WEBVTT 00:00:12.634 --> 00:00:14.511 Why make art? 00:00:14.511 --> 00:00:16.388 What do you find by doing it? 00:00:16.388 --> 00:00:18.385 What does it get you? 00:00:20.047 --> 00:00:22.675 I always wanted an alternative existence, 00:00:22.675 --> 00:00:23.731 and by that I mean I wanted to do something 00:00:23.731 --> 00:00:26.413 where I could study my own 00:00:26.929 --> 00:00:28.924 sentiments and experiences. 00:00:29.289 --> 00:00:31.708 And I found that I could do that 00:00:31.708 --> 00:00:33.225 in relation to making things 00:00:33.225 --> 00:00:35.097 and making art in particular. 00:00:35.785 --> 00:00:37.453 And I did it since I was a kid, 00:00:37.453 --> 00:00:39.065 and it was a place that I always could go to, 00:00:39.065 --> 00:00:40.808 that I could concentrate and 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:46.444 deal with problems 00:00:46.444 --> 00:00:49.121 that I thought were of interest to me. 00:00:49.121 --> 00:00:51.878 And, if I was clear enough about 00:00:53.427 --> 00:00:56.430 what it was that I was probing 00:00:56.430 --> 00:00:58.140 and stayed with the premise 00:00:58.140 --> 00:00:59.642 of what I was probing, 00:00:59.642 --> 00:01:01.099 it was possible that it could also 00:01:01.099 --> 00:01:02.973 be clear to someone else. 00:01:03.489 --> 00:01:05.533 And it was important that it not be 00:01:05.533 --> 00:01:07.709 something that somebody else had done. 00:01:08.828 --> 00:01:10.830 I think one of the things art does is it 00:01:10.830 --> 00:01:14.375 asks you to perceive what it is 00:01:14.375 --> 00:01:15.916 on its own level. 00:01:15.916 --> 00:01:18.086 And it can come up and grab you at any time. 00:01:18.254 --> 00:01:19.881 It can be reassuring. 00:01:19.881 --> 00:01:21.752 It could be exactly the opposite. 00:01:21.752 --> 00:01:23.142 It could agitate you. 00:01:23.142 --> 00:01:24.456 It could be something you dismiss. 00:01:24.456 --> 00:01:26.268 It could be something that engages you. 00:01:26.268 --> 00:01:28.470 It could be something you recall. 00:01:28.470 --> 00:01:30.000 It could be something that leads to things 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:30.928 that have nothing to do 00:01:30.928 --> 00:01:32.134 with what you're looking at. 00:01:32.134 --> 00:01:36.096 So, I think, works of art engage, possibly, 00:01:36.096 --> 00:01:38.144 an internal memory bank 00:01:38.144 --> 00:01:40.769 that isn't linear, and it can make you see 00:01:40.769 --> 00:01:42.977 the outside reality in that way, also. 00:01:42.977 --> 00:01:46.434 Like, you probably see the world 00:01:46.434 --> 00:01:49.103 in ways that you would not have seen it 00:01:49.189 --> 00:01:52.609 if those artists had not existed. 00:01:52.695 --> 00:01:55.031 And do I think that Cézanne changed 00:01:55.031 --> 00:01:57.987 how people saw a landscape in France 00:01:58.073 --> 00:01:59.908 in the last century? For sure. 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.753 Do I think Warhol changed how we see 00:02:02.833 --> 00:02:05.711 contemporary society through painting, 00:02:05.734 --> 00:02:07.861 through the media-ization of, 00:02:07.861 --> 00:02:10.168 the commodification of objects? For sure. 00:02:10.234 --> 00:02:11.540 And you can just go through 00:02:11.540 --> 00:02:12.611 the history of art that way, 00:02:12.611 --> 00:02:16.073 and immediately you conjure up something that 00:02:16.134 --> 00:02:17.730 you, yourself, could not have expressed, 00:02:17.841 --> 00:02:20.639 and it fulfills in each of us something we lack.