0:00:00.529,0:00:02.309 [As of the morning February 27,2020, 0:00:02.333,0:00:05.810 there were at least 82,000 confirmed[br]cases worldwide of the coronavirus 0:00:05.834,0:00:07.135 and 2,810 deaths from it. 0:00:07.159,0:00:10.946 TED invited Dr. David Heymann to share[br]the latest findings about the outbreak.] 0:00:10.970,0:00:13.611 [What happens if you get infected[br]with the coronavirus?] 0:00:13.635,0:00:16.435 This looks like a very mild disease,[br]like a common cold, 0:00:16.459,0:00:18.228 in the majority of people. 0:00:18.252,0:00:22.752 There are certain people who get infected[br]and have very serious illness; 0:00:22.776,0:00:24.227 among them are health workers. 0:00:24.251,0:00:26.061 It's a very serious infection in them, 0:00:26.085,0:00:28.410 as they get a higher dose[br]than normal people, 0:00:28.434,0:00:30.831 and at the same time,[br]they have no immunity. 0:00:30.855,0:00:34.910 So in the general population, 0:00:34.934,0:00:39.133 it's likely that the dose of virus[br]that you receive when you are infected 0:00:39.157,0:00:42.371 is much less than the dose[br]that a health worker would receive, 0:00:42.395,0:00:44.680 health workers having[br]more serious infections. 0:00:44.704,0:00:47.704 So your infection[br]would be less serious, hopefully. 0:00:47.728,0:00:51.057 So that leaves the elderly[br]and those with comorbidities 0:00:51.081,0:00:53.633 to really be the ones[br]that we have to make sure 0:00:53.657,0:00:55.822 are taken care of in hospitals. 0:00:55.846,0:00:59.863 [Who are the people who should be[br]most concerned about this?] 0:01:00.395,0:01:02.621 Well, the most concerned are people 0:01:02.645,0:01:05.760 who are, first of all,[br]in developing countries, 0:01:05.784,0:01:08.569 and who don't have access[br]to good medical care, 0:01:08.593,0:01:11.292 and may not have access[br]at all to a hospital, 0:01:11.316,0:01:14.450 should an epidemic occur in their country. 0:01:14.474,0:01:16.228 Those people would be at great risk, 0:01:16.252,0:01:17.664 especially the elderly. 0:01:17.688,0:01:20.315 Elderly in all populations are at risk, 0:01:20.339,0:01:23.014 but especially those[br]who can't get to oxygen. 0:01:23.038,0:01:24.670 In industrialized countries, 0:01:24.694,0:01:27.404 it's the very elderly[br]who have comorbidities, 0:01:27.428,0:01:29.682 who have diabetes,[br]who have other diseases, 0:01:29.706,0:01:30.918 who are at risk. 0:01:30.942,0:01:33.959 The general population[br]doesn't appear to be at great risk. 0:01:33.983,0:01:38.126 [What preexisting medical conditions[br]put people at higher risk?] 0:01:38.150,0:01:39.309 First of all, 0:01:39.333,0:01:43.133 pulmonary disease existing[br]as a comorbidity is also important. 0:01:43.157,0:01:45.661 In general, the elderly[br]are at greater risk, 0:01:45.685,0:01:47.768 especially those over 70, 0:01:47.792,0:01:50.860 because their immune systems[br]are not as effective 0:01:50.884,0:01:52.447 as they might have once been, 0:01:52.471,0:01:55.289 and they are more[br]susceptible to infections. 0:01:55.313,0:01:58.773 In addition, in some instances in China, 0:01:58.797,0:02:02.075 there's been a coinfection with influenza 0:02:02.099,0:02:03.258 and at the same time, 0:02:03.282,0:02:05.575 there have been some[br]bacterial superinfections 0:02:05.599,0:02:07.508 on the pneumonias that are occurring. 0:02:07.532,0:02:10.535 [Where can we find[br]up-to-date information?] 0:02:10.559,0:02:13.475 The Center for Disease Control[br]in Atlanta keeps track, 0:02:13.499,0:02:17.213 and has updates on a regular[br]basis on its website. 0:02:17.237,0:02:19.848 Also, the World Health[br]Organization in Geneva, 0:02:19.872,0:02:21.990 which is coordinating many[br]of the activities 0:02:22.014,0:02:23.482 going on internationally, 0:02:23.506,0:02:25.862 also has a website with daily updates. 