WEBVTT 00:00:16.453 --> 00:00:17.702 This weekend, 00:00:17.702 --> 00:00:20.913 South Africans all over the world 00:00:20.913 --> 00:00:24.154 are celebrating twenty years of our democracy. 00:00:24.154 --> 00:00:26.081 Excuse-me if I get a little emotional, 00:00:26.081 --> 00:00:27.655 because I'm celebrating with you. 00:00:27.655 --> 00:00:30.343 I'm not back home, with my friends and my team, 00:00:30.343 --> 00:00:32.290 but I'm here with you today, 00:00:32.290 --> 00:00:34.296 and I hope all of you will celebrate 00:00:34.296 --> 00:00:36.836 our twenty years of democracy. 00:00:37.686 --> 00:00:41.932 (Applause) 00:00:45.602 --> 00:00:48.029 When I was a teenager, twenty years ago, 00:00:48.029 --> 00:00:50.541 my sister and I, on this very day, 00:00:50.541 --> 00:00:53.516 were preparing, very busily, a lot of food 00:00:53.516 --> 00:00:56.763 for the thousands of people that were going to be casting their vote 00:00:56.763 --> 00:00:59.140 for the first time in South Africa's history, 00:00:59.140 --> 00:01:02.822 the first time hundreds and thousands of South Africans 00:01:02.822 --> 00:01:04.206 were going to vote. 00:01:04.206 --> 00:01:08.518 And 67% of South Africa's voting population 00:01:08.518 --> 00:01:11.756 voted for Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela, 00:01:11.756 --> 00:01:14.826 fondly known to us as Madiba. 00:01:14.826 --> 00:01:19.607 I met Madiba soon after he became president of South Africa. 00:01:19.607 --> 00:01:23.127 I met him at Chief Albert Lutuli's house, in Groutville. 00:01:23.127 --> 00:01:24.988 I lived close by. 00:01:24.988 --> 00:01:26.885 And we talked about travel. 00:01:26.885 --> 00:01:28.610 We talked about his favourite food, 00:01:28.610 --> 00:01:30.932 which is beans, by the way. 00:01:30.932 --> 00:01:34.172 And we talked about me wanting to be a designer, 00:01:34.172 --> 00:01:36.944 and he told me about him studying law. 00:01:36.944 --> 00:01:40.125 He said to me that it was very important for him to study law 00:01:40.125 --> 00:01:41.766 and to know everything about it, 00:01:41.766 --> 00:01:45.545 so he could change it for South Africa. 00:01:45.545 --> 00:01:47.152 And so, as I grew older, 00:01:47.152 --> 00:01:50.122 I started to reflect on this time with Mandela, 00:01:50.122 --> 00:01:53.503 because he also told me -- which I didn't quite understand at the time, 00:01:53.503 --> 00:01:55.935 because I thought we were a free nation, 00:01:55.935 --> 00:01:58.602 back then, in 1994 -- 00:01:58.602 --> 00:01:59.821 but he reminded me, 00:01:59.821 --> 00:02:02.712 he said that a lot of work still needed to be done. 00:02:02.712 --> 00:02:04.824 And he said, "You wanted to be a designer? 00:02:04.824 --> 00:02:06.764 We need designers. 00:02:06.764 --> 00:02:09.614 We need so many people to do so much more." 00:02:09.614 --> 00:02:11.928 Because he was saying to me that our democracy 00:02:11.928 --> 00:02:14.628 was only a part of the journey to freedom. 00:02:14.628 --> 00:02:16.230 I didn't understand it then. 00:02:16.230 --> 00:02:19.158 And so, recently, I've been reflecting a lot about this, 00:02:19.158 --> 00:02:20.497 about what he meant. 00:02:20.497 --> 00:02:23.468 And I started to think about what I do with my life, 00:02:23.468 --> 00:02:25.900 and how I've been... 00:02:25.900 --> 00:02:28.254 maybe, what sacrifices have I been making? 00:02:28.254 --> 00:02:30.630 You know, Madiba made so many sacrifices, 00:02:30.630 --> 00:02:32.852 alongside so many other people. 00:02:32.852 --> 00:02:35.515 And I wondered, what was I doing? 