[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.96,0:01:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Olafur Eliasson: The objects are not necessarily the \Nmost interesting part about art. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.48,0:01:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is what the object does to me when I look at \Nit, or engage in it, that is actually interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.14,0:01:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are somehow provoked \Ninto a more negotiating role, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.00,0:01:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you go like, "What am I looking at?" Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.86,0:01:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you are more likely to also inquire, \N"Well what does looking actually mean, Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.20,0:01:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and why am I seeing things the way I'm seeing it?" Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.38,0:01:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of questioning the object, \Nyou are in fact questioning yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.96,0:02:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That I think is one of the \Ngreat things art can do. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.68,0:02:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Art can somehow offer an opportunity, \Nto sort of, do some self-evaluation. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.00,0:02:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I came to Berlin in the early 90's, the \Nart scene, it was still relatively small. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.16,0:02:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was cheap, easy to get a \Nstudio, easy to meet friends. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.00,0:02:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That created a lot of artistic activity. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.48,0:02:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was so impressed with the artists, Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.64,0:02:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I also realized I had to be as honest \Nthey were to themself, I had to be to myself. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.56,0:02:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I said I'll just deal with \Nthe tools that I have, and what I know. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.86,0:02:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in Denmark, and I spent a lot of \Ntime in Iceland, where my parents are from. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.68,0:02:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would typically spend more \Ntime in the countryside. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.20,0:02:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would just climb, and make small \Ndams in the rivers and so on ... Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.66,0:03:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not about me growing \Nup in a certain situation. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.66,0:03:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really about you and what you can make of it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.54,0:03:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I brought in working with ephemera, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.06,0:03:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working with water, working \Nwith temperature, and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.44,0:03:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not really about \Nromanticizing nature versus culture. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.82,0:03:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was just that these were the things I knew. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.72,0:03:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought that a waterfall would offer a \Ndimensional quality to these enormous spaces, Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.38,0:03:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would allow us to physically \Nrelate to the city on a more human scale. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.28,0:03:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was about creating this sense of presence, Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.80,0:03:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which you are welcome, Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.00,0:03:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you could share it looking with \Nsomebody else, and you know ... Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.15,0:04:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Creating that moment in it's own surreal way. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.04,0:04:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nature presented a great toolbox, Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.84,0:04:09.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would offer a lot of spatial experiments \Nthrough which we could investigate each other. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.57,0:04:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people still think that artists work in this \Nkind of solitary position. Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.78,0:04:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I actually don’t think that’s the case. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.52,0:04:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Artists are incredibly interconnected in different networks. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.34,0:04:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I started my studio in Berlin, \Nfor many years I did everything myself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.40,0:04:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was lucky to realize that other \Npeople are probably better at it. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.00,0:04:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Caroline Eggel: When I started \Nin 2000, we were 3 people. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.38,0:04:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two years later, we were twenty, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.90,0:04:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then continuously more people arrived. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.12,0:05:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eliasson: I really didn't want to get \Nspecialized in a form, but more in content. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.14,0:05:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ambition was to prevent \Nus only working in one thing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.04,0:05:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some 5, 6, 7, 8 years now, \Nwe've been around ninety people. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.14,0:05:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Broadly speaking, there's 3 teams \Nin the studio, one is craftsman, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.34,0:05:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one is a research team, and \None is a team of architects. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.10,0:05:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that they would feel that it's worth \Nbeing a part of the team is incredibly inspiring. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.28,0:06:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eggel: It's always a collaborative \Nmoment. No one here does anything alone. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.14,0:06:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When starting a project together, we \Nthink about what does he want to say, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.72,0:06:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what is important to say in \Nthese days, or at this moment? Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.60,0:06:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eliasson: I've always been interested in, how \Ndoes one know that one is in a public space? Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.39,0:06:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like the “Weather Project” ... I wanted to see, Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.40,0:06:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can I create a work of art \Nboth inside and the outside? Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.38,0:06:41.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We play around a lot, and we do a lot \Nof things that are non-quantifiable. Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.50,0:06:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We experiment with artworks that \Neventually does not turn into an artwork, Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.08,0:06:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it turns out to be a lot less \Ninteresting than I thought it would be. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.38,0:06:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sadly, it happens a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.96,0:06:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the important things, is that everybody \Nseems to have some kind of feeling of, Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.46,0:06:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why are we doing what we're doing. Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.50,0:07:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anna Engberg-Pedersen: So ten years \Nago, he'd be very focused in thinking Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.22,0:07:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what artworks do in museums, Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.28,0:07:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what museums do to artworks. Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.04,0:07:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wanted to test art in public space. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.18,0:07:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does art do when you encounter \Nit in an un-prescribed way? Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.18,0:07:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sebastian Behmann: My entering \Ninto the studio offered Olafur Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.32,0:07:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the possibility to actually work in \Npublic space, in a more significant way. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.25,0:07:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The boring thing to me about art is if it's \Nonly made for people who look at art anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.60,0:08:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has strong opinions, but he's also very \Nopen about how his thoughts get expressed. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.30,0:08:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not necessarily about that he likes this or that, \Nbut it's about the potential of the material. Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.88,0:08:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the potential of a shape or space. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.28,0:08:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We consider the bridge more as an \Nartwork than an architectural work. Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.00,0:08:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea behind the bridge is that \Nyou actually generate a space, Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.30,0:08:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than only the connection between two sides. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.68,0:08:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to have a design \Nwhich is a lot more playful. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.00,0:09:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea of crossing from one side to the \Nother, kind of jumping over little islands. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.52,0:09:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Engberg-Pedersen: Most anyone among us, has experienced the power Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.42,0:09:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that an artwork has to create \Nsome type of interior change. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.80,0:09:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something that motivates us ... makes us \Ngo, "Wow, this made me think differently." Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.18,0:09:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take “Ice Watch” for instance. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.74,0:09:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We brought these twelve blocks of \NGreenlandic ice to Copenhagen in 2014, Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.65,0:09:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to coincide with the publication \Nof the fifth climate report. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.50,0:09:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then again in 2015 in Paris. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.46,0:10:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wanted to \Ntalk about climate change, and we thought, Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.72,0:10:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well what art does is that it affords \Nan immediate experience of something. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.04,0:10:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we lack today is an immediate \Nexperience of what climate change means. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.69,0:10:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eliasson: I was finding a lot of satisfaction \Nin doing the “Ice Watch” project. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.99,0:10:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This gave me confidence to start to operate more \Non behalf of the cultural center in advocacy. Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.26,0:10:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once I met with an engineer, \Nwho's sort of a solar nerd. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.48,0:10:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I, as an artist, I was interested in, how does \Nit feel to be able to harvest your own energy? Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.25,0:10:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, clearly his skills and \Nmy skills must be usable together, Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.86,0:10:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is how we came up \Nwith the “Little Sun” project. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.26,0:11:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Felix Hallwachs: The idea that we were looking \Nat with “Little Sun,” is could we make something, Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.84,0:11:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which for us is a work of art \Nbut, for someone here in Berlin, Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.92,0:11:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be an advocacy tool for renewable energy, Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.10,0:11:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for a child in Ethiopia, it could \Nmaybe really be a life-changing thing. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.96,0:11:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think it's so much \Na shift in Olafur's work, Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.18,0:11:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it is an evolution, an expanding of the tools. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.80,0:11:35.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eliasson: I often thought about the studio not being a \Nplace you step into to get away from the world, Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.08,0:11:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a place through which you can have \Na microscopic look at the world outside. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.46,0:11:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On a good day, the studio is \Nalmost like an amplifier of, Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.66,0:11:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this sort of, frequencies on \Nwhich the world is moving. Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.70,0:11:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eggel: The goal was to do \Nsomething meaningful with art. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.12,0:11:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To also go beyond art. Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.58,0:12:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eliasson: What we are \Ninterested in when making art, Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.92,0:12:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to examine the organization of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.04,0:12:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Art doesn't stop where the real world starts. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.58,0:12:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really think we need to find \Na way to create solutions, Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.32,0:12:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like science has presented solutions to us. Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.20,0:12:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Art, as a civic muscle, \Nactually has something to offer.