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Let me return to

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the attack on you,

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because this is something

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that we know from other times,

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in other places.

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I mean, it's not just,

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you know,

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something that the Trump

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administration does

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that attacking the messenger,

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attacking the journalist,

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attacking the institution

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of journalism,

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attacking the Atlantic.

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This is a way

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this is something that autocrats

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and dictators

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do in other countries

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in order to be able

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to create their own reality.

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Right?

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I mean, they want to say nothing.

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Don't believe anybody except me.

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You know, ignore Jeff Goldberg.

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He's a he's

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a scumbag

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and a loser and a sleazebag.

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You know, only listen to our

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into what we are saying.

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Do you think that by publishing

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the texts,

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you injected

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that little dose of reality

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into the conversation?

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Their goal, the goal of people

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who are authoritarian

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minded is to force compliance,

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right?

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They can only do

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what they want to do if no one

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fights them,

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if no one argues with them,

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if no one counters it.

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And so if you have a,

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if you have a dose of reality

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that you can inject

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into the system,

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into the cognitive system

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of the United States, well,

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then you should

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you should do it

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because they're counting on people

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not doing it.

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So Mike Wolf

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calls you a loser on TV.

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Implies that you're,

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you know, that you've

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somehow mysteriously made

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your phone number

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appear on his telephone.

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Yeah, it was using my brain.

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That's right, that's right.

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Yeah. You know. So.

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So how does that

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work in your brain?

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So you're accused of these

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very bad things,

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and and

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you're meant to be intimidated,

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and you're meant to say,

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you're right, your Honor.

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We won't publish anything.

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Yeah, well, I mean, he could.

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Mike Wallace can call me a loser

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if he wants,

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but at least I know how to text.