1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,527 [MUSIC] 2 00:00:08,527 --> 00:00:10,011 Hi, there language learning aficionados. 3 00:00:10,011 --> 00:00:12,591 This is Keith Swayne at Five Arrows again. 4 00:00:12,591 --> 00:00:17,573 I've been talking in my previous videos about the difference 5 00:00:17,573 --> 00:00:23,048 between proficiency and achievement or proficiency and fluency. 6 00:00:23,048 --> 00:00:28,239 Today, I wanna talk about different levels of proficiency and what those look like. 7 00:00:28,239 --> 00:00:32,032 When you think of yourself speaking another language, 8 00:00:32,032 --> 00:00:36,792 you'll find some of these descriptions are helpful to peg the level at 9 00:00:36,792 --> 00:00:40,759 which you are able to perform certain tasks in a language. 10 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:45,996 When people are learning languages, they always move through 11 00:00:45,996 --> 00:00:51,350 a particular series of levels of skill and this is very helpful. 12 00:00:51,350 --> 00:00:53,212 When I have people joining our classes, 13 00:00:53,212 --> 00:00:56,956 I asked them to take a look at a chart on a website which I'm gonna be referring to. 14 00:00:56,956 --> 00:01:01,457 You'll see my eyes looking over on other parts of my computer screen here as I look 15 00:01:01,457 --> 00:01:03,121 at some of the descriptions. 16 00:01:03,121 --> 00:01:08,754 But I ask students to take a look and see what describes them the best. 17 00:01:08,754 --> 00:01:11,881 With a chart like the one that's on my website, 18 00:01:11,881 --> 00:01:15,723 you're able to figure out exactly what level you're at. 19 00:01:15,723 --> 00:01:18,563 It also helps you figure out what you need to do or 20 00:01:18,563 --> 00:01:22,910 what you need to be able to do in order to speak at a new proficiency level. 21 00:01:22,910 --> 00:01:25,317 So if you're a beginner in Polish, 22 00:01:25,317 --> 00:01:30,064 what would it look like if you were an intermediate speaker of Polish? 23 00:01:30,064 --> 00:01:33,236 And what should you be doing in order to reach that next level? 24 00:01:33,236 --> 00:01:36,831 It hardly matters what you study or what kind of a program you use. 25 00:01:36,831 --> 00:01:40,660 You will progress in the same order of development. 26 00:01:40,660 --> 00:01:43,264 So let's take a look at a few of these. 27 00:01:43,264 --> 00:01:48,005 And again, as I said, I'm referring to something else on my screen. 28 00:01:48,005 --> 00:01:52,380 First, let me talk about the very first level of proficiency and 29 00:01:52,380 --> 00:01:57,337 this is describing something between absolute beginners and a novice. 30 00:01:57,337 --> 00:02:01,881 There's various levels of novice, but an absolute beginner is a person who doesn't 31 00:02:01,881 --> 00:02:05,804 really have any ability at all in their target language and that's fine. 32 00:02:05,804 --> 00:02:09,521 That's the starting point for everyone at some point including in English. 33 00:02:09,521 --> 00:02:14,797 That's where you're at, but a person who studies a new 34 00:02:14,797 --> 00:02:20,305 language will soon move to a novice level of proficiency. 35 00:02:20,305 --> 00:02:24,880 And a high novice level speaker of a new language can use maybe 50 or 36 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:30,513 100 words in their new language, they're able to do some really basic things. 37 00:02:30,513 --> 00:02:35,511 They're able to survive in the most predictable situations 38 00:02:35,511 --> 00:02:38,747 by using rehearsed words and phrases. 39 00:02:38,747 --> 00:02:41,498 There can't be any surprises for a novice. 40 00:02:41,498 --> 00:02:45,678 And if there are any surprises, they are quickly lost. 41 00:02:45,678 --> 00:02:50,375 It doesn't take very long to move from the novice level to the intermediate level. 42 00:02:50,375 --> 00:02:53,822 And an intermediate student of a new language looks very 43 00:02:53,822 --> 00:02:55,443 different from a novice. 44 00:02:55,443 --> 00:02:59,808 An intermediate student can start a conversation and end one, 45 00:02:59,808 --> 00:03:05,258 can order food from a menu, can tell time and the days of the week and the dates. 46 00:03:05,258 --> 00:03:10,407 An intermediate student is able to make purchases in their target language. 