1 00:00:12,634 --> 00:00:14,511 Why make art? 2 00:00:14,511 --> 00:00:16,388 What do you find by doing it? 3 00:00:16,388 --> 00:00:18,385 What does it get you? 4 00:00:20,047 --> 00:00:22,675 I always wanted an alternative existence, 5 00:00:22,675 --> 00:00:23,731 and by that I mean I wanted to do something 6 00:00:23,731 --> 00:00:26,413 where I could study my own 7 00:00:26,929 --> 00:00:28,924 sentiments and experiences. 8 00:00:29,289 --> 00:00:31,708 And I found that I could do that 9 00:00:31,708 --> 00:00:33,225 in relation to making things 10 00:00:33,225 --> 00:00:35,097 and making art in particular. 11 00:00:35,785 --> 00:00:37,453 And I did it since I was a kid, 12 00:00:37,453 --> 00:00:39,065 and it was a place that I always could go to, 13 00:00:39,065 --> 00:00:40,808 that I could concentrate and 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,444 deal with problems 15 00:00:46,444 --> 00:00:49,121 that I thought were of interest to me. 16 00:00:49,121 --> 00:00:51,878 And, if I was clear enough about 17 00:00:53,427 --> 00:00:56,430 what it was that I was probing 18 00:00:56,430 --> 00:00:58,140 and stayed with the premise 19 00:00:58,140 --> 00:00:59,642 of what I was probing, 20 00:00:59,642 --> 00:01:01,099 it was possible that it could also 21 00:01:01,099 --> 00:01:02,973 be clear to someone else. 22 00:01:03,489 --> 00:01:05,533 And it was important that it not be 23 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:07,709 something that somebody else had done. 24 00:01:08,828 --> 00:01:10,830 I think one of the things art does is it 25 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:14,375 asks you to perceive what it is 26 00:01:14,375 --> 00:01:15,916 on its own level. 27 00:01:15,916 --> 00:01:18,086 And it can come up and grab you at any time. 28 00:01:18,254 --> 00:01:19,881 It can be reassuring. 29 00:01:19,881 --> 00:01:21,752 It could be exactly the opposite. 30 00:01:21,752 --> 00:01:23,142 It could agitate you. 31 00:01:23,142 --> 00:01:24,456 It could be something you dismiss. 32 00:01:24,456 --> 00:01:26,268 It could be something that engages you. 33 00:01:26,268 --> 00:01:28,470 It could be something you recall. 34 00:01:28,470 --> 00:01:30,000 It could be something that leads to things 35 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,928 that have nothing to do 36 00:01:30,928 --> 00:01:32,134 with what you're looking at. 37 00:01:32,134 --> 00:01:36,096 So, I think, works of art engage, possibly, 38 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:38,144 an internal memory bank 39 00:01:38,144 --> 00:01:40,769 that isn't linear, and it can make you see 40 00:01:40,769 --> 00:01:42,977 the outside reality in that way, also. 41 00:01:42,977 --> 00:01:46,434 Like, you probably see the world 42 00:01:46,434 --> 00:01:49,103 in ways that you would not have seen it 43 00:01:49,189 --> 00:01:52,609 if those artists had not existed. 44 00:01:52,695 --> 00:01:55,031 And do I think that Cézanne changed 45 00:01:55,031 --> 00:01:57,987 how people saw a landscape in France 46 00:01:58,073 --> 00:01:59,908 in the last century? For sure. 47 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,753 Do I think Warhol changed how we see 48 00:02:02,833 --> 00:02:05,711 contemporary society through painting, 49 00:02:05,734 --> 00:02:07,861 through the media-ization of, 50 00:02:07,861 --> 00:02:10,168 the commodification of objects? For sure. 51 00:02:10,234 --> 00:02:11,540 And you can just go through 52 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:12,611 the history of art that way, 53 00:02:12,611 --> 00:02:16,073 and immediately you conjure up something that 54 00:02:16,134 --> 00:02:17,730 you, yourself, could not have expressed, 55 00:02:17,841 --> 00:02:20,639 and it fulfills in each of us something we lack.