0:00:11.388,0:00:14.444 So you probably have the sense,[br]as most people do, 0:00:14.468,0:00:18.124 that polarization[br]is getting worsse in our country, 0:00:18.148,0:00:21.604 that the divide[br]between the left and the right 0:00:21.628,0:00:25.164 is as bad as it's been[br]in really any of our lifetimes. 0:00:25.188,0:00:30.468 But you might also reasonably wonder[br]if research backs up your intuition. 0:00:31.188,0:00:35.868 And in a nutshell,[br]the answer is sadly yes. 0:00:35.892,0:00:37.455 (Laughter) 0:00:37.778,0:00:39.794 In study after study, we find 0:00:39.818,0:00:43.498 that liberals and conservatives[br]have grown further apart. 0:00:44.298,0:00:49.074 They increasingly wall themselves off[br]in these ideological silos, 0:00:49.098,0:00:53.234 consuming different news,[br]talking only to like-minded others 0:00:53.258,0:00:56.498 and more and more choosing[br]to live in different parts of the country. 0:00:57.578,0:01:00.794 And I think that[br]most alarming of all of it 0:01:00.818,0:01:04.617 is seeing this rising[br]animosity on both sides. 0:01:05.298,0:01:06.954 Liberals and conservatives, 0:01:06.978,0:01:08.874 Democrats and Republicans, 0:01:08.898,0:01:12.018 more and more they just[br]don't like one another. 0:01:13.178,0:01:15.194 You see it in many different ways. 0:01:15.218,0:01:18.874 They don't want to befriend one another.[br]They don't want to date one another. 0:01:18.898,0:01:22.194 If they do, if they find out,[br]they find each other less attractive, 0:01:22.218,0:01:25.314 and they more and more don't want[br]their children to marry someone 0:01:25.338,0:01:27.034 who supports the other party, 0:01:27.058,0:01:28.818 a particularly shocking statistic. 0:01:29.478,0:01:31.913 You know, in my lab,[br]the students that I work with, 0:01:31.937,0:01:33.954 we're talking about some social pattern -- 0:01:33.978,0:01:37.514 I'm a movie buff, and so I'm often like, 0:01:37.538,0:01:40.498 what kind of movie are we in here[br]with this pattern? 0:01:40.648,0:01:43.928 So what kind of movie are we in[br]with political polarization? 0:01:44.648,0:01:47.368 Well, it could be a disaster movie. 0:01:48.448,0:01:50.128 It certainly seems like a disaster. 0:01:50.488,0:01:52.488 Could be a war movie. 0:01:53.144,0:01:54.344 Also fits. 0:01:55.048,0:01:58.864 But what I keep thinking is that[br]we're in a zombie apocalypse movie. 0:01:58.888,0:02:00.344 (Laughter) 0:02:00.368,0:02:02.664 Right? You know the kind. 0:02:02.688,0:02:05.104 There's people wandering around in packs, 0:02:05.128,0:02:06.904 not thinking for themselves, 0:02:06.928,0:02:08.544 seized by this mob mentality, 0:02:08.568,0:02:11.808 trying to spread their disease[br]and destroy society. 0:02:12.965,0:02:16.711 And if you're like me,[br]and you're a college-educated liberal -- 0:02:16.735,0:02:19.933 and statistically, I'm guessing,[br]the majority of you ... 0:02:19.957,0:02:22.900 (Laughter) 0:02:22.924,0:02:24.074 are exactly that. 0:02:24.345,0:02:25.757 (Laughter) 0:02:25.908,0:02:27.644 And you probably think, as I do, 0:02:27.668,0:02:31.124 that you're the good guy[br]in the zombie apocalypse movie, 0:02:31.148,0:02:34.846 and all this hate and polarization,[br]it's being propagated by the other people, 0:02:34.870,0:02:36.070 the conservatives. 0:02:37.668,0:02:39.548 We're Brad Pitt, right? 0:02:40.228,0:02:43.124 Free-thinking, righteous, 0:02:43.148,0:02:45.336 just trying to hold on[br]to what we hold dear, 0:02:45.360,0:02:48.943 you know, not foot soldiers[br]in the army of the undead. 0:02:48.967,0:02:50.424 Not that. 0:02:50.448,0:02:51.648 Never that. 0:02:52.448,0:02:53.944 But here's the thing: 0:02:53.968,0:02:56.688 what movie do you suppose[br]they think they're in? 0:02:57.848,0:02:59.064 Right? 