47 00:03:10,407 --> 00:03:14,026 Maybe get directions on foot or in a vehicle, can introduce themselves and 48 00:03:14,026 --> 00:03:18,290 get some personal information about the person they're speaking with. 49 00:03:18,290 --> 00:03:22,986 And they are able to distinguish between formal and informal address if 50 00:03:22,986 --> 00:03:27,612 you're speaking Spanish or French, or Portuguese, or something. 51 00:03:27,612 --> 00:03:30,355 You'll know there's a difference between the way that you speak to somebody that 52 00:03:30,355 --> 00:03:31,679 you know well and somebody you don't. 53 00:03:31,679 --> 00:03:35,888 They're able to maintain very simple face to face 54 00:03:35,888 --> 00:03:40,502 conversations with lots of mistakes, that's fine. 55 00:03:40,502 --> 00:03:42,988 But now, they're beginning to function this language. 56 00:03:42,988 --> 00:03:45,281 That is an intermediate student. 57 00:03:45,281 --> 00:03:50,828 But again, they're looking at predictable uses of the language. 58 00:03:50,828 --> 00:03:55,356 What you'll find is that the time that it takes you to move from a novice to 59 00:03:55,356 --> 00:03:59,826 an intermediate is doubled when you go from intermediate to advanced. 60 00:03:59,826 --> 00:04:03,806 And when you move from advanced to advanced plus or to superior or 61 00:04:03,806 --> 00:04:08,447 to distinguished levels of proficiency, each level takes twice as long or 62 00:04:08,447 --> 00:04:10,375 more than the previous level. 63 00:04:10,375 --> 00:04:11,632 So that's helpful. 64 00:04:11,632 --> 00:04:16,650 So sometimes you'll say, I feel like I'm at a plateau in my target language. 65 00:04:16,650 --> 00:04:17,961 That's completely normal. 66 00:04:17,961 --> 00:04:20,496 It just takes longer to get to the next level of proficiency. 67 00:04:20,496 --> 00:04:22,515 And keep going, you're gonna do fine. 68 00:04:22,515 --> 00:04:27,267 It's impossible to keep working on your languages and not become bilingual if 69 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:32,172 you're just following a few basic rules, and that's another video to come up. 70 00:04:32,172 --> 00:04:34,871 Let's talk about advanced levels of proficiency. 71 00:04:34,871 --> 00:04:39,819 An advanced student, this is not a perfect speaker of the language. 72 00:04:39,819 --> 00:04:43,694 And sometimes when people are calling me about advanced Spanish classes or 73 00:04:43,694 --> 00:04:46,953 French classes, they'll say I don't know if I'm advanced, 74 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:49,673 because they're freaked out by the term advanced. 75 00:04:49,673 --> 00:04:51,581 Advanced doesn't mean perfect. 76 00:04:51,581 --> 00:04:56,298 Advanced means someone who has a pretty good idea of how the language works. 77 00:04:56,298 --> 00:05:00,073 If you are an advanced student, you have probably worked through some kind of 78 00:05:00,073 --> 00:05:03,152 a textbook and you know the basic structures of your language, 79 00:05:03,152 --> 00:05:05,676 does it have genders like masculine and feminine. 80 00:05:05,676 --> 00:05:06,848 How did the verbs work? 81 00:05:06,848 --> 00:05:09,045 What's roughly the word order? 82 00:05:09,045 --> 00:05:11,871 Are there any weird sounds in this language? 83 00:05:11,871 --> 00:05:15,803 You got a picture, it doesn't mean that you've mastered everything or 84 00:05:15,803 --> 00:05:18,187 even that all the things that you studied and 85 00:05:18,187 --> 00:05:21,293 maybe tried to memorize that you can use them perfectly. 86 00:05:21,293 --> 00:05:25,766 That's a different thing, but advanced means you've got a handle on it. 87 00:05:25,766 --> 00:05:27,884 Your pronunciation is always intelligible. 88 00:05:27,884 --> 00:05:28,643 It's not perfect. 89 00:05:28,643 --> 00:05:32,872 You might be easily recognized as a native speaker of something else. 90 00:05:32,872 --> 00:05:38,017 It means that you could exchange a basic message over the phone. 91 00:05:38,017 --> 00:05:39,465 Generally speaking, 92 00:05:39,465 --> 00:05:44,502 you can understand maybe 80% of what's going on in a simple conversation. 93 00:05:44,502 --> 00:05:48,249 And the people who are speaking with you can understand 80% of what you're saying, 94 00:05:48,249 --> 00:05:51,040 but there's still mistakes and there's still difficulties. 95 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,909 There's still challenges. 96 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:59,570 The communication works when you're at advanced level. 97 00:05:59,570 --> 00:06:03,863 So when you're at an intermediate level, you can survive. 