00:02:35.515 --> 00:02:38.743 And so, when he died, last December, 00:02:38.743 --> 00:02:41.025 I started to think about everything in my life: 00:02:41.025 --> 00:02:43.447 my personal relationships, my work. 00:02:43.447 --> 00:02:45.174 And I often would say to myself, 00:02:45.174 --> 00:02:47.257 even in my darkest hour: 00:02:47.257 --> 00:02:49.654 "What would Madiba do?" 00:02:49.654 --> 00:02:52.971 You know, I come from a family that is a bit of a mixed bag. 00:02:52.971 --> 00:02:55.619 We lived in tropical KwaZulu-Natal, 00:02:55.619 --> 00:02:59.274 which is the province on the North East coast, 00:02:59.274 --> 00:03:01.608 North East of South Africa. 00:03:01.608 --> 00:03:03.232 I come from a small town, 00:03:03.232 --> 00:03:07.589 and my mom is Persian, 00:03:07.589 --> 00:03:10.808 and her mom is from Rangoon, in Burma. 00:03:10.808 --> 00:03:13.168 And she's got flaming red hair, 00:03:13.168 --> 00:03:15.838 a freckled face and amber eyes. 00:03:15.838 --> 00:03:19.851 And my dad, he's South African of Indian descent. 00:03:19.851 --> 00:03:23.578 His family has been in South Africa for four generations. 00:03:23.578 --> 00:03:28.174 In our home, we spoke Gujarathi, and English, and isiZulu, 00:03:28.174 --> 00:03:31.559 and we recited poetry in Arabic and Urdu. 00:03:31.559 --> 00:03:33.380 So, we had a very colourful life. 00:03:33.380 --> 00:03:36.611 Our home was very colourful, it was loud, full of debates, 00:03:36.611 --> 00:03:38.954 and singing, and prayer. 00:03:38.954 --> 00:03:41.583 And it was a happy childhood. 00:03:41.583 --> 00:03:44.989 But outside, I knew that we were living a time of apartheid, 00:03:44.989 --> 00:03:46.851 which was dark and gloomy. 00:03:46.851 --> 00:03:49.409 It was a very ugly time in South Africa. 00:03:49.409 --> 00:03:54.799 And I became aware, as a young girl, about apartheid, 00:03:54.799 --> 00:03:58.388 because we were living in the Southern tip of Africa, 00:03:58.388 --> 00:04:01.272 but I had to live in an Indians-only area, 00:04:01.272 --> 00:04:04.293 and I had to go to an Indians-only school. 00:04:04.293 --> 00:04:08.884 And every day, every moment, we had to classify ourselves, 00:04:08.884 --> 00:04:10.422 we had to fill out forms, 00:04:10.422 --> 00:04:12.720 always justifying who we were. 00:04:12.720 --> 00:04:14.277 And we had these forms that were 00:04:14.277 --> 00:04:15.934 "Engli..." Excuse-me, 00:04:15.934 --> 00:04:18.003 "White", "Black", "Indian" and "Coloured". 00:04:18.003 --> 00:04:20.476 And, sometimes, there would be "Other". 00:04:20.476 --> 00:04:22.391 And I always ticked the "Other". 00:04:22.391 --> 00:04:24.540 My dad was very frustrated. 00:04:24.540 --> 00:04:26.251 And my dad loved to fish, you know. 00:04:26.251 --> 00:04:27.442 He was quite a fisherman, 00:04:27.442 --> 00:04:29.537 and so, we spent a lot of time on the beach. 00:04:29.537 --> 00:04:31.511 We lived close to the Indian Ocean. 00:04:31.511 --> 00:04:33.511 And I used to join my dad. 00:04:33.511 --> 00:04:34.993 I don't think I was of any use, 00:04:34.993 --> 00:04:37.471 but I went with him anyway. 00:04:37.471 --> 00:04:39.892 On this one occasion, we got kicked off the beach. 00:04:39.892 --> 00:04:41.895 Not very kindly, I might add. 00:04:41.895 --> 00:04:45.356 And I asked my dad, I said, "Why are we getting kicked off the beach?" 00:04:45.356 --> 00:04:47.983 And he said, "Zahira, we are Indian. 00:04:47.983 --> 00:04:50.000 We're not allowed to be on this beach." 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:51.776 I said, "But dad, I learned at school 00:04:51.776 --> 00:04:53.918 that this is the Indian Ocean. 00:04:53.918 --> 00:04:56.493 I thought you owned the beach!" (Laughter) 00:04:56.493 --> 00:04:57.936 And so, as a young girl, 00:04:57.936 --> 00:05:01.358 I started to notice that something wasn't right. 