0:02:25.886,0:02:29.466 It's our responsibility[br]to get that information as individuals, 0:02:29.490,0:02:30.871 so we understand 0:02:30.895,0:02:33.641 and can make sure that we can[br]contribute in our own way 0:02:33.665,0:02:35.665 to prevention of major spread. 0:02:36.011,0:02:38.776 [You led the global response[br]to the SARS outbreak in 2003. 0:02:38.800,0:02:40.384 How does this outbreak compare?] 0:02:40.408,0:02:42.654 That's the same problem[br]with all new infections. 0:02:42.678,0:02:45.210 This is an infection[br]that's coming to humans 0:02:45.234,0:02:48.336 who have never been exposed[br]to this virus before. 0:02:48.360,0:02:50.728 They don't have any antibody protection, 0:02:50.752,0:02:53.282 and it's not clear whether[br]their immune system 0:02:53.306,0:02:55.268 can handle this virus or not. 0:02:55.292,0:02:59.959 This is a virus that usually finds itself[br]in bats or in other animals, 0:02:59.983,0:03:01.800 and all of a sudden, it's in humans. 0:03:01.824,0:03:04.982 And humans just don't have[br]experience with this virus. 0:03:05.006,0:03:06.164 But gradually, 0:03:06.188,0:03:08.997 we are beginning to learn a lot,[br]as we did with SARS. 0:03:09.021,0:03:12.887 And you know, there are certainly[br]a larger number of deaths 0:03:12.911,0:03:14.728 than there were with SARS. 0:03:14.752,0:03:18.950 But when you divide that by a denominator[br]of persons who are infected, 0:03:18.974,0:03:22.236 there are many, many more persons infected[br]than there were with SARS. 0:03:22.577,0:03:24.112 The case fatality ratio, 0:03:24.136,0:03:28.648 that is the ratio of deaths[br]to the numbers of cases in SARS, 0:03:28.672,0:03:30.276 was about 10 percent. 0:03:30.300,0:03:33.355 With the current coronavirus, COVID-19, 0:03:33.379,0:03:36.776 it is two percent or probably less. 0:03:36.800,0:03:39.164 So it's a much less virulent virus, 0:03:39.188,0:03:41.625 but it's still a virus[br]that causes mortality, 0:03:41.649,0:03:44.594 and that's what we don't want[br]entering human populations. 0:03:44.618,0:03:48.383 [Have we responded adequately[br]at border crossings, such as airports?] 0:03:48.407,0:03:52.700 It's clearly understood[br]that airports or any land borders 0:03:52.724,0:03:54.954 cannot prevent a disease from entering. 0:03:54.978,0:03:57.768 People in the incubation period[br]can cross that border, 0:03:57.792,0:03:59.117 can enter countries, 0:03:59.141,0:04:02.315 and can then infect others[br]when they become sick. 0:04:02.339,0:04:08.323 So borders are not a means of preventing[br]infections from entering a country 0:04:08.347,0:04:10.014 by checking temperatures. 0:04:10.355,0:04:14.045 Borders are important because[br]you can provide to people arriving 0:04:14.069,0:04:17.697 from areas that might be at risk[br]of having had infection, 0:04:17.721,0:04:19.776 provide them with an understanding, 0:04:19.800,0:04:22.934 either a printed understanding[br]or a verbal understanding, 0:04:22.958,0:04:25.823 of what the signs and symptoms are[br]of this infection, 0:04:25.847,0:04:29.563 and what they should do[br]if they feel that they might be infected. 0:04:29.587,0:04:32.725 [What's the time line for a vaccine?] 0:04:32.749,0:04:34.813 Vaccines are under development right now, 0:04:34.837,0:04:36.971 there's a lot of research going on. 0:04:36.995,0:04:40.908 That research requires first[br]that the vaccine be developed, 0:04:40.932,0:04:45.330 then that it be studied for safety[br]and effectiveness in animals, 0:04:45.354,0:04:48.861 who are challenged with the virus[br]after they are vaccinated, 0:04:48.885,0:04:51.234 and then it must go into human studies. 0:04:51.258,0:04:53.371 The animal studies have not yet begun, 0:04:53.395,0:04:55.942 but will soon begin for certain vaccines. 0:04:55.966,0:04:58.109 And it's thought[br]that by the end of the year, 0:04:58.133,0:04:59.291 or early next year, 0:04:59.315,0:05:01.738 there may be some candidate vaccines 0:05:01.762,0:05:06.585 that can then be studied for licensing[br]by regulatory agencies. 