1 00:00:12,634 --> 00:00:14,511 Why make art? 2 00:00:14,511 --> 00:00:16,388 What do you find by doing it? 3 00:00:16,388 --> 00:00:18,115 What does it get you? 4 00:00:19,757 --> 00:00:22,245 I always wanted an alternative existence, 5 00:00:22,245 --> 00:00:23,914 and by that I mean I wanted to do something 6 00:00:23,914 --> 00:00:29,642 where I could study my own sentiments and experiences. 7 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:35,785 And I found that I could do that in relation to making things and making art in particular. 8 00:00:36,115 --> 00:00:37,863 And I did it since I was a kid, 9 00:00:37,863 --> 00:00:39,785 and it was a place that I always could go to, 10 00:00:39,785 --> 00:00:46,072 that I could concentrate and deal with problems 11 00:00:46,072 --> 00:00:48,391 that I thought were of interest to me. 12 00:00:49,331 --> 00:00:51,411 And, if I was clear enough about 13 00:00:53,777 --> 00:00:59,642 what it was that I was probing and stayed with the premise of what I was probing, 14 00:00:59,642 --> 00:01:02,669 it was possible that it could also be clear to someone else. 15 00:01:03,489 --> 00:01:07,233 And it was important that it not be something that somebody else had done. 16 00:01:08,828 --> 00:01:10,721 I think one of the things art does is 17 00:01:10,721 --> 00:01:15,725 it asks you to perceive what it is on its own level. 18 00:01:15,916 --> 00:01:18,086 And it can come up and grab you at any time. 19 00:01:18,254 --> 00:01:19,591 It can be reassuring. 20 00:01:19,591 --> 00:01:21,752 It could be exactly the opposite. 21 00:01:21,752 --> 00:01:23,142 It could agitate you. 22 00:01:23,142 --> 00:01:24,832 It could be something you dismiss. 23 00:01:24,832 --> 00:01:26,768 It could be something that engages you. 24 00:01:26,768 --> 00:01:28,470 It could be something you recall. 25 00:01:28,470 --> 00:01:30,000 It could be something that leads to things 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,134 that have nothing to do with what you're looking at. 27 00:01:32,664 --> 00:01:35,777 So, I think, works of art engage, possibly, 28 00:01:35,777 --> 00:01:39,453 an internal memory bank that isn't linear, 29 00:01:39,453 --> 00:01:43,199 and it can make you see the outside reality in that way, also. 30 00:01:43,277 --> 00:01:46,434 Like, you probably see the world 31 00:01:47,054 --> 00:01:49,663 in ways that you would not have seen it 32 00:01:49,663 --> 00:01:52,855 if those artists had not existed. 33 00:01:52,855 --> 00:01:55,216 And do I think that Cézanne changed 34 00:01:55,216 --> 00:01:59,877 how people saw a landscape in France in the last century, for sure. 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,059 Do I think Warhol changed how we see contemporary society through painting, 36 00:02:06,059 --> 00:02:09,721 through the media-ization of, the commodification of objects? 37 00:02:09,721 --> 00:02:10,398 For sure. 38 00:02:10,534 --> 00:02:12,611 And you can just go through the history of art that way, 39 00:02:12,611 --> 00:02:14,943 and immediately you conjure up something 40 00:02:14,943 --> 00:02:17,730 that you, yourself, could not have expressed, 41 00:02:17,730 --> 00:02:20,639 and it fulfills in each of us something we lack.