0:02:59.088,0:03:01.624 Well, they absolutely think[br]that they're the good guys 0:03:01.648,0:03:03.504 in the zombie apocalypse movie. Right? 0:03:03.528,0:03:06.504 And you'd better believe[br]that they think that they're Brad Pitt 0:03:06.528,0:03:08.648 and that we, we are the zombies. 0:03:11.488,0:03:13.848 And who's to say that they're wrong? 0:03:14.512,0:03:19.369 Look, they click on stupid internet links[br]that say stuff like that ... 0:03:19.393,0:03:22.359 We click on stupid internet links[br]that say stuff like this. 0:03:22.621,0:03:28.247 (Laughter) 0:03:28.430,0:03:31.383 They complain about living near us, 0:03:31.407,0:03:32.589 having to work with us, 0:03:32.613,0:03:34.827 even eating Thanksgiving dinner with us. 0:03:35.851,0:03:37.684 And we do all those same things. 0:03:37.708,0:03:38.858 Right? 0:03:39.510,0:03:40.795 Look, it's true. 0:03:41.018,0:03:42.922 The studies that I see on polarization 0:03:42.946,0:03:45.200 show that conservatives[br]look a little bit worse. 0:03:45.375,0:03:47.105 They look a little bit angrier, 0:03:47.129,0:03:48.827 a little more averse to compromise. 0:03:48.851,0:03:52.160 And we could tell ourselves that means[br]that this is not our problem. 0:03:52.184,0:03:53.605 That it's them doing it. 0:03:54.653,0:03:57.089 But I think that would be taking[br]the easy way out. 0:03:57.113,0:04:00.028 I think that the truth[br]is that we're all a part of this. 0:04:00.708,0:04:03.868 And the good side of that[br]is that we can be a part of the solution. 0:04:04.748,0:04:06.748 So what are we going to do? 0:04:07.788,0:04:12.044 What can we do to chip away[br]at polarization in everyday life? 0:04:12.068,0:04:15.884 What could we do to connect with[br]and communicate with 0:04:15.908,0:04:17.628 our political counterparts? 0:04:18.188,0:04:22.324 Well, these were exactly the questions[br]that I and my colleague Matt Feinberg 0:04:22.348,0:04:24.206 became fascinated with a few years ago, 0:04:24.230,0:04:26.430 and we started[br]doing research on this topic. 0:04:27.388,0:04:30.364 And one of the first things[br]that we discovered 0:04:30.388,0:04:33.844 that I think is really helpful[br]for understanding polarization 0:04:33.868,0:04:35.084 is to understand 0:04:35.108,0:04:39.525 that the political divide in our country[br]is undergirded by a deeper moral divide. 0:04:39.549,0:04:44.324 So one of the most robust findings[br]in the history of political psychology 0:04:44.348,0:04:48.044 is this pattern identified[br]by Jon Haidt and Jesse Graham, 0:04:48.068,0:04:49.284 psychologists, 0:04:49.308,0:04:53.324 that liberals and conservatives[br]tend to endorse different values 0:04:53.348,0:04:54.548 to different degrees. 0:04:55.068,0:05:00.564 So for example, we find that liberals[br]tend to endorse values like equality 0:05:00.588,0:05:04.244 and fairness and care[br]and protection from harm 0:05:04.268,0:05:06.404 more than conservatives do, 0:05:06.428,0:05:11.684 and conservatives tend to endorse[br]values like loyalty, patriotism, 0:05:11.708,0:05:15.164 respect for authority and moral purity 0:05:15.188,0:05:17.268 more than liberals do. 0:05:18.388,0:05:22.444 And Matt and I were thinking[br]that maybe this moral divide 0:05:22.468,0:05:25.564 might be helpful[br]for understanding how it is 0:05:25.588,0:05:28.004 that liberals and conservatives[br]talk to one another 0:05:28.028,0:05:30.444 and why they so often[br]seem to talk past one another 0:05:30.468,0:05:31.684 when they do. 0:05:31.708,0:05:33.684 So we conducted a study 0:05:33.708,0:05:36.804 where we recruited liberals to a study 0:05:36.828,0:05:39.284 where they were supposed[br]to write a persuasive essay 0:05:39.308,0:05:43.748 that would be compelling to a conservative[br]in support of same-sex marriage. 