0:05:06.609,0:05:10.728 So we're talking about at least a year[br]until there's vaccine available 0:05:10.752,0:05:13.314 that can be used in many populations. 0:05:13.338,0:05:16.993 [What questions about the outbreak[br]are still unanswered?] 0:05:17.347,0:05:19.164 It's clear we know how it transmits, 0:05:19.188,0:05:21.827 we don't know how easily[br]it transmits in humans, 0:05:21.851,0:05:26.220 in communities or in unenclosed areas. 0:05:26.244,0:05:27.958 We know, for example, 0:05:27.982,0:05:31.847 that in the enclosed area[br]of a cruise ship, it spread very easily. 0:05:31.871,0:05:33.498 We need to better understand 0:05:33.522,0:05:36.989 how it will spread once it gets[br]into more open areas 0:05:37.013,0:05:40.367 where people are exposed[br]to people who might be sick. 0:05:40.840,0:05:44.486 [What about the global response[br]could be improved?] 0:05:44.510,0:05:48.237 A major problem in the world today[br]is that we look at outbreaks 0:05:48.261,0:05:49.815 in developing countries 0:05:49.839,0:05:52.363 as something that we need to go and stop. 0:05:52.728,0:05:54.506 So when there's an outbreak of Ebola, 0:05:54.530,0:05:57.530 we think, "How can we go[br]and stop this outbreak in the country." 0:05:57.554,0:06:01.117 We don't think about[br]"How can we help that country 0:06:01.141,0:06:03.044 strengthen its capacity 0:06:03.068,0:06:06.629 so that it can detect[br]and respond to infections." 0:06:06.653,0:06:09.098 So we haven't invested enough 0:06:09.122,0:06:13.061 in helping countries develop[br]their core capacity in public health. 0:06:13.411,0:06:17.291 What we've done is invested[br]in many mechanisms globally 0:06:17.315,0:06:20.252 which can provide support[br]to other countries 0:06:20.276,0:06:22.307 to go and help stop outbreaks. 0:06:22.331,0:06:24.569 But we want to see a world[br]where every country 0:06:24.593,0:06:26.810 can do its best to stop its own outbreaks. 0:06:26.834,0:06:29.926 [Will we see more emerging[br]disease outbreaks in the future?] 0:06:29.950,0:06:31.958 Today, there are over[br]seven billion people. 0:06:31.982,0:06:34.022 And when those people come into the world, 0:06:34.046,0:06:35.292 they demand more food, 0:06:35.316,0:06:37.101 they demand a whole series of things, 0:06:37.125,0:06:38.562 and they live closer together. 0:06:38.586,0:06:42.172 In fact, we're in an urban world,[br]where people live in urban areas. 0:06:42.196,0:06:45.105 And at the same time,[br]we're growing more animals, 0:06:45.129,0:06:49.653 and those animals are contributing[br]food to humans as well. 0:06:49.677,0:06:50.828 So what we see 0:06:50.852,0:06:55.776 is that that animal-human interface[br]is becoming closer and closer together. 0:06:55.800,0:06:59.679 And this intensive agriculture of animals, 0:06:59.703,0:07:02.497 and this intensive increase[br]in human populations 0:07:02.521,0:07:04.537 living together on the same planet 0:07:04.561,0:07:09.768 is really a melting pot[br]where outbreaks can occur and do occur. 0:07:09.792,0:07:12.803 We will eventually have[br]more and more of these outbreaks. 0:07:12.827,0:07:16.741 So an emerging infection today[br]is just a warning 0:07:16.765,0:07:18.549 of what will happen in the future. 0:07:18.573,0:07:19.778 We have to make sure 0:07:19.802,0:07:22.855 that that technical[br]collaboration in the world 0:07:22.879,0:07:24.903 is there to work together 0:07:24.927,0:07:28.276 to make sure that we can understand[br]these outbreaks when they occur, 0:07:28.300,0:07:31.867 and rapidly provide the information[br]necessary to control them. 0:07:32.182,0:07:34.431 [Is the worst behind us?] 0:07:34.455,0:07:36.019 I can't predict with accuracy. 0:07:36.043,0:07:39.066 So all I can say[br]is that we must all be prepared 0:07:39.090,0:07:40.950 for the worst-case scenario. 0:07:40.974,0:07:42.617 And at the same time, 0:07:42.641,0:07:45.688 learn how we can protect ourselves[br]and protect others 0:07:45.712,0:07:48.494 should we become a part of that 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