00:05:01.358 --> 00:05:02.872 And I didn't feel nice. 00:05:02.872 --> 00:05:05.862 I didn't feel nice about what was happening. 00:05:05.862 --> 00:05:07.682 I realized that what was in my home 00:05:07.682 --> 00:05:10.646 was colourful, it was expansive. 00:05:10.646 --> 00:05:13.289 What was outside was gloomy 00:05:13.289 --> 00:05:14.776 and it was diminishing. 00:05:14.776 --> 00:05:17.937 It was the dull times of apartheid. 00:05:17.937 --> 00:05:22.266 And my family, like most South African people, 00:05:22.266 --> 00:05:26.070 lived a life of awkward indignity. 00:05:26.070 --> 00:05:29.582 We accepted very quietly our circumstances, 00:05:29.582 --> 00:05:32.322 and it seemed also that the darker you got, 00:05:32.322 --> 00:05:34.254 the worst you were treated. 00:05:34.254 --> 00:05:36.461 We lived on the periphery of society, 00:05:36.461 --> 00:05:40.133 with very little access to economic opportunity. 00:05:40.133 --> 00:05:41.339 And so, as I grew older, 00:05:41.339 --> 00:05:44.631 I became very socially and politically conscious. 00:05:44.631 --> 00:05:47.068 I learned, while I was a teenager, 00:05:47.068 --> 00:05:49.767 that Mandela was incarcerated, 00:05:49.767 --> 00:05:51.623 and I learned why. 00:05:51.623 --> 00:05:53.439 I learned that Chief Albert Luthuli -- 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:54.860 who was our family friend 00:05:54.860 --> 00:05:56.574 and who had lived in our family home 00:05:56.574 --> 00:05:59.446 for several months when he was under house arrest -- 00:05:59.446 --> 00:06:02.508 when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1960, 00:06:02.508 --> 00:06:06.170 he had to be given "honorary white membership", 00:06:06.170 --> 00:06:07.474 or "honorary white status", 00:06:07.474 --> 00:06:11.412 just to travel to receive this prize. 00:06:11.412 --> 00:06:14.612 I also learned that my uncle, Professor Kader Asmal, 00:06:14.612 --> 00:06:17.082 was in exile for 37 years, 00:06:17.082 --> 00:06:19.503 and he was living in Ireland. 00:06:19.503 --> 00:06:22.894 And he was in exile because he was one of the founders 00:06:22.894 --> 00:06:25.903 of the anti-apartheid movement in Europe. 00:06:25.903 --> 00:06:28.898 So, I also learned that our phones were tapped. 00:06:28.898 --> 00:06:32.290 Our house was visited by National Party officials 00:06:32.290 --> 00:06:34.780 and my family was interrogated constantly 00:06:34.780 --> 00:06:38.352 about my uncle's activities while in exile. 00:06:38.352 --> 00:06:40.320 So, the government thought at the time 00:06:40.320 --> 00:06:43.608 that my uncle should have been locked up with Mandela. 00:06:43.608 --> 00:06:45.523 In those days, a group of black people 00:06:45.523 --> 00:06:47.361 was considered an illegal protest, 00:06:47.361 --> 00:06:50.578 instead of a social gathering and a party. 00:06:50.578 --> 00:06:52.278 There was the Group Areas Act -- 00:06:52.278 --> 00:06:55.015 yeah, we had an act every so many years, 00:06:55.015 --> 00:06:57.159 to restrain us and restrict us. 00:06:57.159 --> 00:06:58.607 There was the Group Areas Act, 00:06:58.607 --> 00:07:02.748 where we were forced to live with people of our own race. 00:07:02.748 --> 00:07:05.789 Some of us were even forcibly removed from our homes 00:07:05.789 --> 00:07:07.572 and made to live in squalor, 00:07:07.572 --> 00:07:10.329 on the periphery of the cities. 00:07:10.329 --> 00:07:11.952 There was the Bantu Education Act, 00:07:11.952 --> 00:07:13.716 that limited people's education, 00:07:13.716 --> 00:07:15.922 black people's education, 00:07:15.922 --> 00:07:19.050 hence perpetuating their persecution. 