0:05:44.268,0:05:47.524 And what we found was that liberals[br]tended to make arguments 0:05:47.548,0:05:51.724 in terms of the liberal moral values[br]of equality and fairness. 0:05:51.748,0:05:53.484 So they said things like 0:05:53.988,0:05:57.364 "everyone should have the right[br]to love whoever they choose," 0:05:57.388,0:05:59.964 and they -- "they" being gay Americans -- 0:05:59.988,0:06:02.748 "deserve the same equal rights[br]as other Americans." 0:06:03.308,0:06:06.524 Overall, we found[br]that 69 percent of liberals 0:06:06.548,0:06:11.964 invoked one of the more liberal[br]moral values in constructing their essay, 0:06:11.988,0:06:15.684 and only nine percent invoked[br]one of the more conservative moral values, 0:06:15.708,0:06:19.124 even though they were supposed[br]to be trying to persuade conservatives. 0:06:19.148,0:06:23.444 And when we studied conservatives[br]and had them make persuasive arguments 0:06:23.468,0:06:26.364 in support of making English[br]the official language of the US, 0:06:26.388,0:06:28.924 a classically conservative[br]political position, 0:06:28.948,0:06:31.164 we found that they weren't[br]much better at this. 0:06:31.188,0:06:32.804 59 percent of them made arguments 0:06:32.828,0:06:35.524 in terms of one of the more[br]conservative moral values, 0:06:35.548,0:06:38.044 and just eight percent[br]invoked a liberal moral value, 0:06:38.068,0:06:41.428 even though they were supposed[br]to be targeting liberals for persuasion. 0:06:42.428,0:06:46.468 Now, you can see right away[br]why we're in trouble here. Right? 0:06:47.228,0:06:50.724 People's moral values,[br]they're their most deeply held beliefs. 0:06:50.748,0:06:54.148 People are willing[br]to fight and die for their values. 0:06:54.668,0:06:57.364 Why are they going to give that up[br]just to agree with you 0:06:57.388,0:07:00.924 on something that they don't particularly[br]want to agree with you on anyway? 0:07:00.948,0:07:04.204 If that persuasive appeal that[br]you're making to your Republican uncle 0:07:04.228,0:07:06.644 means that he doesn't[br]just have to change his view, 0:07:06.668,0:07:08.804 he's got to change[br]his underlying values too, 0:07:08.828,0:07:10.388 that's not going to go very far. 0:07:11.028,0:07:12.348 So what would work better? 0:07:13.148,0:07:17.444 Well, we believe it's a technique[br]that we call moral reframing, 0:07:17.468,0:07:20.084 and we've studied it[br]in a series of experiments. 0:07:20.108,0:07:21.604 In one of these experiments, 0:07:21.628,0:07:24.764 we recruited liberals[br]and conservatives to a study 0:07:24.788,0:07:27.084 where they read one of three essays 0:07:27.108,0:07:30.148 before having their environmental[br]attitudes surveyed. 0:07:30.588,0:07:32.084 And the first of these essays 0:07:32.108,0:07:35.484 was a relatively conventional[br]proenvironmental essay 0:07:35.508,0:07:39.524 that invoked the liberal values[br]of care and protection from harm. 0:07:39.548,0:07:42.084 It said things like[br]"in many important ways 0:07:42.108,0:07:44.924 we are causing real harm[br]to the places we live in," 0:07:44.948,0:07:47.764 and "it is essential[br]that we take steps now 0:07:47.788,0:07:50.708 to prevent further destruction[br]from being done to our Earth." 0:07:51.668,0:07:53.084 Another group of participants 0:07:53.108,0:07:55.324 were assigned to read[br]a really different essay 0:07:55.348,0:07:59.788 that was designed to tap into[br]the conservative value of moral purity. 0:08:00.028,0:08:01.964 It was a proenvironmental essay as well, 0:08:01.988,0:08:03.484 and it said things like 0:08:03.508,0:08:07.748 "keeping our forests, drinking water,[br]and skies pure is of vital importance." 