 00:11:18.430 --> 00:11:22.890 A distinguished speaker is also able to adjust their speech to 00:11:22.890 --> 00:11:26.329 accommodate whatever situation they're in. 00:11:26.329 --> 00:11:30.264 So for example, if you are involved in explaining a legal position before 00:11:30.264 --> 00:11:33.500 a judge, you talk differently than the way that you talk with 00:11:33.500 --> 00:11:36.822 your buddies when you're having a coffee in the coffee shop. 00:11:36.822 --> 00:11:39.293 There is a different register. 00:11:39.293 --> 00:11:44.320 Register is a reference to a level of formality. 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:49.626 A distinguished speaker recognizes that and adjusts. 00:11:49.626 --> 00:11:51.920 A native level speaker is, 00:11:51.920 --> 00:11:57.918 this is the holy grail of language students and we all hope to get there. 00:11:57.918 --> 00:12:00.311 The real truth is that as adults, 00:12:00.311 --> 00:12:05.616 most of us will not become native level proficient in a foreign language. 00:12:05.616 --> 00:12:10.593 Although some of us get pretty close, depending on how early we started and 00:12:10.593 --> 00:12:14.785 our motivation level and the amount of time that we put into it. 00:12:14.785 --> 00:12:16.821 And of course, if you take my classes, 00:12:16.821 --> 00:12:19.920 you have a better chance than whatever else you're doing. 00:12:19.920 --> 00:12:24.121 But native level proficiency means that you are treated 00:12:24.121 --> 00:12:26.809 like a native by outside speakers. 00:12:26.809 --> 00:12:29.049 You're in a conversation and you're one of the gang. 00:12:29.049 --> 00:12:33.001 They don't adjust things to treat you as a foreigner. 00:12:33.001 --> 00:12:37.383 You feel more or less at home in your target language as you do in English and 00:12:37.383 --> 00:12:42.334 sometimes you feel you're at home more when you're speaking your second language 00:12:42.334 --> 00:12:43.973 than your first language. 00:12:43.973 --> 00:12:46.280 You're really an insider at this point. 00:12:46.280 --> 00:12:48.543 Another test, this is a tricky one. 00:12:48.543 --> 00:12:52.694 If you can do mental math in your target language, if you can sit there and 00:12:52.694 --> 00:12:55.837 do calculations in your head in your target language. 00:12:55.837 --> 00:12:59.465 Wow, you've really accomplished something, because that is not a simple task and 00:12:59.465 --> 00:13:01.213 most language students can't do that. 00:13:01.213 --> 00:13:03.319 When you are a native speaker, 00:13:03.319 --> 00:13:08.678 that's when you would say that you are completely bilingual and bicultural. 00:13:08.678 --> 00:13:13.113 You function in this language just like your own language. 00:13:13.113 --> 00:13:17.821 In real life for most of us as language students we're somewhere 00:13:17.821 --> 00:13:21.928 else on the proficiency scale other than native level. 00:13:21.928 --> 00:13:26.792 If you grew up with two languages, if you're the the child of a missionary or 00:13:26.792 --> 00:13:30.060 if you were a diplomat's kid in another country and 00:13:30.060 --> 00:13:35.456 grew up with a couple of languages, then it's very possible that you might be very, 00:13:35.456 --> 00:13:38.357 very native like in in two or more languages. 00:13:38.357 --> 00:13:43.566 But if you're a person like me who grew up in a mono lingual home and 00:13:43.566 --> 00:13:49.172 spoke only English in your home and then started to pick up languages. 00:13:49.172 --> 00:13:51.159 Especially as an adult as I did, 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:55.223 then you're probably somewhere else in the proficiency scale. 00:13:55.223 --> 00:13:58.993 And of course, your proficiency in various languages will be different. 00:13:58.993 --> 00:14:02.839 In some languages, you'll have a high level of proficiency. 00:14:02.839 --> 00:14:04.824 And in other languages, it will be lower. 00:14:04.824 --> 00:14:08.574 But it's very helpful for describing your language skill. 00:14:08.574 --> 00:14:12.921 And when you're talking with somebody else and they tell you that they speak another 00:14:12.921 --> 00:14:15.749 language fluently, you don't know what that means. 00:14:15.749 --> 00:14:19.958 So using a proficiency scale is very helpful andat the bottom of the screen, 00:14:19.958 --> 00:14:25.340 I'll put a reference to the chart on my website that describes proficiency levels. 00:14:25.340 --> 00:14:29.810 I hope this was helpful for you and I look forward to talking to you again. 00:14:29.810 --> 00:14:30.470 Thanks, bye, bye.