00:07:19.050 --> 00:07:20.612 There was the Land Act, 00:07:20.612 --> 00:07:24.762 that made it impossible for us to own land in South Africa. 00:07:24.762 --> 00:07:27.667 And my favourite was the Immorality Act, 00:07:27.667 --> 00:07:31.990 which made it illegal to love someone of another race. 00:07:33.170 --> 00:07:36.962 Students all over the country in South Africa, 00:07:36.962 --> 00:07:39.710 in the 1970's, were being killed 00:07:39.710 --> 00:07:41.869 by the South African Defence Force. 00:07:41.869 --> 00:07:45.738 They were "protesting": they didn't want to study Afrikaans. 00:07:45.738 --> 00:07:48.707 Black people all over the country were being killed. 00:07:48.707 --> 00:07:51.176 They were "protesting": 00:07:51.176 --> 00:07:53.339 they didn't want to use passbooks 00:07:53.339 --> 00:07:56.827 that limited their movement around the country. 00:07:56.827 --> 00:07:58.904 We all wanted to be free. 00:07:58.904 --> 00:08:01.322 But I realized, at that time, 00:08:01.322 --> 00:08:04.256 that no one was free: 00:08:04.256 --> 00:08:08.018 not the victims, nor the persecutors. 00:08:08.018 --> 00:08:10.910 We were slaves of colonial masters; 00:08:10.910 --> 00:08:13.857 our cultures, considered unsophisticated. 00:08:13.857 --> 00:08:16.571 We had to use back entrances to restaurants, 00:08:16.571 --> 00:08:19.430 if we were allowed in the first place. 00:08:19.430 --> 00:08:24.103 We were forbidden to visit many parts of South Africa. 00:08:24.103 --> 00:08:25.495 Can you imagine? 00:08:25.495 --> 00:08:27.960 All this space in a beautiful country, 00:08:27.960 --> 00:08:30.470 and we couldn't access it. 00:08:30.470 --> 00:08:34.529 I protested because I believed there was better. 00:08:34.529 --> 00:08:36.192 I wished to be free, 00:08:36.192 --> 00:08:38.470 not only to move around the country 00:08:38.470 --> 00:08:40.185 and see beautiful things, 00:08:40.185 --> 00:08:42.792 but also to be free to express myself, 00:08:42.792 --> 00:08:44.765 and to just be me. 00:08:44.765 --> 00:08:46.652 I wanted my colour, my culture, 00:08:46.652 --> 00:08:50.783 my heritage, my language to matter like anyone else's. 00:08:50.783 --> 00:08:53.832 Or not to matter, if it didn't matter. 00:08:54.902 --> 00:08:56.953 I didn't want to live in fear. 00:08:56.953 --> 00:08:59.348 I remember too that we were called South Africans, 00:08:59.348 --> 00:09:01.048 but we didn't know what that meant. 00:09:01.048 --> 00:09:03.951 We were so harshly excluded from activities, 00:09:03.951 --> 00:09:06.179 important activities in South Africa -- 00:09:06.179 --> 00:09:08.329 "How can we be called South African?" 00:09:08.329 --> 00:09:10.856 It just wasn't possible. 00:09:10.856 --> 00:09:13.259 So, this time in South Africa's history 00:09:13.259 --> 00:09:16.720 was so painful for so many people 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:21.092 that some can't speak about it even today. 00:09:21.092 --> 00:09:23.422 So, I wondered then, twenty years on, 00:09:23.422 --> 00:09:25.863 "What does freedom mean to us?" 00:09:25.863 --> 00:09:29.876 I feel free, I feel free now, 00:09:29.876 --> 00:09:32.812 and I don't take my freedom for granted. 00:09:32.812 --> 00:09:34.878 I know what it felt like before, 00:09:34.878 --> 00:09:36.994 and I never want to feel it again. 00:09:36.994 --> 00:09:39.596 I don't even wish anyone else to feel what I felt, 00:09:39.596 --> 00:09:43.124 as a young girl, living in South Africa. 00:09:43.124 --> 00:09:45.293 And so, I engaged with my freedom 00:09:45.293 --> 00:09:48.980 every single day and every moment of my life. 00:09:48.980 --> 00:09:52.729 And so, my friends and my colleagues call me an activist. 