0:08:08.588,0:08:10.084 "We should regard the pollution 0:08:10.108,0:08:12.148 of the places we live in[br]to be disgusting." 0:08:12.748,0:08:14.844 And "reducing pollution[br]can help us preserve 0:08:14.868,0:08:18.028 what is pure and beautiful[br]about the places we live." 0:08:19.468,0:08:20.884 And then we had a third group 0:08:20.908,0:08:23.404 that were assigned[br]to read just a nonpolitical essay. 0:08:23.428,0:08:26.164 It was just a comparison group[br]so we could get a baseline. 0:08:26.188,0:08:28.141 And what we found when we surveyed people 0:08:28.165,0:08:30.364 about their environmental[br]attitudes afterwards, 0:08:30.388,0:08:33.323 we found that liberals,[br]it didn't matter what essay they read. 0:08:33.347,0:08:36.443 They tended to have highly[br]proenvironmental attitudes regardless. 0:08:36.467,0:08:38.884 Liberals are on board[br]for environmental protection. 0:08:38.908,0:08:40.124 Conservatives, however, 0:08:40.148,0:08:44.564 were significantly more supportive[br]of progressive environmental policies 0:08:44.588,0:08:46.124 and environmental protection 0:08:46.148,0:08:48.204 if they had read the moral purity essay 0:08:48.228,0:08:50.628 than if they read[br]one of the other two essays. 0:08:51.748,0:08:54.844 We even found that conservatives[br]who read the moral purity essay 0:08:54.868,0:08:58.364 were significantly more likely to say[br]that they believed in global warming 0:08:58.388,0:09:00.293 and were concerned about global warming, 0:09:00.317,0:09:03.044 even though this essay[br]didn't even mention global warming. 0:09:03.068,0:09:05.524 That's just a related environmental issue. 0:09:05.548,0:09:08.628 But that's how robust[br]this moral reframing effect was. 0:09:09.548,0:09:13.284 And we've studied this on a whole slew[br]of different political issues. 0:09:13.308,0:09:17.044 So if you want to move conservatives 0:09:17.068,0:09:20.164 on issues like same-sex marriage[br]or national health insurance, 0:09:20.188,0:09:23.644 it helps to tie these liberal[br]political issues to conservative values 0:09:23.668,0:09:25.410 like patriotism and moral purity. 0:09:26.188,0:09:28.284 And we studied it the other way too. 0:09:28.308,0:09:32.124 If you want to move liberals[br]to the right on conservative policy issues 0:09:32.148,0:09:36.474 like military spending and making English[br]the official language of the US, 0:09:36.498,0:09:38.154 you're going to be more persuasive 0:09:38.178,0:09:41.514 if you tie those conservative[br]policy issues to liberal moral values 0:09:41.538,0:09:43.418 like equality and fairness. 0:09:44.708,0:09:47.564 All these studies[br]have the same clear message: 0:09:47.588,0:09:50.524 if you want to persuade[br]someone on some policy, 0:09:50.548,0:09:54.388 it's helpful to connect that policy[br]to their underlying moral values. 0:09:55.527,0:09:59.284 And when you say it like that,[br]it seems really obvious. Right? 0:09:59.308,0:10:01.084 Like, why did we come here tonight? 0:10:01.108,0:10:02.324 Why -- 0:10:02.348,0:10:03.884 (Laughter) 0:10:03.908,0:10:05.948 It's incredibly intuitive. 0:10:07.468,0:10:10.764 And even though it is,[br]it's something we really struggle to do. 0:10:10.788,0:10:14.644 You know, it turns out that when we go[br]to persuade somebody on a political issue, 0:10:14.668,0:10:17.404 we talk like we're speaking into a mirror. 0:10:17.428,0:10:21.804 We don't persuade so much[br]as we rehearse our own reasons 0:10:21.828,0:10:24.708 for why we believe[br]some sort of political position. 