98 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:07,513 This is what we mean when we say things like I can get by in. 99 00:06:07,513 --> 00:06:10,349 I can get by in Greek. 100 00:06:10,349 --> 00:06:12,618 It means I can survive. 101 00:06:12,618 --> 00:06:15,192 I could handle basic situations. 102 00:06:15,192 --> 00:06:19,214 I can combine the words and phrases that I've learned before to get my way around, 103 00:06:19,214 --> 00:06:22,611 and it's far from perfect, and sometimes it's really confusing. 104 00:06:22,611 --> 00:06:23,754 That's intermediate. 105 00:06:23,754 --> 00:06:27,242 Advanced means I can have a conversation and 106 00:06:27,242 --> 00:06:31,019 I might not pass myself off as a native speaker. 107 00:06:31,019 --> 00:06:36,568 In fact, I can't quite at that level, but I don't need a predictable situation. 108 00:06:36,568 --> 00:06:41,276 If I run into somebody who speaks my target language, we can talk for 109 00:06:41,276 --> 00:06:44,013 a half an hour in connected discourse. 110 00:06:44,013 --> 00:06:48,002 Meaning, sentence after sentence without large pauses and hesitation. 111 00:06:48,002 --> 00:06:51,800 And sure, you stop and you look for a word and you mix up your word order and you say 112 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,567 some things that aren't quite right and maybe make an embarrassing mistake. 113 00:06:55,567 --> 00:07:00,225 That's still at an advanced level, but getting beyond an advanced level 114 00:07:00,225 --> 00:07:04,355 means that you're able to perhaps work in your target language, 115 00:07:04,355 --> 00:07:07,825 that you don't avoid certain features of a language. 116 00:07:07,825 --> 00:07:11,956 I know when I was learning Spanish, one of the things that I did early on is I would 117 00:07:11,956 --> 00:07:14,005 talk in the present tense all the time. 118 00:07:14,005 --> 00:07:16,056 Everything was as if it's happening now and 119 00:07:16,056 --> 00:07:19,167 then I'd add in some words like yesterday, I'm going downtown. 120 00:07:19,167 --> 00:07:22,092 Two years ago, I am talking with my friends and I'm doing this and that. 121 00:07:22,092 --> 00:07:26,958 So I was avoiding certain structures and I know that a lot of my advanced students in 122 00:07:26,958 --> 00:07:31,769 Spanish will avoid the subjunctive, because it's so different from English. 123 00:07:31,769 --> 00:07:34,685 When you get to a superior level in your target language, 124 00:07:34,685 --> 00:07:37,497 then you don't avoid certain grammatical features. 125 00:07:37,497 --> 00:07:42,174 Another thing that differs between advanced and superior. 126 00:07:42,174 --> 00:07:44,786 Sometimes even when you're an advanced level in language, 127 00:07:44,786 --> 00:07:46,331 I know that this has happened to me. 128 00:07:46,331 --> 00:07:49,759 You start a sentence and you get halfway through it and you think, no, 129 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:51,236 I can't finish this sentence. 130 00:07:51,236 --> 00:07:54,803 No matter what I do, I don't know how I'm gonna find a way around this. 131 00:07:54,803 --> 00:07:59,531 At a superior level, you can finish any sentence you start. 132 00:07:59,531 --> 00:08:03,500 Sometimes in an advanced level, you can't finish it in anyway that you thought of. 133 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:07,377 And you have to step back and say, okay, how will I say this in some other way? 134 00:08:07,377 --> 00:08:08,646 Can I paraphrase this? 135 00:08:08,646 --> 00:08:11,096 Can I find some other way around? 136 00:08:11,096 --> 00:08:14,779 Can I draw a picture on a napkin to get the job done? 137 00:08:14,779 --> 00:08:16,931 That's called circumlocution. 138 00:08:16,931 --> 00:08:20,466 Talking my way around what I was trying to say directly, but 139 00:08:20,466 --> 00:08:23,308 a superior student can complete any sentence. 140 00:08:23,308 --> 00:08:25,792 They can participate in a conversation between native speakers. 141 00:08:25,792 --> 00:08:28,288 Sometimes when we're speaking with native speakers, 142 00:08:28,288 --> 00:08:29,886 they adjust the way that they talk. 143 00:08:29,886 --> 00:08:33,765 Because they recognize that we're not really all the way there yet and 144 00:08:33,765 --> 00:08:35,933 they'll slow it down a little bit, and 145 00:08:35,933 --> 00:08:39,038 keep their word choices a little bit simple or simpler. 