00:09:52.729 --> 00:09:54.359 Some of them say to me, 00:09:54.359 --> 00:09:56.924 "Your conversations about apartheid 00:09:56.924 --> 00:10:00.169 make me feel a little uncomfortable." 00:10:00.169 --> 00:10:01.753 And I say to this, 00:10:01.753 --> 00:10:04.558 "If you're feeling a little uncomfortable now, 00:10:04.558 --> 00:10:08.668 imagine what it felt like in reality." 00:10:08.668 --> 00:10:10.176 Some of them say to me, 00:10:10.176 --> 00:10:13.742 "Get over apartheid, Zahira. It's over." 00:10:13.742 --> 00:10:15.428 And I say, "Apartheid isn't over, 00:10:15.428 --> 00:10:17.479 if so many South Africans are still living 00:10:17.479 --> 00:10:19.625 with these harsh realities." 00:10:19.625 --> 00:10:22.380 And then, some of my friends and colleagues say to me, 00:10:22.380 --> 00:10:25.321 "Zahira, with your work and what you do, why do you bother? 00:10:25.321 --> 00:10:27.620 Do something else more fun." 00:10:28.920 --> 00:10:32.597 And I say: "Madiba reminded us 00:10:32.597 --> 00:10:35.809 that the hard work is not done yet. 00:10:35.809 --> 00:10:40.300 And besides, imagine if Madiba had to say, 'Why bother?' 00:10:40.300 --> 00:10:43.699 Where would that leave South Africa today?" 00:10:43.699 --> 00:10:47.346 So, I wonder, in countries like South Africa and Brazil, 00:10:47.346 --> 00:10:49.942 what does freedom mean to us? 00:10:49.942 --> 00:10:52.012 Both Brazil and South Africa 00:10:52.012 --> 00:10:54.690 have the worst GD coefficient in the world. 00:10:54.690 --> 00:10:57.632 In social economic terms, that means that our countries, 00:10:57.632 --> 00:11:00.106 our societies are the most divided. 00:11:00.106 --> 00:11:04.079 So divided, in fact, that they probably will never meet. 00:11:04.079 --> 00:11:07.464 In Brazil, and allow me to say, 00:11:07.464 --> 00:11:10.007 some of your buildings have two separate entrances, 00:11:10.007 --> 00:11:11.772 (Portuguese) "Service" and "Social". 00:11:11.772 --> 00:11:15.274 In fact, most of the buildings I went to in São Paulo have this! 00:11:15.274 --> 00:11:17.131 This is unacceptable! 00:11:17.131 --> 00:11:19.756 This is two separate entrances for people! 00:11:19.756 --> 00:11:22.684 This reminds me of my childhood in apartheid! 00:11:22.684 --> 00:11:24.756 Dangerously close. 00:11:24.756 --> 00:11:28.156 And the designers in this room: change that! 00:11:28.156 --> 00:11:32.842 (Applause) 00:11:34.397 --> 00:11:37.845 Too many South Africans are living bellow the red line. 00:11:37.845 --> 00:11:40.759 Too many South Africans are living without education. 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.960 And too many South Africans are living without dignity. 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:45.680 That is unacceptable. 00:11:45.680 --> 00:11:48.030 So, with thirty years of democracy in Brazil 00:11:48.030 --> 00:11:50.294 and twenty years of democracy in South Africa, 00:11:50.294 --> 00:11:52.633 what does it actually mean for us? 00:11:53.453 --> 00:11:55.351 The challenges facing our democracy 00:11:55.351 --> 00:11:57.935 should be seen as opportunities, 00:11:57.935 --> 00:11:59.751 not -- excuse-me -- 00:11:59.751 --> 00:12:01.680 and processes of engagement, 00:12:01.680 --> 00:12:03.733 and not problems to be solved. 00:12:03.733 --> 00:12:06.580 People are not problems. 00:12:06.580 --> 00:12:10.645 Through my work, I discovered in South Africa 00:12:10.645 --> 00:12:15.063 things that have equally warmed my heart 00:12:15.063 --> 00:12:17.983 and things that have made my hair stand on end. 00:12:17.983 --> 00:12:20.820 I have seen people live with such dire -- 00:12:20.820 --> 00:12:23.612 in such dire conditions and circumstances, 00:12:23.612 --> 00:12:25.936 that it made me so sad 00:12:25.936 --> 00:12:28.418 that even my own circumstances as a child 00:12:28.418 --> 00:12:30.157 paled in comparison. 