Let me return to
the attack on you,
because this is something
that we know from other times,
in other places.
I mean, it's not just,
you know,
something that the Trump
administration does
that attacking the messenger,
attacking the journalist,
attacking the institution
of journalism,
attacking the Atlantic.
This is a way
this is something that autocrats
and dictators
do in other countries
in order to be able
to create their own reality.
Right?
I mean, they want to say nothing.
Don't believe anybody except me.
You know, ignore Jeff Goldberg.
He's a he's
a scumbag
and a loser and a sleazebag.
You know, only listen to our
into what we are saying.
Do you think that by publishing
the texts,
you injected
that little dose of reality
into the conversation?
Their goal, the goal of people
who are authoritarian
minded is to force compliance,
right?
They can only do
what they want to do if no one
fights them,
if no one argues with them,
if no one counters it.
And so if you have a,
if you have a dose of reality
that you can inject
into the system,
into the cognitive system
of the United States, well,
then you should
you should do it
because they're counting on people
not doing it.
So Mike Wolf
calls you a loser on TV.
Implies that you're,
you know, that you've
somehow mysteriously made
your phone number
appear on his telephone.
Yeah, it was using my brain.
That's right, that's right.
Yeah. You know. So.
So how does that
work in your brain?
So you're accused of these
very bad things,
and and
you're meant to be intimidated,
and you're meant to say,
you're right, your Honor.
We won't publish anything.
Yeah, well, I mean, he could.
Mike Wallace can call me a loser
if he wants,
but at least I know how to text.