146 00:08:39,038 --> 00:08:41,217 But when you are at a superior level, 147 00:08:41,217 --> 00:08:45,377 the people you're talking with don't adjust their language at all. 148 00:08:45,377 --> 00:08:49,590 Some people who speak your target language don't know how to talk to foreigners and 149 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:53,621 that makes it really difficult for you if you're at an intermediate level, and 150 00:08:53,621 --> 00:08:56,116 sometimes even if you're in an advanced level. 151 00:08:56,116 --> 00:08:58,896 But at a superior level, you might not catch everything. 152 00:08:58,896 --> 00:09:01,956 But you're okay talking with native speakers in the way that 153 00:09:01,956 --> 00:09:02,983 they usually talk. 154 00:09:02,983 --> 00:09:05,294 You're able to understand the information over the phone. 155 00:09:05,294 --> 00:09:09,171 You're able to take notes when you're listening to somebody talking 156 00:09:09,171 --> 00:09:10,031 the language. 157 00:09:10,031 --> 00:09:14,245 You're able to communicate clearly with a group of people, 158 00:09:14,245 --> 00:09:16,567 even on professional subjects. 159 00:09:16,567 --> 00:09:19,701 There's some technical subjects other than just sort of the day to day stuff. 160 00:09:19,701 --> 00:09:25,212 You're able to get through common blunders and mistakes. 161 00:09:25,212 --> 00:09:26,423 That's super helpful. 162 00:09:26,423 --> 00:09:31,268 Learning how to handle the problem if you can't finish a sentence or 163 00:09:31,268 --> 00:09:34,243 if you don't know how to say something and 164 00:09:34,243 --> 00:09:37,984 you've really blown it knowing how to handle that. 165 00:09:37,984 --> 00:09:42,987 A superior student is able to understand conversations between native speakers and 166 00:09:42,987 --> 00:09:47,647 can serve as an interpreter for people who don't speak that target language. 167 00:09:47,647 --> 00:09:49,357 Again, it might not be quite perfect. 168 00:09:49,357 --> 00:09:53,353 But at a superior level, your knowledge of your native language and 169 00:09:53,353 --> 00:09:57,419 your target language is good enough that you can handle exchanges for 170 00:09:57,419 --> 00:10:01,366 other people and you're able to carry out job responsibilities. 171 00:10:01,366 --> 00:10:02,950 You could actually work in your target language. 172 00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:04,866 There's another level yet, 173 00:10:04,866 --> 00:10:08,782 which is the distinguished level of language proficiency. 174 00:10:08,782 --> 00:10:14,300 This is a person who practically never makes mistakes in the target language, 175 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:19,582 is always understood by native speakers when they're talking with them. 176 00:10:19,582 --> 00:10:23,575 A distinguished speaker is able to understand jokes and puns. 177 00:10:23,575 --> 00:10:28,269 That's a tricky thing, when you can understand jokes and puns spontaneously 178 00:10:28,269 --> 00:10:32,548 without preparation, without reading them in advance or something. 179 00:10:32,548 --> 00:10:36,803 And somebody's making a joke or wordplay and you can follow it. 180 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:41,322 A distinguished person is able to convey exact meanings on various subjects, 181 00:10:41,322 --> 00:10:45,703 including professional things and talking about feelings and opinions and 182 00:10:45,703 --> 00:10:46,875 that sort of thing. 183 00:10:46,875 --> 00:10:51,157 It's one thing to be able to explain anything that happens in your life in 184 00:10:51,157 --> 00:10:53,063 tangible, physical objects. 185 00:10:53,063 --> 00:10:57,902 But when you start talking about your feelings and emotions and your opinions 186 00:10:57,902 --> 00:11:02,979 about politics or the way your business should run, that's a higher level yet. 187 00:11:02,979 --> 00:11:05,775 That's more what we would call distinguished proficiency. 188 00:11:05,775 --> 00:11:10,798 There is a significant understanding of target language culture and 189 00:11:10,798 --> 00:11:15,561 that's one thing that is really important to your development in 190 00:11:15,561 --> 00:11:18,430 proficiency in your target language. 191 00:11:18,430 --> 00:11:22,890 A distinguished speaker is also able to adjust their speech to 192 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:26,329 accommodate whatever situation they're in. 193 00:11:26,329 --> 00:11:30,264 So for example, if you are involved in explaining a legal position before 194 00:11:30,264 --> 00:11:33,500 a judge, you talk differently than the way that you talk with 195 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:36,822 your buddies when you're having a coffee in the coffee shop. 196 00:11:36,822 --> 00:11:39,293 There is a different register. 