0:10:24.987,0:10:26.558 But, speaking as a liberal, 0:10:26.582,0:10:30.114 I believe that we're going to need[br]a whole new set of arguments, 0:10:30.138,0:10:32.373 if we're going to move[br]the next wave of people 0:10:32.397,0:10:36.754 on critical issues like climate change,[br]immigration and inequality. 0:10:37.476,0:10:39.690 And to come up with those arguments, 0:10:39.714,0:10:41.484 we're going to have to take the time 0:10:41.508,0:10:44.405 to really listen[br]to our conservative counterparts, 0:10:44.429,0:10:46.698 to understand what they value, 0:10:47.238,0:10:52.063 and then creatively think about[br]why they should come to agree with us, 0:10:52.714,0:10:55.811 and in a way that doesn't[br]involve them having to sacrifice 0:10:55.835,0:10:57.857 the things that they hold most dear. 0:10:59.268,0:11:03.284 We kept saying, when we were designing[br]these reframed moral arguments, 0:11:03.308,0:11:05.948 "empathy and respect,[br]empathy and respect." 0:11:06.508,0:11:07.964 If you can tap into that, 0:11:07.988,0:11:09.644 you can connect 0:11:09.668,0:11:12.468 and you might be able to persuade[br]somebody in this country. 0:11:13.028,0:11:17.748 So thinking, again,[br]about what movie we're in, 0:11:18.668,0:11:20.244 maybe I got carried away before. 0:11:20.268,0:11:22.228 Maybe it's not a zombie apocalypse movie. 0:11:22.988,0:11:24.908 Maybe instead it's a buddy cop movie. 0:11:25.508,0:11:27.524 (Laughter) 0:11:27.548,0:11:29.564 Just roll with it, just go with it please. 0:11:29.588,0:11:31.028 (Laughter) 0:11:31.948,0:11:34.644 You know the kind:[br]there's a white cop and a black cop, 0:11:34.668,0:11:36.804 or maybe a messy cop and an organized cop. 0:11:36.828,0:11:38.884 Whatever it is, they don't get along 0:11:38.908,0:11:40.194 because of this difference. 0:11:40.988,0:11:44.204 But in the end, when they have[br]to come together and they cooperate, 0:11:44.228,0:11:46.164 the solidarity that they feel, 0:11:46.188,0:11:49.828 it's greater because of that gulf[br]that they had to cross. Right? 0:11:50.748,0:11:52.724 And remember that in these movies, 0:11:52.748,0:11:55.644 it's usually worst in the second act 0:11:55.668,0:11:58.068 when our leads are further apart[br]than ever before. 0:11:58.908,0:12:01.244 And so maybe that's[br]where we are in this country, 0:12:01.268,0:12:03.444 late in the second act[br]of a buddy cop movie -- 0:12:03.468,0:12:05.615 (Laughter) 0:12:06.068,0:12:09.250 torn apart but about[br]to come back together. 0:12:10.868,0:12:12.524 It sounds good, 0:12:12.548,0:12:14.404 but if we want it to happen, 0:12:14.428,0:12:17.148 I think the responsibility[br]is going to start with us. 0:12:17.988,0:12:20.148 So this is my call to you: 0:12:20.948,0:12:22.948 let's put this country back together. 0:12:24.548,0:12:27.604 Let's do it despite the politicians 0:12:27.628,0:12:30.484 and the media and Facebook and Twitter 0:12:30.508,0:12:32.044 and Congressional redistricting 0:12:32.068,0:12:34.788 and all of it,[br]all the things that divide us. 0:12:35.828,0:12:38.068 Let's do it because it's right. 0:12:39.388,0:12:43.804 And let's do it[br]because this hate and contempt 0:12:43.828,0:12:45.988 that flows through all of us every day 0:12:46.868,0:12:50.044 makes us ugly and it corrupts us, 0:12:50.068,0:12:53.388 and it threatens[br]the very fabric of our society. 0:12:55.428,0:12:58.084 We owe it to one another and our country 0:12:58.108,0:13:00.268 to reach out and try to connect. 0:13:01.468,0:13:04.628 We can't afford to hate them any longer, 0:13:05.668,0:13:07.868 and we can't afford[br]to let them hate us either. 0:13:09.348,0:13:10.708 Empathy and respect. 0:13:11.348,0:13:12.588 Empathy and respect. 0:13:13.388,0:13:17.188 If you think about it, it's the very least[br]that we owe our fellow citizens. 0:13:17.868,0:13:19.084 Thank you. 0:13:19.108,0:13:23.070 (Applause)