00:12:30.157 --> 00:12:32.604 Yet, these people -- the thing that warmed my heart 00:12:32.604 --> 00:12:34.673 was that they had so much hope 00:12:34.673 --> 00:12:36.798 that there was going to be a better life. 00:12:36.798 --> 00:12:40.006 If not for them, for their children and grandchildren. 00:12:40.006 --> 00:12:44.535 They still have the hope that Madiba gave them 00:12:44.535 --> 00:12:46.114 all those years ago: 00:12:46.114 --> 00:12:48.781 that, through our freedom and through our democracy, 00:12:48.781 --> 00:12:51.366 a better life will come to them. 00:12:52.086 --> 00:12:54.189 And so, I realize at these moments, 00:12:54.189 --> 00:12:55.898 when meeting these beautiful people 00:12:55.898 --> 00:12:58.638 that share their lives with me so generously -- 00:12:58.638 --> 00:13:02.449 yet they have absolutely nothing -- 00:13:03.189 --> 00:13:06.790 I remember and recall Madiba's words to me 00:13:06.790 --> 00:13:12.034 about the journey through freedom and emancipation 00:13:12.034 --> 00:13:14.851 only started then, with our democracy. 00:13:14.851 --> 00:13:18.569 So, freedom has to be negotiated, constantly. 00:13:18.569 --> 00:13:22.020 And freedom has to be demonstrated, always. 00:13:22.020 --> 00:13:25.967 But most of all, freedom needs to be shared. 00:13:25.967 --> 00:13:28.677 For those of us with political freedom, 00:13:28.677 --> 00:13:31.954 make certain that your governance policies 00:13:31.954 --> 00:13:35.033 have the interest of all people at heart. 00:13:35.033 --> 00:13:37.425 For those of us with economic freedom, 00:13:37.425 --> 00:13:40.464 make certain that all people have homes, 00:13:40.464 --> 00:13:43.273 that all people have access to quality services 00:13:43.273 --> 00:13:46.605 and have access to education and learning. 00:13:46.605 --> 00:13:49.087 For those of us with social freedom, 00:13:49.087 --> 00:13:52.670 make certain you free yourself from hatred, 00:13:52.670 --> 00:13:55.489 anger and jealousy. 00:13:55.489 --> 00:13:58.338 Madiba reminds us that love 00:13:58.338 --> 00:14:02.380 comes more naturally to the human heart. 00:14:02.380 --> 00:14:04.228 Freedom isn't a competition, 00:14:04.228 --> 00:14:07.639 and nor is it a race with a finishing line. 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:09.701 Our freedom should be like a relay: 00:14:09.701 --> 00:14:12.500 we should pass it on to others. 00:14:12.500 --> 00:14:13.841 So, I want all of us today, 00:14:13.841 --> 00:14:17.732 while celebrating South Africa's twenty years of democracy, 00:14:17.732 --> 00:14:19.535 that we should consider our lives, 00:14:19.535 --> 00:14:22.116 we should consider our work. 00:14:22.116 --> 00:14:25.234 Be sure to engage with your freedom, actively. 00:14:25.234 --> 00:14:27.764 Be that activist! 00:14:27.764 --> 00:14:31.955 Apply your craft for the emancipation of others, 00:14:31.955 --> 00:14:34.578 whether you're a doctor, whether you're an engineer 00:14:34.578 --> 00:14:36.153 a designer or an architect, 00:14:36.153 --> 00:14:39.886 especially if you're a political leader. 00:14:40.766 --> 00:14:42.906 Each day in our lives, 00:14:42.906 --> 00:14:46.633 when we have moments of uncertainty, 00:14:46.633 --> 00:14:49.095 or if we're looking for inspiration, 00:14:49.095 --> 00:14:51.043 we should think to ourselves: 00:14:51.043 --> 00:14:52.745 "What would Madiba do?" 00:14:52.745 --> 00:14:54.031 Thank you. 00:14:54.031 --> 00:14:57.430 (Applause)