197 00:11:39,293 --> 00:11:44,320 Register is a reference to a level of formality. 198 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,626 A distinguished speaker recognizes that and adjusts. 199 00:11:49,626 --> 00:11:51,920 A native level speaker is, 200 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:57,918 this is the holy grail of language students and we all hope to get there. 201 00:11:57,918 --> 00:12:00,311 The real truth is that as adults, 202 00:12:00,311 --> 00:12:05,616 most of us will not become native level proficient in a foreign language. 203 00:12:05,616 --> 00:12:10,593 Although some of us get pretty close, depending on how early we started and 204 00:12:10,593 --> 00:12:14,785 our motivation level and the amount of time that we put into it. 205 00:12:14,785 --> 00:12:16,821 And of course, if you take my classes, 206 00:12:16,821 --> 00:12:19,920 you have a better chance than whatever else you're doing. 207 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,121 But native level proficiency means that you are treated 208 00:12:24,121 --> 00:12:26,809 like a native by outside speakers. 209 00:12:26,809 --> 00:12:29,049 You're in a conversation and you're one of the gang. 210 00:12:29,049 --> 00:12:33,001 They don't adjust things to treat you as a foreigner. 211 00:12:33,001 --> 00:12:37,383 You feel more or less at home in your target language as you do in English and 212 00:12:37,383 --> 00:12:42,334 sometimes you feel you're at home more when you're speaking your second language 213 00:12:42,334 --> 00:12:43,973 than your first language. 214 00:12:43,973 --> 00:12:46,280 You're really an insider at this point. 215 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,543 Another test, this is a tricky one. 216 00:12:48,543 --> 00:12:52,694 If you can do mental math in your target language, if you can sit there and 217 00:12:52,694 --> 00:12:55,837 do calculations in your head in your target language. 218 00:12:55,837 --> 00:12:59,465 Wow, you've really accomplished something, because that is not a simple task and 219 00:12:59,465 --> 00:13:01,213 most language students can't do that. 220 00:13:01,213 --> 00:13:03,319 When you are a native speaker, 221 00:13:03,319 --> 00:13:08,678 that's when you would say that you are completely bilingual and bicultural. 222 00:13:08,678 --> 00:13:13,113 You function in this language just like your own language. 223 00:13:13,113 --> 00:13:17,821 In real life for most of us as language students we're somewhere 224 00:13:17,821 --> 00:13:21,928 else on the proficiency scale other than native level. 225 00:13:21,928 --> 00:13:26,792 If you grew up with two languages, if you're the the child of a missionary or 226 00:13:26,792 --> 00:13:30,060 if you were a diplomat's kid in another country and 227 00:13:30,060 --> 00:13:35,456 grew up with a couple of languages, then it's very possible that you might be very, 228 00:13:35,456 --> 00:13:38,357 very native like in in two or more languages. 229 00:13:38,357 --> 00:13:43,566 But if you're a person like me who grew up in a mono lingual home and 230 00:13:43,566 --> 00:13:49,172 spoke only English in your home and then started to pick up languages. 231 00:13:49,172 --> 00:13:51,159 Especially as an adult as I did, 232 00:13:51,159 --> 00:13:55,223 then you're probably somewhere else in the proficiency scale. 233 00:13:55,223 --> 00:13:58,993 And of course, your proficiency in various languages will be different. 234 00:13:58,993 --> 00:14:02,839 In some languages, you'll have a high level of proficiency. 235 00:14:02,839 --> 00:14:04,824 And in other languages, it will be lower. 236 00:14:04,824 --> 00:14:08,574 But it's very helpful for describing your language skill. 237 00:14:08,574 --> 00:14:12,921 And when you're talking with somebody else and they tell you that they speak another 238 00:14:12,921 --> 00:14:15,749 language fluently, you don't know what that means. 239 00:14:15,749 --> 00:14:19,958 So using a proficiency scale is very helpful andat the bottom of the screen, 240 00:14:19,958 --> 00:14:25,340 I'll put a reference to the chart on my website that describes proficiency levels. 241 00:14:25,340 --> 00:14:29,810 I hope this was helpful for you and I look forward to talking to you again. 242 00:14:29,810 --> 00:14:30,470 Thanks, bye, bye.